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Bryant ah what's up everybody welcome to the big show I'm adjusting my chair as we speak just that my hair can be appropriately framed in the camera because when we do this live show extra crunchy extra munch all that of we obviously stream it live on youtube on livestream we got my friends from periscope watching maybe I don't I don't know if we should do Facebook live it I don't know if it would make I don't know i don't think it would work like we have to have an input into a phone or we just another phones ice put another phone yeah yeah yeahs have my own phone we spend another phone yeah we might do that if you guys really want that but we don't want to you know this is for the diehards is for the people that are legit they want to know what's going on with the world of Apple we start off here this is episode 34 we're making it we're making it beach oh yeah I've been a year actually are you serious know that we started last July or that makes me feel old extra crunchy here we also want to let you know this show is all about you it's not about all about us 1 800 61 62 63 8 is the phone number to call that's where you leave your name number message in your comments we love what you guys have been doing I think it typically the calls and it's it's bling it on there typically we get calls around the time when big stuff happens with Apple yeah we get good calls when big stuff happens yeah just because that's what everyone wants to talk about so we're gonna start things off there is plenty of news and updates and rumors and everything that you guys know and love first of all though catch you up to speed apple reported their earnings a few days ago uh and it wasn't good it was really quite honestly shocking it was their first year over you right year-over-year revenue decline the first since 2003 and just to put that in perspective of where Apple was back then apple announced that ipod for windows would get itunes in 2003 that's how long ago that was okay Wow since then Apple has been in an uptick on every quarter summertime out four times a year they report their quarterly earnings duh they've been up free time until now 2016 q1 apples up profit excuse me apples revenue 50 point six billion dollars profit of 10.5 billion dollars that is down from a year ago where the numbers were at 58 billion and 13.6 who are the culprits that really hurt them quite honestly it was everyone iphone sales actual units were down 10 million Mac sales were down half a million ipad sales were down if i recall right around 2.3 million and all these are not I'm talking about not talking about dollars we're talking about units here oh okay so everything that 10 million you can say that doesn't seem that that's not big at all but you did we're talking about units here yeah multiply those unit numbers by seven hundred dollars apiece that's that the hence the drop in there yeah so you know you look at this and I just want to address all the haters right now looking at you that continue to get mad and say do you like you hate Apple we why do you like talked about about Apple when we're just merely stating the facts of the situation that's going on and this is the first time that you're actually finally seeing some of those effects of the ability of Apple just kind of extending their products but not coming out with anything new aka amazon echo AKA vr AKA smart car AKA what else you know Apple watch yeah actual apple like an actual apple watch and we'll talk about that more so during the earnings Apple wanted to put kind of their own take on it just to encourage investors of where there might be more momentum oh let's let's talk about you know what also quick thing ipad pro right if that ipad pro really made a difference you would have seen that in the earnings yeah they were still down half a million ipad units apple says demand for the iphone SE our favorite phone the 5-inch phone with a iphone 5s and 6s parts and technology inside they said the demand is very strong as it in its exceeding available supply that just might be because they forecasted lower numbers i think that next quarter depending on what happens with the iphone I've got to imagine it's going to be flat if not negative but if it is a little higher we can probably attribute that to the improvement of the iphone SE sales being better than expected but i don't think it's going to be anything monsters monstrous stuff is going to come out when the iphone 7 when that releases then all those upgraders that's when we're going to see big numbers so and to apples credit it's not that the market is even strongly the market smartphone shipments in general has fallen three percent annually also apples individual global market share has fallen initial at least a year ago it was at 16 i believe it was at 16.3 and let me look at these numbers real quick yes 16.3 percent global market share last year now it's at 15.3 Samsung is still the leader they pretty much Holt held tight at twenty four percent but what we have is competition from China hallway oppo all these other smaller phones and it's a market that Apple is really trying to target that is where Apple is losing market share and as well as the smartphone market in general flat not only flattening out but the client as well I also think a lot of people are tired of the you know upgrade every year plan you know it's like I it's it's expensive to upgrade so why buy a new phone every year probably just gonna try to hang on there the phone's a little longer than usual you know that couldn't have a lot to play in this you're also right because the phones market is so mature now really I feel like what we're getting is one year we'll get we'll always get a faster processor so forget that but one year it's a better camera and maybe an extra feature and then the other year is an all new redesign that's that's what we're getting at now the point where it's just not the the technology and what these things can do has come has really slowed down and definitely reached a plateau right it's like where do we go next you know where we gonna what are we gonna do next what are we gonna be able to fold our phone because I need a foldable I really need a foldable phone yeah right it's been like it as in general it has been slower but now there's not that don't think there's that extreme like lust of before when phones were new ones came out I had to get the newest phone yes it was like I really I have to get it now it's like uh well you know my phone still is pretty kick-ass so I'm can wait a couple years I mean the bloodlust was high for a while but i think it's i think it's cooled off a little i'm just curious what other people think if you guys want to call us 1 800 61 62 63 where are you and where are your thoughts in regards to just are you as hyped up about phone releases every year or have you kind of lost some of that have you lost some of that mojo Shamar Iverson in YouTube saying back to flip flo back to flip phones everybody back to back I got the flip phone in me going back to back all right um we do also want to dress this the earnings were so bad that the next day there was a dead body found on Apple's campus no I'm not I can only say that and make light of it but really be serious about it because I can explain myself that's it it's actually a poorly it's a bad joke it's not good but really what happened here just two addresses an employee was found dead in a company conference room the day after apples earnings yeah they don't they don't have much details about it they said he was a young man too so it's kind of out of nowhere and again this guy has family this guy has friends we don't know what was actually going on with him maybe you know there could be mental health issues as well we just don't know but it happened just right after earnings it was like oh my gosh could you get any more bad news going on over there yes and someone like stop that right now you could speculate us to uh he was a little bummed out yeah he may he might have been there were a lot of rumors flying around of how or what might have happened in that conference room but we're just gonna wait they're doing an autopsy on it we're not going to focus on it too much but it is something that happened and you're not going to just ignore like if this is a show about Apple news and someone died on their campus and potentially committed suicide well probably gonna mention it do you want to hear the the Mercury News dispatch audio from the call to the police is it interesting enough to listen to it could be could be compelling let's hear okay I'm what has working so far for me at apple campus symphony for a gen 56 camp kidding we need to head the head possibly has expired Wow okay that does not sound like the reports we've been hearing a lady bleeding from a head wound and possibly had a gun that was the initial reports so we have no idea what's going on Wow we'll see we'll find out we'll find out we'll find out um as we transition from that you know the question really about where's Apple going and we've talked about this in our prediction shows what can they really do to stir things up what can they do that really turn this train around turn this in the right direction the iphone 7 plus design drawings reportedly have been leaked out by mac fan magazine and these uh in the past they have actually leaked out other schematics that turn to be pretty accurate but this is the iphone 7 design and it still looks pretty much exactly like an iphone 6s other than the removing some of the antenna lines the thickness of the phone and the dimensions are exactly the same as the iphone 6s the main difference is that we said are going to be seen here at least based on these drawings and they do support the rumors but the schematics are printing right on the money there this is going to be the iphone 7 pro not to be confused with the iphone 7 or the iphone 7 plus there's going to be a larger potentially rumoured dual lens camera on this pro version of the phone so think of this like the flagship of the phones there is space on the schematics for that the most interesting thing to me is there is a smart connector on the bottom and what that is is up sorry let me rewind a little bit there is no headphone jack just the Lightning port like we've talked about okay so that's there on this on these schematics the other thing is the smart connector for those of you who are familiar with the iPad pro it's these three little dots that allow you to connect their keyboard case the iphone this iphone on the schematics show that it also has a smart connector on the bottom of the phone but what i thought this could really be interesting for is that this provides data it also provides power so you think about those battery charging cases that typically have to kind of create this big fat chin on the bottom of your phone so that it goes into the Lightning port to do the power transfer this could all be done now it's the smart connectors on the rear base of the phone you can actually make some of these battery cases a lot more slim a lot slimmer sorry more swim and that's a good thing so that that's interesting some people are saying oh you could dock a keyboard case to it I you know I guess you could do some keyboard type accessory but this phone people are asking about on periscope OLED display no that is supposed to be coming sometime in 2017 or 2018 people asking about the all-glass body phone that is still rumored for the next generation and not for the iphone 7 so if you want that don't don't I wouldn't cross your friend I wouldn't hope for that don't cry cross your fingers real hard if you expect that's happening cuz i don't i don't want all glass body thank you I don't either I don't either I don't all right next up the Apple watch can this guy help turn this ship around I meant to say ship I think I said train earlier i meant ship ship or boat people difficult to turn a train around i mean i've seen it done in movies spider-man stop a train with his feet that's right right yeah um did you ever see that train movie with uh Chris Evans that was based off the Korean directors what is it called with Denzel Washington oh no the train movie with denzel washington was like the airplane movie with denzel oh that's right I forgot someone someone's gonna tell him it's no snowpiercer is that what it's called yeah snowpiercer I think it's someone threw that out there for me on the scopes but um anyways back to the stories Apple watch report here says from the wall street journal that the faster Apple watch too may feature built-in cellular connectivity as well as a faster sir there you go boom okay uh early reports said that the Apple watch might be really more like an apple watch s cycle and so if that's the case all these rumors about maybe a FaceTime camera and Wi-Fi and all the debt if its cellular connectivity and a faster processor that might be the Apple watch two or the Apple watch s that's what people been wanting you know something that you don't have to have your phone on you if you want to pay for you will have to pay well yeah you'll pop to pay double the data probably or they'll make like some like tiered pricing or you know if you have an apple watches five dollars extra or something I have a feeling Danny or you could just get just Apple watch LTE would be cool just just Apple watch else you would be nice so who knows what they're gonna do I actually don't care about the LTE aspect my three things that I really wanted this watch our Wi-Fi so that it can just connect directly to I find more around Wi-Fi that we can get access to i would say arguably sixty percent of the time a lot of okay so i want the watch to have that it just has to piggyback back off the fact that the phone is connected Wi-Fi and sync up that way okay that's that would be number one and then be independent of the phone number two I want apps that I actually are so compelling that I'm like I actually need to use this and three I've said this before I wanted to have a feature that no other watch has that makes it cool that makes it quirky and it doesn't mean it's necessary I want them to make it a Dick Tracy watch I want a FaceTime camera and be able to use my watch like that oh yeah if it's the first watch that could actually do that you might use it once a month but damn you know that's cool I'd probably use it more views more on my family facetimes me all the time yeah and I i faced time my lady i faced on my nieces and nephews my mom and dad my mother baby I mean who wouldn't want to do that just for fun you know that that that is one of those things that would just be like and no watch is doing that yet yeah so just do it make make make it happen make it happen so that's what I want to watch um but in case you're kind of worried about oh where where are these watches going right where's the watch market going strategy analytics just posted a report that says the Apple watch slipped down to fifty two percent of global market share for smartwatches in the first quarter of 2016 now last quarter it was at let me look at this really quickly it was at sixty-three percent and this quarter it is now at fifty two percent the disconcerting part about this is that actual overall global SmartWatch shipments have grown two hundred and twenty three percent so that means that apple's market share while the general market has increased has actually decreased of course we have competition from like Android watches and ties and watches and people are kind of getting a little smart you would think that if the Apple watch was a hit that as the market share grew globally the watch apple's market share would grow as well you would think but that hasn't been the case that hasn't been the case just can't get a foothold yet so uh it's one of those things that if you ask the question okay if the Apple watch is gonna do it are they are they gonna help turn things around for Apple I don't think so not yet at least unless they put FaceTime on that watch gimme Apple watch with facetime that's dope people that know what that is referenced people that know now they know they know they know no um also apple just released a bevy of updates overall safaris technology preview three this is our browser that has kind of hooks in it for developers and what not to do different things they've released an update to that iOS 9.3 point2 public beta 3 is out OS 10 10 point 11.5 dev beta is out these are all out for their devices nothing kind of major just a lot of tweaks but the biggest thing that we talked about a little earlier it's just a bringing back low power mode and night shift being able to be used simultaneously yeah I need that sooner than later Apple get on it get on it what WWDC is in June so you're you you actually see the beta have to suffer for another two months you'll get an update before WWDC and then they'll show you the new version of those go off with OS i OS 10.4 okay or I don't know iOS 1111 yeah I'd be iOS 11 line goes to 11 it would go to 11 I'm in other cool news just in general for Apple they showed off their care kit platform this is really a little different than health care and research kit which makes this different is that it allows you the user to plug in and pretty much log some of your symptoms depending on your health related to different apps so that it can be logged and then shared with your health provider it's kind of a day-by-day thing that you can do because there's no you're the one that would actually need to be committed to it so there's four care kit apps that are available as of today glow nurture pregnancy tracker doesn't affect me but might affect me in the future well glow baby once the baby is born it does everything from feed schedules to grow charts these are both free apps one drop is a diabetes management app that provides OneTouch logging of your glucose your food meds and activity and then start is a depression management app provides testing and progress tracking to help determine the effect of medications if you're suffering from depression and then by pumping this data in from yourself this will give medical professionals more information they need to either see if these treatments are helping you so I think this is actually really this using our phone as a middleman between us and our doctors and healthcare providers it's not the sexiest thing but it's actually really cool it's happening though I mean like we already do we have this app that we use here at CBS interactive the tracks are exercise that's writing habits or sleeping habits it does all that stuff and you can get points and win stuff so it's happening everywhere you know it's pretty cool so for those who don't know what Stevens like really referring to is like this app that is plugged into um like these benefits yes health benefits and basically CBS just wants is trying to encourage you to not only use the app to earn these points that are then can help you get a discount on your health care coverage yeah but it's basically like um yeah you guys should be healthier because we don't want you to die and we don't want a head pay yeah we don't want to be a health we don't want to pay for you to die that's basically what it comes down to you so we wouldn't know if you're exercising we want to know what you're eating I don't being my phone is plugged into the periscope but I don't remember what even the Apple is called but I have it oh yeah it's called I'll tell you we're gonna find it for you i use it actually do virgin pulse yeah the Virgin pulse app virgin virgin polsat yeah and it's actually virgin like the company you know like virgin air oh yeah they have a like a help their Halloween sort of health thing and it's tied to my my moves app which counts all my steps okay so it lets counted absent yeah exercise and then that syncs with that it's it's all so complicated it is complicated um carrick it though I think there are little late to the game I don't know if any of you remember but there was this actual real clever app that you can check daily called pms buddy i recommend it for guys to track the cycle of their ladies just in case it so you know when to hide and dude I'm I'm serious about that too I'm not even offending my babe but like it can come in handy when you need a psych kind of lay low a little bit you're like walking home you get a notification oh yeah it's late you're when you're within that three or four day rain we go to the grocery store and make sure I get chocolates and everything I don't even need to get anything for her I just need to stay out of her way I thought that's what it comes down to well that's part of it going in the grocery store hiding and then groceries under an hour it that it encourages to clean up around the apartment so it looks so it's like oh he's doing stuff okay well I'm gonna get mad at anyone for guys to cos guys get pms to man monthly there is there's there's male pms but i don't know if there's a way to track that there is male pms oh yeah both site office eyelids all right Apple Apple car news Apple appears to be prototyping car parts at its product realization lab this is where they've really done concepts or actual physical you know models or form factors for things like the max iPhones other apple products but reports are saying that they're doing this now in their own actual lab for car parts they've also hired new engineers from Tesla Andretti Autosport to kind of push forward with this whole new car initiative and also the other kind of thing that is a companion with this and we talked about how hard it is to really make a card and Steven can expand on this in a sec is that handles blot reported that Apple has been looking for a partner to build this car for them okay they've been looking they've been talking to Daimler which is Mercedes manufacturers mercedes-benz they've talked to BMW which is obviously BMWs but both of those manufacturers have ruled out and have shut down talks of talking with Apple to build apples idea of their I car or their Apple car and one of the debates is really a who is going to lead the development of this car we know Apple is a control freak so obviously they'd want to be like yeah we're gonna do it yes and daimler and BMW don't want to just be the manufacturing you know itches to it they don't want to be they don't they don't want to be there it you know I'm frantically looking for the story because Roadshow has a story about who they have tentatively partnered with do you have magnet was a magnet international right that's correct Canadian Austrian based car manufacturer they've been talking to them as well and but debate you know the big boys are like uh not only do we not know who's going to take the leanest project there's also debate between Apple wanting to who gets to keep the customer data right Apple wants to plug this into their iCloud data system right get information on not only driving behaviors what they're using what they're doing well Mercedes sorry daimler and BMW they want their they want that same information will it be shared who stores it where how does one get it right so that becomes an ugly mess yeah totally and so they have decided to yet not do it which again kind of reinforces our talks earlier of light it's really hard to make a car yeah it's very hard and you know I did recorded auto complete today with Brian Cooley and there was another story that Apple is secretly operating a lab in Germany right now and they hired like 600 German auto makers you know to work on this thing and Brian Cooley is kind of speculating like he doesn't think it's going to happen I mean it's it's easy for Apple they can afford this they can fire 600 guys work in a lab and you know spend some money it's possible but at the same time like Wall Street is saying why why is Apple gonna do this when their profit margins are so high for like the iPhone and other things like that like they just make enormous profits off these things and then if they get into the car business the profit margins are going to be extremely slim it's so risky for them to do this like why would they do it like they're just be crazy to do it right but we keep seeing all this news they're hiring the Tesla guy they got the secret lab in Germany hired like 600 people so you know it's still so up in the air but everything is seems like it's heading in the direction of an apple car right now it's counterintuitive to what they've been and that's why this is a different company right yes they're doing things that they would not have normally done in the past quite honestly they need products now but it's a little late that's going to turn things around for them financially I told you if they don't get this TV streaming deal done by the end of the year it's a huge fail for them that that's a potential big revenue stream for them that they're still not tapping to and we're midway we're close to halfway into 2016 I phones are pretty much flattening out now iPads or negative max are a little negative but I think they'll get a boost with the new macbook pros but look what what exciting product is Apple have that's gonna spark that's going to turn their financial reports around it's it's there's really not much the Apple pencil totally getting into a car right margins on I think wait a copper margins are they like around like ten percent if that yeah I mean they're really slim a lot of those companies they lose you know they lose money and that's one that why they make a new model every single year seems or even multiple models but it's just such a hard thing to get into and like Apple would just be taking a huge risk doing that I would just encourage people to test drive a Tesla and then tell me how some company is going to be able to leap frog that in the next five years yeah but even Tesla's having problems oh yeah I'm having recalls there's like all kinds of issues I mean there are new car maker as well you know and they're not they're building cars that are cool looking and they have great ideas but they're still not the most the greatest most functional cars you know yeah yeah and shield there's windshield problems see problems all kinds of little little things you won't even think about until you get thousands of people on the road driving them then you start to figure out what's wrong you know this ain't easy it's not easy the same elight life ain't easy it ain't easy all right um as we move over from Apple car just kind of an update on the FBI and the Apple happenings we've talked about the FBI was able to unlock some of the phones in the past they on their own terms and it has just been made official from the FBI that they are they will be keeping their apple iphone hack secret and the reason being is that the FBI actually paid a company right to get to hack into this actual phone for them and then they've they're going to be using it i guess the similar method with the New York drug case that follows up after the terrorist case from San Bernardino they pay more than 1.3 million dollars for this method but they say that they didn't purchase the actual rights to the technical details and therefore they don't have the correct information to actually get this looked at and also pretty much deconstructed because there's this process that you submit to the you know US government it's called the vulnerabilities equities process and from there the FBI assesses okay is this vulnerability important enough for us to alert the company this company being Apple and tell them you need to fix this right this is a way that someone can get into your product your hardware your software but because the FBI says they don't have it they are not able to submit this and apple won't find out about it so that's what it comes down to unless unless they pay the firm that unlocked it right well yes they paid the firm that unlocked apple if Apple paid the first said show us how you did this yes that's probably the only way so it basically be a private transaction it wouldn't be and out in the open kind of public transaction it would be private it's all behind closed doors don't tell nobody sag in the phone um just transition you kind of some fun cool stuff so anyways that whole thing is that situation is pretty much dead squashed we're not gonna see it anytime soon Apple getting the ability to figure out how do they actually get in our phones but it I've got imagine over time it's gonna happen Yeah right it's going to be they'll get it'll be revealed they'll figure it out but for now it's still a secret all right this is a little different completely out of left field but come on if you all saw the Deadpool movie I don't know how many of you did some of you kiddies should not see that movie it's did you see it yet I have some of you kitty some of you kid I won't spoil some you kitties like Steven Beecham should not see it but um its glory there's there's blood and brains but in a fun way we've seen how they've had this like really super clever marketing campaign and they've done things like a billboard with emojis that was a skull and a poop and the letter L so if you actually read it together it would be dead poo also Deadpool oh yes really cool I have a shirt that has that on it just for the record because I like t-shirts that are cool um so they're doing they're fun marketing campaign with iTunes they're releasing the movie digitally two weeks before the actual blu-ray release and so Deadpool is now like in the actual promo marketing for things like the x-men for things like taken he's in the artwork that you would find on the itunes store in their banner ads super funny but it's just their way to promote Deadpool the actual movie being available on digital this is my favorite city it's awesome it's super is super cool so you guys just go check it out if you haven't seen it yet um hopefully it does pop up once in a while and then finally Tim Cook mr. CEO he has this thing that he's done for the past four years it's called the charitybuzz lunch with tim cook again fourth year in a row it's an auction and basically if you want to spend time and pick his brain or talk to him about why Apple's revenue is lower than it ever has as the climb i'm not saying lower than it's ever been but why the revenue was going down he is available in parallel to apples reports Tim Cook's this auction to go spend an hour with him at lunch is actually declined over the past three years so when it originally was out four years ago it was like the lunch with him for an hour sold for six hundred thousand dollars oh then it went to three hundred and thirty thousand dollars oh then I went to two hundred thousand dollars and then right now I think it's somewhere around like 210 wow so that's an expensive lunch dude what is he gonna tell you nothing nothing Tim tell me I mean you can maybe pitch him ideas and he's gonna say some rev-share here no he's gonna take your idea because you're gonna sign a contract signed a piece of paper and then he's gonna be like thanks that's what I needed he's not gonna tell you anything in fact he'll probably like spend the first 20 minutes asking about you and you'll be like so excited that you wanted Oh Tim Cook's talking to me about me yeah he cares about me by the time you start talking about apple stuff the lunch is over we should be like sorry we can't talk about half of the time he's gonna be chewing so like he's gonna be taken like totally milking it right like oh yeah oh yeah you know he's gonna take he's gonna take a simple our way this is really good Apple water really melt that melt that lunch out good Apple burrito anyways 200k I predict because of how it's been decreasing each year that in like 10 more years he'll have to pay us to get lunch with him huh that's if he's still CEO Wow I'm just saying minimum minimum next bid 100 $15,000 everybody jump on that get on it all right do you want to take phone calls today yeah let's do some phone calls we gotta gotta come today remember guys and gals a 1-800 61 62 63 8 that's how you be a part of the show welcome to party be part of apple byte nation we love it with only in the party first call Brooks in my native land texas here's mr. Brooks hey this is Brooks I'm from Dallas Texas and I would just like to say what are your thoughts on in fun durable displays that they sell do you think they're ever going to upgrade them do you think they're going to eventually make them into 5k screens for so you can hook up your macbook pro to a thunderbolt display do you think they're going to update it thanks love the show by sorry to be honest with you I actually don't know and I'm leaning towards them probably not updating them but if we do see anything it will be at WWDC that's typically when they put some of the more big bar hardware we don't see any key notes that are specifically for just a mac pro so it might be thrown in there at WWDC we know that macbook pros will be make an appearance in they support Thunderbolt the fact of the matter is you can find 5k displays that work with your Mac today that are third-party Mac third-party displays already oh yeah so I mean I would have thought they would have put out something within the past year or two they still haven't my hunch is that they I know the imac has a 5k screen in it but it clearly doesn't seem like they really care or they're looking to pursue that in with their focus on so many other products yeah I I could be wrong but I don't see it I don't see it happening I think all you have to do is just go third party now it definitely feels like its last on their list feel like it's been three or four years since they released since our last display quite honestly yeah yeah it's been a long time okay next call is from mr. Jordan Richards alden richards jordan high burn hey Stevens Jordan Richards t from Adelaide Australia I'm just wondering since I will release the macbook last year and again update that this year i'm wondering if you didn't get all i can be changing all the bit ports on all their macs and iphones ipads etc to us bc um so yeah thanks once a coupon app abiding us bc us bc so we know that the latest 12 inch macbook has only one single port it's probably the biggest drawback of that because it only has one single port i would be really surprised if they took the proline and put one single port on it if you're just asking specifically about us bc they will have a USBC port in there but I've got imagine they've got to keep other ports on there it it doesn't make sense for them to just completely take it all away yeah it would be way less pro if you don't have us bc on there i believe yeah so i think they would do a myth I think they've got to do a combination of ports and it won't just be us bc on that machine we will find out in June I mean they decided to be bold with that macbook 12-inch design but then that 12 inch design has been around for about a year I feel like that's the one that they're trying to be the most minimalist it doesn't serve them well for their customer base to now make a pro computer a minimalist computer that's all that's it for day that's all for today folks good that's good so um just again you know thanks so much for hanging out with us is a polite extra crunchy every week more much more crunch episode 34 is in the can we will be back here next week talking to you live or you know in audio format and are you gonna be here next week Stephen I'll be here I think yeah I'll be here too man yeah what is next week is there anything special happening our show our show special cool all right everybody will see you guys next week thanks so much for listening peace you