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welcome to the Cray of cast i am your host eric mack live from cnet's always busy Taos New Mexico Bureau AKA Westeros north more on that later joining me alive in the Cena studios in San Francisco are Caitlyn Patrick of it but i will tell me before you had it kalyn's the track of its there we go Jeff Sparkman and behind the controls Stephen Beecham howdy and also skyping in from Westeros south in Albuquerque it's Amanda Kooser okay as everyone doing good excellent and then anyone else can join in if you're watching on youtube or on livestream jump in the chat room there you got you can also tweet at us at crave and I'm at erics ce mec and we'll keep an eye on those so for today it is time to sing songs of ice and fire because the season 6 premiere of Game of Thrones on HBO it drops on Sunday yay Thunder Thunder we're basically talking about it non-stop all week so we figured we should probably turn on the cameras for some of that so we can capture a little of our state of consciousness um but so why don't we go ahead and kick it off with the Iron Throne equivalent of a pledge of allegiance and let's begin with the all-important viewing of the trailer or her dinklage me thick know what he did okay so which one's the trailer cuz there was one never there wasn't one that said trailer one there was trailer to that I found trailer tues a little more awesome okay let's see if i can find that one here duh sorry guys they're all named funny let's see trailer 2 fits in like we listen this is trailer one right and we remember no I don't think so now past is already rich this is like the ink is dry okay here we gonna show this one that it's trailer number two I thought he was the man to lead us through the long night that I was wrong you like games little man he would spill blood in this holy place the gods won't mind they spill more blood than the rest of us combined who are you no one a girl's been given a second chance there will not be a third so I think about what's taken from me I know what happened there's more hiding for this we have to fight stand at the head of Army where you belong show them Estes Park we do too I the wheel boy is between the living and the dead and make no mistake the dead are coming you magan's do not do well in captivity how do you know this that's what I do I drink and I know things new tagline that's that's like my resume oh so not coming I don't think I'd seen that trailer yet that's a good one jinx so I you know before we jump into this I should say that if you feel like you watch that and you actually knew what was going on the entire time you really need to go do our quiz we set up a quiz a creative quiz for Game of Thrones leading up to the season premiere on sunday I took it this morning um I only got four of 15 questions right which is kind of sad because Jeff who's never seen an episode of Game of Thrones also got four out of 15 right Kaitlyn that's how I right man who's our resident expert got 16 out of 15 okay we like to question believe whatever extra credit can't be my score so yeah well we'll deal with that later uh so you know what do you guys think are you are you excited Kaitlyn what's the scoop are you looking forward to most um I don't know I I hadn't actually seen that trailer so I'm kind of still thinking about it to be honest I want to know what's gonna happen to Khaleesi last we saw her she was dropped on the side of a mountain yeah and then in the dragon later she was getting her clothes ripped off attend probably by another Khal Drogo um hater yeah I mean she is pretty much got turned like upside down in the last episode like I mean the Lannisters are you know largely out of power we all know what may or may not have happened to Jon Snow you know there's you know tons of unanswered questions uh not to mention you know we're like Melisandre the red which stands and there's so much going on I guess there's always a ton going on but on the main question of the offseason I which I guess would be Jon Snow right i did a post this morning based on some students at the University of Munich the technical university of music Munich they used an algorithm and they went through all the books I and also the shows and kind of pulled out different dad on all the characters and then try to calculate who had the most likely chance of surviving and the most likely chance of dying the person with the least likely chance of dying you want to guess who it is similar to survive not Peter Dinklage oh no most likely to survive very close Amanda hmm Melisandre look like I'm suffice Sansa searcy seriously likely to survive only so according to this ad this algorithm Cersei Lannister only has a three percent chance of dying now number two is very interesting number two most likely to survive Jon Snow eleven percent chance of dying hmm uh so I mean mathematically algorithmically I think things are actually looking up for John any guesses on who's most most likely to die this is actually this is actually kind of easy if you think about it ah that's a tough one um most likely to die yeah but not like most likely to die by george RR martin standards but most likely to die by the algorithm by the algorithm and basically what they did is they assigned like each character like 24 characteristics features and so then they went back and looked at who has those features and who died so in other words if a character has all the features who's still living of somebody who care who's already died well then they're probably pretty likely to die hopefully that makes sense but that's kind of how it works so the most likely to die by that measure is a Tommen Baratheon the the like current boy king so yeah yeah it looked like something bad was happening to him in the trailer that we just saw so yeah I mean that god is what guys I've only seen that trailer once I really want to watch it again it looked like something bad happen to him I want to dissect it again and again now so so yeah I mean there's you know there's a million different things going on what do we think about Jon Snow I mean what do you guys believe any of the three that he's not really dead or there's gonna be resurrected he's like I think he's like either hey either he's totally dead and he's gonna be resurrected who's gonna resurrect or they're gonna steal the plot line from the book and it's not actually Jon Snow it's someone who was John's okay if you read the books I know I don't think any of you read the books I did oh ok so when the giant King and what it was at Mance Rayder and one of the other guys like switched faces basically switched bodies yeah naturally and we were all kind of confused when mance actually did die because book readers were like WTF bro we literally know what happens I think that plot line where it was like a switcheroo fake-out could be what happens with Jon Snow I don't know who he would switch within the show but I think it's a open possibility meet I like that but then again they haven't gone through a lot of the mysticism in the show so like we haven't even gotten Lady Stoneheart right which I'm bummed about so freaking bummed about um sorry I was distracted by the adorable super cute by the way um yeah so a lot of the mysticism in the show is kind of fallen away so it'll be interesting to see if you know maybe they use the switcheroo or maybe we start finally getting into some of the mysticism and he does you know get resurrected yeah the red which she went back to Castle black after San as's army was wiped out at UH at Winterfell so I could see her resurrecting Jon Snow because she knows that he has Kings blood and she's gonna want to bring him back right to use him for her purposes whatever she's trying to do so I could see that happening so much Jon Snow is just such a big character like it's hard you know when he got killed off everyone freaked out there like that's the end of the show yeah totally I don't it and there's so much you know so many breadcrumbs about like his lineage in his origins it doesn't seem like you make any sense not to come back to that yeah and he also survived his girlfriend when she like shot him with a couple arrows he survived that too so he's got like seven lives left oh nothing Johnson so Matt Smith YouTube chat room says Melisandre will try to resurrect jon snow but will fail so bran and Bloodraven will save Jon Snow does that follow that'd be awesome that's totally weird I mean at this point we're reaching the end of the book readers knowledge right like I don't know a whole lot more about certain characters than people who watch all the episodes of the show I mean there's some like Aria we still have some we could reach into and but we are well past Samsa especially with the changes to her storyline Jon Snow we're at the exact same point Denarius we're at the exact same point so who knows that's a pretty cool theory though I like it what about this one the doctor will say if Jon Snow and Westeros with his TARDIS now which book is that in I'm really down for that crossover I would watch that all weekend so Amanda what's your take oh I think he's definitely coming back in some form or another and that's probably what I'm excited to see how are they gonna handle that um maybe he'll end up like a white Walker II sort of guy um we have an example of a sort of an undead nice guy in the book which hasn't been played with too much in the in the TV show I'm already getting confused I read the books but things are diverging so much that it's a little hard for me to keep track of what I read in the books versus what I've been seeing on screen so could he come back as like a Star Wars like glowing dead guy I mean anything's possible I just said that to make Jeff laughs Westeros a hologram we can mash up altogether you guys know this entire show is taking place on the holodeck of the enterprise yeah this is all just like data's fever dream I would watch that show too in a heartbeat someone in the in the chat room and the YouTube chat room was asking about Hodor didn't he quit the show to real life right Oh door what you left the show in real life Jaime am I wrong you're making things up no i'm not i thought i read that i feel like you're making things up not making anything up please google it a bit I feel like we're destroying months and months ago I seem to remember that that said that they were coming back Hodor and yeah man and also liked the photos of a brand like the actor he's like a totally different person now I mean from huberty for the win um that sounded way more awkward and I mean I meant it I just meant like very cool um I am really intrigued by brand story actually I think that it's finally gonna get median interesting into his training and his you know past visualizations and things like that so yeah I'm interested in his story line this season I just found a few articles from September 2014 that bran and Hodor won't be coming back that's for season 5 that's totally okay okay coming back is because yeah is because they totally X brands storyline from that whole season let me basically put it on pause you know this one that's what i get for reading twitter headlines just scrolling by oh so do we have any predictions ourselves either who will you know rise to more prominence this season or who will die anyone want to go out on a limb I I think I mean I think we already kind of know and have seen this happening but Sansa is turning into one of these strongest characters on the show he's turning into her mom I mean that was one of the story does that not bode well for her I don't know no I'm just saying she was one of the strongest characters on the show until until the red wedding I don't know I think Alan left a lot to be desired and her incessant need to control rob was a large part of her downfall and I'm really like I said interested in Santa and really want to see Arya's story line this season as she becomes one of the Faceless Men hopefully I mean some some characters are clearly ascendant right like aria is Chloe ascendant I think we're going to see a resurgence of Theon Greyjoy i hope the the pairing of Tyrion Lannister and the queen of dragons is super interesting um okay who was that girl in the trailer the new chick who was all like ha wink wink like I can't really wink I'm sorry um but you can't wink I go back to that meter okay she's in the trailer and she was staring at Boris and she gave him like a little like haha I know more than you do kind of like sassy snarky look and then descended the stairs does that show virus in um what marine where Daenerys was also nurse is gone so who's ruling is it Tyrion is parties and also can we talk about Jorah and His grace cool ah yes that's right wait who no wait who's that Mormont he's the knight who got the gray there's like what were they right i fighting my queen he's got that thing on his growing on his arm now does he didn't want anyone today it's the same um is it the same thing that why am I looking at Jeff yeah i was reading for you to throw it to me i was gonna make its a fishery in head yes okay grayscale okay yeah i don't know i don't think that's gonna work out well for him i don't know we'll see and then isn't there and then at the end of season 5 there was a scene with them Cersei talking to like a huge like masked the man ya like like or clay gain bowl which would be right the mountain fighting what's his face and oh my god I'm too excited I just forgot all their names but oh my god zombie mountain is that what it is cuz he has like yeah he looked in his his face mask is all gray underneath he's zombie mountain yeah so member Khyber yeah Circe's little Lackey was kind of like working on his body right so it's like it's like the Westeros Frankenstein Asia yeah he's totally the Westerosi Frankenstein so now so now he's created his monster and it's and he's about he's vowed in both of silence until he kills all of Circe's I mean has he really vowed of silence well if you just have no vocal cords because technically he's dead hm he's his old nose and vocal cord technicality he's a zombie it's the same reason we haven't heard anything from the White Walkers so I saw now I'm starting to remember what I wrote in like the wrap up from my back in June which was it yeah if he turns out to be zombie mountain or even better Frankenstein mountain then that means no logos right that means Game of Thrones has more or less covered like all the like fantasy and sci-fi tropes you got like Frankenstein we got zombies you got you know magic up the wazoo so having on a space yet area yeah i was gonna spend about the space one I mean to say they haven't yet had a vampire unless John snow comes back and starts drinking blood then they've covered it all mikroc boom okay you can't tell me that Melisandre hasn't drank my blood yeah I thought your blood drinking going on I thought I saw blood I pick for a BAM I just burst awake black demon cloud okay it's not be easy ain't drinkin blood all right you know what you're right i revise my statement John O is in outer space that's what's going on cuz we need to go to space nailed it yelled it's done George are one out so um you know it just a couple other things if we have if we have time do you give the link for the the Emilia Clarke spoon it's kind of unrelated but it's like super hilarious oh I do actually I think we need to play it um there you go something cute glamour where's my wig where's my orange mocha frappuccino where I can where's my accent wait where's the toilet with toilet oh my god sure where's the toilet paper um where's the plunger like don't don't go in there you know yeah you know where are my Spanx red where's the where's the remote like I want to watch you don't I mean Beverly Hills housewives um yeah hi Tom where is my other where is my cleavage well do you see yeah I mean Justin where are you now that I need you I mean is it too much to say that you're sorry where is my boyfriend where's my butt plug where's my privacy do you know what i mean by dear Kim that's great there you go and that says it all oh my god was amazing I didn't watch that yeah so I had I don't know if we heard from you Amanda any other you know thoughts predictions on on where the seasons gonna go yeah well I think it's probably pretty clear based on the second trailer that the queen of dragons will find her Spanx this coming season she was getting undressed in a tent mm-hmm she will find them now they're probably with the Dothraki somewhere that's my best guess but I'm really excited about falling re a storyline of course anything with Tyrion I don't know there's so many threads here they're they're worth getting excited about but picking up with a brand I think it would be really interesting so that's been a while since we've visited with him and I'm really curious about how they're gonna tie him back in with everybody else so we'll see there yeah last we saw him he made it to the tree right this magical tree or something yeah yeah I'm interested to see to who max von sydow is who is who the one that he's sorry um Jeff who's max von sydow oh my God he's been in it there's one you know my favorite role of his was when he played the evil brewmaster in strange brew which is an awesome comedy and nobody else just have been revoked so it's trying to go for your local of them movie The Exorcist you know in the pictures we've seen Star Wars II oh yeah we're like two seconds he is the one standing with brand so I don't know maybe that's what you're looking for right now Stephen oh come as i hear you looking around uh but he's standing in front of brand and brands looking at him and we see him a bit in the trailer and i think we even hear his voice over oh yeah i definitely recognized his voice yeah was that in the trailer we just watched today that we hear his voice or I it might've been in the first time it was in the first one that we yeah I heard that in there so a couple of couple of more interesting things from the chat room Ryan Edward says jon snow will be creamy did fire will save him because he is a Targaryen from his father's side oh my god r+ l equals J that's a good theory there are a ton of these theories on the internet and I really really like them that is a good theory here's one okay Caitlin uh did you catch this games for days says Jorah touch Daenerys his hand when he had gray scale does that mean she will catch it also what about ice spiders I know that beats what about what writers I say spider I think I do recall I spiders okay Joe I don't but the grayscale one's a really good question plus I mean so in the books help me out if you're murmurs Amanda can you when they get grayscale don't they usually like chop off their hand or their finger or whatever they have yeah I think it's an option to try to keep it from spreading but hey I mean that's the best kind of as bad as you can get that the daughter that survived it was a highly unusual case I mean usually it's crazy creatures or start attacking other people but right they turn into the oh yeah weird what evers um but I don't know has it ever been mentioned whether fire can stop the progression because there would be an interesting one with that Targaryen fact hmm I remember that yeah I don't remember mention of that but those books are big right and the player has to such amazing properties in the books especially like like the last commenter said maybe it'll resurrect Jon Snow who I love that idea I really do yeah there really is a million different directions to go with it um any final thoughts on on this season before we move on is Stannis still alive or is he dead because you never see him getting yelled you just see um what's her name I don't know her name but she banishes gonna kill him and then she swings and we don't know if he's dead he's dead you know for what it's worth the algorithm says he's very dead okay very good but is he most sincerely dead I feel like there was a interview where he and or Brienne we're like no I eyes he's out mm-hmm so Game of Thrones youtube channels when posting all these short previews of season six and it's kind of like spoilery I don't know if I want to show him just want to see anything because I have one of Sansa cuz the last we saw she jumped off of jumped off right yeah the castle right uh but we also kind of already know she survives that because then in the trailer we just saw we saw her like in the snow with her same coat like do you want to see right after that battle what happens there's a video I have I guess you just we gave the spoiler alert right this is a spoiler alert if any of you guys on the life is a lady just log off yeah I feel like Stephen you're the one that hates spoilers the most so well I mean game of thrones spoiled this so they put it on their YouTube channel so let's see let's see you hang on a second let me so we can find it here we go this is right after the battle people who find the location for this need to win an Emmy that's all they shot that's it so they're just running through the woods doesn't really tell us anything yeah that wasn't super spoilery you're good you want to see Cersei and Jaime there's another like little preview of Cersei and Jaime okay that's why Rose Cersei and Jaime or is there any other kind do you remember the first time you saw her body mother well I can think about when she died was what would happen to her now every day every night what does mamala like now she started to bloat as a skin turn black her lips peel back from my teeth you think about locking masella in a crypt think about her beautiful little face starting to know don't pretend like you have humanity now come on you always did it's just really misplaced right like she's always had empathy and feeling it's just that none of it has been for anyone other than her family that's true yeah fair enough loyalty loyalty anyone else noticed the very prominent song of a bird in that clip like there's no way that's an accident right the bird yeah I didn't notice but that's a good that's a good one symbolism alright cool well so Game of Thrones premieres on HBO this sunday at six o'clock pacific we're going to be tweeting about it with the hashtag g OT cnet all weekend all week all our whole lives is that right we're doing a KO yeah wait what you doing and this area is distracted by peter is equally do we have the audio for that he's beautiful and so that video goes on for an hour an hour yeah an hour I mean it's just really good like background music for like your party my podcast you know I think about it yeah you don't engage so no it's stuck in your head to the end of time by the way he was awesome on Saturday Night Live if you guys haven't seen that episode where he hosted check it out for like a month ago it's awesome and just to continue the oversized roll the george RR martin place in my life we had you heard me mention that I'm in Westeros north and uh Amanda's in Westeros south that would be because Westeros central of course is Santa Fe New Mexico Amanda's about an hour south there I'm an hour north and Taos and in Santa Fe last month a little thing open called me I'll wolf and it's really weird um and the connection to george RR martin is that he's just been like pouring tons of money into the Santa Fe arts community since he got a lot of it and he reopened an old independent theater in downtown Santa Fe that's totally awesome Amanda's gone to some events there where he's spoken and you know he'll like introduce films sometimes or just like do Q&A s at his theater and then he also bought the building for this arts collective called meow wolf and then they have opened their first permanent installation and it's really difficult to describe it there these are photos i took a bit last weekend and it's called the house of eternal return and it is basically if you took a a premise for a sci-fi novel and then you built the world of that sci-fi novel in a real space and then invited people to walk through it it is it's totally insane I mean you know you walk in and there's basically you walk into this house they've constructed inside this old bowling alley and then there's a house and then kind of behind the house is there this weird trippy kind of alternate universe like all kinds of different scenes and rooms and treehouses and stuff you can walk through and so base and then there are also videos playing and there's little audio things you can listen to and so it's basically a completely nonlinear story you just kinda have to walk around and you walk around inside this world it's part of the story and you you kind of have to figure it out I'm am I making any sense Amanda does that seem right to you yeah I mean it's like it is a combination of sci-fi sort of fantasy there's a little bit of a David Lynch fever dream happening in there it's it is very hard to describe there is an entire house when you first walk into the space there's a lawn an entire front of a house a port front porch and you walk and this is on inside and you and then you walk inside the house which is inside of an old bowling alley but it's quite a spectacular very hands-on experience there's things that you touch musical instruments made out of lasers and you play with those there's an entire arcade inside of there with a very nice Tales from the Crypt pinball machine a lot of time on let's go I mean it's really it's hard to explain it and you know when you first walk in you know it's something like 15 bucks to get in and then they say to you or you can pay two hundred dollars for the annual pass so I mean like imagine I know an art gallery so yeah you can have paid two hundred dollars to come back and see the same installation over and over again but then like once I haven't gone through it and spent three hours in there like you I mean you really just begin to scratch the surface of it and it actually totally makes sense to go back time and time again I don't know that this has really gotten on to the national radar too much yet but it's going to I've never I've never seen anything like it um I honestly it's worth yeah I think it's worth a flight to Albuquerque to come check it out it's that unique and that interesting supposedly supposedly there's a companion movie that they're working on I don't know if that's going to be an indie movie or something bigger budget probably pretty india i would imagine but you know you walk into this house like amanda was saying and it's a full size house built inside bowling alley and it's fully furnished and nothing is there on accident I mean there are there are a full newspaper lying on the table it's a fake newspaper that has all these stories and within and within the stories in this newspaper are clues to what is actually going on in the story behind this world that you're walking through as you first walk in there's a mailbox outside if you open the mailbox you can pull out the mail I physically pull out old cards and stuff and there's you know like clues in these cards there's papers all over the mean nothing is out of so can you interact with them like you were saying like you can open the mailbox can you go up in the mail can you try and put a game into that game console that we saw can you all that stuff or can you just sit and like hang out and watch the people walk through what can you interact with and what can't you know you can you can interact with pretty much anything that will respond to you there's actually photos and they were like if you open up and again nobody tells you anything when you go into the covin oak around um and so like if you go in and you open the fridge the fridge is actually a secret door that leads to a a travel facility to facilitate travel between universes there's my daughter silly that's my daughter going through the back of the refrigerator so she's in the refrigerator right now uh and then you like she goes out the other side ya know that is but good they put out in Flickr there's like ads and Flickr oh okay it's like a very the little frigerator reminds me of what is it the Disney why am I the names escaping right now uh describe what you're feeling the girl meets the things he shrinks Allison one dollars in Wonderland yeah oh right I was thinking it reminded me of like it's like the refrigerator to Narnia or something mm-hmm that looks like a hobbit hole yeah there's a lot of game consoles in here too and videos dad's flu I'm like oh yeah you were a say impossible yeah but there's also the game console itself on the like the sharpie'd in game console yeah like if you put one in what would play on I didn't I never tried the game console there is a TV on now you have to go back Eric my I will trust me very poor with details this is a TV you're talking about no there's a TV I don't know if I got a photo because it's a regular TV just in the house and it's connected to a VCR and you can operate it and it'll it'll flip through different like crazy video clips that they have here's the game huh and then this is 0 that no you so no you couldn't those are the cartridges were not near that okay but can they be moved invictus would you still may be oh no it sounds like a very crazy interactive exhibition maybe you could yeah I mean I could I could go on about it forever because it's just it's it's so fascinating and yeah the space the gallery is called meow wolf the building's owned by george RR martin and house of eternal return in Santa Fe New Mexico highly recommended if you haven't heard about it I think you will soon and then one other project I wanted to touch on really quick is the crowd-sourced sci-fi novel which actually has similar elements to it that are in the house of eternal return there we don't have a title for it yet but I last November during National Novel Writing Month we asked the world to help us write a full-length science fiction novel and you guys did over the course of a month actually two months we let it go on a little longer we had hundreds of people who from around the world went into this google doc that I set up I had kind of an outline of a story and I just asked people to flesh out the story and actually write some of the chapters that I already summarized and you know we got we're about 40,000 words uh it's insane yeah it's it's it's a hundred and ten page I guess novella at the moment and you know since februari I took what I took what the crowd had created and I took it offline in February to kind of start going through it filling in some of the gaps cleaning it up a little bit to something that we can actually publish and so the plan right now is to publish it on seen it as a series will probably probably one run like one chapter a day for like a month right here on Cena and right now we're looking for you know we've got all the words we crowd-sourced the words and we're printing him up right now but we we did actually put out a call last week we'd love to actually crowdsource some art for this as well maybe we crowdsource the words so why not crowdsource some visuals so that that piece that Steven had up there on the screen if you if you can find that piece on cnet just go to cnet or anywhere or go to google and search for crowd sci-fi that's kind of a tag line we've given this CR 0 WD SCIF I crowd sci-fi is the shorthand for this we're looking for people who can contribute it could be illustrations could be artwork could be an infographic could be a map or something could be a vine done some vines that kind of illustrate some of the scenes I have your vine you want me to play yeah it's random but yeah you can get in i'll play name's Matt friend your dad's you could say I fund his research you could say that so that is one of the scenes from the book I didn't write that scene I don't even know who wrote that seems good um you know it's been a really cool experience maybe there were people involved from Brazil from India from the UK from the u.s. obviously and so I'm really excited to you know let everyone see the the final product but we'd love to you know crowdsource the process of printing it up a little bit so if you go on on cnet i have posted some excerpts from the final version to kind of for some inspiration if you anyone who's interested in illustrating those scenes you see like in the italic there those are actual excerpts from the final version that were finalizing right now to give you a little inspiration and actually the entire rough draft of the story it's it's still online and you can still go into it and edit it the entire project is creative commons which means you know it's going to live there as long as Google let me have that doc so anyone can go in and mess around with it add to it edit it take it somewhere else and build off of it you know I fully encourage that it's been a super interesting process and really cool to work with people from around the world you know what was what was most interesting working on this is there were several people who their English wasn't their first language and they told me they weren't necessarily comfortable writing in English but they wanted to be involved so we had like people from Brazil and and India who like they didn't speak English but they kind of helped organize the story and organize some of the scenes and we had a Facebook group when they helped with brainstorming I know it's truly incredible the way you know people just contributed whatever they could because I know people love the idea of creating a world in this case creating a whole multiverse so anyway that's yay humans yeah humans air change some who aren't necessarily grats on doing that Eric that's a huge undertaking it's pretty incredible what you did awesome it's thanks I appreciate it and yeah that's that's why it started November and it's now April and we still haven't finished Exodus it's a gigantic wall or the one-year anniversary yeah exactly and Kelsey was normally on here on the crave cast she's been helping me work through it and and and and shape it so with with Leslie we're working on that and we'll have that up next month so look out for that and send us your art you can you can actually tweet it at crave a tweet any questions about contributing art or anything else at me or at krave and we'll get get in contact with you and yeah so that's that and then Caitlin you had a future you've been working on too right yeah actually um we I as an i crafted a whole Marvel Cinematic Universe and DC extended universe explainer and so this kind of just goes through a lot of those differences similarities and ultimately which one's better so we talked about how not all Marvel movies are a part of the MCU or the Avengers franchise and kind of what it means for the future of films and no actually from the gentleman in the UK okay luke westaway um made that video I believe and I don't know I just it's a topic obviously I'm super interested in and I really enjoy writing about Marvel and comic book movies and we also yeah we have this really great time line here Thanks yeah it's all the upcoming comic book movies for the next few years and so you can see all those yeah it it came out really really well I think it's a beautiful piece if it's something you're interested in definitely check it out it's on the front page of cnet right now and really I think you can actually google marvel vs DC and it'll it'll be on that page somewhere it's always that's great that's that's super helpful cuz I mean that might be the only universe universe is that I have as hard a time following as Westeros ever ever expanding it is and that's part of why it's so interesting especially with the release of Batman Superman recently and everyone's question of wait is this connected to Minute Man of Steel is a connected to suicide squad how do those all fit in together so this is like a handy little cheat sheet for you I heard an audible groan from mr. sportman Oh was that audit that was out loud it was a but Batman register back miss ya that's part of that movie was Wonder Woman yes you are correct do we have any final thoughts from Jeff Sparkman that movie sucked oh is that outlook um now that was pretty much it yeah okay all right well I think I think that's about it for today Amanda anything else you're working on that we need to mention Oh actually coming up for a game of Thrones fans probably on Wednesday we're gonna have a george RR martin specific quiz so once you've conquered your game of thrones quiz check back here in the next day or two and we will have a george RR martin one so you might want to start studying up on what kind of car he drives i have a new theory that Amanda's cat is Jon Snow I don't know but it's looking pretty regal up there that's this is what I put up an all day I should have a lower third time next time next time on the crave cast a lower third for Amanda's cat I think that's it for today so a game of thrones again Sunday evening uh will be tweeting about it all over the place do I have that hashtag right Caitlin it's a G ot Cena looking God seen it God see you know you whom yeah much more game of thrones stuff to come look for it all on cnet com / crave that's where you'll find everything else we've been talking about today for Jeff Sparkman Kaitlyn Patrick events Amanda Kooser and Steven Beecham I'm Eric Mack this has been the crave cast see you next time Peter Dinklage detective edge protector you need