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hello and welcome to the west-world morning after after show I'm Patrick I'm Lynne and I'm Caitlin and we're all editors at C net and big fans of the show Wes world so today we're going to talk about season 2 episode 1 titled journey in tonight maybe a little Eugene O'Neill reference long day's journey tonight any theater people yeah all right fair warning any time there will most definitely be spoilers but only for the episode we're talking about today let's go through the episode let's talk about what happened when we first started we saw Byrne Arnold talking with Delores open Arnold definitely one of them and they were kind of telling Dolores about a dream they had which is what makes me think it's probably Arnold because Bernard never really had dreams so he's telling her you know he felt like he was separated from his friends he washed up on a beach and then he tells her the line we've seen in the trailers Dolores sometimes you frightened me well creepy and if she gives a creepy smile she gets really creepy like why would I ever find you people I don't do weird things yeah I mean now we know exactly why he should be frightened by Dolores but back then who knows so then we transition immediately to Bernard we think waking up on the beach in the exact same scene that Arnold just described in his dream it was very inception a dream sequence opening on the beach so yeah like there's a lot going on in like his flashback that montage which showed us a lot how I loved that montage the future cut like of things to come right so then we we think we see that montage of things to come but maybe there are things that already happened we know that this isn't the first robot uprising we know that a lot of these things have happened before could this be simply memories that Arnold has from previously could this be or rather memories that Bernard has I guess cuz Arnold it's long gone by then we talk about the lady the security lady with like it looks like us hololens or something like eh that's just badass look like that is like badass security upgrade from the first season I think I don't think we ever saw her before right no she is a new character in this season paid by played by Betty Gabriel she was also in get out as the gal who has the lone tear she's smiling like no no maybe that's why she has to wear the glasses to appear like hey that was for get out this is different I totally do the thing and we don't know what's up with us not you can it be sunglasses that are really big and bug-eyed they could maybe be something else because one thing she's doing is she's looking for robots or hosts she's flipping through some red cards that look very suspicious I like how just analog how analog that is like has a deck of cards even though there's like these crazy tabloids because then we see the hologram and what's it like with one of the Gulf Wars they gave like the soldiers the American soldiers a deck of cards all the bad guys on it I'm not making this up like okay maybe it was like the Afghan exactly you were there everybody's like variety packs afterwards but getting back to the cards to the red cards but you made a point cuz it's like oh weird why would she see that he's a host and you're like maybe they're not a host right so if you zoom in and look closely I actually says high priority like he's a high priority target or a high priority employee so maybe they're actually people that they're trying to keep safe maybe those are actually ones that they want to you know keep with their core group because then from that point on we do see Bernard stay with that group we see the scalping of a host but specifically an interesting example was it was a Native American hood and then a takeout it looks almost like a weird light bulb that's is like processer out of the brain right and that was that's the first time you've ever seen inside the brains or light bulb processors yes smart bulbs but we do know it is their processing center so perhaps Phillips Hughes is gonna be taking over the future where their light bulb I hope that came out just like an old like that I got a Jacob's Ladder thing yeah okay so he takes it out first he's really upset it's not a sterile environment he takes it out and you don't like fans she plugs it into his tablet wait wait no no okay so that moment really that's one time at me he says Oh sterile environment said and then he blows on it and we all know like there's no three-second rule it doesn't work that way he's blowing germs and saliva on to think Oh sterile environment just rub it off human rubs it on his pant yeah so we see that and then I think the next thing we jump to is we see guests then they're hiding in a stable and they're obviously being hunted by some of the HOS yes yes and some of the people that we see in the stable our Bernard and Charlotte Hale you remember Charlotte Hale is one of the VPS or you know one of the boarded on the board of directors for dillos and we know that she was up to some kinky stuff last year in case you don't remember she was the one who was orchestrating the exodus question of Peter Abernathy so that they could get him out of the park and that was actually what she had done in the season finale was send Lee to go make sure that Peter Abernathy got out of the park which come will come in well we figure out literally in the episode that because a big plot point and then they have this little stable boy comes in and then the guests are freaked out we got to kill them it's like that felt weird to me I mean I think it's a very clear-cut mob mentality scene this is what happens when you let one mob rule take over and that was a really striking scene for me and Bernards like trying to protect the stop them from hurting the boy and then was do you guys remember what the line to Charlotte had yeah a hero don't care don't worry about the words yes like damn super cold that is burn yeah that's so do you think Charlotte knows about Bern Arnold that's what I've been what I don't know I have some questions about that but I'm moving on so we go back we get to the they kill the sample boy and then one of the when we watch it we all were like laughing and cheering we cut to Dolores riding on horseback firing a rifle and it's to the music of the sting for the money the sting why did you like that moment so much I loved it because they dichotomy of it it's just so like it's such an uplifting piece of music that makes you feel like oh god yes this Western this piece is great and then there's Dolores just kind of being a badass and like shotgunning humans while riding her horse I don't think I'm supposed to be happy no no that's sounding that it was really cool I mean do you think of that moment I thought it was pretty badass I'm not like a huge fan of her character but like having that shot was actually pretty cool yeah that was kinda like payoff for season one and then we see her hanging guests and their guests they're a bunch of crosses and as a cemetary and guests are standing on it with the noose around the neck it reminded me of the Sergio Leone Western the good the bad the ugly when the character of Tuco is standing atop the grave on the cross with a noose around his wrist and that movie Clint Eastwood rides off the distance and like he's a like a target shooter and able to slice the line above his head so he's free but Dolores is not so kind and then what was the whole thing with like you're in my dream when he was telling the guests that I that's a tough one I'd liked how she knows about her own internal dichotomy she's like you know Dolores feels like I should see the good in you Dolores feels like I should really just be happy for you and live with you where's Wyatt she knows there's something wrong with you and that you're evil and you know I I think she feels somewhere in between I don't think she really knows how she is to come to terms with what she feels about humans I think she has two totally disparate thoughts and she needs to find her way into that spectrum of like actually I kind of like some humans but that's I mean that raises a whole nother level of how just how conscious do we really think Dolores Wyatt is I think she's leaning this season it'd be nice for her to lean on her Wyatt side only because all last season it's just her being Dolores okay being nice and being taken advantage of advantage of and being assaulted and if she's like all Wyatt a hundred percent Wyatt this season I'm totally yeah okay so that is all good and stuff but what about the mana black we have not seen them yet and the first time we see him I forget what happens I've body's off himself yeah Oh Teddy deals his arm okay so yeah he heals his arm talks to his horse which is a huge moment of humanity for him the horse him talking to his horse it's the first time he's ever been truly happy to see something and he goes up to the horse he's like hey Ned let's have some fun and he showers it with affection that's not a good one he's like oh let's have some fun because now I could die and people are dying he's just a psychic what I'm saying is that's the first moment that we see like an actual inside-the-park human moment from William wait his horse's name Ned just that okay so he's he comes like BAM body body body and now the scene that I thought was it was a really insane scene is he meets little boy a little boy Ford and I could barely understand what he was saying yes like all death contact this is why I watch with the captions on protip we watched it with you with me and a little boy I'd be like what and he's just like telling me secrets I'm like what so we see the boy see the boy he says weird cryptic things like now I have something for you the door find the door okay so what is the door the door like the maze well good point yeah good point but what is the door like a door into his mais door into Seoul or the door to another level does the man in blue is the man in black as ambiguous or metaphorical as all the things he's trying to decipher like in season 1 when he's looking at the game and stuff is the maze an actual maze where he feels like if he finds a secret door entrance he will then have another level or is it more of a philosophical thing I think it's all entirely philosophical I think the difference though is that exactly what young Ford said the maze was made for the robots the door is for William yeah he's like finally I created something for you cuz you went and shot everything so here you go right Premium Subscription there you go you get your my door and the entire first season was about the host kind of coming to terms and self actualizing and learning for themselves that they could learn for themselves and I think the second season is about how the humans kind of rectify that how they come to terms with the fact that now these are kind of real beings they're made of organic material we see them get shot and bleed all the time now they're thinking for themselves and improvising on a whim how do we continue to deny them the same basic rights and things that we have and I think the door is the door to like higher learning and the door to kind of acceptance in the door to the outside world not just for man in black William but also for the robots well he just opens the door and gets shot in the face I was like I mean I know he's like a valuable character and really like Ed Harris and his interpretation of it but it was like he's just a psycho who's just like I want to kill stuff I want stuff with real-world consequences like this is also dead time in the real world then and that's what you want but yeah I think that was a really good that was a really good kind of moving William forward moment I think it was really important and speaking of moving forward we see may finally we see me so what happens in baby now she spend time with Lee my one of my favorite scenes is when she makes him like strip all his clothes and he's just like really nervous about it and then just hit her and the other bandit guy forgot his name Hector Hector had like no problem Venus it's like you make us go naked every time you just do a check up on us and like sit down and buck naked it's like you could do this Li like whatever if I find pride in your body and your little skinny rider body and she's like yeah I'm pride yeah but I liked it she's like yeah you're gonna be there you could be naked I'm gonna humiliate you and just be naked but also besides the shaming of Lee there that's an interesting dynamic thing between Maeve and Lee cuz we haven't really seen them work together I like that I like that we're like in a second season of something that they kind of like MIT like REME mismatched characters that don't spend a lot of screen time in the previous met in the previous season kind of like in strangers things too when it's like Steve and okay yeah yeah that was a good pairing they did that one thing with that thing oh man that was crazy changer things speaking of catching up we got to catch up with Simon quarterman the actor who plays Lee Sizemore and learn about what we can expect from Westworld season two took her it took a minute for us to kind of reconvene to shoot the second season and we shot we shot it all in about you know seven months we took it all together six or seven months so sometimes we might like like one episode one suddenly we will be shoot will be shooting that and then then come in and say actually we need to shoot something from Episode eight and you have no idea what it actually is the scene where it's you know and how it fits at that particular point so we only got the scripts a week before you know shooting each episode really kept on our toes in that way we just go along with it just but it was big it was a blast so much fun his relationship with the hosts in the past has been purely functionary you know they've been they've been there for one reason and one reason only and that's to tell his stories the way that he wants them told you know it's his stories his his lines absolutely everything that's it to them easy they're their props to him however they are also part of him you know because he's written them so so will we see him grow as a human I think you know but from the first episode and in that in a particular scene where he's stripped down it's his first kind of I think that's a hugely symbolic scene in so many ways in terms of you know the the roles have been reversed completely you know the hosts are now in control but also for Lee it's the beginning of the the breaking down of him you know so will we see him grow as a human perhaps I've enjoyed playing Lee so much you know I find him ending intensely interesting character to play and and yeah and it's funny because even though he's kind of like comes across as being well I know how he comes across you know he's a but I think all of that is like hiding a fragility you know with him that that I've you know found really interesting to play often on all those people with the really puffed up egos often as we can see pretty much on a daily basis at the moment playing out not politics not get to deeper than that but we see just how fragile that is so that's been really interesting for me to explore you know and so I think that going into the second season with that and there's opportunity for that to kind of like perhaps break down a little bit alright that was a lot of fun and we have a ton more clips from that interview that will be showing you throughout this season on the after show but for now let's close out and talk about our favorite moments Layne we know yours was Lee and Maeve that is an awesome pairing I hope we see so much more from them yeah that's gonna be so good what's your favorite my favorite moment was probably the Bengal tiger oh my god that was so crazy like I got like shivers when I saw okay I think it really signifies that this isn't just an island with West world I think we're gonna see all six parks on this island I think we're gonna see that for didn't just flip a switch and awaken the West world host I think he flipped a switch and open the gates of hell oh well the least visited is like the last moment when we and the head of Delos asked Bernard hey just work with me tell me what happened and he says I killed them come on yes that is 100% scary I have so many questions like how he killed them and his suit is like no robot blood on him he just drowned them one by one it was very very like a boy do you know that this we saw previously with the scalping earlier in the episode with Bernard we learned that since that point in time whatever point that was after the crazy party that was almost 12 days later so we're 12 days past at least 12 days past the party so like almost a month so there's a lot of time for Bernard to not be Bernard for Bernard to be a different Bernard so there could be more than one Bernard the trailers have hinted that there might not be just one Bernard this season now I didn't believe you but we took a look at the trailers and there was indeed that shot and it's like a meat locker there's a couple Bernards that are like a deep storage or whatever yes and it's you guys thought I was kidding I was mad cuz I thought you gave me a spoiler and I'm like that's not in the trailer and then we went frame by frame and it isn't a trailer so we know that there are multiple Bernard's and a first we're just like oh yeah it's just a meat locker but they could actually all be active so the Madonna that we're seeing might not be the Menard that we know in our sides and if it's in the trailer it could be like something that at least the creator's want to get like let us know so it's not what a maybe maybe it was just a quick look because they just wanted you to like drill down if you drill down on those you get a little Easter Egg anyway yeah I think we have a lot of questions for the news well I don't know about you guys but I mean I'm just grateful that we've been talking about this and how these delicious drinks and and which rolls back and season to you may have been dosing been drinking these delicious they're called the gold rush yes so we're talk to Kaitlyn kilos he teaches how to make a gold rush and Kaitlyn's cocktail corner the recipe calls for two ounces of bourbon and three-quarter ounce lemon squeeze this is kind of like a whiskey sour but more of like a summer variation so we're doing it over ice it's a little you know just a nice little refreshing drink and then usually we would do about 3/4 ounce of honey syrup shake until it's freezing on your hand Hey look at that frost without tasting based on your reaction there gold rush - lemonade - honey yeah okay good nice okay I'll make you one Patrick hmm since my work area is already Sunderman oh good and there you go so that's the first episode thank you for watching join us next week as we cover episode two of Wes world 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