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good morning everybody it's time for yet another edition episode 215 of the 359 podcast and boy howdy do we have a question for you today my name is bvg and in the house we have Roger Cheng and Alfred and guys what are we talking about today we're gonna be talking about the NES classic and how you soon won't be able get one but today there is a shot if you're our best buy theoretically and willing to punch people yeah elbow people out of the way take your shot a day that's it so we were talking the idea is classic I will be talking about our colleague Scott Stein story on what he would like to see SNES classic the rumored you know update for the layer this year and lastly we'll talk a little bit about the March for science event this past Saturday helped across cities all over the world honestly if they don't make an SNES classic that would just be really stupid of Nintendo I know it's like just it's just they're just leaving money on the table here zal Ison's to print money yep yep here we go hopefully they make more just skip the insects just go straight to the gamecube classic i want no he mastered no no no I want the SNES classic that's that would be the main console I'd like nobody likes the gamecube like i was really surprised to find out how this like the gamecube was with like it's like but I thought an incredible game maybe I'm wrong here but you're probably not generation we grew up with it well I grew up with the n64 okay and I still thought the gamecube was better that which is I'm gonna get a lot of hate comments actually there are there are no games on the Gamecube that I really remember like I was a little bit older at that I was like I think was a college at that point there's super smash brothers there's mario kart double dash there's a wind waker like like legend of zelda their data for the post-show okay let's let's get started I'll give any questions as always live in the comments section Brian will pick up the best we will get to them to three minutes and 59 seconds mario sunshine that up three do welcome to 315 I'm Roger Cheng I'm Alfred aying the NES classic is here but not for much longer best buy tweed that limited quantities would be available today Alfred if you only need to take a field trip to best boy absolutely not I made my own NES classic with a raspberry pi like the day they announced it does it there you go but I can see a lot of people that will be rushing down to bestbuy to grab one it's a huge my you imagine riots breaking up for an NES classic not riots I don't think it's like a like friday love if they were free maybe I mean but I mean bridge you can't get them soon I mean it this is it like that Nintendo's already just continue these things so that's the thing that supply yeah if you want to make like a serious investment honestly like to buy this for 60 bucks and then they're gonna be out of sale very soon right and then like they're going for like 300 to 500 bucks on ebay if anything that's like that's the way to go uh yeah what is to buy them on ebay from know who sells alimony oh yeah that's the only reason why I would rush to a best buy right now but that you know what full of the game yeah no no you really love them you would have a like original nes i have one somewhere yeah but it probably doesn't work yeah I've like blowing all the cartridges and like shoved it in the wrong way and that's that's something original to me time original nes azhar like super cheap on ebay too it's the games that are hard to get there you go yeah alright so next up on a related note our colleague Scott Steiner out a story last week basically looking at what he would like to see in an SNES classic that is the rumor next console that Nintendo is going to put out later this year and frankly if they don't do it they're stupid yes it's a pretty much a license to print money yeah this is a this it's got like the nintendo tons of classic games a what game would you want to see on the antenna yes NBA jam that's the thing the so with the nes class like most of it I mean was like Nintendo branded games yes and with the SNES it's a little bit different because like a lot of their classic games aren't like straight from Nintendo true you take a look at a game like Chrono Trigger or you know NBA jam ninja turtles turtles in time for yes these are none of these are all of these are classic SNES games but none of them are like outside Nintendo Chrono Trigger and actually well Street Fighter obviously yes another capcom game and was actually x-men I think his x-men x-men vs sri fighter no Xmen apocalypse afoul yeah this after terrible movie but the I'd school game was kind of awesome but I spent a lot to play that I would love to see Scott bow talks a bit about not the games but the features that he wants to see you know while they were pretty make a lot of sense right make the controls wireless those NES classic controllers controllers insanely short they made no sense I couldn't even wear them as a necklace include two controllers in the box i would pay extra for two controllers right on the box I include the nes midi inside he talked about this idea of this Russian nesting doll strategy where you had like one system with another system kind of like a backwards compatibility yes exactly keep using industry standard cables at the hdmi and USB up we'll see cross by download codes for the nintendo switch and lastly make enough of them that should have been first that should have been easily first like we just talked about the limited supply of NL you know i think you wanted to end on a high note yeah but yeah I mean what I'd love to hear what viewers would want to see him from the Super NES classic what games would you want to see I lastly really quickly March for science event was this Saturday folks around the world went to demonstrate you know science their love of science obviously this year's event was a little bit more politically tinged with a lot of people thinking about Donald Trump you actually rented two one yeah I passed by the one in Washington DC I was like making a pit stop there I'm coming back from North Carolina um I it's just interesting me that like we actually have to protest this you know like believe in facts that's such a weird like this is the world that we live in now happy to be fair they're not necessary protesting yes like better they're basically it's show support yeah rich it's still weird to me like science is just something you should believe in it just doesn't make any sense there's this sax and studies and in this engage you can't take that for crying when T 17 alright for more of these stories check us out and seen it I brought your Chang I'm out for dang thanks real estate oh we have some good stuff going on in the head all right a suggestion from the noid screw the nes just build a raspberry pi true lezzie that's exactly what I've seen it has a guide for how to build a NES out of raspberry pi dan graziano she wrote that up uh yeah that was in 2014 before the interest classic we haven't announced and it's actually even easier now to build one because before you actually had to go in and like put all these like lines yep and but now it's literally like you just put it on like a micro SD card and then you put it in your Raspberry Pi oh really it's yeah I'm out it's so fun i do you have one yes I brought it on my like vacation trip just because I'm like this all were doing nice Matthew in the chat is on fire people at Nintendo need to be slapped does Nintendo care nothing about more care nothing about milking us for money full disclosure the gamecube was the first console ever bought I left gamecube yes is a great console as I liked how you get carrying around its cubicle lunch box it's lunch box yeah i don't know i still have a gamecube do you really got me working i I just I use a wii i sold my kia koup to get money because it's backwards compatible but it does not look as beautiful as the game team does truth yeah well well you were listing games earlier yes as we were dragging out the intro yes what other what games well i enlisted super smash brothers melee first because that's the horse easily the best game um and to get an HD remake of that would be incredible right just because like everyone's like still playing and like doing all these like big tournaments like on a game that came out like more like 10 years ago when she'll play that term yes yeah it's still the most popular one over brawl over all the rest yeah and the thing is because it's like all these other get like their sequels that just never matched up to it I competitively they were as good but they look at melee as the one that really set the standard yeah it's the original smash bros was awesome yeah and then they perfected the formula with male it's like how people still play like street fighter third strike even though like true fighter for street fighter 5 like all came out right right i mean it moved to street fighter 4 for a little bit now people are moving back from street fighter 5 because it's like doesn't have that same like competitive edge that the other ones had but for a while like Street Fighter third strike was like the most like competitive 1 i'll be honest i like after street flair to after the many many many versions 340 like hunted to now that series turbo edition champion today at alpha high position yeah hyper fighter game and TV throwing throwing a little shade in the chat I would pretend what would I do for a Nintendo classic I would pretend the Nintendo switch it's powerful enough to handle Triple A games oh wow ouch more than breath the walls a triple a gay it is yeah ran it doesn't we're just off to a slow start we got to give it some time yeah it sometime um here we go uh be Josh not a thing I don't know why everyone is freaking out about it I'd rather buy the real nes console for way less well we were talking about exactly what i sat on the podcast like I mean look can you really want to go through the time to buy all these things and then dig for all the games or kinda nice to have it's it's all about the annotation I mean that's why it's done so well right because it's a cute little things like yeah it's kind of it's a nice novel to you to have and it's got a bunch of your favorite games bundled in so it's really easy to just sort of have this one little thing yeah I mean a bomb yeah exactly like most of them most of the hype around is like oh I remember that and then it's just you know I feel like it's like parents that want it it's tiny oh yeah yeah like underestimate that factor like it's the cute little console there enough like to get hardcore fan I just feel like installed you get the feeling a lot of the buyers are just like parents i want to show their kids like what they grew up playing but also don't want to show them like all the troubles that came with it cuz like imagine like showing your kid like a like a nes i was like and then when it didn't work you have to just blow into it writing really long time and sometimes it still did well we didn't just blow on it like art or system we actually had to put like weights to push it down further so we would like read with them exactly yeah whole messy complicated the drop-down store was all a publicity stunt that was there trying to make an interactive toy right yeah more than anything else but it was a mechanical it was a flawed feature yeah yeah but also but back to Scotts point though like I think the NES classic could have been improved and so many ways which I hope they do with they with the super I really hope they take the les hace for that like people would pay up for that for those features wireless controllers having two on the box right just these little things kind of make all the difference like there were the NES classic was a smart idea they're just execution why they just kind of like go figure i mean stout when you when you were talking about like what would you do for an nes classic though like did you actually want one or yes I mean now that I know there's an SNES classic coming and kinda don't want one as much but like when I first came out like that's yeah sweet I didn't know how limited the supplies were when they first announced it I wide one but like it was more like I kept sending links to it to my girlfriend's like hey you know Christmas coming up check this out by the way no no my wife was actually thinking about doing like getting me one the last min I kind of went like like knowing that she'd have to like run around yep finding one like would be such a pain dad yeah I just told her like that's actually worry about it when I built my like in 10 raspberry pi 1 because it was during Christmas break and then there's a acknowledgement that I don't actually ever play games anymore so yeah or watch TV I mean I don't play games I didn't play games everyone until I built that thing it's like so I mean just like so would you just plug into your TV like at the hotel yes i get hdmi it's like an hdmi cable and then you bought two while it's like they're part of control no you can get like us be super nintendo controllers oh you can't yeah and then you can assign the keys to like got it by whatever they're not officially made by in ten dollars but which I've it I have one they should do I actually have a nintendo 64 USB cable that i was using for roms for a while oh um hey back to the chat gaming TV just lighten it up if Nintendo wanted to they could easily patch in the eShop make us buy any ask digitally for five bucks that's a good point they don't think that that way yeah I sell they sell old library of games you can do that in your 3ds but they could have just made that a single package and like bypass the hardware debacle that they went through well that's the thing though is that that's like the nostalgia factor right that is the cell point I got the box again yeah was what also like like I thought about everyone's buying the switch right yeah through there's there's a guy think feel like there's a different audience they buying the classic versus this way yeah they've been selling like old nes and nintendo n64 games a really long time the issue is that like it doesn't have a nostalgia factor of hey look it's like the tiny little NES again and I got the little controller my head like out the value of that yeah this is a client console I was playing like sonic on my 3ds it just doesn't feel the same as like roller but not everybody relies on that hardware experience not everyone grew up with the you know the little rectangle yeah controller I mean he's pointing out gaming TV again if it was a digital purchase he would actually want the nes classic uh not only would have support Nintendo would keep people from pirating it but that that's it and then tell make it easy for us yes I save you some money yeah stop giving us reasons to get a month es classic they made it hard like they just didn't make enough of it they made it this this tour to go on by the Palmer like I told my wife like don't worry about it yeah yeah I'm pretty sure on Amazon like the moment it was available for pre-order was like it done yeah this is the same thing with the Nintendo switch they have problems with that with like yep supply also uh Matthew says I think NES classic is a marketing disaster for toying with our feelings I don't think it's a marketing disaster for that I don't know like the depend on how it turns out talking about it there villain for toying with her yeah but like that's that's Nintendo's lagging is twisting their mustache if anything I just think it's terrible that they like discontinued it like why create something like so like you know want it and there's they go see you later that is the big question mark is what like they've got a hit on their hands why not double down why are you pulling back on this I don't know that I spiritually theories always range from like this was just a marketing stunt they were actually losing money on things weren't they weren't and then the other thing too is like we interviewed how did well how do you know that they weren't they say that was that they were they know they were making money off of that they were yeah how do you know I thought they mentioned in like a bunch of interviews anything I mean like I we interviewed um Reggie like right a few months ago and he was talking about how they were gonna make more Nintendo closet and then I mean they did yeah yeah they did for shorts second yeah adopt ya feel like something went bad behind the scenes there they just had to pull the ripcord I don't think they planned it like that I mean in my pen own one of these yeah one of these days we're gonna get like the I'd store the NES classic it'll be that they could no biggie tail behind the console yeah exactly all right let's talk about some of the games on the wish list gaming TV says NBA Jam a degenerate game that's that's great game I mean I had it on my phone he's eating up yep he's on fur I lost by one point last week it's very disappointing did you play the HD remake they made out of that I played on the Raspberry Pi right right but have you tried the bag doesn't like they've got a Baba you got basically like everybody yeah yeah it was a little too kitschy I mean it was kind of fun yeah I'm so trying to find the hack like some guy like Mata did so that like there was Obama and then Harambee was also a player yeah no that's the one that does a lot yeah cuz they did like an HD remake for like PlayStation 4 like Xbox okay okay live Margot gaming TV says Mega Man X ever heard of it yes great game no game not very fun for multiplayer but you bet I series took a nosedive but bring back the og yeah yeah all that into what we spoke a lot about the third-party titles but the first party ones were great like nintendo super mario world yoshi island the island Zelda uh I mean that's its link to the past right yeah I wasn't really a fan of Zelda games until I got through I mean I played Minish Cap a lot on like Game Boy Advance mm-hmm there we go yeah my favorite part of the gamecube was Metroid Prime easily I still go back yeah that's the one I'd always can go back to bridging off going into more Super Nintendo wish list illusion of Gaia super metroid final fantasy 3 Chrono Trigger final flight three turtles in time yes yeah yeah how many of those are from Nintendo how many how many of the wish list from that people have been saying our games from Nintendo that's the thing we're super metroid and yeah yeah that's about it actually but that's the issue is that like a lot of like the SNES classics are like not from Nintendo yeah nes classic um associative to italy vs classic the game break down there are still a good noise or third party yeah they were able to get them yeah the thing is that like a majority of them were still like true you have to wonder the next is that the lysis those games yeah Capcom's in all kinds of weird territories yeah aquin square enix with still Squaresoft you almost like synonymous with Nintendo yeah like I'm willing to bet that like Chrono Trigger is not going to be on the Super Nintendo so now so be harder it'll be about something yeah yeah take a look at like the NES classic games and just like how like they're like short like they're like games for your iphone where they're like really quick you can just like play casually way to like they're not gonna put chrono trigger on that that's like a whole like thing it's like a whole storyline and like all these I don't know what to do do two different versions SNES long Phineas classic casual as any of our classic uh elite ooh I like that let like like NBA Jam makes the most sense like a short thing you pick up you play with all right like chrono triggers like a whole storyline and is like you can play it over and over again you biker trigger on iOS yes you can actually yeah it's like ten bucks yep uh I love this VIN draken says I would tattoo seen its logo for an NES or SNES classic and film the progress Wow we have one of those we cannot condone that no we have an NES class you have a meetin we're not condoning that where is he getting it tattooed we're not condoning that I'm with Brian on this one sorry Ben well I love the dedication though so to bring a full circle and wrap it up Matthew wants us to speculate as to if we have any clue why Nintendo did such a limited run we just started kind of brushing on this a few minutes ago but let why why would they I think I think they either ran out of supplies or just got somewhere in the hole and just like I said had to pull the ripcord I think it was not planned I don't think they decided like we're going to just dangle this carrot I don't think it could be in the hole votes and such high demand how is that even possible I think maybe some of the hardware that they were using hardware distribution I think actually the more expensive factory will be licensing costs yeah yeah I mean paying those third-party publishers to actually care the games maybe that maybe that I feel like they were those guys saw what was they saw the demand is they want to reup I don't know how worse like up the contract negotiations but imagine the cost has to be a factor here because they if it's in demand like it is now to pull away from this I me there has to be some sort of reason has come down to money yeah and there's a lot of people in the chat discussing about how they're resistant to outside help and so on and so forth from like the third party licensing so they've always been on this weird little island just like when they resistant to putting anything on iOS and mobile and that's just Nintendo for you I'm literally and figuratively on the island yep one more thing to speculate on do we think they're gonna continue with this trend I would love to see an n64 classic yeah I would like to see other manufacturers jump on this train a ps1 classic and so to speak oh yeah yeah Sega's kind of already done it but it was through third-party you can get this like Genesis rehash out there in a similar for you were you able to not Saturn but to further Genesis rehash like you still do pilot games for it right or was it like preloaded with game they had one of each they did have one that had pre-loaded games that one that was open to you could actually put ya roms on an SD card and I think they had one they had a bunch under the hood yeah 30 on board yeah and then Sega actually I was like sold the rights that to like a lot of third party like manufacturers like I was in like a Duane Reade and I saw like one of those like oh yeah I've got one yeah little it's a at games i think its manufacture and it's a little portable system it looks nothing like sake has ever made in his past but I threw an SD card on there with like 60 games and I'm good to go yeah Wow nice sega does that'll like they sold the rights i know i would absolutely love to see like a whole so retro you know it's also return of all these systems but I mean they never really went away yeah it's that one of those things where the nostalgia holds tighter than the new as we keep seeing over and over again now granted they're not to say there aren't people who are religiously standing in line for that new system yep but we all can always speak fondly about like I've cut my dreamcast to my gamecube alive those are my Tim favorites the my biggest regret getting rid of my Genesis I just feel like they should just remake those games for like newer consoles like as like an HD remake for super smash brothers I'm even care about the HD just put them keep putting everything stopped being picky stop being choosy put it all back up on the air in the store I'm saying like I'm not like really like buying is a little like hardware thing whereas I all we need to make a specific console just for this like just make like what pokemon does when they like remake like from red to fire red right from like pokemon gold to like heartgold where it's like a much better game and they improved on all the flaws from like the original game but it still got like that like nostalgia factor to it just make make it a better game and make it on something that I already own and can play it on but how much does it matter to you to maintain that feel like when getting an NES classic and get that controller then everything just feels right I definitely said about that that bundle of gay because you can get keep getting those like classic collection discs you can buy it sort of like 15 bucks you know I've got the Sonic Mega Collection and I game key right going back and back and back dating the hell out of myself but uh yeah I mean those are okay yeah they've run fine but is it the Symon yeah if you want that like to be taken back in time like I go ahead but I don't know I'm just not really into the whole like oh it needs to be precisely all these things for like the right like thing I played chrono trigger on my phone like it's obviously not the same but like their mother would translate to the phone for ya but ya is for me it's more about like the experience of the gameplay then you know oh I'm not playing it on a heads isn't sticky enough ya feel right yeah alright that's a good place all right yep let's uh let's wrap things up we can ramble about games all day I know alright if you liked anything you saw or heard here check us out on cnet our podcast also available on itunes tune in stitcher SoundCloud feedburner and google play music we'll see y'all tomorrow thanks y'all you