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second up to the morning after after show I'm Patrick I'm Lynne and I'm Caitlin and we're about to see that editors who are also big fans of the show West world and today we're gonna talk about season two it's the final episode and if you don't like spoilers you should stop watching right now although it's kind of too late because it's like the very last episode so yeah why would you yeah welcome I guess uh okay so you saw the finale what was the first question you had first thought you had I thought that it was actually a big finale that it answered a lot of questions and it wasn't like too open-ended that it was like let's just leave you guys on a huge huge cliffhangers I think it was it was very neatly answered answer a lot of questions neatly but also off room for a lot of narratives like where is it's gonna go that seems really different from what the majority the internet oh no it was so open-ended that it was really hard to conceptualize that it was like too topsy-turvy timey wimey and that I just like fold it into itself too much oh yeah my thing was like oh yay Tessa Thompson more Tessa toe and my second reaction was turn it off I'm done I want out of this West world relationship for a few months because it's just too high-maintenance for my needs right now but that was it was just so intense and there's a lot going on I just didn't want to look at anything I just needed like non screen non-west role time maybe a little Tessa Thompson time but she gave us enough so I did the opposite absolutely obviously my first question was oh my god what's Bernards timeline and I immediately put pen to paper and started writing it all out yeah I mean you already mapped out of the window I had already mapped out a lot of it and so it was about plugging in where Elsie gets killed or where we turn into Hale auras or you know just those pivotal moments where he runs into Dolores and made in black alright yeah there's no things like that I mean it's a little confusing definitely and a little sad once you realize that now see he's been dead since the flood Vega our opening scene she was already dead yeah and somebody that was weird too because the couple episodes ago when it was all about okay I thought that was one of the most emotional and most liked relatable episodes in a way and yet here I felt there was a lot of like a lot of cool things a lot of beautiful action amazing sequences but I didn't feel like a lot of like emotion connection except and there's a couple moments one was when Elsie died and it was both shocking but also like this like the one character who's actually kind of good yeah you just you guys literally just killed her now granite in this world we don't know if that will hold her that could be flash-forwards and flashbacks and who knows that there's like a host elsie and then the other one was when aki got into Eden and his love was there I was like yeah something good yeah and maybe yeah a little victory like here when Teddy was like yay sad teddy is sad today's work okay Teddy's like emo yeah seeing LC killed hurt for sure it sucked but then seeing Stubbs kind of gave hey Laura's a little like yeah that was pretty cool like he that was really not subtle I thought it was real I mean that he was like oh so now he's always which is cool he could have like like just looked in strange at Cammy's like boink I'm a host and it's like yay serves and I hope you guys like a bigger role next season for sure wait does that mean he's a host live for sure mean he's a host or Die just mean that he like was tapped into Ford's game I took it as him being a host I so it's the easiest explanation and it might be like wrong later on but I'm gonna for now just so I don't get into a mindfuck but does have human friends because I feel but does Ford have human friends because I feel like all his confidence her hosts so I would line up with that yeah that he could be a host and good for sister whore yeah that's a really good point yeah I liked it so much because I feel like Stubbs is one of those characters he'd like to see more of him and especially especially when it was that scene between him and Charlotte they both had so much behind it now you're like this let him loose let me do something yeah it's good it's it also though makes me question if he knows about Dolores inhale how long did he know because the things that he says to her are I was supposed to protect the host in the park I was in charge of them here I don't care what happens out there good luck and like okay bye yeah so I took it as he knew it was Dolores and I was like oh how long has he know when I guess mine would be like how does he know right well is how long a mesh network yeah he's on to me he's like oh you are your dealer so I took it as him knowing that still oyster he's like well I was sworn to protect hosts that were in the park I don't recall Ford building a Charlotte host so I'm going to assume that whatever I'm feeling with you like in the mesh network and you read like Dolores in my head so she does - oh my gosh if you go back and look at some of her scenes and acting it's just oh it lines up so well her little smile when Stubbs looks so much like Dolores yeah you're like yeah so let's let's get them back a little bit or forward I don't know we are but let's start with like maybe should break it down by character that might be easiest for all sketched up but let's start with Maeve and her gang and we finally saw what we saw on the trailer the breaking out of the labs that was Sol's running yeah with a little mechanical like holes opening yeah she's like you guys took too long so I'm gonna save myself exactly what she says where they been what was it like to see them like care like program first we finally got to see the skull grinders grind somebody we spend like T's for episodes like that's gotta be found that effects was actually really crazy that when they like hit the moment oh I was like oh my god that was great though and then we said we have the opening credits shot moment it's going off the second floor and that would have been cool stuff to be that stunt guy you're like you're gonna be knocked by a robot bull and then slide two stories bad I really liked it that Lee died not that I really know the weight the way he died or just no no I like his character and everything but he just so up with Maeve just like it seemed like nothing he could do wouldn't redeem himself I'm like he has to die for her he failed so many times that saving her and he threw her on the bus a bunch of times so I actually liked it that he did it by the way he died yeah finish your values it's my speech okay is anyone like its but it's the end especially like it's almost like Scarface like so after they escaped Maeve finally sees her daughter we know that she makes it to the safe place or the valley beyond or the sublime as a as apparently the writers call it um and it was really I was so stressed I was like just go across the thing please just like pusher in there and but you know it was really really sad was that she made it through that place the daughter made it with you know Maeve 2.0 and I'm like oh she's Maeve 2.0 is living naves life like the life that she always wanted and she pictured for herself yeah and she I mean it's great and she dies with a smile on her face which is like so fantastic but she was sacrificing everything and this other woman gets to live you know I just glad to that you could kind of see that the daughter started to remember her right she was waking up and being like oh I remember you and that was really sweet like that was a nice touching moment to give the yes for sure so slow though I'm like just Rhonda's right what are you guys think of that like the whole door store the whole idea of the door of like them going to a digital world and then like that's also like a very clunky thing where's this them running off a dirt ramp and it's a clean yeah going to their death I know and I really liked it when the first time the guy went through and then he dies into the pile and it's like oh it's like the rapture I thought it was boy yeah that's good that it cycle your body is just like a shell and they're being uploaded in somewhere yeah what I was confused though it was about why didn't Maeve just like stop everyone from fighting like the moment you know Clementine came in with her horse why didn't she like camera she just seemed to kind of like not do it until that's a good question I think she was so focused on our singular goal of get to my daughter gets my daughter that she was like I'm just gonna make sure they're safe and then I'll hold everybody off to let them go yeah I think she did six too much cognitive right yeah I think she was just focused on that because then as soon as she does hold them all she holds all of them yeah every single one but not the humans a killer yeah yeah so I do like the shot though with Clementine and front of the dune buggy's you know in the aerial shot I really enjoyed how when armistice shot Clementine you have that moment where like I took a breath and I didn't realize I had taken a breath and wasn't breathing and I'm just like okay they'll stop fighting right like please stop fighting please be done and then they just go right back into it like even when she's like quote-unquote dead I think yeah yeah but that's a I mean this is also a shot yes the angle that they shot it looked like a sniper kind of it was good I liked it yeah I was just gonna say like before she dies I also just heard that white dress of blood on her back riding on that and like the people parting ways and then slowly fighting it's it was just a really neat image and then yeah I was I had to say I was hoping for a little more may verse Clementine yeah the end we see that okay first of all Felix and Sylvester they've kind of like are in and out they have their little guns and stuff and like even semesters going along with your like but now they're back being Delos employee look so sad they look really sad about it but they also look like they're like oh we're still here oh okay right she's a host okay okay we can fix this yeah that was a great moment for the I mean what a neat moment that I think both of those characters had but also gave us a little hope for me because her pearls still they're an enormous like none of them had headshots none of them were like cognitively shot that's not a guarantee that the lightbulb seems like it may be bulletproof that holds the burden you would think cuz there's so many headshots just casually in West row they're like let's make the headshots a little bit yeah let's make the heads a little bit strong no I do hope that Felix and Sylvester will do something I think I I feel like they've changed even Sylvester was like don't do something I feel like he's kind of like reluctantly on their side but he's like come with them he's stuck with them all along like you figured it out a little yeah so hopefully maybe there'll be some sort of factor inside Delos somehow I don't know now what about that other guy the man and black guy that other guy Wow I actually do want to go back and watch the whole season again and kind of pick it apart and see just because now the understanding of how he's come full circle from human to host now I want to see how that changes and if if we missed big glaring clues or there I think he's he's human I think he's been human the whole time here I think he really did shoot his daughter definitely think that yeah yeah but then I wonder like does he do you think he obtained his goal of burning the whole place down I mean in one sense it didn't burn down like literally but is there enough Cassie's caused that there will not be a Westworld or I mean we know there's a couple hosts left but no so the post-credits scene both Jonathan Nolan and Lisa joy have said it takes place so far in the future that's not where season 3 is gonna take place I think joy said but it is a glimpse at what we're working toward yeah like Japan is interesting it's good it's like something to keep in mind like we know that maybe it's not like a whole earth apocalypse although maybe that could be on an alien's maybe who knows it looks very late 1970s Planet of the Apes where it's like the whole thing is over ground like used to be I was kind of putting it at like 30 years in my brain I wish I was taking Marley hunter because they say like 11,000 trial sometime and if you think about how I don't how long takes a make a host let's just say it takes like a day that's like a lot of days yeah but we learn earlier in the forge that the Logan caretaker made 18 million versions of Delos in 30 years so I mean it could even be shorter yeah you know you know the 5g networks rolling out yeah you gotta get that a limited planner it definitely takes place far in the future 3100 whatever what's more interesting to me is who the frak is controlling it oh I think it's obviously forward its I think that's like the hell of that is exactly what he did not want men in black to be on this loop and then not be successful with it it's like the perfect like Ford like well I like you know you choose to be printed and cloned and stuff and I thought well Madame black survives this his arm getting shot because you see him on the beach being rescued and stuff and then like it's like papadelis he's like okay I want to be a clone I want to live forever and then I just thought I assumed it was his choice to be you know reclone and being tested by his his host daughter or whatever but then I was like why would you want to like relive this loop you lived an awful life like why would you want to keep living this nightmare if I was him I just be like you know what I'm just gonna die when I'm 80 I don't like don't clone me what if he wanted to and he volunteered for it because he still feels that he needs to burn it down so what if he's like super self-aware even if I am a host I need to destroy all of them because this is a horrible pathway but he would also risk like living his terrible life like a thousand times yeah like killing his daughter a million times yeah I'm not saying it's a good idea that it's attributed to Einstein but I don't think as he said it but it's like doing the same thing over and over with the same results it's like insanity insanity I mean that's kind of what I felt that was that was the takeaway for that and that whether it's thirty a hundred years that it's far enough in the future that neither one of them is alive but you know in Italy she's such a good character but it's sad to know that she is truly dead yeah but he had to sign up to be a club but yeah maybe he was like okay I need to still be alive to ruin this thing but he wanted all that knowledge he wanted all that you know pain and suffering if his wife is his cornerstone if that death is his cornerstone he me and that knowledge and speaking of knowledge just might be a good way to pivot to Delores and Bernard because there's a lot of knowledge do we find how much 10 and including so they get into they get into the forge let's just get in there and then they get into the digital world and they are met with basically the interface which is in the form of Logan a very charming and handsome and not drugged abled okay I'm glad they reduced him he was just like I'm not Logan I'm just like this country yeah man Barnes is a great accent I'm super handsome you I to put me through this I would go on that museum tour yeah I would say that there was no innuendo there but maybe I don't know that being said so he explains the whole thing about humans are actually very very simple in the way we're built and that there's basically an analog of a book in each book is a person ten thousand two hundred forty seven lines of code Wow and every each book is a human it's ten thousand two hundred forty-seven lines of code and the hosts look at that is primitive and tiny and they think they'll their algorithm drives them is what the hosts say about humans I don't know I'm conflicted the idea of human lives as books is not new it's used all over the place I recently marathoned magicians so I kind of feel like it's like a cop-out because the same thing a speck like honey or even I know and so I'm like it's fine I get it I wish like other things they had come up with something new what are you gonna are you gonna data server and that is cute that the code matched like the piano music so we pointed out like or it's it I yeah I'm like doesn't use it Morse code is it just code no it's like that paper roll that when you know the shadow plays and then it was cool cuz like the robot I'm like right sit on like oh yeah that's true I think it's just a good decorative detail they're both oh you're right the book thing like humans lives as books are kind of like I mean I didn't get hung up too much on that metaphor but I think it was just neat the fact that the point is like we never change and I think maybe thinking back to like the French playwright like Moliere like that no matter what you do no matter of choices you make you're always gonna be the same person which is kind of like a very pessimistic outlook but yeah true for a lot of things in life they're I think that's that could be truthful and it just made you think like oh this whole thing is about the meaning of life it's less about I mean maybe in the line it's about cloning these humans for whatever purpose the seldom is host but I think it's more like metaphorical that's about like this is what the meaning of life is is you find that thing you find that moment and they that I really liked that scene where they showed what Delos papadelis moment was was that scene where he had his last conversation with Logan and that is the moment that to find him and I could think you know in my life there's been a moment or two like that where yours like that will be the moment that is it that's defines you you know and it could be in childhood could be when you're an adult I thought that was really neat because it was very relatable I understand they're the relatability of it and I like that I think like you said it's very pessimistic view because at one point even guide logan goes yeah they don't get it like they have no idea what drives them what they tell themselves is so far from the truth and that kind of sucks Lee it gave me a little self-awareness problem I'm like wait what I'm not driven by what I think I am what am i driven by I was like any movie when he said that he's like oh they're so predictable I was like drink I'm gonna smash this on my face so I don't like me you would have predicted that I just like want to go against my other algorithm but it makes you want to branch out or do yeah I don't know like I'm not like do something crazy but then I'm like oh is that predictable it's like Lynne will like it's when they had those like sentence structures and then they like mapped out of everything that Maeve would think that's how I feel yeah it's just like her I mean it's like when you go to a bar and if we go to a happy hour I know you're gonna want like a Stella I'm not just it is it friendship is it just we're creatures of habit visit we like what we like period that's all of West world though I did not mean it up but as I said the West world is like the whole idea that the hoster on loops that is metaphor for humans being there's patterns we live there's patterns we want to get into and we try to change those patterns a lot of time we slide back into the same but what if it's like nature versus nurture like if I was like plucked into like if I just like moved high schools and was like in a different state I might not like Stellos I don't yeah who knows but I think that I love that because it's like there's not the right answer you know whether from a human point of view or and they going back to West world literally that there is a recipe book for the humans and I love that UK when she sees the Peter strand when you're like oh yeah that's gonna happen and I didn't know what was gonna happen and I was so excited when it did happen but let's get let's get okay so they get in they see all the things then they activate Bernard activates are we calling it Eden I don't know really have to call the digital world for the host escape to which is like kind of like a Garden of Eden for the hosts I don't know Dolores pulled a dick move first so maybe making the choice for all the who yeah and it's like you were talking about wanting to be free and she's like this is just another golden chain thing built by humans I don't want to be a part of it and nobody should want to be a part of it I'm so crazy it's not your choice to make she sees it as this is a cop-out well this is just another crappy world Florida's built for you it's not real yeah and then she says what's real is irreplaceable I'm like well this sublime place seems kind of irreplaceable it's hidden and you can't find you can't duplicate and she's like yeah this is nothing it's like they should go in the real world I'm like sucks like what seriously it's like yeah but she was like you know what is real is irreplaceable I'm like I feel like this place has like a one time shot and like people are struggling to you don't want to go fine yeah fine at least let those who want to go yeah and they cannot blindly just like going there not her I was saying that's why you never trust a robot host yeah but so Bernard because of that he shoots her kills Dolores kills Dolores so then we jump to this scene where Bernard is basically in the control room and it's in the future now the aftermath of all this and there's Charlotte Hale there Peter strand and we see what I thought I did not see it coming that basically Charlotte is now Dolores or hih Laura's is what we call her yeah yeah Hail Mary Oh Laura's so he basically was like yeah I need Dolores back okay I need someone like with who's a killer and being been strong enough to kind of execute this plan with me so he prints her in Hales form and then she shoots her human yep which is awesome yeah cuz Dolores promised she was gonna kill her yeah in Episode seven Dolores was like I will get you bitch yeah she does herself it's like the perfect in your face yeah it was really cool like to have it's like an escaped convict escaped as being disguised as like the warden uh-huh that's a good one yeah well and the other thing I liked about too is like I felt like the whole season like I'm just tense times it's such a good actress but it's been kind of like a little OneNote like I'm evil and I'm in charge listen to me and then but then like and I asked a couple of shows ago my god there's got to be something more to it like maybe she's gonna be nicer right and you're like yeah good luck with that and I she's not nice the point is yeah there was something more she's like that's why exactly exactly and that I just wanted that's where I'm like I can't wait for next season if got to be the case I'm excited okay so they're out of the park now which I was so Vinick I just felt so validated even though this whole season validates everything even contradictory theories like that's true that's also true even though they caught yeah but I was like in the beginning of season two I was like I would love it for this to end of Dolores stepping on off some raft into the real world or something and I kind of got that but it was in Charlotte's body but I guess she's on the boat and yeah she's gonna be in the real world so it was really cool feel like the third drastic park woody the dinosaurs finally get on mainland like ode like we had to get him there and now they're loose in the well they're gonna be and yes I think you mean Jurassic world which just came out well now the third yeah there was Jurassic Park Patrick didn't mention to me we would like privately had this conversation about what we wanted the art what do we want like Westworld to be I was like oh and ready yeah sounds like season one's gonna be the you know getting realizing consciousness season 2 is going to be the rising in season three it's gonna be like when they're in the real world world yeah terrorizing humans and then Patrick was like oh that's like the pot to the Jurassic Park yes on my own which is a great plot to follow also written by no I mean I I think it's great I'm excited for the trajectory of it I also I mean going back to hey Laura's I love seeing her step on that raft I like to that when she looked at her little Kate Spade there were five pearls oh my god I also at the bag I was like I said I'm okay I thought I wasn't sure it's looks very familiar that's why we spend a lot of time on kids because clearly um she looks in and there's five pearls so I wonder who so we know one is Bernard because she builds him later resi that could one beat Eddie cause it Eve didn't go through the weird thing where his body got into the canyon but maybe when she uploaded it from the Pearl does it automatically erase the part I think I heard rate question is it could be Teddy could do that it does erase him that's what I think yeah I mean I think the whole point of the sublime is that that's you're there go it's a upload as you change the coordinates like no no one could touch it I think that's the Fate she wants for tech I think I think you look at that face yeah so the coordinates - yes oh yeah it's on a server yeah but he knows where it is so maybe there is a chance that there's a way to reconnect with that right that's okay but I think it's not Teddy only because the future I think that Delores wants for him is just to be at peace and like I think the pearls that she's bringing our people that she could find useful in the real world - like well I don't think it's useful so much as people that she thinks are necessary for the survival of her species yeah because that's exactly what she tells Bernard when she remakes him and then she's sitting there giving him the fidelity test and waking him up and the camera pans is Dolores leaves and we see there's still Charlotte Hales body so whose inhale you guys know but I agree with you and once she said is useful for the that's why I think Teddy just to close the loop on this like that's why I think Teddy is not one of the pros yeah I don't think so who do you think they are I mean cuz we know if probably not Maeve I think maybe oh you do think she got to me she's so she's so powerful I want it I would love for it to be the people that she made eye contact with yeah I saw as she's leaving towards stuff like that was thanking armistice I made Hector yeah Bernard and I would love for them to like gender switch like that inhales body is Hector Hector just cuz but also if I was Dolores I might want to keep dolor like second question is a second to its producers like what's better than one of me is to me but is having Charlotte Hale you know a member of Delos board hella important yeah and delish just keeps a version of herself the show there that commissioned that development is gonna be super strange Charlie just be like shooting guns what is going on like Dolores and Wyatt from season one so there could be like that idea of her personalities switching or splitting has already been there a little bit so maybe there could be that yeah that's true and with Bernard now as could tinker and fix things the way she wants that makes me as exhausting as I felt as exhausted as I felt after the end of the episode yesterday I was also like okay they have season three could be pretty cool yeah yeah I also like that they she set that up when she you know put Bernard back on line was that she's like you and me don't agree but I learned a few things about life and it's like I should give people options you killed me and brought back brought me back to life I killed you I'm gonna bring you back to life and we're not gonna agree on everything but we will help each other grow yes we'll help each other like have like have our species survive my forward yeah so she knows that like she needs him some way and they might they might even end up killing each other she says that but she's like this truly partisan politics she's like she's reaching across the aisle and saying like I don't agree with my party that's a very biblical to like the fact that like you know he resurrects her and you know like he's the chair than one but at the same time they you know the devil wasn't a fallen angel yes you're painting in the back we gotcha yeah that's the whole thing you're that hand and hear the other hand you're drawing each other hand is the hand she like she's like we creates him and she's like alright now leave and try not to ruin my plans too much I'm the super villain you're gonna be the you're gonna be my arch-nemesis but like try let's just try to figure this one out together my problem with this episode has just been it's just it's lost a lot of the emotional ocelot of their heart and I love the riddles I love the timelines it keeps me going on it but at the end of day it just felt kind of like empty calories just like I just wanted I wanted something a little more heartfelt and the moments there were they didn't did go far enough for me and then and I've been asked I've been saving this question for the whole season news is Westworld a good show for me I think so because I love the twists and turns I love the puzzles I love the depth of the characters and for me a good show makes me think about it I can just keep thinking about it all the time and yes often when I watch Westworld I need a palate cleanser afterward like Parks and Rec or Brooklyn nine-nine or something just totally hilarious other side of the spectrum but to me that doesn't mean it's bad that means that you know I can take a break and then let my wheels kind of turn later and I like that I think like different shows serve different purposes I don't watch this show particularly to be super invested in the characters even though there are really good characters I really like I think what's strong about Westworld is the unpacking and packing sometimes it's very frustrating but sometimes people like that and there's not a show there's not a lot of shows like that so I think I could only deal with one but uh but it's kind of like we reverse engineering what these writers are doing and that in itself is like fine as a viewer yeah if I get it wrong if it's too frustrating yeah I could take a break and stuff but I don't it my number one priority is not to be invested super into the characters I'm sure there might be a show that could do all that like get you invested here's a really crazy store you have to pack here's the thing I don't know a show that has like oh it's called Doctor Who and is it like that to unpack like with all the next Doctor Who like season but even even it like it's like that's that's definitely a different all right super different vibe difference I mean I feel like that the vibe of it is what I enjoy about it and I've been but I wouldn't go like tell my daddy brother oh you should watch the west-world and the way wouldn't tell us when to watch the loss because I feel like there's certain people I could say that to be like I know they're gonna love it I'm there I love the mystery they're gonna love the frustration when it is frustrating and it is frustrating sometimes but for me the I do think it's a good show I think it's one of those shows though I don't see myself watching it over and over again I might revisit it just to look back and like oh that's where she was Dolores or that's where this happened but yeah for me like but then I think of another show on that Network like Game of Thrones where it's their shocking moments but it's not like hmm is you know is the dragon going to be a good dragon or is it gonna be the ice dragon or all these things I also think it does a good job at like building a human story around really complex issues about like technology and iodine consciousness and like I would read like Wikipedia entries about like how does a robot you know achieve full consciousness or how do we know and then you read like a dry wiki entry and you're like okay I guess that's like some thing that ethics are thinking about and then they write a whole story about it and I'm I find myself like well what is consciousness how do we didn't know that what's real what's it's a very philosophical show yeah and then that when I don't know that could take you know these really long term philosophy Asafa collections and build a human story around it and then have you thinking about it like on your bus ride home and the bus ride home for like that every three months yeah which I think this is gonna make me do so now that it's there's no more Westworld season two what are ways we can fill our time and well we come up with two of them so we actually have two Westworld games so we really get a cut away from our lovely studio into our very own see that lab do you know where you are like you've seen it before or does it feel like you're finally seeing for the first time it's called the maze so basically you play a host and it's part radio drama part trivia and you got to go through three different levels to find your own consciousness or get to the center of the maze you want try it yeah sure Alexa open Wes world you're new not much I've arrived on you not that one Clem they're here for something else this maze has three levels memory improvisation and eventually self-interest to pass each level and to the questions as they are asked it's not easy but I can tell you on and on do you yes have you ever wanted to take control and create your own world in this simulation you get to decide the future of the park from the ground up so make it the west-world of your dreams so Warner Brothers created a game where you can actually be a Delos technician in Westworld controlling the hosts building the hosts killing the hosts rebuilding the hooks and everything in between so what you do is it's kind of like a little Sims village where you've built the dello space ax underneath the ground and above is sweet water or lust motifs or escalante and you have all the different towns and you can just go through and kind of make your hosts interact with visitors or you know kind of edge the visitors to kill the host however psychotic you want to be about it there's an option for you all right and welcome back to the studio before we go we normally talk about what our hopes are next so what are we hoping for season 3 I'm cool 5 group robots trying to destroy mankind o+ arnold trying to stop that thank you I'm definitely intrigued by the uprising in the real world and how it's gonna work and also seeing more of the real world because we've only got yep nighttime dark limpid glimpses of and also this last finale thing - had a very like Blade Runner II soundtrack like the can is like wow there's like oh right they got that soundtrack um now personally what are you guys gonna do with all the headspace you gain back from what having to watch the West world I'm gonna re-watch the wire and then get into this show everyone keeps talking about Breaking Bad or whatever so some what some light drama I'm gonna start a letter-writing campaign to george RR martin encouraging him to finally publish winds of winter there's gonna add my comments to the stack of everyone else on the internet cuz man finishing the show before the books it's really sucks um i just started like season 2 of Luke Cage Netflix oh yeah it is really good it's really good I'm only too deep so I'm sure it takes off from there but it's definitely a much different vibe than Westworld and it's very satisfying vibe that Patrick likes oh yeah well that being said it's it's over so this is not only over a show but this is our 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