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show for you when I'm talking about this wacky patent that LG just filed for 16 cameras on the back of your phone cuz sure yeah they're all on the back what if the entire back is just one big like that's what Joe was asking for before like just the entire covered in cans like it's like spider eyes yes it's creepy - did they blink as well we'll talk about that we talked about Elan musk and his prognosis for actually getting to Mars and and you know we'll look at some of the cyber monday coverage that's out there I'm sure you're all on your computer's shopping your phones shopping I don't know what are you shop I don't okay as always if you have any questions leave in the comment section Brian's book of the best I'll get them in 3 minutes and 59 seconds from 3 to welcome to the 359 I'm Roger Chang I'm Afra dang remember when it was enough to have a single camera on your phone well those days are long gone Apple kicked off the two ends trend Huawei and LG added three lenses to a phone this year Samsung's supposed to add six to the Galaxy S ten next year but LG has something even more extreme sixteen lenses look at this configuration Wow what do you think it looks like Swiss cheese on the back of your phone 16 cameras right that's gotta be like at least eight times better than the iPhone I don't know if that's how the math works but I mean I look at it and I just think you know how like we've always talked about how there's a lack of innovation in phone like yes like forms like you know it's been this kind of like square screen for a really long time and then I love that all these phone makers are basically just saying you know what would we could do to shake things up sixteen cameras it's just adding more and more cameras until the whole thing it's a Rubik's Cube where each block is just a camera well we did have Samsung did show off actually our is selling a phone with four camera lenses in the back so it's not implausible than that these camera makers are just trying to add more Monza's this isn't interesting it's a four by four grid configuration it's it's kind of done in a circular formation so I guess it would be better for 3d imagery yeah I wonder what like each lens would be doing so with dual lenses you know one is to capture the background and one the foreground so for a better bouquet effect I'm very curious like so is this like once for specifically like lighting one is for specifically like the matter no I think it's it's to take sort of these multi perspective photos and where you can change the angle maybe move it around in come in a 3d kind of effect way I don't know it's weird it's crazy but you know what an industry that is kind of lacking in innovation six maybe sixteen cameras is it yeah speaking of weird and crazy Elon Musk today basically mentioned that he there's a 70% chance that home moved to MA and a little bit weird and crazy setting on Axios on HBO on Sunday night yep I mean we know about SpaceX we know about their whole like space exploration mission I mean II lost Elon Musk on Mars I mean good he should go to Mars me as long as Twitter's not on Mars I think that'd be good for him I mean I don't know how the Tesla's there would work or SolarCity I don't know how much sunlight Mars gets I don't know much about space well he was talking but I started referencing the progress that SpaceX has been making on you know rocket technology and actually getting people to Mars been a long-term goal of his for a while he has this starship I guess was formerly known as the bf are not been Fox ribbon but apparently it's gonna cost a couple hundred thousand dollars to snag a seat there either way just kind of weird I mean what's the percentage that you would move to Mars pretty much zero oh okay hold zero I mean pretty sure that's the case yeah okay I mean unless I'm sort of like zombie apocalypse it's earth right there's not real reason to move to Mars yeah you got a good place here the real estate is looking very charming on the left side of Mars well there you go I mean you know what the way real estate prices are going maybe Mars yeah be the way to go all right lastly please check out our site for all of the many many cyber monday deals they're out there we've just got wall-to-wall coverage on so investing out there David Katz my in particular has a great feature on some of the best TVs we've got some deals on Nintendo switch bundles controllers did you get anything know what Fridays I did not I looked at stuff but I've been following the rule that if I was not looking for it originally I'm not really saving money that's a good rule to have a guy I caught on to Red Dead Redemption two of cut a deal with then I mean if you were looking for that and I was you know if so yeah that makes sense but yes check out our site that's all for now for all this coverage check us on Sina router Chang I'm alpha ring thanks for listening Roger forgot how to close the show yeah what what are we doing here what like two hours of sleep right I think it is hot mental processors like don't speak in Japanese don't say all right but anyways it's it's time for folks to go ahead and send in comments and questions about these stories at hand for one thing moving to Mars it's got to be cheaper than San Francisco yeah Adil in New York I'm just gonna put that out there you know okay you're right saddles pretty expensive too yeah never mind never mind you're right can I also just say one thing like with every celebrity and and there's social media habits you can say what you want about Trump and whoever like that I think this comment firmly seats Elon Musk as like that douchebag hipster cousin that you just want to shut up well yeah to be fair he didn't say this on Twitter though he did say this documentary reporters yeah this wasn't like a random rant like well I guess it wasn't right a brat but it wasn't like on Twitter and I think your hipster cousin is usually a guy that doesn't have the resources or means to actually get to Mars where everyone must like I mean there's charging people to go there's definitely a more realistic chance of Elon Musk on Mars than your your standard hipster cousin that's a good point I'll give me that much he could actually technically pull it off but it was still just like you just have to roll your eyes like I get it yeah somebody says I do kind of wander just like you shut up like no one care alright folks keep sitting in your comments and questions let's go ahead and delve into the chat and take a few here's some suggestions on what you can do with 16 cameras on your phone Hunter Lee 16 pictures of your food Gabriel Keaton throw your phone in the air and take a picture of the entire room before you catch it kind of like that idea that really doesn't seem that far off from what they're kind of going for with like the 3d imaging thing you like you just throw it in the air and it scans your surroundings and suddenly you're in like a VR situation or something is that is that what I mean you you'd probably have a better idea of what they'd want to do with 16 cameras than and we would I'm looking forward to the day where cameras on phones get so good that like they pick up all our flaws also where's like hey look at that look how clear that blemish is on someone's face it's very much like a Twilight Zone kind of thing where it's like our cameras got so good that we can finally see you like how bad we look so thank you for the 60 like cameras already captured yeah terrible I look on a daily basis like right now there's a there's a specific one out of the 16 cameras just to pick up yes I mean that's what some of the comments are talking about in the chat though is like the uncanny valley situation if the cameras get that good oh yeah yeah yeah I'm always creeped out by that yes I don't know I'm both creeped out by it and excited for that uncanny valley of there's one year the imagery there's one camera that picks up all your flaws and then another camera that you have to pay extra to unlock to like get rid of it so my thought was though would they actually have all the camera lenses visible because that was an ugly presentation I think that was just like a mock-up I mean this is a pen thing so of course this isn't gonna be very rudimentary I don't like it might not even be real like if it's a patent filing it's probably a concept that yeah I'm gonna they want to kind of copyright before anyone else gets ahold of it but yeah and a lot of these companies do this defensively so let's you know take it with a grain of salt Apple does this all the time they filed pans for stuff that they they don't pursue anyways they just do it as sort of a defensive measure just so they can say hey we were here first with this technology yeah but I'm just saying like wouldn't they do a better job of kind of masking them to an extent for from a design perspective or alternatively who in the chat was talking about it Oh Timothy he was saying like would they put lenses on different sides and like the corners or front back kind of all over is it just gonna be a giant panel istic Dean it looks like a giant panel of 16 like a 4x4 grid right so it's it'd be hard to kind of position I think the point of the lenses in that whatever a 3d virtual effect they're trying to achieve can only be done by this 4 by 4 grid which would yeah become ugly having Emma back your phone but okay but once Samsung like comes out with the foldable phones we're good more surface area there's gonna be like 32 cameras on the back of that like it we did it alright more questions from the chat also from Timothy cameras 1 2 3 4 and now 16 should Google be patting themselves on the back which is one single camera and the quality is still top-notch I think to an extent yes they should yeah I'd say so yeah it's pretty impressive that they're able to pack it all into one I mean I would say like I don't know if the bouquet effect is as reliable as you know it's a double lens format because it's it's using yeah to kind of fake it a little bit but it's impressive I don't get all yeah yeah I would also argue that bouquet effect is kind of overrated where I think you used to see it a lot like being taken by DSLRs and you feel like oh wow that's like a really good camera and then when you see it like everywhere though from like normal like iPhones it's like ok I've seen this like it's definitely from the unique yeah it's it's a simple subjective art style at this point like it'll kind of get out of the honeymoon phase sooner or later all right next question if 16 cameras are added something's got to give what about a smaller battery do you think they're gonna start cutting corners on other essential features to squeeze these cameras in I mean let's keep in mind that this probably won't show up for a while if if ever so I would hope and maybe I'm just being overly optimistic that they would figure out the battery technology by the time this thing get set up okay I know being and be naive we have a couple of up top equestions shall we go ahead and jump down that these are my favorite questions do it well they're they're they're not that exciting either and MJ's asking if the iPhone 10 reproduction is opening and if so how much will the new price be I saw reports on that yeah I mean it's hard to confirm I would assume that the price would be the same though just from Apple's perspective of you know we know that people will pay this much for our product like we'll just keep it at that price yeah I just I guess I'm a little skeptical about those reports given that they sort of have their pricing model down maybe I mean if the iPhone 10 are or the sales really start tanking maybe comes out I mean I was just thinking actually the other day that like I kind of wish the iPhone 10 was around so I could that would be like the phone I would probably get for my parents assuming it was cheaper though assuming it was $100 cheaper than before but I don't know I mean it feels like they've got their lineup set and it would really have to take one of these or multiple products tanking for them to get the iPhone 10 back into action next question is coming in from Kishori when is the first 5g phone expected to hit the streets we've talked about this time and time again my favorite topic my least yes I know I know you'll be you'll be amazed come next year or the year after that when something finally happens where I have to produce a show and there's actually visual b-roll that I can incorporate yeah I'll be thrilled there's 5g phone the first 5g phone is expected at least announced first half of next year my guess is probably around February March when Samsung unveils its Galaxy S ten I suspect that'll be the first phone to be the first 5g phone out there there might be a couple others who kind of like announce their phone ahead of time but I think the very first one will probably come from Samsung I'm interested when you say 5g with quotation marks though because I feel like there's always like an Asterix or a caveat to whenever somebody says we're the first 5g it'll be 5g but it may not be for every carrier it may not be for every service like it might be just for like in the US it might only be - 18 T's 5g network or Verizon's 5g no it won't be like a universal thing well well 5g arrived to more practical uses like what you've talked about with you know connected cars and like medical like VR stuff first before it arrives - like on a consumer level it's actually that's a great question it's kind of debatable I think for like single purpose things like I don't know like an ATM machine or farming equipment that might come sooner but stuff like telemedicine or self-driving cars that's coming further down line because you need that yeah breadth of coverage it's not gonna come in that first two or three years all right next question coming in from there or what I lost track here Oh Thea Rhonda the rent they're very Endre sorry I'm terrible at names when will we see graphene powered phones graphene batteries never I don't know it's I mean III I'm excited by the the technology as much as anyone else but it's you know it's still kind of in the early stages we've talked about graphene as sort of this like almost miracle material but it's just it's that still very like early days R&D skunkworks type thing I don't think there's any major manufacturer that's looking at graphene in a meaningful way for the next few years with my own batteries that we have unfortunately are sort of the industry standard and we're gonna we're gonna have those for a while sad to say let's pivot over to Black Friday Cyber Monday for just a minute this is kind of a relevant question but probably a little bit off from Roenick is it okay to purchase an iPhone 6's from Amazon if it says it's simple mobile locked I'm not sure what that means do you guys know simple moles carry all right moles and a wireless reseller of service if you're in the u.s. I think it'd be okay and if you're not in the US and might be a little yeah cuz I think it's supposed to be tied to the service which you know if you have your own service already like Verizon or team or something yeah staying on the topic of Black Friday Cyber Monday before we move forward did you guys kind of brought this up earlier any any good scores I did a little shopping but I don't want to say what I bought because it was mostly gifts for other people and in case they see the show which they won't I don't want to let any cats out of the bag I mean the only thing I got was Red Dead Redemption - this is a bundle with called - before and I was already looking to buy the game that was it I didn't even get them any actually no that's not sure I got a bunch of presents for my nephews and nieces dad I didn't get anything yeah I don't need anything um you know no very happy for does he need to buy anything for anyone else cuz he's not a big gift giver yeah I also have no friends so I don't really that's a pretty cost-effective way to lose yeah so don't have friends and then you don't have to get them anything so in the broader sense though did we see anything that was really legitimately objectively a good deal floating around I mean yes my spider-man bundle for two hundred dollars was pretty enticing oh I didn't see yeah Wow where was that Target and Best Buy had it and I'm sure other like online retailers were offering that I know there were a bunch of TCL deals for TCL TVs and Roku TV there's one here like $350 for 55 inch 4k me that's just I don't that just boggles my mind how cheap they've gone yeah I don't know if you saw what cards against humanity' was doing over the weekend so they didn't see this prank on a black friday we're surprises no it was a 99 percent off sale so they had items that were like they literally sold a $20 bill for $2 and like those stuff things like a like a lab-grown diamond ring for like $39 instead of like 330 $900 okay it was very it was a very interesting set to watch go ahead and a one-year didn't they like raise the price yeah yeah there was one where their deal was like literally just a pile of crap that you could buy but yeah I was like looking on that like all but like people it was only like one of one so like it's my snatch it up it was gone gotcha that was probably like the I probably would have bought something from that had I had I got into the deals on time which one would you have gone the hundred dollar bill for a dollar they sold a car it's not a car for like 90 bucks oh really yeah it was I'm gonna go legit car yeah Wow woof there you go I mean they always have there's always an opportunity to reap your TV on Black Friday it seems like cats has always got his finger on the pulse for that obviously I didn't see anything to jumped out at me you know and all my ventures and I'll admit I spend most my time poking around on Amazon anything I saw was the same stuff I've seen for years the insta pots the sous vide cookers headphones which I don't need new headphones I have headphones I like and yeah I I really didn't see anything to blew my mind this year but farming out to the chat let us know if you saw anything really really really really really really good staying the topic Timothy's asking with all these leaks for product releases or Black Friday and Cyber Monday when will companies just blatantly admit that it's their marketing and PR department I will say never yeah but part of the mystique but it's like asking a magician reveal like that's their trick right yeah I I've always looked at Black Friday in that way where I I'm not a fan of it I don't like all these deals that are really just a big marketing ploy to make you want to buy stuff you don't need but anyway check us out check out CNN for all the best deals and well I appreciate Black Friday and Cyber Monday for what it is if I'm looking for something specific I wasn't really looking for being specific this year aside from Red Dead Redemption to which I'm very much looking forward to finding time to play somehow with between my kid and work and all that other stuff but yeah it's look it's it's useful if you have something you want I'll just say that yeah basically all right good enough we are out of time thanks everybody for coming on back thanks a responsive pub Jean mobile for keeping the lights on and we'll be back we are back to normal regularly scheduled broadcast right we don't have any weird hiatus dates coming up do we no I mean well we'll probably have to hiatus come the end of the year but no other big events that's gonna push our show so we should be we should be around for the next few weeks yeah at least until the next holiday season and then after that we'll be on our way to CES as per usual so hopefully we'll see some y'all there or hear from you there or anything along those lines but until then a normal regular weekday schedule again thanks for putting up with this when we were hopping around to the holidays and while somebody's just sitting over to Japan and all over the place so thanks I'll try to do better tomorrow the three of you 9 is available in iTunes tune in feedburner stitcher google play music google podcast amazon echo and of course Tina calm we'll see y'all tomorrow really you're not gonna give me any break on that one oh that was intentional just the clip was so short and it like went in to make the next autoplay thing that I'd kind of kind of pass us by all right I got it I tried bye folks oh yeah you