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What's Apple's real reason for delaying its AirPods? (Apple Byte Extra Crunchy, Ep. 66)

2016-12-09
we're live from the giant bump giant bomb podcast studio in san francisco california on the first floor about the sixth floor like we're used to first it's the apple byte extra crunchy podcast with your host mr. brian Tong what's up everybody welcome to the show it is episode 66 on the apple buy extra crunchy bringing all that munchy again this is our complimentary show to the actual apple byte video podcast is about a five minute weekly show this is where we dig into it we unearth news stories that have happened because it in a couple days it things change and we find out more details so again everyone continues to call in we love our calls we're working on even like a Skype video voice oh yeah I set that up you are setting it up so we're gonna promote so search us on skype apple byte extra crunchy leave us a video message oh my gosh and why not keep your pants on please keep your pants looks from just just to help Steven out he's the one that's gonna vet this stuff keep your pants on yeah I mean or no yes okay it's optional actually I could be very entertaining for me pants on the ground pants on the ground lookin like a fool with your pants on the ground if you know if you know what that is from do you remember that's wrong it's like it's no Eric an idol is a Maryland it was American Idol guy okay what's way back from way back I gotta shout out that America's Got Talent those American I don't actually remember that that that's that's it's what everyone knows what that really covers us a long time ago yeah there's tons of stuff so again i forgot the number 1 806 162 638 is the number you guys can leave your name where you're from again we're getting great calls try and keep him around 30 to 40 seconds and not a minute we got we had like how many we have you people doing like over a minute like three or four calls that are over a minute like we've got love for you you guys make great points but a minute is too long we're the only ones that are allowed to talk more than a minute yeah we want to put those on the air but that's just like people are gonna fall asleep I'm awake I'm awake I'm totally wake up wake up wake up wake up let's get to the first story of the show it's the first of the show air pods delay potentially attributed to multiple reasons this is a report that just dropped from Wall Street Journal talking about what is taking the air pod so long we have speculated we have gone back and forth now there is not an exact reason for the delay but here's the details according to The Wall Street Journal a person familiar with the development of the air pods say that trouble appears to stem from Apple's effort to chart this new path for wireless headphones in most other wireless headphones only one earpiece receives a signal from the phone via wireless Bluetooth technology it then transmitted that signal to the other ear piece Apple decided to do it differently Apple has said the air products earpieces each receive independent signals from an iphone Mac or other Apple device but Apple must ensure that both earpieces receive the audio exactly at the same time to avoid any of the distortion and the person familiar with their development this is according to The Wall Street Journal again said that Apple must also resolve what happens when a user loses one of the earpieces or if the battery dies right so we have two individual pieces getting two individual signals syncing them up together as well as what happens when you lose one of these earpieces now another nugget from this article also detailed another aspect of some of the difficulty they might be facing with these air pods and why again this is a delay that we still don't expect to see any time you know coming to us anytime soon other wireless headphones work well indoors where a Bluetooth signal can be contained but in the article they talk about how they struggle to deliver similar sound performance outdoors so we're signals can bounce off of nearby objects a bluetooth expert basically said when you're outdoors this is going to be different so that's also one of the aspects of why this might be difficult they work well indoors but a Bluetooth signal where when that can be contained but outdoors it's a little trickier that's crazy so phasing could also be a problem too if you're getting like a signal like a slightly different times like the music could probably be out of phase and there's so many I didn't even think about all the problems that could arise from this but that's pretty sad that that hahaha that whole issue of you know again like I talked about the chip inside those headphones in what it can do it's pretty amazing to me from a technology standpoint but it sounds like remember this w one ship that is part of the air pods is kind of an additional chip that is a compliment to the Bluetooth and now they're also trying to split the bluetooth at least that we know that is that i was talking my ears home yeah I have it like okay underneath a little tiny bit but again it's one of those things where this just this shows you how hard this stuff is hell yeah and to be I'm not making excuses because I'm the number one critic against the air pods if anyone watches this they know that but it just shows house difficulty stuff can be based on this report I don't expect to see us seen them by the end of the year right it's what it's almost mid to sem burr yeah even if they shipped next week it's gonna take another week for them to get here and then to get on shelves I almost feel like they would have to do like a another press conference just to be like we got the air pods working guys for Christmas but it's not gonna happen don't you think they should just hold off and wait till next year yeah for sure get it right which is what they said they have done they're making sure that they're ready to roll they're not gonna give us an unfinished product and I think it's a good thing that they're thinking about it this way but I think it's a huge mistake when they laid out the roadmap of a wireless future and shoved it down our throat and the key component to make this wireless future work isn't even available and now we can't get periscope connected yeah mixing board thank you iphone 7 because of a dongle so periscope would have been tight we would have been able to give voice via our voicemails directly to our scope errs listening live but that won't happen so we'll wait and see how this all plays out again we have what CES consumer electronics show las vegas coming out in january typically apples very hush-hush mom during that time these days in the past they tried to upstage a CES a lot yeah they I it was a few years ago when CES everyone's time about what's going to happen there and then Apple unveiled I believe the first iPad like the week after CES and all people are talking about is what is the ipad going to be like this is years ago where Apple still had that lab Ridge right of something new that's not the case as much anymore yeah so well or not they're not even at CES anymore right now David yeah they've never don't even they've never been there yeah even when it was Comdex a back in the day when a Sinbad would be the host of Comdex I'm serious sinbad the comedian your your ambassador for consumer electronics totally during his heyday all right let's keep on moving along with the show this story I find to be pretty fascinating and really interesting we know that Apple has completely dropped the ball when it comes to the TV subscription service that again look I don't hate Apple but they they just they mean to step their game up this year's been probably making some mistakes this is yours probably been one of the roughest years in my that I can remember from a standpoint of Apple really losing its perception as being the innovator yeah this your specific yeah yeah 2016 was definitely a down year for a lot of things Apple are you gonna get me to press about just life in 20 16 2016 you cuz I you like why it's like a few 2016 I right after this okay but according to this report from Bloomberg Apple is pressing Hollywood studios for earlier access to movies that would be awesome according to people knowledge of the matter a move that would bolster the company's itunes business so check this out Apple is talking to multiple studios 20 20 Century Fox is one of them time warner Warner Brothers and Comcast corporations universal pictures they have all confirmed in the past week that they are looking to offer higher priced home video rentals of new movies shortly after they opened in theaters and what is the time frame we're talking about according to the report we're talking about being able to potentially this is not set in stone yet potentially watch a movie that has been released in theaters two weeks after their debut I am so on board with that I'm totally on board that because sometimes going in theater is just you know it's not fun hey there there's been plenty of times where I was like oh how about this yeah view ever I don't do it as much but have you ever gone to a movie theater and just you're like man I could've watch this one at home totally oh there's a lot of movies like that I me you have kids something like uh we just watch like cars 3 is coming out let's just watch cars to be at home we don't go to movie theaters but I mean also you just don't want people like coughing on you and like maybe someone's talking in front of you texting what about the nervous leg what about the nervous leg behind you that shaking your chair have you ever had that I haven't I'm nervous leg dude you do the half look dude you do like a full lid I literally yelled through the gap please stop shaking your leg yeah after I can't take any more yeah the only real I kicking my chair please I'm like I'm like shaking my leg into my chair right now you you you can feel it there's there's times where movie it's cool to go see a movie in the theater and it's okay like Star Wars like everyone's cheering and like having a great time you know but if you're going to see like a really like movie that you're they've to pay attention to pay attention to and like you know you're excited to see it I'd probably want to watch it at home stringent on periscope is what about have to go to the bathroom during an important time in the movie so true okay so let me ask you this Beach uh what how much would you and I don't want you to read article so don't look at it how much would you be willing to pay to see a movie two weeks after its debut it would be one price it the assumption is you'd probably be paying more because they assume that more than one person is going to watch it as well yeah in that household yes how what what would be lets say the low end and the high end that you'd be willing to pay I i would say between fifteen and twenty dollars okay homie a single ticket for imax like 20 bucks dude i know but that's imax okay but your whole for like a regular movie ok let me probably like ten dollars a ticket now these days right oh no it's more than that it's bad i haven't been to a movie since i don't even remember how about how was our star wars what if i told you like 11 to 12 bucks for a matinee these days alright that's that's expensive right yeah yeah that is expensive for a matinee just for a mat for matinee remember when Matt names like five bucks yeah for four bucks yeah oh my gosh I could take a hell of girls to like back-to-back matinees as I easy I'll meet you there oh I'll jump theaters to see another movie and only pay four bucks for two dates yeah I mean to two weeks after the movie comes out if you're still excited about it I'm fifteen to twenty dollars from me I right home according to the report studios and Apple are talking about a price ranging between twenty-five to fifty dollars come on come on I see I'm okay with that I'm okay okay with that I am okay with that I don't know oh you wait you you at you and your lady and your two kids straight up if you went to theatre that would at least cost you at least 50 GST but you're right it would cost that much I'm just saying and again you're seeing this at home two weeks after releases in the theater yeah you know toffee I mean you can like buy the DVD like six months later saying like I'm gonna pay that much and then I want to buy the blu-ray the 4k version with the 3d all that anyways up this people with knowledge of this say the possibility is very real in fact they feel like a deal like this is likely to happen within the next 18 months Wow I mean they kind of similarly kind of did something similar with Michael Moore's film and Trump land or something that's directly on iTunes right directly to iTunes film and it was five dollars well I didn't even I didn't want to watch that I was like five bucks no way all the way till netflix puts us on I wait till netflix yeah I which I was curious you know I thought it was like one of his documentaries where he goes around and like interviews people but he was like on a stage in some place so I didn't want to buy it but five bucks always even like yeah people are talking about also the food costs we will move on to the next story but i think is that I think that everyone has an opinion about movie so much you're willing to food costs is like poem aria no like you want the popcorn you want the Raisinets well that's that's the bomb bonds the Baba's do it bottom I like that movie there's like like I'm gonna like an elbow there it melts in there gets all oh yeah I'm a hot tamale guy and get the hub a police yeah yeah Reese's Pieces seriously if I'm a young person today I don't even know how i even get enough money to take a girl out to a movie like that oh true I got young kid in junior high or high school I take some lady out on a date yeah uh yeah let's just not do that let's just not watch movies I can find a lot of more fun things to do that are cheaper than that yeah haha freaky deaky anyway so we'll see how this happens but I think what this may special for Apple is that they need something some differentiator at least from a standpoint of streaming content we know netflix has binge-watching we know that other companies have TV streaming services why not be the first company to be able to watch movies early from home a lot of people have pretty dang good setups at home now for movies yeah like you can get like a 4k TV for like around thousand bucks and a surround sound system in a smaller room that sounds adequate again it's not going to be a movie there around like 300 bucks what's your in your house you're in your pajamas you're Jimmy guy you gotta get all cuddly we're eating together oh yeah be like flirting cupcake you little bit you know what happens I mean but twenty fifty dollars I'm not gonna do that do imagine I to the hashtag hashtag itunes in chill itunes and chill okay what do you guys think about the Apple watch where you out with that Beecham you know i mean if if i get one for christmas i'm not gonna be mad i'm gonna be stoked Makka am I gonna go buy 1 i'm not gonna go buy the new one at least because it's too expensive right now Tim Cook just rips old and responded to an email from Reuters in which he you know wanted to Pat himself on the back and so that this was apples best-performing holiday week ever in regards to sales of the Apple watch now this is a follow up after report from IDC a research forum that sorry research firm not form come on sometimes we're talking for an extended period of time sometimes I make mistakes with my words where the research firm said that the tech giant sold roughly 1.1 million units of the Apple watch during the third quarter of two thousand sixteen if you match that to last year though it's a 71 percent decline from the year-ago quarter 71 percent that's big that's huge we've that's a giant fall off Wow research has shown how just wearables in general have pretty much dropped like a cliff but I do believe that this might have been apples best sales week I personally felt this was the best time ever to buy an Apple watch for these reasons the series one is still out most of you quite honestly don't need a series to with the GPS and the swimming capability the operating system is more than ample the battery life is basically around the same and so if you're gonna buy one I told people that asked me go for a series one watch on a black friday deal that was like thirty dollars cheaper yeah I was like does I'd be like 150 was like a buck fitty right yeah for for an Apple watch why not why not so those are probably people to help bump up those numbers for the totally I Tim Cook also added that it's expected that this will be the best here says quote directly said sales growth is off the charts in fact during the first week of holiday shopping our cell through of Apple watch was greater than any week in the products history and as we expected we're on track for the best quarter ever for Apple watch he did not respond to specific requests for sales figures yeah he just dropped his he just dropped his little talking point there's a red flag there yeah still today Apple has not released the actual sales numbers of the Apple watch they continue to bundle it in with like the Apple TV and the ipod Lord I honestly I really wonder how many ipods are being sold now like that's the ipod touch from like two two and a half years ago that they've never updated the only so I'm everyone just it's just integrated into your phone so we'll see we'll see how it all plays out from Apple this one though this is a good story regarding just apples services the Apple music store or Apple music I shouldn't call it the Apple music store the Apple music service according to billboard has hit 20 million subscribers wow yeah I saw that headline but it's hit that number in a year and a half Wow kidding so this is if you want to give some comparison we know that Spotify is the number one streaming service they have roughly 32 i believe they might have just hit 40 million but they're around 38 to 40 million subscribers someone can correct me on that with spotify again the climate was different but spotify started their service in 2008 to get to 40 million okay so now we're talking about apple music 20 million in a year and a half that's pretty insane so many people are on iTunes like they've been on iTunes we have probably more than 10 years so that makes that makes a lot of sense and and I would recommend people use Apple music / Spotify because apple pays artists more than Spotify does yeah yeah so you know that's my argument I don't use buffer I tried at one time but also my phone just rang in the stream just am I oh no I forgot to turn it on to you like this curb that's a user error oops sorry y'all oops I did it again anyways apple also is responsible for helping watch some of the number one billboard albums of the year Drake's views DJ Khaled's I got the keys keys keys major keys missed that one didn't hear that you haven't heard that song it's very annoying okay let me see what is it whose it is DJ khaled may oh yeah yeah I got the keys keys keys so they have that as well as Frank ocean's blonde so they're really oh and hiss was an apple music exclusive yet started off I'm impressed I am impressed with what they have done again they still have a long ways to catch a spy but look Apple basically just leverage their user base that is so huge Apple music is basically prompted for people to subscribe once they turn on and set up their phone yeah yeah and they have hundreds of millions of users so this number is going to only increase I'm not an apple music subscriber I still not but I have been on the verge of almost being like maybe I should just flip that switch on I'm curious how Apple connect is doing cuz I've only launched that just seemed like it just disappeared you know I don't even know if I still in that I don't even know if it's still me no it is it is it is oh yeah I'm glad they buried cuz I n look at that yeah but I don't that track I don't even look at it it was that point oh this one yeah yeah yeah this will be doing here here's life enjoying this okay now I know ya see ya you the hook is what's really um intoxicating and annoying and then intoxicating and then annoying again it's very it's very nice we also want to talk about Apple's best app of the app store in 2016 I enjoy this they always do this recap at the end of every year where the apps that stand out what do you think the most lemon let me look at this list what was the app that was the most I think what would they call it looking at it no no I don't want to tell you I'm trying not to tell you what do you think was the most surprising they put it on here I can't find it but I know it what was the most surprising app of the year Michigan izing um my swim pro just by lagaa yeah dude it was it's not on this specific list oh it was a it was if I believe correct it was they have it posted on not only I the itunes app store in the app but also on their website it was pokemons go oh yeah yeah yeah that's a phenomena that came out of nowhere huge phenomenon iphone app of the year prisma that's that cool app where you basically take a picture and then it does all this crazy artsy filters not we're not timeout Instagram filters I'm talking about art filters like completely transforming what it looks like prisma totally free I am down with that the iphone game of the year was clash royal i did not play that so many people i always see that in the top of like the favorite itunes you know in the app store yeah hop of the it's always like this one there's another clash game or something like it's always clash of clans yeah clash of the clans that's a big one no it that one that one would never play that hahaha yeah i've got a life hell is that I have got I'll Italy I literally have a life yeah I remember seeing prisma when it first came out a lot of people like posting Instagram on the toppers know kind of like it kind of fell off it always it always does even even Pokemon go that train has fallen off a little bit anyways you can check out the best of the app stores in 16 just really cool stuff they do it for not only the iphone but the ipad and the Apple watch as well I guess I could just be nice and just tell you the ipad a pedir was sketchbook motion it allowed you to basically do animations page by page ipad game of the year was severed Apple TV app of the year was Twitter and they also incorporated i believe the live streaming aspect into it nice an apple TV game of the year Riptide GP looks kind of like that racing game on water Apple watch app of the year was my swim pro I do not believe that that was the Apple watch I'm sorry I the Apple watch series to just came out a couple months ago how was at the app of the year unless they decide maybe they decided and they got they got paid off or something like that Apple watch Game of the Year field day there's so you can just check out that list it's quite it's quite nice just want to point this out real quick that Pokemon go with such a huge hit that starbucks now has starbucks go which life i guess you can catch different latte are you kidding me than enemies so this is going to be in and i did not know about this crap so you could go to starbucks and I guess you order different drafts and could capture them and then collect all the different drink cups or seem like it can you just make me throw up in my mouth and tell me what are the names of some of these drinks I haven't read into it that much but let's see is it like loctite lity Kyo's I think it's just like mocha roki on yeah I think it's just like the regular names of the starbucks drinks you know I don't know I haven't I just saw the headlines with funky no spy so like really vente something or other I don't know Cara rat-tat-tat ml @ @ @ @ she's so stupid crap like that alright just some quick software release updates apples released the iOS 10.2 beta 7 for developers and for the public what makes this interesting is yeah we have all the tweaks like the TV app the new emojis things of that nature but it's expected that the new actual fool 10.2 that will be available for consumers regular consumers like units that haven't you mean that haven't signed up yet would be rolling out sometime potent even sometime next week is that the rumblings are saying apples also seeded the sixth beta for mac OS Sierra or what we'd like to call come on stay with me Michael's see ya beta to developers and public beta testers as well and then let's just wrap this up have a little fun story we talked about games Pokemon go so popular without Mario I'm down I'm what about Super Mario run ok it's expected to drop it will drop not expected Friday December the 15th if you haven't circled your calendars we know that there's going to be a free version but then basically you pay ten dollars to unlock all the modes but here's another tidbit you might not know about the game oh we got it our team in New York got actually play with it the key thing about it is it's one-handed you so you can do other things with your other hand that's why it's just a tap thing Mario actually had runs on his own automatically yeah you're just yours tap tap yeah when I saw that I was kind of bummed out about that actually be kind of cool if they're just like little couple buttons you know but then you can use one in you how am I gonna show you know I gonna hold your kid and then play with Super Mario at the same time now am I gonna shoot fireballs at you know they're thinking of your honor plans I don't know if you can are there fireballs in the game I don't even I don't know I don't even know that anyone would be cool cuz that's what I you know that's classic Mario yo Mario ice balls oh yeah oh yeah that's Mario to me yeah Nintendo's Super Mario run for the iphone though will require a persistent internet connection for play ouch so it's going to use data according to this report and according to Nintendo directly the Mario creator Shigure Shigeru Miyamoto amazing incredible genius he spoke about the decision to require a constant internet connection he says he wanted to be able to leverage that network connection with all three of the different modes to keep all the modes functioning together and offering the game in a way that keeps the software secure they said one of the things as they were worried about piracy and people trying to hack into the game that's also why he said that they launched it on iOS first remember we talked about why people develop on iOS first versus Android secure a tie part of it really more like they just whole bunch of phones solely right and people buy stuff the internet connection though will consume 75 Meg's megabytes per hour or less over your wireless connection hmmm not the end of the world that's not too bad seventy five megabytes of data that's for constant involved play I'm just gonna say right now I don't know how many people are getting playing Super Mario run for an hour straight I don't is that it does that feel like the type of game you can play for an hour straight have you played a game on an iphone for an hour straight now you have to really have some really powerful I SEPs do that I mean I cept later I do I did used to play words with friends for a long time like on a car on a on a ride to work standing in the bus but if we can't do that we now have a Wi-Fi connection what kind of met but an hour dude an hour I didn't I didn't play Angry Birds for an hour I never played fruit ninja for an hour what were some of those other hot games you remember doodle jump dude you're ever doodle jump game was sick remember drawing with friends or what was it called yeah raw with one of us it's not was not work with friends what was it called I'll draw something draw something that's a yes they were purchased for like a billion dollars and then completely dissolved and beard the people who basically made a look just make a ripoff of classic games put them on a phone and get bought out and then enjoy life I'm working on do pref REO hahaha it's like a little you perf REO none do perf re oh yeah cool game a little dirty runs breaks things with his head did i do perf REO none i'm totally done with that that sounds awesome should we get to our voicemails yeah let's do some voicemail all right let's hear what you all have to say again you guys and gals can call us at one eight hundred 61 62 63 eight and to be a part of the show we thank you so much for helping us out and making the show pop cool all right number one hey Brian it's me Jade and I called in for the the macbook pro coverage as you remember me but oh we remember you want to know what size do things better for middle school child 15 inch or 13 inch okay see ya bye what do you think well if you're a junior high in middle or middle school let's not say junior high because there is that there is a difference middle school 678 junior high of 78 I that's the rest want to make sure we all love this 678 ok yeah 67 it right yeah that's right yeah so let's just get that fact out of the right and also can I just point out he said the child young man can you call yourself young man thank you young adult young man young man Jaden come on a 13 inches more than ample but if you rich you could go fifteen i would go 13 algorithm i was rich this is a very heavy 13 is a perfect size you don't need anything larger than that unless you want to press ladies two inches does make a difference next call I next call here we go how's it going this is rhodium and apple certified support professional love the show and I just had a question about the router business that Apple's getting out of I know the last podcast we talked about them having the highest rating but as things are moving towards the Internet of Things and everybody's wanting home Kaname shin and everything why is Apple trying to get out of it when it's where the futures doing possibly maybe an apple TV with an apple Express Express built-in just curious thanks love the show roadie this man knows what he is talking about okay I love a love the call call in any time you'd like please there have been rumors and stories in the past that have linked the fact that Apple's home kit would be potentially linked to the apple TV is kind of the central hub and it would be logical for them to integrate that in some way shape or form and if that's one way that they can focus and make it the bread and butter that is a great idea and a great product at least if you live in the apple ecosystem it's also weird because just this whole home automation thing I'm starting to already feel like whether Apple does an apple TV with this central control they're already kind of behind because I live in an apple ecosystem but I use an Amazon echo to control home stuff I have it controlling my thermostat I have a controlling lights I live in an apartment so I share it but you know I have I set up like basically a faux home like the hallway of my room is the hallway my bedroom is my bedroom my bathroom so it's not like it's a real true house but it's I wanted to really feel what it was like and if I'd actually use it all the time I use it all the time yeah so now that Apple has their access to you know in the new in the latest OS and one of the swiping panels you can connect smart devices really easily because the Amazon echo has done it for me so nicely already I haven't even set it up so I've actually never decided to set up my smart devices even though I can directly do it on my iPhone I just haven't done it and control to Syria I haven't done it hmm yeah I have a couple smart devices to control my lights and there's no sirree support yet so I'm just kind of waiting for that to happen you know and when it when it does quite honestly look at more people are going to most likely have an iphone versus having a amazon echo you know right just in general more people are going to so the faster that Apple gets on this and makes it even more yeah just eat the barrier of entry is already pretty low it's still though like if I told my parents to set up a smart home they'd be like what the hell yeah so well my my dad is pretty savvy I I got him the nest and he's got some other things you know the nest is a good gateway drug into the smartphone for suree yeah yeah cuz you're like what it knows when I'm here it kind of creates a pattern schedule and I can tell it when to go warmer colder okay I'm down with that Yeltsin you get like some lights and then he got into it and then he started like researching like cheaper better ones yeah worth the nato be yeah he's one of us got one for his house now and you know so it's funny to watch that happen yeah so uh love the idea thanks for the thanks for the call yeah i just ordered my echo dot today oh all right next oh hey what's going on Apple biters what's up Brian Beecham this is joe from fountain valley california love the show anyway i just finished the podcast extra crunchy from friday and one thing that nobody was to ever was talk about 14 whole you know the time capsule design council the routers and all that stuff but the one thing nobody really mentioned was what is Apple is trying to get out of the router business only to bolster iCloud backup and get more people to put in revenue towards increasing their capsizes it just makes more sense with snowy phones tablets you know and now I cut itself and your My Documents going to the cloud it just makes more sense to increase the size increase the revenues through that cloud-based time capsule back up and then it is to make hardware from work so that's just my thought I'll see you guys to discuss thanks other guys peace I think it's a really interesting point that you make because also the thing that I have always battled with iCloud storage specifically is whether it's for a phone or even looking to it as the computer and we've seen how Apple is you know really trying to feature it more were you in the latest version of Mac OS Sierra you kind of have this desktop folder that can exist on all of your devices and you can upload things to it right now if you look at the plans of what they have for still iCloud storage plans 50 gigs per month is 90 was it 99 cents per month 200 gigs is 299 one terabyte is 999 two terabytes is 1999 what's gone down yeah it's definitely it definitely has gone down I'm not at the point where i'm willing to it sounds stupid but i'm not at the point where i'm willing to just give all of my files to Apple yeah me neither so I still use a network attached a story you know a hard drive that is my backup which is my time machine where I'm like okay I know myself is there but I haven't relied on that yet now in regards to just the wireless router and the storage and things like that we did it we did forget to mention it because we were asking like because I'm so used to just like connecting a hard drive directly into my computer someone who tweeted me that yes and a network attached storage on your network can also act as the time machine so whether it goes through the airport or not the airport express routers or not airport extreme routers or not it doesn't matter that time machine functionality will still be there as long as you have a network-attached sort so we got that clarify which is good that's why we asked people on the show like uh sometimes we're doing this on the fly we're like wait my brains not working we just don't know it's like every time you plug in a new drive to computer past you it says do you want to make this a time machine thing so yeah it's easy to set up and I never I never do that really I mean I just have like little passport hard drives that just back everything up to every couple months or whatever I don't lose anything knock on wood dude why did you say that why did you say that beat job I don't I don't yeah let's just rewind this and pretend I never said that yeah so I think I think it's a great I don't know how many of you actually would trust storing all of your files on the cloud to Apple I know I wouldn't know I mean I've got some special folders on my computer if you know I'm talking about hiii do I did do like a massive backup of all my photos to Amazon photo well that's okay that's like gives you like free to like a terabyte or some yeah or actually gives you unlimited if you let them resize and that's the only thing that's the only thing yeah when it's specific to maybe a category that you can control or manage a little better although I don't want to know what pictures are on your collection Stephen but like photos is one thing versus your entire computer of files yes that's that's like we're inviting yo yeah and just being able to hand that over and give it to them that that although you know whatever encryption no matter how safe it is there's just something about that that I'm not comfortable with so and I don't think you guys and gals should be comfortable with it either yeah just like the next headline like Apple breached by hackers and la 60 million customers information really you know even even we've seen some of these celebrity hacks where the files were just on their phone what's her name the actress other variety another I forget for Lawrence I think Scala Johansson was on that list and a lot of people that's pictures from iCloud that they had ya and ya habla sh yes yes so am i yeah so if you're feeling comfortable that's why i say i don't feel comfortable completely doing that but photos even with something like the google pixel unlimited photo storage from your phone yeah that's pretty awesome it is awesome it's pretty a lot of companies are doing that to now like dropbox yet but they make you have to resize your photos yeah but that's fine you have the photo yeah not with the Google pixel yo full res baby no not that this is the Apple bite that will stick sorry Austin Apple okay we have one more call hello Brian and Beecham I was wondering if Apple created their own VR headset what would they do to it or what would they add thank you but thank you for the call now just to rewind a little bit we've heard Apple really isn't behind the whole idea of VR they're really high on augmented reality which is a are Tim Cook if you kind of go search up online Tim Cook augmented reality of three or four different occasions he's told that that's really where Apple sees the future because you can still interact with others while getting an overlay of information and stuff and basically still be able to interact with each other socially Wow seen some of these cool things so I really don't think Apple would release a specific virtual reality headset the other indicator of that is we've talked about how virtual reality was one of those big themes in 2016 but kind of some of the latest reports are now questioning is VR a fad was it a dud or is it still have places to grow because heads I don't think it's a dud it just think it's a fat either I think it just hasn't reached its potential because it's still really early yeah you know what I'm saying then people haven't found the killer functionality for I will tell you if you have battlefront on a ps4 they put a rogue one mission and VR on that thing damn Oh like I'm on an x-wing son yeah I'm saying too i try i still like think about the vehicle haha are two outs are two handed me a lightsaber and then i would fought stormtroopers and it was amazing it was like having a real experience in my life no no it was real did what are you talking about if it was totally real i did that but i did that he's asking like what do you think they would add i'm gonna say rumble packs in rubble your face rumble your face what about aware you bring about what about a wearable what about rumble wearables like me neither gonna have it like no not on your wrist row like maybe the Apple watch can be on an elevator so low blow the wrist it Oh rumble Rumble where that would be completely immersive we might we might we might even see that at CES quite honestly oh yeah what was it 50 cent was talking about some like connected underwear when he was there like all is selling I was talking about his underwear that had a pouch to basically cut the stuff so that it wouldn't get sweaty it's actually under attack yeah it's called free go fri geo they're actually out there okay it's like a pouch it's a me called a man apple just i did this just in apple acquired man pouch underwear kidding so but yeah I think like they have like really great vibration technology why not when they put like some vibration on that Rumble where you Rumble really think of anything else all right ladies and gentlemen boys and girls I think that's all our calls right I think yeah that's it okay we're gonna wrap this up for this week thanks much for hanging out with us on 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