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hey it's a 3:59 podcast episode 247 on Tuesday June 27th I'm some guy and here's a couple other guys hey good morning guys okay hey I got your guy buddy sorry I'm flying blind here I didn't know I was doing the podcast until five minutes ago right so if Ben's comments sound incoherent even more incoherent really his normal yeah stinks so I was at a Facebook holiday retail event yes they talk about holiday in June like we're talking about I was I would say Chris we've got a holiday coming up I would no no no I mean holiday as in fourth quarter or holiday well they seized it by stuff and put it under whatever tree you want to call it I don't know some people celebrate this thing called Christmas not me okay all right let's get back to the topic I wouldn't tell we're supposed to be talking about Super Nintendo we're talking about the Super NES classic we'll also be discussing the release of the public beta of iOS 11 and the biggest fine that the EU has ever loveed on a company and it's on Google Google so we'll talk about that if you have any questions on a these topics live in the comments section Brian will pick out the best and we'll get to them and get to them in three minutes to 59 seconds from 3 to welcome to the 359 I'm Roger Cheng I'm Ben Fox ribbon Nintendo dropped the ball on us and unveiled a much-anticipated Super NES classic it will be released on September 29th for $80 and comes with 21 games including the previously unreleased star fox 2 I totally want one but given how rare the Nintendo class and yes classic was I could feel like I'm probably not gonna get one I don't know I'm gonna have to like punch somebody to get one yeah but so I mean it's a great lineup I mean I think very few people would complain about the lineup of games that are available here gray one starfox obviously Mario card Street Fighter all those things I'm really excited about Star Fox 2 because it didn't actually yes I'm out yeah that's that's sort of the big surprise but we're just in sort of what what we're looking what's missing what what do we want to see from the Super NES closet okay admittedly I don't think I had an SNES lame yeah I think I switched over to second Genesis okay well I had you know I was I was pretty hardcore into toejam and Earl okay whatever other awesome games were on the Genesis at that time yeah I don't know it for me a couple games missing from the list was Chrono Trigger I was really hoping to get that a final fight game Earthworm Jim some of those games classics I spent so much time playing I mean obviously Nintendo can't cram every game in there so what I'm hoping what I'm wishing for is that this thing has some way to pour it in new games either downloading a SD card or something yeah my hope is is that it's also not another limited edition one-off it's obviously wait wait that they came out with another one everybody was hoping that would happen does feel like that's what they're doing like if you look at their comments they're not talking about whether or not they're gonna sell this thing after the year they did say that half they'd have more of a supply but again they're kind of telegraphic that this is kind of limited time affair which is weird right people want to buy them let them buy them I just disagree with the notion but I'm not intend oh so I don't know all right next up the public beta of iOS 11 is out you can edit live photos methyl mess with the one page control center and record your screen but remember the final version comes out the fall and you're sort of taking risk by you know accessing or downloading this public beta is that do you have Mesirow these no no wasn't there like one time where bricked a bunch of people's phones with like a previous iOS no don't know that were like an updated that was actually a final version that was the final actually but people so after that happened I know it's seen it this was this was new to me when I joined see net was that you know new versions or new updates of iOS would come out and everybody would jump up and down like they're so excited they're they they have to download it immediately but generally I like to wait at least a week or two and especially after the breaking that seemed to make sense right now that was again that was the final version this is just the beta so there are bound to be glitches I mean we recommend if you're gonna do this you don't do this on your primary phone if you've got like a spare device spare iPad or whatever you you load iOS 11 out of that so lastly the EU just slap Google with a 2.7 billion dollar fine for manipulating search results so its own shoppings results would come up over tribals it's the biggest fine that the EU has ever levied upon a single company but realistically 2.7 billion dollars come and drop in the bucket for Google it is a drop in the bucket for Google but it is definitely a big deal I think to me it sounded like some folks are waiting for more shoes to drop on this one where ya the EU could find Google for even more for other types Android apps search results there are multiple investigations going on yeah and so if they're so dominant in that market that the EU obviously at least is arguing that they have they have a credible argument to keep you know shaking them down for more money exactly alright for more of these stories check us out I'll see that Roger chant I'm Ben Fox Ruben thanks for listening so go ahead and submit your wish list for the Super NES classic I'm with you Roger I'm on tour from Jim yeah that was a great game such a hard game it was a really hard what we're at it let's get both of them oh yeah which was a solid sequel yep everything about the soundtrack the graphics got better there was increased gameplay and action options mm-hmm man those were good I never had a Super Nintendo growing out to Joo I did yeah yeah yeah yes I had the Genesis as a hand-me-down from my cousins and I had the Super NES I switched over to Super NES cuz Street Fighter came out that sort of like was the game changer I like but Genesis had way better version of Mortal Kombat yeah the controls are a little wonky er the the controller only had three buns of the Genesis which kind of like made playing fighting games tough if you if you remember like Street Fighter you need six buttons right so wait did you not play Street Fighter as a kid delete some Street fight over this is really like diving into the recesses gaming well so basically what there was like there's kicking and punching but there's three levels each alright and so the Jesse we had three buns the Super Nintendo did have set remember in the arcade they would have the six buck right so with the Super NES you have the shoulder buttons plus four buttons on the side so you could actually do it with Genesis I think you had to like hit the start button to switch from like kick to punch or something I feel better with how how you actually played tree fighter on the Genesis but it was because you couldn't do all three bugs or all three all six buttons right unless you got one of those turbo controllers right well you have to buy the controller which I did not yeah remember those never like total is really wonky tip which made playing Genesis games a little bit tough the bun would respond let me ask you this um do do you think people don't really switch between Microsoft and Sony that much anymore like you know you're basically a playstation or an Xbox person these days because the console wars all over and I was growing up I was a Genesis did what a Nintendo kid but I had a neighbor who had Super Nintendo it was a weird strategy between my neighborhood friends and I we all had different consoles all right one kid had a super eye on Genesis the kids are on the corner had a Playstation so we had like all the bases covered there for a while I mean like because I went from Atari to NES to Genesis at some point I had a Gamecube you you I personally really like jumped between a bunch of them I know a lot of people that like to game a lot so they usually just get both you know like you get the Xbox and the PlayStation but yeah I feel like I've actually chosen your teammate yeah I've been a Xbox gamer since the beginning I never want to play and like most of my friends were all PlayStation users yeah yeah yeah I bought your Xbox 360 I played it for a year and I was just like what is this this isn't this isn't gaming so what you're saying you're not the demographic here right it was just nobody he got he got a Playstation I got him play I got a ps4 just realize he's not he's not an Xbox guy he's a PlayStation PlayStation guy it's fine I wasn't used to the controller the controller like kind of felt like it needed a diet I don't know it was too chunky it's funny cuz I think that controller is like for me the optimal control like I think the PlayStation 1 is way me one it's way too small too few say so I don't know triggers are potato and taro my friend but yo from Venus you brought but you brought up this point though earlier that like we've got this sort of resurrection of Super Nintendo and Genesis with the flashback Genesis console also available coming this year we've got this kind of slight revival the return of the console war that part do yep I would be really interested to see if there's any kind of correlation between like kids who grew up Sega Genesis there's a Super Nintendo the Loyalists like the flashbacks if they stay that way or if they find that opportunity to kind of flip or more importantly if there is some correlation between I grew up on Sega now I like Microsoft I grew up on intend to now like Sony if there's any kind of weird yeah but yeah if I had to say like I would be I guess I would call myself a Nintendo fan and then I migrated to Microsoft so wonder if I started with regulars Nintendo Entertainment System yeah and then I got a game that we all did got a Sega Genesis and then graduated to a Nintendo 64 stuck with Nintendo for a minute went to GameCube and then eventually landed on an Xbox 360 and that's kind of where I slowed down I haven't bought a console since then sorry everybody but the cream of the crop for me was when I got that Sega Dreamcast that was and that's the one I Will Survive throughout if the rest of them burned in a fire I'll go back into that house fire to save your dream past Wow yeah and then Dreamcast anything oh I like Sega just the Dreamcast itself I like the Dreamcast yeah I mean I didn't have one my friend I had it some of my time I played like the 2k NBA games I just jumped back into playing Shenmue 2 as you imagined a couple of times of this podcast I need help if anybody out there in the chat can help me I am really suck looking for the well in his shoe book anyone can help me let's let's get back to the topic what else what else would you want to see in this Super NES Henry Chan in the chat says Chrono Trigger yes so far from alone on that one yeah yeah that was for me sort of like the number one missing game and yeah this is a great lineup like I feel like they really kind of knocked out of the park because the NES classic of games there was some hidden this ones it wasn't all great these are all pretty solid games I mean though these are all sort of like I'm just kind of some of these you could argue are like the best games of all time I'm just kind of surprised a Secret of Mana beat out Chrono Trigger yeah Oh secret to what our final fan I'm sorry Final Fantasy 4 technical I think that is final thoughts before it says 3d but I think it's no no 4 equals to 2 so which one is this 3 equals 5 I forget now it's a weird that weird like I was just watching the scene I was reading yeah like this is a good one though Final Fantasy 3 it is a good one it is a good one but I'm still like Chrono Trigger like that's legendary yeah Danny Green in the chat sets up Danny Green I grew up with black-and-white TV with 3 channels we played real board games back then lol oh wow project files it up you grew up in the dark ages blue in be nice wallet and white TV screen blast in the chat is still angry about no wireless controllers I know you're gonna go straight-up nostalgia bomb you got to get a tire you got to trip over some chords you know those original NES classic horns were like obscenely short I mean this this is two feet longer which is still shorter than the original ones like you shouldn't go with nostalgia you go with nostalgia the wired control look like house like like TVs aren't set up that way you don't sit 4 feet from your TV you're right what you did when we were that age yeah that is up a beam but our TVs aren't like that hey bored they're gigantic you know sit three feet in front of one true there's technically less risk and sitting in front of an LCD than there is a miraculous um extension by damage-wise yeah yeah and that's it we were talking before about the peripherals and if they're going to develop wireless controllers or cable extenders and after a knee has pulled the plug so quick on the original classic I got to thinking like the smart thing would be a third-party developer not to specifically develop for a given system but to develop a Bluetooth hub with universal adapters right right so you could like when you travel overseas and you get a different outlet and you have to rotate your power yeah cycle yeah do something like that with different plugin caps so you can convert it to Sega convert it to Nintendo Super Nintendo yeah Universal inputs for all those yeah there were a lot of third-party makers who just basically got screwed over wend and kind of decide to pull that Danny it's classic although there's a huge stock of these wireless controllers on the market like also no one needed them yeah yeah it was too bad about that yeah so it makes me wonder if these guys are gonna come back and like make accessories for this super nice thing especially knowing that Nintendo is sort of telegraphing that this is a limited-time affair Matthew Cox says do we think it will be another linux box that will accept a ton of games not by the sounds of it wasn't the NES classic like that or yeah but you had no way to actually put anything into unless you took it apart you had to hack and you had to hack it a smart person can hack just about anything you could do you will be able to do with the Super NES you just have to have the proper picnic 'old know how yeah it's not for everyone it's not gonna be ingrained in it right user friendly per se and on that note nitro is requesting us sometime in the near future to cover the Raspberry Pi oh yeah I mean we actually have a how-to out there how to build your own console with the Raspberry Pi dan Graziano danny Graziano did it it's a little I think it's a little outdated cuz actually it's it's even easier now to do it I think it's just a matter of like now you just load the roms in you're like good to go but yeah we should do one a Raspberry Pi soon so here's some kid in the chat named Alfred oh really looks like he's about 12 or so yeah he's complaining about chrono trigger but like he wasn't even born with chrono trigger water oh yeah we can't he hasn't disclosed his age we could just sort of tell by the way he's writing in all caps that he's guide me like five years old all right let's talk a little bit about iOS before we wrap it up for the day blue in projects so like will snapchat make it so you can screen record snaps anymore once iOS 11 is publicly that's the thought cuz you can't record oh yeah iTunes movies on there they disabled out how they'd work against other video type oh that's a great question it's a great question yeah I feel like it'd be smart for them to try to disable that because I could get into danger zone especially with snapchat because of just general consumer expectations yep I'm curious is that has anyone has any of our readers or viewers actually downloaded iOS 11 just like I usually don't I kind of rely on experts like Scott to to download it on their like their test iPads yeah not only that but like I I feel like I don't have multiple yeah what's at home I just got the one I feel like the improvements are especially for the iPad right it's yeah by all major and drag and drop and stuff like that like actually make it a more you know more of a more user yeah more usable computer fun still not there yet I would agree I would say it is still not like I know Apple wants to push this thing as a almost full fledged semi full-fledged right Peter but if you're an iPhone if you're an iPhone user is there like this one killer thing that you've been dying to get but you know that iOS 11 includes probably not it's probably oh there's a lot of improvements that are like nice to have mm-hmm one more from Danny Green before we wrap it up for the day let's move on to Google he says I'm guessing somebody paid Google to bump them up on the shopping list question is did they make enough to cover the fine conspiracy theory well no I think the the issue is that they actually put their own shopping services upfront so they were they were profiting off of you know the these manipulative search results personally it was I don't think anyone pushing yeah like the whole idea of paying Google to have like proper or higher placement that's their whole business model that's not illegal that that's just but they have it sort of does it in a section right that's basically like paid placement right kind of the standard business model I mean what the EU argument is that they basically just moved for real actual search results or organic search organic search results Google's results would put surface above the triangle which was the primary fear that everybody had about Google yeah anyway and you know here's the proof that yes it has happened and yeah because it what you see in the Internet there a ton of money but at the same time like it's like we said it's not a huge amount for Google just yeah in terms of reference it generated about ninety billion dollars last year in profit no revenue in revenue yeah okay I mean still healthy profit but ninety billion revenue yeah alright we're just about out of time for the day but I want to pitch out some food for thought we're not gonna answer this right here on this episode but start thinking about this you guys are fighting against me on this it's probably not a secret that the Nintendo will likely move on and do a Nintendo 64 in the realm of classic nostalgia mini boxes maybe yeah and then they'll probably shut that down too I think and this is a very personal theory I have no grounds to back this up that if they were smart they would continue this trend they do a Gamecube and then ultimately once they've pulled these all off the shelves and lift everybody blue-balled that they'll put out an all in one box wait would you what they do a Wii as well I think the Wii is to contemporary personally okay but at some point an all-in-one box because I mean they've got the Virtual Console but I would love to see that if I knew that was coming down the line I would hold out and I would buy that all in one box so I get the Nintendo super 64 GameCube all in the same box that should be I want to teach you how to make like a Raspberry Pi cons no I want to present a slightly different theory my theory is that they probably ended with super enhance maybe a Nintendo 64 classic but they they stop it there they basically stoked all of our interest in the stall in these old games got our whole nostalgia thing going and then they basically shut it all down and basically and then forced you to if you want these games to buy the switch or buy whatever future console they make so you can access these games you can hang let's access those game but you can't manage you can't yeah you can't now and so but making it sort of the sole place like if you want all these awesome games from your childhood gotta buy switch you know it would be great to is all the Super NES classics and the NES classics when they do shut them down they make the ones that you purchase stop working oh my god you really have to but that's just evil you see there's Satan wow that's a CEO material right there now I know that's a promoted food-for-thought everybody just think about what Nintendo's next steps are gonna be what competitors next steps are gonna be especially now the Sega's putting out massive collections of classic games on yeah mobile at the smartest thing Sega's done in a while I legitimately think that kind of gives Nintendo or run for their money as far as the audience reach try to place like some of the games like Sonic what's kind of hard to play on the phone I'm just ticked that that's once again online only oh yeah because they all the ads yeah I'll Glen up a paid for the damn ads the money I paid for the damn app and it's still even without the ads that's dumb I hate that that makes me so angry but I will give it to them Crazy Taxi controls and nominally oh yeah yeah I highly recommend Ebonics really tough to play on my phone it is because already that game is suffering from big sprite small screen yeah and when you're trying to like get down into smaller screen it and your thumbs are clogging up some of that air exactly it is tricky yeah it but it's always been that way all the way back to the original Christian Whitehead ports that's that's my two cents on it but anyway it's it's a glorious age for nostalgia indeed it is alright let's wrap it up there if you liked anything you saw or heard here check us out on seen it our podcast is also available in iTunes tune in stitcher SoundCloud Feedburner and Google Play Music see y'all tomorrow but bye you