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Tomorrow Daily - Khail and Ashley's best (and worst) of E3 2015, ep. 194

2015-06-17
greetings citizens of the internet welcome to tomorrow daily the best geek talk show in the known universe I'm Ashley sceva joining me as always is fallout shelter player kale anonymous of the going all out shelter you you actually I think live in that game now we've lost kale guys not we don't even need fallout 4 anymore we have fallout shelter now we just kales long proud overseer but we've got a lot more games talk about them ones that have been wasting my time and my money i've already spent twenty dollars so wow so we got but we got a lot of to talk about for you three so yeah so let's it's not headlines let's just hit our best and worst of III today okay so we have three categories that we picked one of those categories we picked gameplay conference Oh trailer huh alright so what was your best so we're going so for this we're going best in the worst I mean it's like as much as we like to be positive on this show we're going worst because I really want to I really want to crap on some some some gamers here is that there's some missteps and it's and it's delightful so what do you want to start with let's go with gameplay okay that's to wear so we're gonna start with gameplay best gameplay that we showed off star wars battlefront excited because the star with the little star wars kid inside of me was like crying tears to it there's a lot of crying that happened at this III for a lot of people and for me it was star wars battlefront just hearing the laser the second the laser is I started hearing the giftie and then I started here on our right down I'm just like I need to live in this world I wanted I want to get shot and and cut in half by a lightsaber so I'm ready to go I I think a lot of people were worried about this but I'm just saying that trailer it's minds blown so what about you gameplay best best gameplay you know best gameplay for me I love indie games we've discussed this and I had to go check out cop head and I got to play it I got to play the two-player co-op mode and it is so much fun the controls are there's a slight kind of Greece eNOS to the controls that not really controls agreed on but generally speaking as a as a sort of little shooter it is a adorable be really impressive apparently over sixty percent of the team is artists like they're creating content art and paintings for the backdrops and everything because it looks like a 1930s cartoon a living 1930s cartoon it's amazing how accurate to the time period they got it and also the gameplay is really fun you're like a little cup and you have like special abilities you have these a little shooter it's adorable and and actually really really fun so kudos to those guys they don't have a release date yet but they said hopefully sometime next year there is cuphead gonna be your best of every single category because it's the only game listen hot follow for is gonna probably be the best of in all your category so it's against the best I am the worst i like to spread it out okay so worse first gameplay worst oh we're doing worse gameplay do it worst gameplay oh wait I thought we meant the super awesome best because i'm going with NBA live 16 because we met group god hoop god was in the house finally he's making his appearance at e3 after we've been asking for it for years and he got on stage and really just stole the show of all three he's they're gonna put him in Fallout I hear it's gonna be great who God you know if anyone's gonna cheer show you it's amazing I can't wait he's going to be an every a game from now on I'm super excited NBA Live 16 dad who got dreams alive so that that was my worst gameplay okay I'm gonna stir up some controversy right now let's do it I'm sorry buddy do it worst gameplay for me is the Last Guardian is the Last Guardian and I'm gonna tell you why because this game has been in development for so long that it it still looks like a PlayStation 3 game and I'm bummed that I'm bummed that it took so long to get there and now i'm watching it and I'm just like I don't feel the same as I did in 2009 when they first announced it it has been six years since they first announced that game yeah you've been burned by the how long it's taken just as I've been burned by uh split the division yes what man the divide just can't just perfectly look amazing don't even tell us when it's coming up yeah I get I get what you're saying okay so where's gameplay you waited too long they waited too long it's more of a visual thing like I'm sure enough I'm sure the game's gonna be beautiful and make us all cry in that little bird dot weird bird dog Falkor thing is gonna be you know awesome but the thing is is it took too long it looks last gen and that bums me out because this game should be just the most beautiful thing you've ever seen on PlayStation 4 but straight up if hoop God was in it it would be better writer a hundred percent better in fact i Coupe God and that the little Falkor bird dog thing became best friends I think oh my you know I yeah TLC I so we'll see I feel like we could actually review games by asking if it could be better if the main protagonist was hoop got like we should just start doing now that should be a rating system he's in super smash brothers by the way I've gotta go is it getting it yet he's it's all smash moves all the time for him so it's breathing okay that's Trey best conference Rudy whatever you want to do know let's let's work our way to conference alright best trailer that's so best trailer for me and this one was a surprise and I think that's why it really affected me was ghost recon wilderness because i am a I am an open-world junkie you are I am also a co-op junkie and I'm also a guy busting coke dealers junkie oh they're like all / yes yeah I did it right before the show um but but ya know it's it's it it looks really impressive very big and expansive and I think a lot of us saw this and we were thinking of all the possibilities it just looks it just looks huge and and this is going to be the one of the games that's gonna be fun to watch people play on Twitch and or twitch stream yourself which i think is important when you're thinking about playing a game you know because it's it's part of the experience now to kind of put out that shareable that turbo experience okay so yeah for me ghost Ghost Recon wildlands really got me excited for it i called it wild ones wild limits wild lands but yeah so there you go looking forward to seeing more from that again i think they only showed the true trailer it's not even on the floor so that's why i also picked a trailer that is not on the show floor okay it's Final Fantasy 7 remake uh I don't know I expected that guy's another another thing that made people cry including my seller crying game here he may have just finished crying right off stage right for the child car they announce thyself a sony press conference and this is the thing that everyone's been clamoring for they totally sony trolled us last December when they announced that we were getting this like weird pc port of the game and everybody thought it was the remake it was like this is it this is it it's finally gonna happen and then really it's a pc port of the exact same game and everybody got mad everybody was mad including me okay alright so now finally just give us what we want sony like give us what we want and they did they Miley delivered and that trailer looked amazing I i love the reaction cuz they actually in the press conference cut to the audience yes and there were people just screaming grabbing other people that you're shaking them it was unbelievable and to be in that room when it got announced was really special for me I mean that was the game that got me into rpgs like I think for a lot of us like that was the game that got us into rpgs and so um I mean I'm just so excited it's going to be at least a couple years out i'm assuming 20-year anniversary released so probably 2017 but i'm so pumped for Final Fantasy 7 remake it's going to be beautiful does anything it looks anything even close to advent children like in game I I don't even know what I'm gonna do it myself like I'm so excited that should be very interesting to see if they stick with the very very old turn based system that they had knock down or if they go for like a final yaparim you know man yeah I don't know they may ruin it completely ruin everything and then like Eris survives and she becomes you know I heard a rumor she sits on the game of thrones she's the queen of dragons or whatever and they don't even know what they're doing anymore and they put who duck and hoop got in there hoop God is gonna actually replace cloud strife and this remake because they have to make it better and so that's that's what it is alright best press conference oh we're not gonna do worst we're trailer oh we didn't we didn't talk about our worst here okay so worst trailer hold on worst trailer worst rail about me to go first I know okay okay so worst trailer Star Wars The Old Republic Knights of the Fallen Empire the longest title no look mouthful look those trailers are super cool but that is not how the game plays out now it's a great trailer not it doesn't so you know that's fun it's it's I'm glad you got to make that cool trailer but it really doesn't like payout for the game and it's I don't know I'm not around I'm not excited love the trailer though great job really cool didn't work sorry not from that for you not doing it was it was a fun little trailer but in brief my worst was something I did not see which a lot of people actually I think agree with me uh it was a trailer that wasn't here which is a metroid for wii u where's my wii u metroid you're gonna already gonna start the nintendo hate where's my wii u metroid all right listen I'm not shaking with rage I'm not crying alright I'm not giving up on nintendo there are a lot of things I saw that I liked but we're sure a weirdo fan girl so where my samus at that's what I'm asking where are Sam is that and not a 3ds sports ball game I don't that's not what I'm talking about I want a wii u game beautiful that's what I want fair enough so there you go alright press conferences let's do this best press conference Bethesda AKA church cuz you went there and you thank God praise todd howard and it was everything never religious experience and so many people were saved it was great OH was it was it was more like a story they like wove it like a story there was there was all highs and lows and and it was it was fantastic from the gameplay to the trailers to the surprises you know we we got doom which blew everyone away and the fact that they stayed in their true to form just straight-up violence and did everything crazy and then uh dishonored which was supposed to be a surprise but ended up being leaked leaked early what dishonored to a pretty cool trailer you know was it wasn't my favorite but and then of course fallout 4 dog needs not gonna die you get to make your own house you get a pip-boy in real life that you can use with your phone oh really you're you can be that guy walking around like you're gonna be at the mall doing it oh I'm not that guy this guy then you can download fallout shelter only if you have an iPhone sorry Android users give it a couple months yeah we'll see I'll already be the overseer in the world yeah we're gonna but anyway so bethesda and todd howard is is so good on stage he is really good so good he makes el all those other guys look like chumps so taking a page on the stevie job it was great plan i mean like it maybe not you they had some amazing announcements it was just all overall just a great pretty solid so what about yours nintendo right no yeah no definitely magento i picked microsoft oh and here's why so I thought Microsoft had a few things that really kind of set them apart from everybody else uh they had really cool future tech so they'd haul lens with minecraft all the good yeah but they have the elite controller so they're doing things with their controllers to make people uh to give people customization option on how they want to play which i think is amazing backwards Pat ability was a huge surprise people people went ballistic inside that inside the Galen Center they went insane and the guy next to me was like no no like he was losing his mind it was the greatest and then and then lastly I thought they had a really good balance of Triple A games and also in D they have that really great indie montage and they focused on some of the indie games and and talked a little bit about what they were and and they also focused on games that were coming out soon like it was all kind of games that are coming out the next 12 months not this is coming out in a few years and we don't know when promises promises okay yeah but it did promises promises Sony had a lot of that where was like 20 16 2016 2017 like we don't know like it was there was a lot of that and I loved all those games and it was very nostalgic for me at Sony but Microsoft really just was like these are the games they're coming you're gonna play them and in you got 360 backwards compatibility if you've been thinking about upgrading I mean they really did a great job as a company of convincing people to upgrade their 360 to Xbox one's yeah so that was I thought that was amazing great go support of their console all the way around Dean soopers including future of hollow lens which will all be wearing next year and you'll be watching this on hollow lens yeah God gotta help us all right all right so talk about worst worst press conference I love me some cringe so when I say worst press conference I actually kind of enjoyed it and so mine was EA oh yeah because I don't even know but we had a little guy named hoop God who is at the e a press conference running theme of we also had this dancing cartoon zombie that came out and tried to rile up like nobody let that didn't work or anybody um and then the sports thing that they just beat into your head like it's sad because the whole audience they're like they're like all right we got another NFL game coming out yeah sure Pele is amazing yeah I love myself Pele it's like a 25 minutes it like it was really long it's really long Pele I know you watched this show so I'm sorry but it was like it was kind of a showstopper man yeah but come on the show and we'll we'll fix it whatever but not she's just call me whatever and and also I think it and the yarn thing i like them super cute we're really made the EA has come as a whole year's e3 brought to you by your game yarn guys yarn uh so ya know it was just crazy wacky all over the place you know it was the worst in general I mean after the Bethesda one which was so well located yeah but uh ya know I love the cringe I it was my favorite because it was the worst so so there you go what about worse press conference for you you're gonna be shocked Bethesda Nintendo oh no again like it wasn't it wasn't because I didn't like what I saw it's because I was hoping to see other things that I didn't see so I really wanted to see The Legend of Zelda trailer like more of The Legend of Zelda for Wii U I wanted to see gameplay like I want to see that stuff and I wanted to see um you know more first part like maybe a new kirby game like there was there was a sort of feeling of anticipation that nintendo was gonna surprise us with something and then there was not really any surprise in that press conference except for except for the puppets like Reggie Miyamoto any water turning into pot they were puppets and then they turned into Star Fox puppets so starfox looks really cool but it dig did also i'm sorry i missed I kind of missed that press conference and I'm kind of glad i did not an elephant's it was amazing so it was good it was funny ok cool it was entertaining and like I love Nintendo for those press conferences in those weird moments where you're just like this is charming and I don't know what I'm seeing but I love it yeah and so there was a lot of that and that was cool but I also know as a theme with mushrooms so I can kind understand why they go weird directly I ankle it was definitely like one of those feelings where it was like I I was expecting more I didn't get it and then on top of that everything that we've seen everything that we saw in their press conference was stuff we've seen like we've already seen it there's nothing new and um and so that was a bummer I mean we saw Star Fox a little like tiny bit last year but that was it um some but we still saw it we knew it was coming so it wasn't any surprises yeah the booth sucks too i'm just gonna go ahead and say that oh you shouldn't hate that movie yeah you bite your tongue it's a great i like the booth a lot the Star Fox thing is really cool again no fear girl those are our best and worst we are gonna come right back with a surprise guest a surprise guest who is it is it Pele it is unfortunately not pale a better than Pele is it that zombie uh no okay the old extra cost you about it in the costume so and she's gonna give us her opinions of III we will be right back after this break don't miss the rest of tomorrow daily sponsored today by hoop God Oh is he welcome back to the show we've returned and oh my gosh there's another person here it's a miracle it's gamespot producer just mcdonald coming to us all the way from Sydney Australia yeah I totally am just for this show actually we appreciated you I was really excited yeah did you pay for that I did great on a bracket you guys who God's generous sponsorship thank God uh Roger III so far uh you know it's been good it's kind of been a good year I mean I'm expecting it to be a bit disappointing but there's been plenty of like awesome new IP and like sweet stuff coming out they were like they're not gonna do it and then they did and it was a thing and it's exciting it's a very exciting year to be here and actually be able to be at the at the blunt of all of this so let's get into the list yeah we're gonna you're gonna be the same ones that we did so we're starting out with best gameplay what's the best gameplay best gameplay you know I think I actually have to say my favorite game play was hololens oh yeah yeah minecraft on Holly lens it was just so fascinatingly different I mean we talked about like VR and the Holy technology is like being like so full of potential but to actually say the way they demoed it and the way that it could be used to kind of access game worlds in a hallway that we've never really thought of as being possible it's like really exciting yeah it was it really turned you into a child you like ooh I want to mess around with that like minecraft looked exciting like super exciting again like look into the world look into your houses I mean I mean they did a really good job choosing minecraft it anyway because it's a really good example if you build these huge world and then to be get to get to explore the scope of those worlds via you know just interacting with it through this technology is just so cool so you Gary huge minecraft player I'm actually not but I'm minecraft is one of those things I'm fascinated by yeah I do think it's so cool so yeah I mean I almost went for Tomb Raider just because I'm so excited formal tomb raider and it's so I the climbing and the ice and the and the more Laura expected her to get hurt in that trailer defying but um but but hololens has to take the case okay so what about worse worst game what about worst mr. for me the worst gameplay it was probably uh gears of 40 interesting it wasn't dark enough for you was it was super block gameplay trailer when nothing happened mm-hmm like like if they were gonna bring gears back when they were gonna do this and it was gonna be a whole thing it should have been more of an event and it pretty much rounded out that show it rounded out the conference with just kind of aimless wandering and back and forth and it was very very dark yeah really dark and you sort of saw a monster at the end and it's like cool monster alright but it was just kind of banter and nothingness then it was like really thats kids that's where you're going with gears down yeah it's ready with the audience they're like they're like show the chainsaw Jake's awesome dude yeah I record in the audience deeply I do like the the team-based let's take on the baddies kind of thing yeah like meandering hopefully they actually have more to the game than just wandering around so i think the exploration that it's to le yeah that game isn't coming out till light light next year and it's probably just not the right time to be bringing out a trailer for it right Oh gameplay trailer for sure but yeah that's what I think okay alright so now we're gonna move on to trailer okay so best trailer okay I'm scared to say my best trailer cuz I just heard you paint this is a safe space it's not cuz he just paid it out I really loved unravel oh wait I just give crap job no i didn't i did not talk crap on unravel i think thats all i said was that it was really weird in that Hulk press coverage you know was weird when it ended and then it was like Need for Speed brave I was just like what just happened but unravels like gave me the same feels is like re in the blend for us last year where I actually cried in this very room very embarrassing just quietly to myself because was very much a good professional does yeah I know y'all cry alone and unravel was just like ahh the fields and just like to see the game track to come out and be so passionate and so genuine about like his aunt and his creation what he was doing I mean the guy was shaking like he was just so obviously not there to be a presenter not there because of his like obvious like stage presence right just because he adored what he was doing and just really wanted to build a connection between players and this game that he was that he was making for them I'm sure it's super fulfilling fulfilling for someone like that to go out there and show this game off and get such such an amazing response yeah I know we were kind of like wow that was really weird it's like Etsy this is the ANSI convention this year with lots of the world it was the most honest thing during that press conference by far it was like I make game with yarn and then and then everything else was mega awesome like I was cute really out of the blue um I thought it was interesting we didn't get more trailers like that this year there was it was really the only trailer of that sort of ilk that was like oh and it was kind of like oh like touching and stuff like that there were a lot of Awesome trailers like yeah that was yeah yeah that one's good okay so let's go from your best trailer to the worst trailer that you've seen the one that you were just not excited that would have to be the Triforce here is oh and you know why it's not because there's anything wrong with it I loved link between worlds it was my face cream from from that year but it's not the silicate you might want to see right now I said hi economy I was yellow and two friends yeah I just don't just want to always just show me through it I barely have two friends online like how am I gonna find them in person with with 3d esas but exactly or it's like you know give me a taste of a new 3d experience yes I know it's a Nintendo and they won't give it to me for another three years right but still I think I would have preferred that so it was just a bit of a disappointment in that it was just not really the zelda game that i wanted that's not the zelda we're looking back that's not the one try again alright so now it's what conference okay so best conference okay my favorite conference far in a way it was so nice because it was such a crowd pleaser I feel like a lot of publishers come out and say way I like doing everything for the game is always thinking about it's what the players want la blah blah and it's easy to talk a big talk and then not really deliver I felt like sony's conference really proved that they could actually listen to fans and like bring stuff out give us the last guardian you know yes okay they're not technically funding Shenmue but like it give some stage presence to shin area which is now completely taken off and funded on kickstarter already Final Fantasy remake stuff like that it was just and yes like I I heard what you were saying Ilya that it's using you in the future so much time we're going to wait like Shenmue is gonna be like it's like Oh PlayStation five give up on not yes sorry but I mean and the IP like guerrilla games horizon looks unbelievable it was great and certainties constant commitment to indie gaming is just like they they never fail on that year after year they always like put you know devolver everybody else in the spotlight they give them that time on stage and show that it's not all about triple-a and I really appreciate that about Sony yeah that's yeah that's one of my favorite things about them to that they're always willing to bring out like a nobody developer and really just elevate them to the level of all their triple-a titles totally um which is awesome and they're so friendly towards developers and X is learning yeah they're getting better they're getting about it but it's Sony really kind of took that gauntlet and just ran with it i mean like while we're talking about putting the consumers first xbox does deserve a lot of credit yeah I don't think backward compatibility of course compatibility out because I don't think anybody saw that coming I mean we all when the consoles pronounced and it was like no ps4 xbox one Novak was compatibility right and it was like well that sucks but I guess that's just the bowl game and this happens they have like you know made actual alterations to the way yeah putting out there so that you know long into the device in a YA games supposedly down to the Xbox one is just a really cool consumer first measure alright so we hate to end everything on a donor with your question we go the worst car alright well just um for me it was EA and it's because they had real high highs and low lows um I think if you were really into sports games then EA would have been fine I'm not so this was game section which felt like it went for about four hours probably about half an hour was a bit of a drag yeah it slowed down another show I was like they actually had a lot of great games to show off they started with mass effect it was awesome to get another glimpse of that and a couple of details limps is right though it was only a glass and nothing my point being like Mirror's Edge and stuff like that they had really cool things to show but the bulk of that conference went to plants vs zombies and there oh thank you many many acronyms 16 sports game yeah yeah so many um so I would have liked to see that the weight swapped around a little obviously they just have more to show for the annualized franchises than they do for the games that we're really looking forward to right but um yeah all in all you know it's better good show it's been a really really good show there's definitely been something for everyone that there's no surprises for everyone things that people are gonna be excited about this year things they didn't know they're gonna be excited about absolutely tech on every front yeah on your current tag yes I beulas handheld hollow lensing everything I mean there's so much stuff and and I mean I it's just been a really everybody this year is like I don't feel like there's any real losers like I feel like even the bigger except Nintendo you stop but it just it doesn't feel like that like every year kind of like I remember when the xbox one was announced it was like oh like like oh man like their make is and then they backpedal then it was like this big thing and it was just like oh they really lost this one to Tony and it doesn't feel like that this year it feels like everybody just had really good style show thing yeah I had something to get excited yet yeah that's always a good year um well thank you for telling us every on yeah fun we like to have a good time here and where can people find you today you can stay in the states if you want write your letter yeah just I just stay here yeah it's cool we don't have giant spiders so it's like told I would be emotions yeah okay we'll get your Huntsman of your that's fine I your pet Huntsman with leash oh that's good i'm at just mcdonald on Twitter just mcdonald on twitter your your where can we find you on I'm Matt Cail anonymous and or at hookah and i am at ashleys together also last thing before we go we did this really really cool oh yeah actual tour of the show floor and you can see it whether you are using your just your phone you can use it as a kind of a virtual reality look around if you have cardboard google cardboard or the samsung gear vr you can use that as well to watch this experience and kale and i take you around III it's a little two minute experience in virtual reality and we're really excited about it you can go over to cnet com to check that out you can always find coverage of e3 over on gamespot com as well as seen at cons games hub but until next time guys we will be will be back tomorrow with a whole new brand new docket of e3 news not weird wonderful science facts and science fiction but until then begin humans will see you guys next time alright let's burn this place down do it you
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