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and good Wednesday mid-afternoon starting a little bit late today on the 359 podcast episode 279 IM b VG and in the house today we've got roger tang and alfred hang and we are talking about stuff birds netflix and the phone beau'iful thing right yeah we're take a little bit longer to get her act together today because it's wednesday right dude - seriously no stop stop alright so we're good time with the Galaxy Note 8 the reviews came out yesterday literally as we were starting our podcast yesterday so we need a chance to address it but we'll talk about today we'll also talk about t-mobile's new offer basically if you're a t-mobile one customer you you'll get some free Netflix coming so there's that and lastly we want pulled plug for CB Shanklin latest road trip story about birding and the tech behind birding stops flashing your gang signs man bird it's a bird gig side I know what the bird egg sign is I need to flash that careful sorry the sign flashed the sign I'm fine yeah alright sorry for the ridiculousness this is you know after our normal time so we're a little loopy as usual we've up the lunch lols that's right I usually eat around this time I just been working yeah I'm doing it I'm doing the podcast now alright so as always if you have any questions about any of these topics except for the burning one since we're not really experts that's you're talking about the gang's leave over the comment section bruh heaven will get the best we will try to address them in 3 minutes and 59 seconds alright hang out we'll get this podcast recorded comeback meet you in the chat in 3 minutes and 59 seconds from 3 to welcome to the 359 I'm Roger Chang I'm Alfred Inge so the Galaxy Note 8 reviews are out and unsurprisingly they're all pretty positive you know the most feature packed phone the best Android phone that's out there but there are some caveats one it's really expensive there are a lot of features and there's some questions about whether or not you need all those features for the price and also the coming months we'll have the pixel two coming out so we can't really say if this is like the best Android phone for the year at least until Google comes out with their phone yeah I don't think it's worth it for the price but our audience already knows how cheap and broke I am well it's not heard a dollar so even if you are you know making a decent living that is an expensive phone right that the perspective might change when Apple comes out with a thousand dollar iPhone next we are raising the bar on you know what my sheep now yes but I mean the thing is like a lot of the hardware you know under the hood for it outside of the camera is really the same as the Galaxy s8 which is you know a few hundred dollars cheaper I think that's really the best point there is this phone is not it's marginally different than the Galaxy s8 and even to gauzy that's a plus which is a which has a display that's point one inches smaller yeah so it's really basically the same thing except for the stylus the dual cam yeah if you really want to shell out an extra you know but to $300 for that or you can draw on your screen I mean sure go ahead your money it's not mine so well remember it's actually the discounts probably cheaper at this point because you didn't get a GS eight and a galaxy s eight plus at ellora and a discount right now you can imagine more discounts are gonna come to be coming weeks once the note 8 really gets a chance to be on the market and so the price disparity is gonna be fairly wide yeah speaking of discounts and deals so what's going on with t-mobile and Netflix so t-mobile is they announced today that basically if you're a cheap mobile one a family planning customer you will get netflix for free so I mean what's the deal there though like how much does it cost to have a family plan to begin with that's the thing you know it still costs what was 60 70 dollars a month plus no different extra lines and you need to have at least two t-mobile Wan accounts to be eligible for this and you get the standard Netflix plan which is a $10 about the plan I will say this oh it is it is a much better offer than you know when Sprint goes around saying we're gonna give everybody a free title account who cares you know I think they made a smart move by going with you know Netflix on this yeah I mean going with basically the largest subscription streaming services I with like all the all the content we all watch is sort of is a good way I wonder if if after a TN t--'s merger with you know Time Warner that you know they would be able to get like HBO go for free on that yeah I mean they already offer that now basically if you have but the problem with ATT is if you have to subscribe to the most expensive unlimited data plan to get HBO for free and this isn't their most expensive unlimited oh this is for everyone who's got t-mobile one yeah so this is basically their baseline plan or their main plan alright lastly we want to give a plug after seeing Shanklin who wrote a fairly epic story on bird-watching the art of birding and how technology mobile apps camera gear online services making it easier for you to become a birder he's actually he followed sort of the highest profile birders in the field know her Stricker was one of them and a really fascinating story I'm not a big birdie fan but I think you know reading the story I'd be kind of it's just a thousand dollar camera for motivation there are some free apps there's a couple absolutely a couple of bucks yeah I mean I would probably use those instead yes so for those stories and more chickens I don't see that I brought a shame I'm offering thanks for saying alright that snuck up on me quick there yeah the birds the timer wasn't running either side that was about four minutes yeah sure close enough internal clock is usually accurate about these things our journal clock is about 30 to 45 seconds late every time pretty consistently like alright so anyways we're back from recording the podcast please submit any questions and comments about the Samsung Galaxy S a no Nate no date sorry all right there and the chats already lighting up with what an idiot I am and bird watching is kind of an interesting one I'm kind of curious to see if there's anyone out there who is interested in that hobby I know when I was younger I was just kind of generally and this is speaking way over my pay grade here that was Jinta into zoology I thought animals were fantastic I loved going to zoos I read books by Audubon I kind of want to read more on this story by Stephen to be honest I was really into hawks and like goons like bird of prey I thought they were really just cuz they're badass yeah I thought they were really cool when I was a kid still fishing right there alright go ahead and expand a little bit more on what Jessica had in her review a couple of things that actually kind of surprising because one of the features that I really was looking forward to using extensively was this portrait mode they're their version of portrait mode which is life focused the idea that you can do that no and so she found it to be a little finicky didn't work well all the time but to be fair the portrait mode on your iPhone seven doesn't work well all the time either you have to have like sort of ideal sunlight conditions for it to really work but it didn't work as well as I would like one of the other knowing aspects that came back from the estate the fingerprint sensor which is still it's actually even worse now because it's still by the camera because the phone is longer you've got to really reach up there with your finger that sounds that look really bad sorry sorry about the baby you really got a stricter figure to hit the unlock button your fingers stop dude stop I apologize so you know a couple of annoying bits but that said like it runs on the same superfast processors the s8 it does have the stylus it's got that cool note-taking ability which you know most people aren't going to use but yeah it's kind of nice to have remember when they announced the node 8 and they talked about how great their photos would look in low-light and their demo photos actually did look kind of stunning yes and then we were on this very podcast saying we'll see what like yeah did you see her low-light photos they were not good yeah but you know to be fair though nobody has a good luck hammer I was gonna say the exact same thing like everyone always claims that they've made the big big breakthrough on low like photos and and then normal people get their hands on it and it's not it's like yeah it looks great if you have like a professional photographer take that phone and like mess with the settings and like the lighting and everything yeah sure that photos gonna be great but yeah your me use it it's not gonna I just I just like to call that out every time just because they always present it as everyone and then we every time we get our hands on it's like no it's not are you talking about so anybody that was looking forward to taking photos in the dark with the no date sorry no what you doing take it flush on the jar Pokemon go man okay this a clubbing as a thing alright people close I mean you're the right age right let's jump into the chat Fran al from meth Amman Massachusetts ed hey Roger what are your thoughts on the note eight are you going to upgrade I am you know what I was considering it because I kind of like the stylist in the fact that I can jot on it on the lockscreen which is I think it actually has some text recognition which would be kind of like basically a report I know that yeah I feel like reporters would like to thank that but I don't think you're gonna do that Jessica does it though she writes she actually actively uses it she just not record when she's talking if you do the thing oh really yeah like there Bixby or something I don't know there's no record button you can like turn it off screen maybe maybe she just jot notes down I don't know you got that Jessica I prefer personally I like the idea I want to see what the pixel to looks like before I make any kind of decision you know I thought about this with the essay too cuz I like the essay and especially size-wise using like s6 edge right I'm using the s6 edge which is terrible so I've kind of swapped it out for a loner pixel which I love and so I'm kind of hoping that the pixel two is big upgrades that would make my decision process a little bit easier although I have to say like the and know right and also has a headphone jack fo Jack is clutch which yeah if you look at it maybe the pixel Tuesday you try to shove my lighting port by lightening headphone into my eye pixels keep me posted on that pixel to I'm in the market yeah alright Michael Brown or buddy Michael Brown oh my god thank phone makers in this case Samsung care for stealing consumers from competitors or as everyone just kind of set in their demographics I would say Samsung is probably keen on stealing from other Android makers and yes they would ideally like to steal from iPhone customers or iPhone users but do you think that's actually part of the strategy or are they just kind of fingers crossed I mean they strategize around doing it I just don't know if they're actually successful at that yeah I feel like if they wanted to steal from you know other their competitors like specifically between Android and Apple they make their features a lot more similar today I think they I think everyone kind of knows at this point like it's really tough to get someone to switch operating systems especially if they've been added for a couple years so I mean I think for them it's looking more at you know Xiaomi and looking at low budget guys looking at LG LG but looking at various other Android makers and looking at Google and pixel customers yeah I think if anything Google and you know Xiaomi and Huawei they're the ones that are trying to build something to steal away from Samsung yes absolutely I was trying to steal away from Brett the other folks I mean they're looking at market share but because there's there by far the most dominant player now I think that's you're right they're they're less mindful of that they're more like we want to make sure we make my healthy stones as well if anything Samsung is trying to steal people away like based off of their software like they have their own like TouchWiz thing going on there yeah but that's never really been successful like the sales point of like come you know come join the Samsung family you you get to use TouchWiz I mean I never big spear ight now well yeah but it's not really working so well yeah no no no one is by that phone for big speed let's just say that trying they are trying I don't think they're succeeding though they're succeeding more than their brand and the quality of the build of their phones let's talk a little more about phones and loyalty you said you've got the s6 edge right yeah Matthew - are the - and the Chad Lord says I know I'm in the minority but I don't like large phones I picked on my Galaxy s4 for the first time in months and I forgot how nicely fit in my hand I'm with you - I'm running a loaner LG v10 right now and it's too big no I just I still use the 5s I'm probably gonna upgrade to an S II and that's like the furthest I'm going because I'm like it has everything I need and it still gets some of the later security on the head of dual camera I don't tell you it's awesome I don't I don't take photos especially if people I mean I just mostly take flows my kid yeah and for that it's got so many portraits over your kid you have so many portrait it's a little tell you tell me when the dual camera thing is on the front because I feel like that's when these portrait photo these fake bouquet stuff is gonna be a lot more like prevalent but yeah yeah that's true you can have your single camera selfies well the whole deal with selfies is don't you want to like see where you are the background it's all blurred out you know people just want to see themselves that's that's just if you want to do the background that's when you get a selfie stick they bother to ask other people to take photos I saw that I'm always disappoint because the flows are turned back on Matthews note though I wish everything were just smaller just make everything tinier tiny phones ergonomics a little bit Zoolander yeah yeah I we've kind of like it's this weird that's it's an interesting point cuz everything else the technology is like shrinking but our phone so yeah that's no sense yeah there's actually a question for me in the chat whoa this is unreal ooh Chris Wesley says what about you BVG are you up for an upgrade or you're waiting for something great I am up for an upgrade and I'm just kind of biding my time right now you're looking at switch I had an iPhone 6 which I drowned earlier this year don't ask how yeah and then I was borrowing an HTC One yeah also drowned which I bent bent bent it oh it's a metal phone so I guess I could Bend easier yeah and then now I'm like I said a run in the LG v10 it's a nice phone but it is uncomfortably large for my personal compression that V live from LG is kind of analogous to the samsung note lines so they're always gonna be a little bit bigger yeah right now if I was to throw money down and buy something I'm looking at an s7 and s7 active oh for sure so you can't break it their life and durability is right now that seems to be what I need to go for yeah but I mean but as far as functionality goes I'm fairly comfortable in both iOS and Android I've been pleasantly surprised by all of the above yeah the whole size thing was the biggest reason why I switched from Android back to to Apple for iOS really yeah it was basically I was looking for a new Android phone outside but I had had an Android phone like loyally for like oh there aren't that many and then it's all I hey here's all these giant yeah all right well the worst part about it for Android filmmakers is like they they've gone into mindset like bigger means better so all the small phones they make if they do make some small phones they're all like a step back in terms of speed and capabilities so yeah it's either like get an awesome big phone or a crappy little phone yeah so I'm just gonna get the small iPhone worked out for me you go let's go back into the chat Michael Brown what will you need out of the pixel to to keep you away from Samsung Galaxy Note 8 oh don't say headphone jack that's it that's the biggest thing well headphone jack would be nice dual camera lens dual camera lens waterproof yeah all the wireless charging you know all the the kind of typical bells and whistles I just want like I know the pixel original pixel camera was was better was rated better than the iPhone camera and so I'm hoping that they can kind of keep that up that their their camera technology continues to be sort of best in the industry that's the case I mean that's a big selling point for me and then just the fact that it's a clean version of Android is yeah it's a bonus also I'm not sure what price point they're gonna go with on this one that that's the one thing that's been eluding me as far as all these like leaks and rumors goes well I don't think they're gonna go with like a thousand dollar price that's the thing but I mean the I mean with Google's like flagship phones for a while up until the pixel you know we're gonna keep this affordable like 300 yeah yeah and they change they flip this one pixel cam yeah we're gonna make this a real expensive and the remember to be working with HTC HTC tends to make fairly high end phone so yeah I'm saying if it's at least if it has all those features that we talked about yeah wish list and if it is at least like 200 or 300 dollars less than the note eight I think it will yeah yeah my guess is the small the large will be 615 750 or round that around last year's pricing level I'll simply make like a small version that'd be incredible ooh a pixel mini yeah mini pixel you know what the favorite is don't they just I don't know they don't maybe they'll sell well they'd be customers just because people want giant screens to watch to like binge watch stuff on their phone yeah and they kind of look at this point they equate smaller with cheaper like they don't expect they don't want to pay the same price for a smile I have no problem with smaller and cheaper that's no no no that's okay cheaper construction like yeah yeah okay I got it let's take a hot second and talk about birds birdy Michael Brown imagine they are coupled with bird watching mmm I'd like to see you flesh that idea out exactly how you picture that kind of plan out because that's a curious thought imagine a scenario where like you pull up a bird that you're like you think you're looking at you like oh I think I'm looking at this it'd be like a sparrow in whatever I don't know a bird it'd be like a real-life pokedex yeah like you you pull up your phone and like in real life this birds flying around and then you can sort of compare to the one you're seeing with your actual eyes and you can sort of see if there's similar or not if you've got the right bird that would be a good kind of reference a way to reference whether or not you're looking at the know wasn't Google working on something like that at least with identifying business as attic yeah but that means that the the concept and the technology could possibly be there yeah developer by any chance the imagination but it'd be interesting to see if that was possible and they didn't as really as a species cataloging as I was reading the story though a lot of those like old school birders were like well that's the day of birding dies basically like yeah if you when the human aspect gets taken but you don't yeah well you basically don't need to know anything about birding you just point your cameras like oh it's this thing yeah that's when bird-watching dies because that's like that's what the sports all about and let's support that's what the activity is all about right yeah going out there identifying or no like they have up or stargazing and that's not like stargazing is dead no like pointed up and like see what constellation no but that was Matthews follow-up was what about AR astrology yeah they have that already it does exist I've never tried it I'd be kind of interested to see if you could actually bring that into the home three mobile device where it would be more like an interactive in-house planetarium type thing yeah because I love going to the planetarium but it's pricey oh yeah it gets pricey grass tyson degrasse tyson bring that price but I do love it and it'd be kind of cool if you could rig that up to a projector put it on your ceiling right and go stargazing in your house cuz I mean for those of us that live in the city you can't see the stars as well yeah that's just a thought yeah I went on a camping trip I was really excited to do some stargazing and then my sight was underneath a bunch of trees no I said like it right here I have to where I'm staying that was already set up I was it back on a are though yeah we talked about how birding if the if the mobile device identification was brought into that and it would essentially kind of kill the sport that's not necessarily true either I mean this might be a slightly offensive analogy to people but I mean hunting still exists and no one needs to hunt for their own food anymore it's an activity right right like there are a number of things like outdoors about the catharsis about the enjoyment but the idea of birding is the idea of going out there looking at these birds and using I guess old-school methods to identify what these birds are whether it's looking at them looking up in a book trying to listen to the call for your book wasn't it the same thing as like looking it up on your phone I guess but it's so what it dies because it's faster to find out something well no because you're not trying to find out anymore you basically point you're what he's saying is you point your phone at it and it'll tell you immediately it's this thing and you're not judging the favorite is with a book I mean there's that beauty of birding or just being able to see birds like in there like natural habitat being no no no no a lot of it is finding specific hard to find bird it's like Pokemon it's finding and look and try night somebody bomb on you can find it immediately though they don't have to pull out books to like know what Pokemon it is okay fine not the right analogy but I'm just saying that that's it's it's not necessarily just like looking at random birds like going after him finding specific birds in the wild yeah Who am I to disagree with expert birders on what shows their reports oh that's right before we go any further a correction on my part Matthew doctor pointed I stood a stralla G instead of astronomy and I yeah hey or astrology or astrology like this guy's a storm is gonna fly at you so tramping over you Freudian slip have a bad day today sir sorry about that I'm an idiot one more question before we let it go Jackie asks I'm confused as birding the same thing as no riddle run ah no there's a or Naruto run - it's great but Oh God they poof the little ninjas behind no you're joking but like I feel like that's a thing that could be a very realistic way to do it I'm gonna make it now make million that could be your yeah you know like I've out see that I've retired so on Saturday I got a link to another event it was a scream like Goku in front of Washington Square Park oh my gosh is and I was like no one's gonna go to us and then I gotta I saw a video of a bunch of people just like screaming little babies a bunch though it was like more than the Naruto I actually went to this instead which what has a larger base definitely Dragonball Z but birding probably has larger than both of them yeah yeah there are a lot more birds apparently it's a growing a girl calling a sport this is a sport it's a hobby it's a hobby it's a growing hobby yeah isn't like a majority of people on our staff now like into birding I think because I think yeah I think a bunch wasn't either read the story or just talk to Shanklin I have become birders at least folks on SF people in New York number I look at pigeons all the time the city yeah we just we just have pigeons we actually have a lot of Falcons in the city really yeah and like I've seen it cool I've seen red-tailed Hawks in New York City actually has the largest population swallows and like has like a really large not larges I don't know where the largest this might be New York I don't know but an urban area of peregrine falcons which is like the fastest animal on the planet because and yeah because they eat pigeons they like dive-bomb and in like religions in like eat them you watched like you've seen it was great I haven't seen it in person but you've watched YouTube clips yeah also on planet earth - like that's part of their oh cool okay okay nice any other questions about birding note or t-mobile Netflix no no not this time around but we should clarify make sure to look at the actual t-mobile Netflix article that we'll post in the show description yeah it is important it's not like all no holds bar you get Netflix you get yeah yeah yeah there are a bunch of caveats to it there you know including the quality of Netflix you get why yes you get the standard you plan which is HD get the the premium yes which I mean to there to be fair like they're you know big they intend for this to be mobile although you can watch it on anything and you know they've really been kind of lowering the the quality of the streams going to their phones they argued like a 4k stream doesn't make a difference in your phone like you're not gonna know yes your 4k yeah cuz no phones at 4k screen and if you do want if you do pay for a premium plan already it'll basically take $10 off of that plan so you pay two bucks and we're not trying to be overly critical there are there you should read the story there are definitely some details you want to know about the plan it starts September 12th yep and yeah if you're a if you're on a t-mobile one family plan that's important table one plan not one of the other discount plans with legacy plan like that Mon Thank You eligible yep alright anyways I think that's about the right place for ya for Wednesday thanks everybody for joining Roger bring it home all right if you like anything you saw or heard here check us out see that our podcast is also available on iTunes tune in stitcher SoundCloud Feedburner and Google Play Music we will try to you tomorrow I will I don't know baby okay bye my dad