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on today's show Stanford University is teaching robots to play games a whole bunch of scientists and prominent technology people have signed a petition to ban killer robots finally you can play half-life 2 on your watch tomorrow daily greetings citizens of the internet welcome to tomorrow daily the best geek talk show in the known universe I'm ashley's together that's kale anonymous I don't punch here in a long time you haven't and you know just its likeness stall I'm getting hit with maybe a little nostalgia yeah yeah yeahs been that long you know what I would before we get started I know like we never dress us and it just look you're watching a talk show we're gonna tell you about some great great articles that's true we're also going to wax about it a little bit to kind of get further into the conversation very true as is what's great about this sort of community that we're in and the sort of internet culture that we're a part of so we get to talk about together we get to come up 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been all over the internet this week love this this is ok guys this gonna be hot again hit more caveats today this is gonna be a hot button topic so please try to be respectful of each other although it's a very controversial thing so ok I don't think its controversial but there has been an open letter that has been published by a group called the future of life Institute that has been calling for a ban on autonomous weapons okay so we're a familiar terminator Wow autonomous weapons okay machine prominent scientific and technology minds of our time have signed this position petition we're talking about Elon Musk's keeping Hawking Steve Wozniak these are people who are extremely well-versed in technology they are you know they're in it every day they understand the ramifications of what autonomous weaponry would mean now they define in this petition autonomous weapons as ones that quote select and engage targets without human intervention so you send this robot off and we've seen this with very controversial drone programs where you send these drones off to autonomously bomb a location without understanding or knowing what targets they're hitting so you see a lot of inadvertent civilian casualties with drones which is awful really bad not good but there is also so there's something to be said there for not allowing robots to choose who's being killed there has to be some sort of human element there like there has to be some sort of human element there we can't give that control to robotics and AI that's the argument all right okay so um for me i mean i dont the the the fear here is that at some point we're gonna get into a global AI arms race where it's going to be you know every country sort of like the nuclear arms race but with autonomous robotics which seems like autonomous robot race seems like a really bad idea right because then if you're racing a lot of times you don't stop to really think about what you're doing and so you just go and you want to be first and forget all the consequences and you like there it's not properly thought out the steps are not taken and a measured and safe fashion and so that's why this petition has been signed I know that this sort of strikes you particularly right now because you just got done watch catching up with humans humans yeah and so and this is a big kind of discussion that's being had on the internet with a lot of our just a lot of our media that were that we're watching and seeing like you said humans mr. robot deals with robots we're I mean obviously a Roomba is going to come get you but the argument is is that we're already working on autonomy and so many different things in technology like let's take a stand now like nip it in the bud basically or it gets out of control and say no autonomous weapons like we cannot have this we get including the drone programs like we got to just stop all this but you didn't say the names of the people that were attached I did I did I Stephen Stephen Hawking Steve Wozniak I mean Elon Musk these are all people and I'm sure like at some point if he's so inclined Bill Gates has also expressed a concern about AI getting out of control I mean we've seen many many different scientists and you know technology CEOs and experts I mean all kinds of people roboticists getting into in the scientific community getting into petitions like this and making quotes about things like this thing like we cannot let a I get out of control so it's really interesting that we're kind of living in the time where we feel that it is so imminent even though it might not be that we have to have these really serious discussions of these you know these kinds of petitions about it I think the people that are worried about it are worried about kind of the snowball effect of you know it's it's only going to go from one little thing and that's gonna kind of grow so if you know they make one mistake and then oh let's take for example you said they're gonna you know have an AI race so we're just seeing those as numbers right just a matter of if X country versus X country well we have 50 a is that were like robots are bad right you like our we're gonna throw 50 more you know what we gotta update we'll do 20 more and then we'll do 30 million more and then just a Baroness are now ours can do this thing and now this one can detect you know like specific types of people like you know there's a lot of fear about hard AI we don't have hard AI up we do have a lot of soft day I I mean we have a lot of it and so I mean you're the soft day I lives in our phones you know like this stuff is we want to have self-driving cars I mean this is all soft day I so the idea of hard AI coming along and really kind of making those decisions for us is probably not a great idea and so I I don't disagree with the petition you know I know that there are some things I was just listening to this conversation is gonna go along wit I was just listening to Sawbones which is really great podcast they were talking about burns and Sydney McElroy who's a doctor she mentioned she's like you know war is a terrible thing but for burns specifically like we made a lot of advancements in world war one and World War two because people were getting burned by things we had never really seen before and and so while war is a thing that kind of galvanizes some forms of innovation like I would rather not have I'd rather it take longer and just not go through that process because there's people's lives involved and that's terrible so that's I mean that's what I say this is that our hashtag of the day well I figured we would turn it around we'd turn the frown upside down because that's obviously a really serious topic and we are using that thing these guys are no it's it's very us here it's an interesting topic these people are these three I mean these big people like Wozniak and and then on my musk and like there it's just for conversation I mean where they're obviously not an important up in arms against anything that specifically that's happening but it's just to kind of protect it and these guys have their eye on that sort of world so yeah again a chance to get people's brains out there hopefully this doesn't get too crazy it's really gonna be too crazy until we hit hard AI which at which case I think we're gonna have some very serious problems but will happen let's see let's do a sh tag TD new AI and instead of thinking of a bad type of autonomous robot let's come up with good kinds of autonomous robots I got one a host robot that will do a much better job than us than me yeah I like that that's really good we'll get him a walking dead shirt that fits perfectly look just like mr. robot and and they won't mess up any information no no they'll be completely not new and be affected by any of the comments and they don't need a paycheck know so well a thing maybe someday maybe we do it how to pay them pay the robot robots maybe pay them in some sort of robot currency I would make a robot that detects your chemical imbalances in your brain and decides what kind of compliment you need at that exact moment oh no that's bad why because we've come self reliance on that no I don't think so I mean I think maybe they're just randomly sprinkled throughout the world you just like randomly run into this robot I was like you're like whatever you needed at that moment maybe you're feeling down about something it was just like don't worry your hair looks you thought you got a bad haircut in it so you just randomly like your haircut looks so in my scenario I'm at a stoplight I'm just bummed the cart rest up picks them in Vegas hey you're pretty smart you're they're pretty great Khal anonymous and then it just drives away under the end of the sunset I like it so yeah TD new AI that's the that's the hashtag uh so what is this about playing off life on a SmartWatch okay uh so weird so basically this guy has found a way to play half life 2 on your android watch something not many people have been asking for but I do kind of want so this guy basically you're like us youtube or dave bennett made it found a way to put and the half-life 2 on your SmartWatch I mean that's really that's really the story here the downsides are the other part of the story which are that look it looks a little shoddy you know I mean half-life 2 is an old game but that doesn't mean an Android watch can run it and its full potential as you can see it runs pretty smoothly yeah it goes it ranges from 60 frames a second which is the normal expectation to two frames a second maybe if there's too much action going on yeah two frames a second that's not good not so great um he's also apparently I he's 0 for android phones as well okay it's not like a copy this was just him to show off he's loaded up team fortress classic and portal on phones portal on phone sounds fun but also very difficult um so as you can see he's it's not like he's gonna beat the game on here which I'd still like to see I mean that would be kind of amazing if he beat the whole game Super Bowl play through on this kate twitch stream oh right from your android wear never watch that oh look at it it's terrible it would just be guided by third as it crashed yeah it crash the crashes all the time so there you go up yep it crashes a lot so I'm assuming it's some kind of like emulator right it's like whatever the engine is it emulates it just moderate it out that's pretty interesting you go how about you that's that's no confirmation of any half life at all it's just on a watch welding so going from humans playing games on robots if you call a smart boy watch a robot at two robots playing games with humans Stanford University have this vid so they released it last week and I've been saving it and I finally was like okay today's the day they have an artificial intelligence lab which looks really fun by the way it looks like a fun place to study and create robots they have been teaching robotic arms to do things like play ping-pong like you're seeing right now play cup and ball catch stuff and have all these great sort of detection skills that this one right here is one that true follower quad or a helicopter and like basically catches them on a landing pad which is pretty neat and so they said in the video it's pretty great they're like they're not really good at it like you watch the ping pong one and it's like you know they're just like they miss a lot and they try really hard like ouch so that's pretty good but then like sometimes he's just like blah yeah just like I never mind I messed up so um so it's pretty cool that they're doing this and this lab seems like a really fun place to hang out they're pretty good at catching stuff they do the Japanese cup and ball game and they said that this all of this work so watch he's going to do the cup of all boom I can't even do that I can barely do that they said it's a foundation for more complex tasks that robotic arms would be able to complete which is pretty exciting I mean just it generally for robotics and then also I would imagine really exciting for the students who are like studying this in developing these robots which is pretty cool wow that does look like a fun place to go it looks pretty fun I like when you watch the video they're all everyone seems like they're having a great time like and they're fascinated by what's happening they're really engaged but they're also having a really good time like no one seems like I'm miserable like nobody seems miserable at the Stanford University artificial intelligence lab that's which is pretty amazing cool alright guys we're gonna take a quick break we're gonna come right back it's it's Tuesday so we're gonna we're gonna talk about some new stuff that's gonna be our wallets so don't click away it's tomorrow daily welcome back to the show we've returned it's a tuesday which means it's time to tell you about the things we're gonna go broke for time for new releases Genghis may have been drinking place artificial biggest needs to get it together he needs to get it together all right first release I have been hearing great things about mission impossibles out this week rogue rogue nation rogue nation this is the movie where Tom Cruise well he done he's known for doing a lot of his own stunts right yeah like he's really into this like but there was a future at where they're like hey he's actually it really honest to god attached to a plane and we took off and landed like a time yeah with him attached to this plane which is crazy and like simon Pegg's in it and Jeremy Renner yeah the areas he's that's he's actually attached to that plane I mean he's tethered and they just you know CG doubt the cabling but those are really his legs flailing in the back as the plane actually in real life takes off from the ground we really they did it seven times they do it seven times no thank you that is crazy that's pretty awesome though and he's also climb he climb the building and Dubai yeah did I think belief oh right yeah yeah but please that was scary I would not like any of that he also apparently in this movies like underwater shot a scene under water continuously for six minutes which is that's like Houdini levels of breath holding yeah that's intense so if anything go see that movie just because of Tom Cruise's commitment isn't the perfect summer moves to the craft of acting really great summer move he went straight method on that one was like I am a spy uh and then also coming out today I don't know some of you may not be familiar with this series but King's Quest the night to remember they're rebooting King's Quest and apparently again also getting really good reviews this is a an episodic game where it kind of rise with telltale where they're gonna do like different episodes of king grams history and how he came to be king and it's going to go over five episodes the first one drops today go check it out its out for I think both xboxes both Playstations so ps3 ps4 xbox one xbox 360 and then also pc so you can get it on just about any platform no wii u sorry guys no iOS no android not yet maybe really sit on iOS and gameboy advance sorry about that well the developers the odd gentlemen and they're here in LA and a lot of times they do stuff for iOS and Android so we might see it come to mobile maybe if Ciera is interested in if there's enough interest they you know from the fans to make ready getting crazy reviews I didn't play the original I did I loved it I played I specifically remember a lot of playing kings quest to and it was really really hard because it was like Space Quest is like the controls are you know the arrow keys and you have to like there's there's no there's no tips no hints there's nothing it's just just you're walking around a giant map and sometimes you'll walk into a screen and all of a sudden it be a monster there he was gonna eat like if you don't have the right item yours dead like that's it it's over and you got to go back to your last load point which is usually like 10 minutes prior which is terrible yeah those old games had a real big bite yeah yeah so um so yeah new king's quest which is pretty cool and then lastly uh something a little bit different than movies and games but a very important released windows 10 comes out this week whoo be careful yeah maybe wait to download it we'll see well it's better some guy that was like I'm on working on a really big project right now I was like go download it yet oh no no you don't want to do anything until you're a percent sure to two great things about Windows 10 though is that it's been in beta for a long time and which means that a lot of the lot of the software manufacturers developers have been able to make their stuff compatible right away what is this commercial oh they're trying to their bids a globalizing sort of the idea of windows and and um different like you get a free baby no no they be that would be amazing you got a free baby I want an agent baby you taught they talk about how like all of these kids will never know the concept of these older computer concepts like it it's actually a pretty good commercial you mean like not having the Windows Start button like well now I can windows hey I know that's I'm saying lucky kid never known a life without with a start button and now they're gonna learn it so yeah that's Windows 10 comes out and it's free if you have I think it's windows 7 service pack 1 and newer you get a free upgrade um I had to today I like set up the thing to like download tomorrow so why not I tried out I don't know if my computer will handle it because it's old I have an old decrepit Methuselah computer that needs to be upgraded desperately but if I'm gonna I have so many games that i have like modded out and I'm if I hit that button well I'd imagine the state like Steam and Oh battlenet they're all ready to go for that upgrade girl girl hey girl you don't know about Fallout mods and how sensitive those little things like okay you're right I'm not gonna play that game farrah not till I beat it again alright fair enough okay well let's uh let's let's move on from the delightfulness of new releases to the delightfulness of your comments it's time for user feedback what's the deal I never I never really registered that user feedback has a thumbs down on it yeah like it's like up or down up or down but some people are like I don't want to move to Mars I don't want to go to 450 to be what about that guy yes I had said the show's okay like what did you say it's pretty much back to us he said it he said thanks yeah you guys are you guys are pretty good on Twitter I don't know if you saw that he max rode over to us on Twitter and was like you guys are you guys are pretty pretty good thanks for saying and I wrote back and I'm like we think you're pretty good too I don't think it can get he's pretty pretty okay pretty okay uh we asked you guys use the hashtag TD Claude tell us what you'd use that little tiny cloth from from Vanderbilt with a little ella the little wrist on it that what petty thing would use it for it you guys really came through on this so thank you for being as petty as us Kirk wrote and said I'd probably clean my laptop fan hopefully then my laptop will stop cooking my leg like there's all kinds of good visuals on that toasted leg syndrome you got to be careful about that Dustin wrote and said I would use it to finally learn how they get the caramel in the caramel bar like that it kind of does I think you need to watch that on how does it have how did this get made or it like has how it's made oh yeah that little show where they do like here's how they make chocolate like I like that I like him in a room with that little claw and a bunch of candy bars yeah I like that too I would use it to pinch the bottoms and figure out what the flavors were on an unmarked box of assorted chocolates that's a great use of that load clock dragon lover wrote in and said I would use the claw to pick up insects and put them outside that way no one would have to kill them it's a very delicate kind of thing to say dragon lover dragon lover said that also insect lover Ricky Rodin said take all the green M&MS out of the bottom of the M&M jar no the freshest mms are at the bottom of a jar take did you say take all the green apparently the green ones are the freshest because they remind your grass trees living after unless experiments on this all right fair enough thank you and then lastly Matthew wrote and said I would like to see a micro claw that would be the arch nemesis to micro inspector gadget and I have to add on to this because Matthew wrote that tweet and then spike tiger wrote I'll get you next time miniature gadget which made me laugh I than said I was hoping that somebody would write about dr. claw cuz that was my that was the lower third I picked fresh I was like dr. Clough oh okay and settled though dr. cloth way to pick up on my cues there Matthew high fives to you but yeah so that was your TD cloth feedback somebody else said like I would I would use it to like like tape pick up like take things out of my wife's meal like or like steal food from her without getting my hand slapped oh and then and then pin Rhoda and said like his kid is picky eating wise doesn't like a lot of stuff in their food so you can pick out all the stuff they don't like yeah like that sound like everybody really a good answer we're trying to take things out of their food I get it yeah take all the stuff out of your food alright guys temporal ESPYs use your feedback it's our photog refer of the day this is from our delightful viewer William he took this with his asus padfone x a sous IC asus uh and how do you pronounce it you work at cnet how do you pronounce it i have always heard it pronounced uh internationally I've heard asus and then here it's asa a lot of people to asus and whatever was the CEO said sorry but with it's a great question I knew I haven't been in person to a so here's your SS pad a fan packs from William and it's as beautiful what I mean I guess like a rice field or something says shot in arlington Tennessee one evening while heading to pick up dinner there's not much hype about my phone but I love it and in my opinion the cameras impeccable love the show and also did kale say I'll be back when he left for san diego comic-con I think I think he I think maybe did a nice job William I think maybe kale has not quite turned in his resignation as a terminator fan justic no no I I can't crab can't ever can ever say any of those awesome phrases ever again if you're gonna turn in your resignation as a terminator fan you gotta stop all right no more robots for me no we're robots alright guys if you want to send it your phone tog raphy you can email it over to tomorrow at cnet com tell us what phone you shot it with tell us a little story about it and give us permission use it on the show how big light fool yeah don't forget to give us permission I give us permission tell us you then but don't give us permission yeah I know there might be an autoresponder set up at some point to ask you to like say I agree to like some terms or whatever but anyway uh send us your photos send us your story ideas and of course you can always find us on social media where tomorrow daily on a few of the bigger social media networks but really if you want to talk to us hit us up on Twitter the two of us individually I'm at Ashley skele i'm at kill anonymous and that's it for the show today guys will be back tomorrow brand new duck and science fact science fiction blowing up in your face but until then newman's you see you guys next time