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and good morning from the scene at New York Studios its episode 234 of 3079 podcast and you're joining us just in time for WWDC and in the house today we've got Ben Fox Ruben and Roger Chang good morning guys what are we talking about is if anybody didn't know we're gonna do that joke oh it's a slow news I know I love the music I'm gonna play just keep playing the entire time so yeah we're gonna be talking about WWDC if you don't know what that is that is Apple's Worldwide Developer Conference usually it's it's fairly a little geeky a little wonky yeah it talks a little bit about you know operating system updates coding updates you know really fascinating stuff but Nick this time we may actually see more stuff there's rumors about where Hardware speakers maybe talk about augmented virtual reality so lots of lots of new development and updates to some of them like the MacBook line now yes exactly so there there are plenty of stories they're gonna dive into uh WWDC actually starts up about two hours starts around one o'clock our time 10:00 a.m. Pacific I've seen it has full live coverage but yeah we're gonna talk about what we want to do it right a little bit of the preview as long as always I get any questions leave in the comments section Brian will pick up the best and we'll get to them in three minutes at 59 seconds from approximately 3:00 to welcome to the 359 I'm Roger Chang I'm Ben Fox ribbon Apple's WWDC Developer Conference will start shortly and well the full live event coverage for you but before they actually get started we want to go through what we want to see from the event I bet in particular you had a you were kind of looking at smart speakers right the serial speaker that's right well it should be what it's called the serious speaker it's probably not gonna be called that but I would be really shocked if they ended up introducing a completely different digital assistant that was going to power this thing it's gonna be Apple speaker or Apple home or Apple's something Apple home app they're gonna call it Apple home just like Google home and the essential home and the home home oh ho yeah either way this should be a pretty big deal rumors about this started what like well over a year ago that the speaker was actually going to be coming out and I think it really is to me it shows some sort of admission from Apple that the phone cannot do every last thing yeah and especially in the home you know maybe your phone's upstairs maybe you lost it you know under you know a throw pillow or something like that I think it's the idea of being able like call out to a device like we've got we've all kind of gotten used to call out to Alexa on the echo speaker you know Apple tried it with the iPhone hey Siri right right doesn't work no one actually ever goes hey yeah in some cases or in a lot of cases you need that centralized stationary speaker and that's why I think that Apple finally decided that they wanted to do this however I think the rumours are this isn't going to have a video screen it's not going to have a screen capability which meant they're already late to the game and they're not going to have a major feature that Amazon is going to come out with a little bit later on with the echo what is that thing called echo show yep the echo show which is gonna come out later this month although I guess it's it seems more like an echo look which has the camera right yeah that's I think that's what the rumor says you know the other big thing is obviously if they're gonna come out with the speaker Siri has to get better right like Siri is kind of not great yes I really really don't like using Siri and I use a lot of these um intelligent assistants yeah because like I write a lot about them I feel like the Google one is probably the best one as far as like my own testing is concerned yeah I think Amazon's tends to do really well I'm trying to avoid using the name just then that trigger people's sure that's smart speaker very nice of you yes but I think Siri really does need to do a very good job of trying to catch up considerably especially if they're going to create some sort of dedicated device just for Siri yeah I mean it's been really slow going the introduces things several years ago they really just let it use their party apps last year but it needs to get smarter it needs to understand you a little bit better and it's definitely dealt with like growing pains so next up we want to talk about augmented reality it's a thing that Tim Cook has teased a he calls it sort of the it's the biggest thing since you know phones generally key he has had many comments about the opportunity that comes from AR but you haven't seen anything yet right I leave in the comments other than comments meanwhile you look at Google Facebook Microsoft everyone's talking about AR is one of the big next trends of Apple has done anything right and there it's you're you're absolutely right a lot of those other companies have actually presented some sort of hardware or initiative or you know skunk labs something like that Apple hasn't presented anything to the public at all about that I mean there's Google lense that Google just showed off last month right this image recognition system that like totally makes sense is totally useful I can't wait actually see it but Apple just hasn't done anything even close to that mm-hmm yeah all right so are we on time by the way oh there it is lastly uh one talk about MacBooks right yes Lee the rumor is new MacBooks coming I personally Rose I know I personally just want to see a new MacBook Air like come on man don't we about this we talked about this last year that they updated like the baseline version of the MacBook Pro right and we essentially told people like look this is your new MacBook Air and you have to pay a lot more money for it yeah I want to see an update I don't think it's gonna happen but I mean that would be on my wish why wouldn't they do it though which is a problem just like pushing everyone kind of upmarket rights or like you don't like it you got to pay up I mean so that mean they say they have a low-end laptop for people who you know can't afford a lot the more expensive one it just happens to be crappy an old $1000 is apparently low-end I don't agree alright for more of these stories in all the WWDC cover check us out on CNET I'm Roger Cheng I'm Ben Fox Ruben thanks for listening all right so we've got a few wish list errs in the chat thanks again for everybody for coming back and for bearing with us when we were on hiatus there for a minute I was a nice little break but we're so happy to be back and thank you for all the warm welcomes back so let's go ahead and jump right into the comments coming in on YouTube SEP separate us as completely wireless iPhone no charging port yeah well totally but we're not expecting any sort of I phone like major hardware iPhone announces easier is he saying to remove the charging port completely seems like it that's pretty pulled that's kind of cool no that's done that's super it could be an ex-army aren't we eventually getting like isn't that like the big thing that like we're gonna get rid of all the cords from like everything's gonna be that's like a decade from now I don't know I kind of like that idea no no totally there's there's a company out there called energies that that's focusing on working on wireless charging from a distance the idea is you walk in a room and there's like a little broadcast signal there's kind like Wi-Fi but instead of internet signals you get power I've heard about this idea for years yeah and I've never actually seen a demo of it totally could work but I I wouldn't actually remove the charging port like you need to have a physical backup like it just that's not gonna happen in case you end up on a desert island I suppose or anywhere where there isn't this like energy magical energy broadcasting station hey Roger guess who's back in the chat ooh ooh oh my god it is it is it it is I am so happy to give a shout at the Christian welcome back a Christian welcome back good to see you good see Danny's good to see imagine soggy good to see Matthew everybody all of our good regulars and all the newbies so much fun to have you guys back what a way to kick things off on WDC do we do Christian go back and watch episode 200 where we did like a huge shout out for you and I don't even think you were there what a bummer it wasn't the same was a bummer but you know he kind of punched us all in the face for that one there yeah we're really proud of you bigger typically I speaking alright we got a lot more wish list to go through yeah let's keep churning uh trust mob mu gamma mu gamma mu by WA I'm sorry I'm buddy's name a new MacBook with more ports and no touch bar here oh yeah I mean totally let's add the I mean there is but there really does need more port there's a MacBook Pro no with no touch bar I mean there is a low an option me I but yes let's see like that MacBook to me was more conceptual than anything they were like this is what we see um you know laptop technology becoming a couple years from now but it was I felt like it was a little too futuristic the world wasn't entirely ready for no no I'm talking about just the baseline MacBook you remember the one where it's not over there Louis because there's a baseline MacBook Pro that has no touch bar okay so there's that none of ports though I think that's to his disappoint like I'd like to see more USB C port yeah for sure Christian gave his seal of approval her approval for episode 200 by the way Brandon Brandon says I would love to see a MacBook oh no I already read that one I apologize Chris Gonzales and several others are anticipating the series speaker brand they're killing it the Siri speaker so yeah I want to also ask people out there how excited are you about this do you already have an echo or a Google home are you planning on buying an Apple speaker if it does in fact come out because Amazon is obviously done a really good job of coming out with a speaker well over two years ago they've sold millions of them so a lot of loyal Apple users probably have echoes in their home already they're all gonna just throw them in the trash right by the Apple speaker I still think it's gonna be I know the serious speakers a good name but feel like they've been sticking to Apple right as a naming convention Apple music app that goes the Apple home I feel like it's gonna be so happy speaker even apples like I don't know a speaker doesn't sound very good I don't think it sounds like right well have they all been abandoned the I fix is not i speaker all right they're gonna come up with something and drive it into our brains with so much advertising yeah billboards and whatever that we're all gonna say oh yeah this is a great name eventually we'll see yeah like the iPad we all cut me from the iPad verse is like just kinda sounds like the iPod you know it's added like feminine hygiene products oh really first that was a big crack early on it they like now you just think iPad iPads no tablet yeah yeah they're very good at making things popular just by uh yeah constant replica the trick with these speakers though I've just found like I didn't actually understand the full benefit of these things until I had one I started using in a regular basis like I didn't even see myself calling to a lexicon sorry it's okay calling to did uh for rent questions the like like now I can't live without it especially like when I'm taking of the kid like it's grateful but do you have like the echo daughter you reckon on that yeah yeah yeah play music get that's the one that I recommend for anybody that that interested in get an echo yeah 50 bucks they go on sale for 40 bucks sometimes and I'm almost positive that there's no way Apple comes out what do you what he close to 50 now what do you think will be the price of this speaker minimum $200 minimum that sounds about right that's very like Apple like right look at a click the highest most expensive products out there we'll like we'll add a 50 bucks - how much is the Google home the Google home is everyone yeah it's 130 so Google because they were late to market they came out just in November they priced it well under the original echo yep there's no way Apple does something like that yeah I think they're not try not to cut anyone they're gonna be it's gonna be 500 bucks it's gonna be a Liberty anybody mini I mean I know they're gonna be alluminium VP $500 and crafted you know look nice but that's for sure well sure to look wonder nobody has confused the echo for looking nice like it's just a big Pringles black Pringle cylinder that's just in your kitchen right it's not particularly attractive all right we got a few people looking for Brian Tong in the chat he's coming later we're just warming things yeah we got quest this is a poor man's Brian Jack show we don't want charisma you came to the wrong we got a few questions still coming up from fan O's with sabe I scream William Boone Pro HD Jesse Gaede men and many many more so we're gonna keep trying to slam through these stano's wish list says iPad great name by the way thanos iPad pro 10.5 inch that's definitely the rumors right now no kidding yeah what is the biggest iPad that'd be a huge ball drop what is the looks like a nine point seven or so no no no it got a bigger one like a 12 point oh that's nothing what's yet what's the biggest iPad pro you're looking at me you guys are the oh I think I like strike OH yours is you think all the internet that I can type I don't know I'm not that the idea is this ten point nine is like the the kind of big it's in the middle but that's all they've been doing for the past couple of years that's all they've been doing is making the product smaller and larger smaller and larger and like that's what's so exciting about the series 0.9 the way is that 12 point I can actually a different product you know like confirmed by Anthony Juan and several others thanks meanwhile with saw the ice cream says free Apple fidget spinner instead of Apple stickers really I don't know man I like that idea that's a big headline people be all over it you know if they're gonna keep up with the trends it would be appropriate it will ease when I give it to you know every five minutes don't be at the moment the Apple announces free feature spinners like that's where the tread dies it's just all right we're done I like the suggested name for the new speaker the Apple sound box thingy yes that's way better they're marketing people need to get on this I have waitangi it was named that yeah sure there's some legal issue that probably think he's been taken already ah a William Boone says we need a retina MacBook Air again this is like all these are so good but so no-brainers too like Apple kid on it yeah MacBook Air is just I feel like I will be very surprised if they announce an update to it like ever like they're loyalists have been begging for it for forever yeah you've got a macbook air right there show the people the bezel on that thing it's hideous look at that it's night that is a very old looking product but people really like it it's nice and thin and it's $999 like what caring more could you want karen says i hope they kill the air mmm that's just old bulbs I hate that is bold all right we've been sitting on this question for a minute and he's been very patient for us so pro HD what do you think of the new rumored iPad with mouse which is integrated within the smart Keyboard go for it touch better Mouse he says Mouse I think I think you could kind of interchange them yeah yeah I mean I think that's I think they'd shift on this years ago like having a if you're gonna have the iPad pro be something that you actually do work on like you need to have something more precise than your touchscreen something tactile yeah you need something tactile exactly you know I think that touch pad or Mouse totally makes sense I would be down with that but that's more appealing to me as a consumer because like the pencil is nice but it's also nice yes the she's not part of your main kind of workflow okay ice cream come on none of these new innovations have really pushed the iPad to get better sales like their sales a bit I would argue that the like the touchpad the fact that there's the cover for the touchpad on the surface has probably made it more of an attractive option feeling for people looking to do work on their tablet right and they've been selling fewer unit if I remember correctly it's fewer units but they're selling more expensive iPad so they are actually doing a little bit better with that business yeah it's been on pretty a pretty consistent decline yeah yeah I just gave min is asking about well I'm hoping for iOS 11 drag-and-drop between apps that's a good idea yeah that's actually that's a fantastic suggestion I don't know if that'll happen you know they have continued you know I don't know how well works kind of works okay I guess not using it the same way I don't use it at all but we've tried it kind of works on the same Wi-Fi network but having it between apps kind of nice that's an interesting idea yeah Danny Green points out that the iPod is about dead with all the stuff on the phones these days he's got a point but you think there's still kind of like a fun gimmicky like it's kind of like kids mode mean the iPod like the iPod Touch or something yeah yeah yeah yeah the iPod touch definitely gets thrown at kids a lot I mean I don't think they're gonna discontinue that though no it's one of those things where I think those like they might update it with like a spec bump like a little bit more memory if they like just offer it up like it's often times they do those spec bumps and they don't even mention it yeah yeah totally it's not worth it like sometimes it's the press release right yeah DM MDK branches off the prior comment says what about a proper Iowa's file management system feels overdue sure does yeah yes these are all good suggestions yeah I think there was a bit of a know if it was a leak or something it was there was a tease of Apple files so earlier this morning I think we'll get something like that today at today's so something like drag-and-drop and file management I think could fit very well into something like WWDC yep because it is like long your software type of show I mean like we're talking a lot about like these different like hardware things typically tell me if I'm wrong here typically hardware is not where WWDC you no shine now most of these developer conference is not just Apple but all these typically that they talk about software they talk about like operating ideas fake ideas but it's a little bit recently like Google conference it is Google home last year like it's only been recent that that they've used the developer conference as a platform to talk about hardware mmm so good though it's very exciting yes makes it more reason to actually watch it yeah uh out of it gets pretty wonky in the chat Apple device process we need split screen on the iPhone there's an interesting thought that something I've not heard about yet definitely they have that people talk about that a lot but on the iPhone touch yeah but like if you have like the regular size and not a plus that's a small screen to do to do so this free it's workable I mean split screen has been on Android for many years mmm so I particularly like Samsung and LG phones you know it works pretty well okay yeah it's okay like you have a cure your inbox in one window you can watch a movie or something here's like I wouldn't if they announced something like that the crowd would go wild oh yeah when they did split screen for the iPad innovation yeah with the iPad everybody was like this is incredible this is something that you could do on your Windows PC 15 years ago uh yellow Matt asks do you think that the if the new iPad pro design will give us a hint about what to expect out of the new iPhone I think that's an interesting thought it's an interesting directly does in many ways I feel like the iPad covector usually follows the previous generations iPhone designs whether it's like the Shatford edges or whatever but fern edges we're throwing out all the old favorite oh yeah chamfered alluminium I know I it's hard to see that they you know hint at the iPhone at this event yeah yeah we got some more hardware wishes again with like a new air pod design which I don't think is going to happen today but now I know that you're not alone just wishlist what they're still ugly it's like like a new air pod design where it doesn't like have the weird weird things on the on the end where it doesn't look at you have q-tips in your ears Oh Brian I the thing is is that people are buying that thing yeah every time but yeah I don't like I'm just no not that I don't like the bit beyond as headaches I'm just really worried I would lose people seem to be buying them a lot more than I anticipated here I'll stick with the cheapo ones that come with the phone so that's not my how about this this is technically a hardware wish but do we think that there could be possibly better battery performance coming out of improved software wouldn't that be nice that's a really good that's been a focus of Google and Android for a while mm-hmm I don't I don't know if they're gonna talk about battery life that much that's kind of it'd be kind of nice just as an you know and holy we did thought if they actually talked about how they were making the i/o the job racist a little bit more efficient run a little better I don't know that's going to happen that would be awesome if they did yeah and before we got to wrap it up because we're running out of time here and they're going to be kicking off the formal coverage out in our San Francisco office shortly Joby Nelson says I think Apple TV should support 8k just for longevity Oh fine wool wow that's a that you know you're not wrong but yikes oh yes that also not hey that's not happening having Apple usually actually late to the game when it comes to supporting new technology they like to wait for to come sure before they step in so I were a take a educate me for a second does it already support 4k yeah okay the new what happened men have been fairly recent yeah yeah and you know just the new one but it took a while it would be nice I guess I don't know why our last wishlist item item from Jordan Apple toothbrush who I brush but my electric toothbrush just died this morning so I would totally be the market turn application would be okay yeah loopy to you but Ison would be more likely to do like a totally souped-up toothbrush right they will recharge yawn yeah totally yeah all right so to close it out let's go ahead and put down on the table what we think our our guess is going to be for what the speaker is going to be cold cuz it's coming like a freight train yeah Abbi I'm gonna be boring say Apple speaker I'm gonna go with Apple home even though I hate that name Oh what your shirt you stole my day that wasn't that I'd never know everything I was going to say Apple speaker you totally bought that suggestion earlier yeah now you like using it fine I'll go with i speaker that's not hat I feel horrible saying it I'm stealing from the chat I'm going to sandbox thingy heyi yes wait Apple sound box thing or just sound box thingy uh you have to put the name of the company in it that's what Tim Cook wants how like everything has to have Apple front of it alright Apple Apple sound box thingy yeah yeah that works that's rolls right off the tongue alright let's bring it home that's a buddy for sticking around they'll be kicking off like I said right on Cisco Brian Tom yeah shortly and they'll be taking you all the way through WDC but thanks for joining us early on for a little precursor yep thanks 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