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we're talking about back-to-school stuff back-to-school tech is the sort of theme that we're going with right now we're all parents some very new some experienced more experienced so you have a three-month-old yes right Joe how old are your kids well my son is eight you'll be knighted right my daughter is gonna be three November third so yeah I got that nice little gap between the two but they are both iPad savvy with children already yes yeah my son actually has an own cell phone what really that's a thing a hand-me-down or like a new one I gave him he has a 5s okay yes oh there's a better phone than my mom is that about if you pass your mom down one of your phones you'd be doing better the 5s was my fault it was my older phone I think it was small enough for me actually originally that started with the 4s I moved into the 5s I got an upgrade I upgraded them because I got so old age yeah I got sick of carrying two charges a 30 pin and a lightning it's one one Lightning so alright let me explain my right this is how I come to have all these phones what I do is no I don't care i buy it i buy a new phone every year yeah and instead of you paying for the insurance I keep the older one it's my backup in case I lose it or break it so basically I have I don't pay insurance I just live on the edge yeah well I'm glad you it don't wear underwear ever well I I definitely do I buy the new one and I keep the other one as a backup so fortunately I've been lucky so far because I don't have a backup as of now cuz I gave him my 5s and Leah's phone got stolen and I gave her my my six well I got a question okay so eight years old a time of grand imagination sure a time of running around with more energy than we know what to do with do you feel any regrets over giving him a phone like he's going to the phone to play games instead of doing other fitness like you know running around physical toys or certainly thank you David karna he gave me a life proof case so he has had it in his pocket and ran through the sprinkler before and everything okay he was still active but that's not what we're getting at whereas but he does he does he does use his phone but there was a case where he was out with my mom and he got separated and the first thing he did was call me and I asked him look up at the street sign he told me where he was all right of course I was playing Pokemon go and I talked well I talked him home I even talked him across yeah he was only two blocks away that's not coming on but yeah yes but so here we are so so that worked and also the fact that when he's in summer camp and he goes on trips yeah and see where he is because I find my friends I know his location look no I we're not judging you well I oh I by no means I'm telling you I'm telling you my reasons of it I think I think it's important to talk about how old is it okay how old should a child be before they have their own phone I feel like most people would think aid is on the earlier side it's definitely earlier but the thing is is that I learned from from him breaking one of my iPads that it's better to have let him have his own thing to break glass is like the only one with the phone in his class the other other kids in Africa so here's what I think should happen and they're not really allowed to bring it to school yeah I would not think you would be allowed to bring it I think the thing that I'm gonna look for when my son who's what is he he's a month a year in five months when he's ready for something like that I might want to get him like a watered down like hit this button for emergencies but on watches now yeah like you know GPS I was thinking of terms like that cross your mind yeah before I was I was fortunate because I had a line that I wasn't using and I was paying before I just dumped it down all right what are you saying so I catch yourself from like that we're talking more about like the you know the general like not everyone is in your position with all your lines you don't know what to do with them and stuff like that you got phones coming every hole well I pay for my mom's phone a favorite brain but like do you we're getting down to is like eight-year-old should they have a cell phone versus you know I want to I keep saying like a jitterbug because that's the whole you know what I think it also depends on each particular situation like you know you know you're still married you're what Stacy you're married my son's mother and I are no longer together right so it's kind of good for me because I can also reach out directly to him without it feel like I'm cramping her style like okay okay this dude that complicated bothering me is accessible kid I call him directly he can FaceTime me anytime he wants it's not like if his mother is using her phone and he should call me so I kind of like that he can always a lot of layers I'm always accessible I mean you can ask a report today an outcome you can ask him he's like take it in the other room because one of my son calls me I get up I take his call and never want him to feel like Oh daddy's not gonna be there right okay you never have a leave a voicemail for dad I mean if you call me during the show I may have to reply what attack right now that's fine um what about other tech like outside of a phone I mean loans are like that I think I think the segue to him getting a phone was he's had an iPad for a number of years I got him when he turned I think like four I bought him an iPad Mini and I just felt there was like such a big investment that I went against what I would normally do and I got him the 16k because i yeah or it also you know so I got on the sixteen gigabyte which is okay but he had it he's had it and he still has it to this day it's it's still intact it's also in a lifeproof case I was like okay he took care of his iPad and I kind of transit it to the phone because the phone has a cellular connection and I mean this kid loves him some YouTube yeah he's made YouTube videos he wants me to upload but I mean I've seen some some of the comments in our cruel they are with us I can't have mr. on my son before puberty that's that's like the big question one like it's on a case-by-case basis with kids and how mature they are you started with the iPad to see how he was with it you also don't want to not give them the opportunity to test out things like oh get really into YouTube videos or want to create things you know so you want to like not set them behind when everyone else in school has anything like that so there's that funny balance but I actually I was surprised with something with my three month old yeah I was gonna say your daughters super young but but my parents are in Florida okay and we FaceTime and she miles at them like my husband went on a work trip and she recognized him on a totally totally that blew my mind and I also had that moment of like am i doing a wrong thing because you should look at a screen that's young but it's amazing screams daddy like this is like almost magical future moments you know where you can you know read a story you know from a from across the country you know so I know she's gonna be seeing mom and dad always do this because it's our job and she's gonna want to play with the phone because it's what parents do so I want to do that too really I'm gonna do my hardest to not give her the screen if it's possible but then I can't judge it's gonna be a time where I'm at that restaurant and just like every toddler you know maybe or I'm on an airplane and you're held hostage with everyone else you don't want a crying kid on the airplane so you'll do something to entertain them and you'll put a screen in front of their face I'll have to go through those lessons as I as I hit them I guess it's it's tough definitely starts when you're on the road yeah I you know right now I'm at the point where my kid he get he totally understands like what the FaceTime is it's so funny because like when it hangs up heat like it's the phone's off and it's down and then he's just like waves by like that like ten seconds later he's like okay bye like I don't know where you went you over here a second ago and to me it's like oh man he's like something's going on in his brain that's just not connecting the dots like it's poor kid like you know like he'll reach out to it a lot like he wants to he wants Stacey to like pick him up I was like sorry dude she's like 40 miles away it's weird it's a really it's like a heartbreaking kind of thing and I wasn't expecting him to be that sort of engrained in it this early in his life but he's already I didn't even understand what they're looking at yeah he know like this is maybe a little tangential but like he'll you know we don't watch a lot of TV with him yeah he maybe has like two hours a week of TV right but he'll sit on the couch and he knows the remote like does something so he'll just like pick it up and just look at the TV and be like why okay like I have one you know and that's the connections they make their basic but they're their own with an infant you can you in a newborn you can kind of watch TV and you know it you know last night we were watching stranger things and she was watching it too yeah like the whole time is on it and I'm going are you watching identify with know it's tough there there's a lot of you know weird things that I'm just getting into right now and you know you dealt with it you'll get there yeah it's weird and children and technology it's funny years my daughter's too and like I said she's going on three and she'll get up so like when she facetimes me she has to hang up yeah I mean her mother sent me a video one time because she was kind of being a little running around not paying attention so I hung it up her mother recorded her throwing the biggest tantrum because she couldn't hit the button because she had he likes to go bye-bye and hit the button she has to hit the ball and there's stuff like that on we have some interaction here on Facebook Jim says kids do not need smartphones and definitely not at school but Jim I feel like a lot of people might disagree with you especially some of the effed up stuff that happens in schools these days maybe having some sort of communicative device is necessary I don't know his problems yeah things like yeah yeah come along no loss problems with high school kids so because these are terribly mean right that's the thing like there's no streamlined situation there's there's just the best you can do I agree like I don't think kids need smartphones but you know I think in this day and age there is something you need to give them that lets them call for help like their we can't like we can't live in 2016 given the technology we are afforded and have a child who is by themselves happy in a situation where they're helpless without something like they I think like the old school equivalent me being old and dating back to like that dude I grew up without cell phones to generation my console thing before cell phones these have prepaid cards and my mom gave me a prepaid card like the home card it only allowed me to call the home phone from an outside payphone so even as a child I had that where I guess now the equivalent would be a cell phone so growing up even I had some way to call home from a payphone I've had no money or yeah also on Facebook someone says that there should be a low tech phone for kids they're like four buttons pre-programs yeah it's like call my cell her cell or the police it's a plan its money so if you're gonna earn that money down for a plan do you do what Joey did ago oh I have an old phone let me just attach it to that like I said also the fact that I have a really good deal on my plan yeah it's unlimited its I have three lines unlimited data unlimited taxing and three gig hotspot okay here's the part where Joey shows off his plan well I'm just saying it's just it's just unlimited everything and get a Joey you're super cool everyone anyway okay so basically how my son's phone came to be okay I guess his arm my godson yeah he lived he lived in New York and he his mom worked at five world trade and she was there 9/11 and it just shook her up and she moved out of the city she just could not get far enough worthless okay so he wanted to come stay in the city one summer so he stayed with me his family couldn't reach him he has family in the city but they live like upstate he wanted to stay with me because I was in Manhattan so I initially got the phone for him and I just never shut it off and then when he got old enough up he's 28 now when he got old enough he was like I can't have you paying for my phone so he has his own line I literally had the line sitting there he had to do something with it something to be said though about having access to a computer for garlis of the phone or the computer but but really just being comfortable enough to just be around it in my home growing up we only had one PC now everyone's got their own laptop sure but I paused it and I was on a mall the time I became a faster type or more confident in talking to people I I was able to play around with stupid little things and I was more comfortable to computers now I ha get from my little brother and I don't know if he's as fast of a diaper as I am you know this game it thinks you know and also there are benefits to doing your homework now you cannot you need an internet connection they expect you to have you know computer access at home now if you want to succeed so you don't want to set your kid back by not giving them the best yeah I mean the way it's it's just like it's just like when I was growing up you know we all didn't have computers at first and we just went to the kids house who had it so it's not it's not a question of them not having a you know accessibility they will get their hands on it yeah at least this way you can govern it you can monitor yeah you can set the parental play yeah they're gonna talk anyways their kids online my son's you know five nights at freddys this fine line I mean he has like every five nights at freddy figure but he's afraid to play the game it's the funniest thing yeah he knows it from other kids I cannot believe how much they've license out that brand that's crazy um you guys feel you don't know the game five nights at Freddy's I'm not know has nothing to do with that don't worry about it