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welcome to the 359 where we talk about the top tech news of the day and all the other crap we want to throw in I'm Roger Cheng now Malford ring so the reviews are in and critics are decidedly neutral the iphone 7 is out Devlin 7 plus it's not a lot huge enthusiasm I think a lot of people are you know they sort of say the disclaimer that this is the best iPhone that's never been made which of course it has to be because it's the newest iPhone they think it's a worthy upgrade if you're looking for an upgrade but you don't get this phone what do you think of the sort of summary of the the reviews that came in I think neutral is about to describe all of it because that's that's really what the upgrade was um you know for them to say this is the best iphone that we've ever had well again you know it's not like they're going to go on stage and just say is it's not as good as well remember that iphone 4 that was our peak and base is okay basically you know it neutral is exactly what the iphone 7 deserves as its review you know it's faster as it should be you know it is it did everything that was it was expected to be but it's done nothing to go above and beyond which yep where i'll be were definitely you look at competition out there you look at the design though hate to bring up the galaxy note 7 because it does blow up with the tendency to explode but look at the design that phone and it's clear that apples competitors have not not only caught up but it really exceeded in some levels sort of apples aesthetic advantaged right yeah that being said though I will say that these 7 plus um I really feel like that's where the seven should have won the dual cameras are a big advantage but the fact is that you know for me to have to get this giant phone to get that kind of really cool feature it's kind of a downer for me I know we know but your your hand issues it's it's cool well no but I also really like the camera right right no it's better that mean that was the premise of the article I wrote last week right but basically if you want the latest & Grace an apple you've got to pay that step of thing you've got a drawer happy this gigantic phone for a lot of people that's that's a real hang-up I think a lot of probably the biggest hang-up still is the headphone jack I think it's a controversy that won't die and in a lot of the reviews I think folks were kind of lukewarm they didn't think that the upgrade to iphone 7 was really worth losing the headphone jack yeah i agree with that i was eligible to update to the seven and i just said i'm not going to do it because I first of all I spent a lot of money my headphones already right and then for me to do that and then I mean I know people have made the argument you can get the adapter but yeah but then it gets I'm you know with me and phones it's always been about optimizing like space yeah I pocket and then for you to carry one more thing which again one more thing to lose which you know if you're the type of person that is always replacing your headphones or you know always losing them now it's like another thing for you to lose and then yeah then there's the argument of basically well what if I want to urge my phone and listen to music at the same time well then that song was not going to work fortunately they have this other dongle that is gonna be living the dongle life that's just weird uncles everywhere the dongle world we're just living in it that's right exactly you brought you brought the point like those dolls are actually did look large fix the third-party manufacturers have come out with a couple they look kind of annoying large your point of like having a few things as possible in your pocket like having two or three extra dongles just not the greatest experience it's completely pointless I it's I I mean I understand that these you know these headphone jacks are probably going to go away at some point as well as you know things get better but the thing is like I don't think now's the time to kill it off I mean kudos to Apple for trying to be the vanguard right in this but their courageous let's salute the courage for now look at me that's Apple that's our mo they've done this in the past they kind of moved they push the industry forward and I will I do think that the others will fall we're going to lose headphone jacks everywhere so anyways for more about Apple in the iphone 7 check us out at seen it I'm Roger Cheng I'm outer ring thanks for listening and that's a cut audio recording let's go to the chat room all right questions comments I mean evil first of all I want to reiterate my passionate hatred for the dongle yes I will not be living this dongle life so I'm just curious like would it not be that annoying to just leave the dongle your headphone like leave it as the part of your headphone I will still like more and what am I going to do gaff tape it to it which i think is the only solution for me cuz i will lose it it's still the same amount of space and people lose headphones like very frequently they do yes and then consider this also you know how your headphones already get like really tangled in your pockets yeah think about that with the dango that's another not I believe see that has a how-to on how to tie up your earphones about tangler Lemire but is that does that include the dongle no that's true but i think the dongle yeah I hope because it's another are how two people need a meeting on this how to tie up the dongle without well then if you're wired well then did you see this yesterday where it was basically i think garmin or some other third-party company was selling basically a cord to tie your own i think it's a pain yeah it was a is the wire connector yeah and it's just go from chewy wireless headphones to back to and you know if only there were some kind of you know device that had a wire to to keep him together but where would we find that all right we got a question from mr. Allen he wants to know why would one need the 258 gigabyte isn't it just gonna kill your battery uh that's an interesting question i don't think storage actually kills your battery and it doesn't affect don't you're fifty six gigs of storage is it's not Ram it's not processing power it's just it's the amount of space you have to put in photos videos the reason why you'd want to 256 gig iphone which actually to me seems excessive at this point but if you're shooting a lot of 4k video in particular shooting a lot of high resolution photos that adds up right you're going to need him you need that extra space well yeah if you're considering the iphone 7 plus as you know the photographer's a phone you know you're going to be taking a lot of photos on it and it's itchy i mean considering that the iphone 7 plus or any iphone for that matter doesn't have expandable memory yeah i mean that's a big that's a big feature of it I mean it's definitely a premium like I have a 128 gig iphone 6s plus and I find that that's more than enough to meet my needs but I don't I don't take a huge amount of videos you have 128 yeah oh my god oh yeah stepped it up although now it's like the mid-tier that's the middle the road iphone which I love it but the part about is like you can at least splorch when it comes to you know how many photos do I want to take yes as opposed to us with you know 32 gays or 16 or one note 16 is the minimum swell 60 is gone now yeah so even with 32 gigs I feel like if we have to budget it yeah you serve the planetary like oh I have to make out the police of apps today cuz I'm gonna take a couple of photos that's not an experience you on your phone so that's actually kind of a perfect segue into Dante's question he says how good is the iphone 7 camera which we can demonstrate for you demonstrate thanks take a look our photographer James Martin he was able to to snap some photos on I 7 on an iphone 7 plus plus vs. an iphone 6s plus you should check out cnet we've got a nice site that shows you a side-by-side comparison scroll so you can see here for from these photos to see the quality the iphone 6s plus vs. the iphone 7 plus as far as resolution picture quality goes and here this is you know this is a low-light photos slow like additions and the seven plus definitely shines here right like you see more colors it's a bit more detailed than the success plus oh no yeah it's definitely better for low light and you know in my opinion I think that's very important considering you know you want to take a picture of your friends at a party and things unless it's a day well I know I know for you in the club you got yeah yeah yeah I don't need to use flash photography any matically and just awful never use flash but see how it performs in broad daylight it's negligible right I would say so personally yeah I honestly feel like some of the the colors on the 6s are maybe richer more vibrant to sense but that could also just be over exposure I do think it's just personal preference but it does sort of show you that in certain cases the gap between the two just visit as wide as Apple would like you to think it is in fairness say can we switch it to comparing it with the galaxy s7 that's possible sure let's do that for our android fans out there absolutely a good point so here's the iphone 7 as we had just previously looked at plus 7 plus excuse me big difference you're right it looks about the same and this is the comparison there's a pretty I don't know what do you guys think in the chat as far as like explicitly tako take a all of your your brand loyalties out of this let's look at the subject eyes I played towards the seven plus like it feel like this better color there but I don't know i'm not i definitely by no means an expert this is still a great feature I'm really glad the Jains did this this was yeah I mean it's really great just for me being the guy who pushes buttons and isn't the tech expert this actually helps me a lot as where I'm going because I've been an iphone user for some time and the headphone things kind of making me reconsider my life choices mmm so maybe i can start being a photographer instead if if that's case you should wait around Google's gonna have their deflector phone if you if you don't necessarily want to Samsung it doesn't have to be an apple samsung world I'm actually really looking forward to that pixel for the pixel thing yeah because they haven't I think right here although I gotta say that there's a blatant what we've seen it looks really ugly there's an absolutely blatant advantage to the galaxy 7 look how much crisper everything is versus the iphone nice all the glass okay hey darker darks yoga class sure and I'm glad we have these different conditions to shoot into yep this with a cloudy sky here and all that yeah great work James that was really cool so I wonder what everyone's saying in the chat Oh for those preach asking about the waterproof and to an extent he's asking if you can take it in the shower I don't know if we can really endorse that I probably wouldn't share with its why would you have your phone in the shower anyway cuz in case you need to get your Pokemon go on shower what's there I don't know no look for one look a poly world let's make it clear that this phone is not waterproof waterproof by the way the definition of waterproof is something that is completely impervious to water this is a water resistant phone resistant ip67 which means it believe it could handle being underwater one meter one meter for 30 minutes 30 minutes and weed through hours and a fish tank okay and it came out fine okay so I mean sorry about that so I would say I mean I don't think there's any risk and shower with the phone aside from the fact that that seems that could get messy especially if you factor soap and shampoo but I don't think it's going to destroy the phone I think you drop your phone in the toilet that's fine but i would go swimming with this thing yeah but you can if you are why again yeah why would you take your phone in the wall intentionally intentionally to be fair I I've got any dragazine I've gone kayaking and you know canoeing a lot where I always leave my phone behind but I always think you know I wish I were here so i could take this cool photo true true although if you went kayak I never sent that shower but if you dropped your phone while kayaking I feel like you'd probably screwed either way like if it fell down there and then I go white water condition that just well if it flows down the river like I'm gonna come baby sit down I don't it's heavy enough it's gonna sink right I would think so I would still resisting though maybe I can grab it like quickly before it's truly if you had the instincts or reflexes of a ninja you do this would you try it out we we good yes you're getting in some dangerous territory here yeah I don't well we're putting way too much emphasis on what we should not do with the phone I think that kind of goes without all right what moving on I mean well for one zaid wants to know what's a day today it's a tuesday at number 13 thanks for coming all the way to youtube to find out the day today roald dahl's birthday there you go oh yeah i had david says I have Samsung s7 edge and play pokemon in the shower sometimes that's all right it happens you can not too far off David what did you call in the shower uh-oh Pokemon wise oh come on let's make that clear yeah we actually our iPhone videos are out today all the Apple videos are up on cnet com so they want to take a loser global coverage spent the whole weekend and mr. Scott Stein Anthony by the way says please discuss the iphone not including an AMOLED screen oh good catch ya that is it that is a good comment that one of the things that Samsung and definite advantage over right now is screen quality AMOLED screen has crisper colors for blacks a higher resolution actually that's qhd i believe the than the iphone which is over lower I mean it's still good looking screen and at that size it's really hard to tell but it's good point like apple doesn't have as an embrace amyloid yet I'm going to refer to one of our cnet reviews where about the iphone 7 we're on the release date wars basically look like how many how many people actually have their iphone screen brightness all the way completely up i think that i didn't have phone is as bright as it needs to be that's true I fact I well because I'm often in a dark room like praying that my kids sleeping I have my phone's brightness all the way down to the lowest setting I wish I could go alone yeah even on my on my android phones i have a screen dimmer app just to make it even like even darker yeah oh yeah fenelon they should have some kind of LEDs going to make a go the other way but it's not just about brightness right AMOLED screens like the the screen resolutions a little bit that's a better argument yet me for sure and i'm hoping i think that the rumor is the next iphone that that they will start corporal gamma was getting the rumor mill started now yeah well you're in advance let's go jose says I believe the matte black color is a better color versus the black I agree to agree just in general bed because who would want to risk fingerprint smudges in scrabble disclosure I've already ordered by my black iphone you got in jet black or just black matte black not the jet black yeah we're same black a lot but I agree it's fingerprint we've already got scratches on our jet black test model oh really yeah i mean it's it's interesting the apple even says it on its site they've never really done that it just goes like micro brazzers will show up I'm like well that was they call Micro abrasions I know it's a it's a nice textured a fingerprint yeah no no micro operations sounds like a really bad like Ed endo just scratches out there I thought there anything right yeah you guys want to start on electronica band called microbe regions if I played any instruments I would love to do that come on everyone talented it although unfortunately it would just start to see that band we called micro brazen it's not with your micro abrasions do that or I always liked the term shaft rededges what's that jargon for champ that those are the well this is bill I think two models ago the kind of like the shiny edge polished edge of the iphone oh yeah yeah i think i have one yep spurred edges that was like for a while everyone was really obsessed about shepherd craig wants to know if anyone's tested the IE earpods yet which until I want to just say like and this is I'm going to your butts yeah an idiot because I've been calling him earbuds for the last two weeks right because apparently I really like the Disney movie about the golden retriever so yeah somebody should just go ahead and call me out on that in the chat here I think Scott's tried out there bears already a video on fact Scott was the subject of a beam he was basically on the front page of reddit is his mug with those air pods as an example of why you should be wearing ear pods uh you know their look their ugly we get that the general gist is there good headphones as far as Bluetooth wireless headphones go function wise sound sound wise so I find just as good or as mediocre as your standard airpot absolutely they're not any better right but there are a hundred seventy bucks that's nope yeah for hundreds of dollars you can get better headphones for this you should expect a better audio quality the only advantage that air pods have is that as i think w one chip the the chip that basically lets a pair with an iphone much easier I thought yes it does do that there's own pad and that's the only advantage it has over all those other bluetooth headphones are out there well they've also been touting their like microphone feature on it which right know how if it's as good as they say it it's acceptable yeah from what we found out you can see more in the video that's up on cnet yeah goes into better detail we can't really show it with sound on this but if you can check out the video you get a little bit of a demo of how that sounds and works through and there there again they're they're fine but I don't think there's anyone in this worldly things that they are the most stunning new design out there no you know cautious good question about when iOS and will come out or what else actually be stable enough for us to update mhm just a reminder iOS 10 comes out today and we believe it should be going live about half an hour if history repeats itself so on one o'clock our time ten o'clock eastern or pacific i wouldn't i wouldn't upgrade to iOS 10 now i think the last couple of times people operating early they ended up in unintentionally breaking their phone or losing connectivity I'd wait for the bugs to kind of shake out see what what issues pop up in you know in a couple days brave into new world of iOS 10 I'm anxious to see what the cutoff point is though for like bit you know people who have older model yeah yeah you know i'm still using a 5s i mean i might be prompted to jump onto my six if it's not compatible when I think it will be compatible but it's just gonna like run slower that's what I mean yeah yeah I want to shout out to old time freedom also as an audio engineer I also want a traditional headphone jack just that one out there all right and after that we're just gonna let them Duke it out in the chat for a while because I think we've pretty much said that they're all there is to be said uh end of the day both you give a one to 10 rating on our new apple endeavor I would say if you just bought an iphone last year I would say it's a five if you are up for an upgrade it's a seven or eight it's a logical upgrade if your phone's more than two years old but other than that well sure do you like me who needs to have the newest greatest all the time you should probably save your money wait until the 2017 iphone that's the one that's gonna blow you away hopefully hopefully I'm going to give it a six which was the passing grade for my high school which is better really that it passes it passes but a bit you know it doesn't stunned me or anything you know I'm not gonna put on my fridge but it passes oh my gosh all right we should wrap it up there alright awesome well if you like everything you saw or heard here checks out on cnet our podcast is also available on itunes google play music soundcloud feedburner and tune in see y'all tomorrow you