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good morning and welcome to Tuesday September 20th time for another edition of the 359 podcast cnet's official unofficial morning show featuring Roger Cheng and Alfred a good morning guys good morning good morning happy tuesday everyone we've got a lot to talk about packed show will be talking first google finally confirmed their October fourth event we're expecting a a new phone as well as more details on Google home we'll also be talking about comcast confirming that next year it'll launch a wireless service they tried this before didn't work so well we'll see if they actually get it right this time lastly a story The Alfred wrote about the London Mayor in town to drum up support to reassure people that that brexit isn't gonna have an effect on on tech the tech world attack hub that is London right nipple pain pay no attention to this a giant gaping hole we have from our plans there you go so as always if you have any questions leave them in the comments section or producer Brian will pick out the best that we will try to do our best to answer them all whatever you ready let's start recording and in three two welcome to the three tonight when we talk about the top tech news of the day I'll get the crap we want to throw it I'm dr. Chang I'm Alfred Inge so Google has confirmed October fourth as its next big event we're all expecting to see the debut of the rumor pixel phone the first time it'll actually go away from the Nexus franchise which has really been with Android it's almost the beginning so Alfred what do you think that what is your idea of the perfect google phone what do you want to see in this phone um I'd really like to see this phone you know be affordable seeing that it's the spiritual successor of the Nexus line which you know was touted on being affordable from what I've heard though this is uh not going to be at the same price yeah I mean I think they've been trying to get away from the idea of a google or Nexus phone as a low-cost device because of the association at low cost well good value is it's not quite on par with the super phones that that is the Samsung devices or the Apple devices so and it's looking a lot like these pics phones will be more definite more flagship level devices it's disappointing because you know I do believe that you can be affordable and write a flagship device but I guess no I think they had a hit on their hands with the nexus for the nexus 5 these were phones that were both solid LG made them very affordable especially if you weren't looking to sign up for a contract but they hit at the right time because people were starting to understand that they're spending way too much fun on the way too much money on contracts that these phones were an affordable option so I don't know what what are some of the other features you want to see I'm really hoping that the pixel does have kind of a connectivity feature two laptops right where it can be docked to it you know with Chromebooks being able to I mean not being able to but just moving toward more android apps yep I'm hoping you know the the pixel will allow me to plug it into a laptop of some source and just run it on that instead windows phones do that now some of them Ellie is the higher end ones but of course no one cares cuz ya don't buy them so moving on comcast comcast CEO Brian Roberts confirmed today that starting sometime in the middle of next year that it will launch a wireless service it hasn't agreed with verizon so we'll be using verizon's network but it'll also augment the service with the span of local Wi-Fi networks in its market so I don't know comcast has tried this before hasn't worked so well what do you think he interested I have no doubts and Comcast ability to you know connect people I think it's more so there they've got a really bad reputation as far as customer service Koecher I mean this is we're talking about a company here that you know it has its own Wikipedia article for criticisms not not a section an entire article dedicated to just you know how it's the criticisms against comcast yeah look it's a it's tough I mean they've done this before the the cable companies have tried a couple times to launch their own wireless service or you say sprint's network for the wireless service it's never worked for whatever reason it seems like logically would make sense you do a quotable playwright home home connection phone internet TV and wireless but it's never really really never came together lastly you order story brexit yeah um well the mayor of london sadik-khan came to New York City yesterday to you know basically tell us investors hey don't worry about brexit there's nothing wrong with this which so far he's been right about you know there's been getting the same amount of investors same amount of money same amount of tech companies Lauren is still the best city for you know tech startups to grow in or now or now because Briggs exits effects have not even have not taken place right they actually had any enacted any of the process of place to break away from the zone so it know it seems like he's kind of scrambling right now to you know get all these investors and until hey look there's nothing to worry about before you know its impact actually happens yeah we'll see Brett's it's gonna take a little while for more about these stories check us out on cnet I'm Roger Cheng I'm a pro ding thanks for listening and that's a cut on the podcast recording all right first and foremost ghulam thank you for your interest we aren't gamers the max come free from work if they gave us the choice it would be a different story but yeah we worked CBS i would actually i don't know for some of us it might be a story well yeah we ever had a choice everyone always is like why you guys use Mackle time cuz CBS gives it to us for free it gets everybody in the floor for free and it's not a cause and it's not by the way it's not because Apple gives them to us we just buy art as a company we supply max we use max oh yeah yeah and be honest we could probably all benefit from something a little more powerful on a desktop but we're floating around with these airs and they don't cost us a dime so yeah yeah I wouldn't mind using a surface actually at least on the road not not in the office maybe they give them to us to prevent us from putting games on then that it's probably that's a really good point yeah I mean productivity is already pretty low on the scene at office I wouldn't brag about that right I really would brag about that come on I'm kidding I'm kidding a little bit so what any questions or comments particular I mean like the Google is coming up the pixel phone is I'm sure starting up some interest we definitely have pixel anticipation we have some nougat fans oh yeah yeah yeah um and we have a bunch of Apple haters go figure sure I'm kind of interested in the new google phone although i kind of hate that that twitter add that they rolled because it's so avant-garde and vague and uh hashtag game of phones yeah yeah well yeah thing i try to do some different i guess i don't i don't know whatever yeah it is what it is but I mean it could be really fun like I'm a heavy google user yeah I am too as is the rest of the internet and the rest of this office is very true very google shop I mean it's cliche to say but at this point I am very disheartened by the forthcoming iphone headphone non jets yeah yeah coming it's out but yeah this might this might steal me away yeah but me if your look if you're a viewer are you is a google phone attractive enough that it might lure you away from from your iphone love especially now after headphone jack gate and is that is that a gate i don't know i don't think it's a gate yet but yeah I mean I had a nexus 5 4 3 years I bought it like the moment it came out because of how affordable it rise yeah yeah now that's I mean I agree that's the most disappointing part is that this isn't going to be an affordable phone they tried that last year with the the Nexus 6p right that was bad completely stuff that to the end the year before it was the Nexus 6 i believe that was Motorola's phone it was like it was a good jumbo phone and that one did not well did not deal well because they priced it at a higher level they try to sell through the carrier's which kind of went against what Nexus has done since from day one really so uh here's a question yeah I'm really a question but more of a wish list somebody wants a physical keyboard again it looks like which isn't interesting very makes a phone I I library makes an android phone but would Google consider something like that also well read there's no like market demand the market is so so nice I mean there there is market demand but it's just like it's five people yeah I was one of those for a while to I I just did not want to make the switch because it's so easy to type yeah I know it took me a while to switch over to a full touchscreen and even when I had iPhone or Android device I kind of missed having a full keyboard i used to write whole story on my phone i mean i can still kind of do that but it's a lot tougher now I just enjoyed being in what a text while walking because I yeah it was great although now I know folks your age who are actually able to do that sort of blind typing on their screen I don't know how that even works but physically they kind of know the placement of the finger on the screen to get the right letter you'll get there eventually grandpa Roger uh I don't know how probable see now before that athletes what about what if google follow suit and that the headphone jack starts going away and other models aren't Apple I I would I think that's gonna be a distinct possibility and I think USBC Intel's already touted that that poor as a alternative to the headphone jack and the reality is a lot of these companies want to get their phones thinner want to pack in more for their phones whether it's battery whether it's wireless charging features whatever it is and that headphone jack is takes a bit of extra real estate and can be removed so sorry break to you guys but I think that's that's sort of the future of where these phones are going and in related news that would be a high we got repeat people in the chat room wishing for better battery life in general which I think most mobile phones at this point can benefit from absolutely um as long as they're not exploded but yeah no no that's that's not exactly better but that really no it's not let me that's the thing was the note said it was was it was floating because the battery was really good though no no well arguably they crammed in a bigger battery into the phone and the act of cramming it in might have triggered the the actual friction that was setting off the explosion I don't know I'm just I'm just speculating but yeah I would agree a bigger battery or a bigger battery longer battery life definitely are key for front a new phone I mean you saw with Apple they they try to spin it with their processor plus the bigger battery I still think they could have done more with that but that's just me and as far as the a headphone jacks go if they are removing it for us bc on the pixel yeah all I can ask is just just put two ports so people can you know essentially listen to music and charge at the same time that's yeah a big concern you don't have a dongle that splits it into two things it just put two ports that you see it on laptops all the time yep I don't see why and you know that you can't argue oh it's a space issue of that because the rest of is just dead space on right that's physically I'm either physically smaller you can easily pack in 203 just go riolu don't go crazy there cool it yeah man let's speculate on pricing Oh as a bold statement I know yeah yeah let's go let's go crazy let's just start throwing out numbers price is right a million no I would say right around the 650 700 mark that's sort of the the sweet spot for flagship phones the iphone 7 starts at 650 yeah Samsung's are around the same price the note 7 was like I think it started like 800 900 dollars so you know there's there's a wiggle room there especially if it's a premium device right yeah do you think Google might try to beat the curve because somebody is saying in the chat somewhere in the 400 to 500 dollar range I mean that brings it back to that Nexus range i think the original nexus for five or four hundred dollars Mike I know Nexus 5 I i bought mine for around like 250 okay all right so maybe it's a little too high price of that but I feel like that is the territory of like mid-range phones like you can get a decent $400 phone now and I don't know if Google wants to be in that pack I think they want to be they want to elevate this phone to something that's slightly better than your standard ZTE or like alcatel mid to your phone sorry guys yeah Tala says pixel laptops were expensive so they're speculating yeah phone will probably follow so yeah and the pixel laptop or a Chromebook was really felt like it was more like a concept than anything like you could buy it but it was crazy expensive and I don't know if anyone actually really purchase that thing right like we're just sort of like here's what we could do with this super-awesome screen and you know all the bells and whistles for a Chromebook but it wasn't really that much better than a standard Chromebook which costs what 150-200 dollars no no so here's our standing wish list for this google phone no hiss yes no explosions and go Jack the bar is very low right a standard headphone jack some kind of water resistance and moderate price yeah that's what we got don't think it's gonna hit all those I think you'll get maybe three out of five waterproof and water resistance it's kind of like the standard now it's kind of a i mention i mean it is it seems like a standard but there are a lot of phones out there that still don't have it right like a lot of high-end phones yeah like LG still doesn't do it I mean I think Sony Samsung and Apple now are the only three that but yeah I think it's starting to become like the standard of it you know I would hope it is it becomes a standard I just don't I'm not sure if it is yet or if the industry has got in their mindset that it should be you know that it's it's a perk as opposed to a standard so i'll say what about carrier deals that's the big controversy right like willwill next to sorb sorry will this pixel phone be sold through carriers will be sold through google's website through google play which is sort of the the standard model for nexus you know a few times they've tried to sell these things through the carrier's they failed mm-hmm I blues Nexus 6 the original nexus one I think so too carried as well there's a mix and it just I didn't do well right so I don't know that's the best I know that was a big selling point for the nexus 5 that you didn't have to do a whole carrier deal with it and I'm locked for anybody so but the the rub their it's this dilemma that they have it yeah it's really attractive if you want to sell unlocked through google play but that's vast vast majority of people by their phones to carriers and that's prom right like if you don't go through that channel you're not going to sell a lot of phones regardless like the next four or five did relatively well but that they weren't selling as well as like an iphone did because they didn't have the carrier channel who in the chat were curious how did you get your mobile phone assuming you have a mobile phone I don't know maybe many people who don't at this point but did you get it through carrier did you buy stand alone as you get a second hand light it up in the chat tell us also on the other topic would anyone want to sign up for a comcast wireless service no really old absence nope no all right well know that heads that conversational so much hate for comcast there I have you used them no cuz they're not market that's i don't i'm not the wireless in general have you experienced that company know this i've never been in an area where i was off yeah I feel like comcast has only been you know successful because it's you know this is the only cable network in your area to do it all well that's really sorry for all the cable company yeah but why they're all saying that's why I don't think it'll transfer translate over to a mobile network because you know there's so many other options where I know why would I ever sign up for this company that gets all these negative well if if you're in the comcast territory I mean they can offer you theoretically a bundle of services if you're already a comcast video and internet subscriber tack on this wireless service for like 40 bucks extra or something like that that to me kind of makes sense if you're if you're a Comcast if you're an existing comcast subscriber not I don't think they're winning over anyone new they're not gonna be like I'm not gonna switch from t-mobile or sprint to comcast for whatever reason but if I'm already a customer maybe I would consider it if they gave me a break I don't know we got a lot of people in the chat who do get their phones through the carrier trade ins etc yep Austin is actually a user of comcast xfinity and has nothing but nice things to say about it yeah actually let's try to be optimistic i have not had the best experience okay i used it I've never used it either but I know Maggie Maggie Reardon are FCC reporter as well as covering issues of cable she actually had a lot of complimentary thing to say about the x1 platform and she noted that like relative to other cable companies it's actually pretty innovative I mean that's a low bar you're clear there but like you know if you're a Time Warner Cable customer you're probably less happy than you are as a comcast customer like I I have had time for games I am NOT a big fan I'm I'm like barely home so I pretty much Scott like the bare minimum that's what I had when I was in my 22 I have a 50-50 down package with verizon now because all I do is stay home and right there's probably a good point to cut it off yeah we got to move on you gotta move on thanks everyone if you liked or if you like anything you 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