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all right are we on come to YouTube oh my god we did it we made it to a new platform hello everyone hello we exist alright cool so as you guys can see Roger is not here today so the Chi I am NOT Roger the cat is away and we are on youtube so this is a brave new world for everybody but Sam has been very kind to join me on the podcast today otherwise we would have been alone yeah I would have been well brian is always here yeah who dutifully help me out we're going to be talking today again about Twitter trolling some more interesting news that came out about that the iphone 7 which is expected to come out pretty soon in September and then also a was a jetpack golfed card yeah it flies through the air right I'm not entirely sure what we're gonna say about it but it's totally boss so we will just check it out if so so Bryan we can ask people to ask us questions yeah I'm in the chat room right now okay so there's a chat room you guys can send us questions or comments what have you obviously we're going to be talking about trolling so if you guys decide to troll ice fair game I mean I so kind of yeah i mean like that's not very nice but still entirely expected considering the subject matter and right and it's YouTube so I guess we can we can get started and yeah we'll try to answer your questions when we're done with the podcast afterwards so wait four minutes enjoy three minutes and 59 seconds right exactly not for a minute under okay audios recording to speed let's kick it off in three two welcome to the 359 where we talk about the top tech news of the day plus whatever crap we want to throw in I'm Ben Fox Rubin I'm Samantha roads first up Twitter trolls the micro-blogging site permanently banned one of its most notorious trolls get a butcher this guy's name me lo e Annapolis yeah you novelist he goes he goes by the handle Nero after he helped lead Twitter mob against ghostbusters star Leslie Jones with racist and misogynist tweets so Sam is Twitter actually going to be able to stop this type of trolling from happening I mean like are they even in control of their own microblogging site I think it's difficult to tell because you get into a sticky area of free speech and so you know can you actually tell someone not to say something who knows but they're starting to do a little bit more yeah do you think that this okay I totally get the free speech angle however people don't want to be bullied on site so they don't actually have to go to like I don't have to go on facebook i don't have to go on twitter how much does this hurt them if you know the whole situation like like twitter mob can turn against you and say a bunch of negative things and kind of make your life hell for 48 hours or even longer yeah i think it could be awful i mean she left leslie who was attacked just left twitter and it could happen to anyone in the fact that it was over nothing yeah that's well that's what yeah that's what's kind of unexpected about this situation is that it was it when when gamergate happened that also happened on Twitter and there was at least an understanding of why it was going on I'm not suggesting that it was actually good it was actually pretty horrible but what happened there there but also a lot of anti-semitic things that have was set against journalists that have written critical things about the Trump campaign that was also problematic but at least the targeting was in a sense expected or that you knew it was happening but with Leslie Jones it just seemed to come out of nowhere which creates this really problematic situation that you can just incite a Twitter map to go after one person and it makes you think it could happen to you any day yeah like so who wants to go on twitter if that's the situation so i don't know i have a bit of a knock against the whole First Amendment thing because you know it should be you shouldn't allow for bullying I think especially that kind of stuff on that site oh yeah anything i know i agree i think they need to crack down a bit more because you can't just let hate speech run wild yeah I mean no one's gonna go in the platform anymore if they do definitely all right let's let's lighten it up a bit what else do we have so ten percent of us phone iPhone owners so they were only ten percent say they were likely to get the next iphone upgrade because there really aren't many cool new features right now granted that was that was down from like twenty five percent right so it's still a relatively small number but that's like a really small amount comparatively so we're obviously a little nervous here at cnet that the iphone 7 is going to be a horrible died by now saying somebody by see hopefully iphone sales sink actually for the first time in the first quarter of 2016 and so people are just i mean i guess they're just not that excited yeah yeah it's too bad and we've been seeing that a lot this year and lastly we also wanted to get to a ridiculous story to continue to lighten the mood some guy created a jetpack golf cart it's pretty awesome and we have a video up on the website that you guys can check out so first of all not some guy it's bubba watson bubble walker oh ok that's a guy okay fair enough i don't know that much about golf so how did you I ok it's a big name but yeah so he used he made a hovercraft golf cart this is a jetpack the video is actually hilarious he's just flying through the air instead of you know going on the normal path he's literally above it's pretty cool yes that would actually get me to start golfing which I never ever do my father in law wants me to do it and I say hey you can take me mini golf yeah mini golfing yes he immediately loses respect for me so yeah yeah I don't know the only thing is like what if you drop a golf club on someone's head that would be kind that would be bad you imagine no no but okay either way anyway you want to read more about these stories check out check them out on cnet I'm Ben Fox Rubin I'm Samantha road thanks for listening and that's a cut on the recording slightly rusty on the on the dismount but I managed anyway realize that while we were tied iddin write it down i usually have a script for the end part though was okay i realized i we were talking i was doing some of my hands and it made a very weird that was the backup of just in case Sam did something weird over their hands so just ignore it um anyway yeah honestly you should watch the video they have you watched the entire thing it's no no no I checked out just to sit just enough to be able to talk about it for 30 seconds but um yeah I think I think it's important to mention that I youtube by the way I've also seen a lot of like really truly stuff that goes on on youtube so yeah and I think that Google has been trying to improve that situation I'm not really sure that they have but YouTube definitely has that reputation too so it's it's going to be interesting to see where the line is going to be as far as like First Amendment versus you know actually getting people to like come on because like I think a lot of people like going on Facebook because Facebook is like safe for Grandma to go and like if I'm going to post a picture of like my kids and a bunch of people are gonna like spout like night baby yeah that would be that would be pretty tame no that happened to one of our cnet writers think that would be a view exactly on facebook no where was it I don't know oh I don't know either yeah yeah you could just read about that okay well that kind of stinks totally horrible so yeah but I feel like that happens less on facebook because you're as you discussed before the show because your face is on it exactly your faces on it and on Twitter it's just you know a handle it could be anyone people knew who Mila was anyway we have questions not really I the one thing that happened is the the minute we started talking about spam and trolls somebody just started repeatedly commenting spam spam no ma'am I never said spam I said troll but there's a there might be confusion in the audience right now between what spamming and trolling is because people are saying like yeah I've got lots of problem with bots like that's a gun oh yeah I'd say that's very different trolling to long as an address human being bad if there was a troll bot that would be pretty interesting actually I don't think I've ever actually seen one before I feel like somebody could be made of her rather it is a lead yes well that's the thing is when they you know when the First Amendment came about and we adopted free speech no one thought of Twitter when that happened yeah no one thought of the Internet I mean didn't exist look I'm a reporter obviously I feel like people have have the right to say whatever they want to say but I I think these are it's it's there needs to be like a finer like a better line drawn as far as like not harassing people so yeah and and like Twitter right now so used to be too much of like a wild wild west because like this guy Nero can you know shut down is his account and then potentially like open a different one obviously Twitter said they're going to fight against that and try to make sure that it doesn't get back on the site but yeah I think it's too easy to like create varying accounts on Twitter and I mean you could just keep making them with any handle and any name in any picture and then no spew hate speech I guess so yeah and let's try to avoid spamming people by if we don't have any other questions I guess we could call it I just thought it was funny is it's like really that's the peak of your creativity is writing the word spam over and over I would have expected somebody to say I mean when we talked about Donald Trump on Monday we got at least a nice that we got a largement pill badge and stuff like that's that's that's what spam supposed to be that is def not just for words spam yeah um cool no trolling it's like when people are actually mean to each other right yeah it's basically boolean so all right am I supposed to I have to well somebody says you can say whatever you want but you don't need a law to tell you that Twitter did the right thing because that guy just spreads hatred and bigotry and I think that kind of goes with our tango in exactly to your point there's a big difference between as saying having an opinion and just being a jackass right and I'm standing by that word because there's no other word like you pure jackass right i mean that goes way beyond being a jackass but yeah fair enough but there are some other select words that i might not want to say total under the scene at moniker i think yeah look even more broad than this it really conveys the fact that you know social media is still a very new medium and it gives people a lot of opportunity to say different stuff and i think maybe we're taking we're still learning how to use the tools properly well what do you think is going to happen first is something like the cesspool that is twitter to borrow your word will cave in on itself because that's something I've I saw since day one it's like it's two entirely possible i mean and i don't i don't think that that is out of the bounds of reality I don't think any of these networks are invincible sure but at the same time with Facebook you have an agreement that I'm going to talk to you or trance perrin see right and now you can just go around that people do get bullied on Facebook but people get bullied in the real world too yeah but it's not like real were less bullying yeah oh yeah actually you can't say that because real world bullying it could be next level stuff yeah falafel yeah but Anya on Facebook your face is tied to it and everyone else is seeing your comment with your face writings it is makes me wonder why more of these agencies haven't adopted that kind of thing where there isn't some verification well do you think are they going to it is Twitter going to cave in on itself are we going to be forced into this kind of verification or are we going to outgrow this immature face what's going to happen first I don't know but like I think that the point is is that Jack Dorsey who's the CEO of Twitter really presents himself as somebody that tries to be very altruistic and positive and you know views the world in this very optimistic light so i would think that like he's probably very disappointed that this kind of thing happened to Leslie Jones he directly reached out to her on Twitter to ask for her to DM him just to say like hey like can we talk whatever so I don't think he's happy that that's happening on his medium and hopefully that means that he's going to make some changes to because like Dorsey has a reputation to maintain as well so yeah well he needs to find the answer to the questions that we're currently asking yeah that's that's a while while running another a completely different company to ya called square so now this show get lucky or see yes the got real um yeah that's what you get when you have me on oh sorry ah alright that will be a good time for me to end it if you liked what you saw comment check us out on cnet and now I have to do this thing that Roger always does we're on tunein soundcloud Google Play yep google play music i know i got two moro iTunes and we're also on our own website and feedburner and that's it check us out tomorrow I'll be back and thanks very much