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let's talk about something that you've been dealing with for some time I just dealt with recently with the Xbox one s review and that is HDR so so cats yeah that was a trial by fire huh explain took us like two hours ago thinks it was crazy what is HDR for people who don't know what is HDR 10 what does Dolby vision what is all that junk so the first thing now HDR is high dynamic range okay just like the HDR setting on your phone the name but very much nothing like it in reality okay don't confuse it with HDR on your phone or photography or whatever with those crazy effects and you know they even have video games back and a that at HDR effects eternal like why could they use a different three-letter combination no super high dynamic range is what I told them to use and they didn't want to you well I don't understand that um so anyway HDR is what we're stuck with and right now in the market there's actually two two formats of HDR there's HDR 10 which is just called HDR generic HDR and then there's dolby vision which of course everybody knows dolby right kind of runs the show with audio and theatrical video and pretty much everything in hollywood so they have a big name brand advantage these two formats are not mutually exclusive so you can have a TV that supports both or you can have TV the sports one and the other right now sony samsung and most everybody else except for vizio and LG only support HDR 10 vizio and LG support dolby vision they paid you know dolby you know their their licensing fee they have this ability to take these global vision titles and play on so right now you can get HDR from netflix okay if you have one of these TVs right you can also get it from Amazon they support as well both guys support both formats good if you have a Sony TV you just get a little thing that says HDR but if you have a vizio or LG TV it'll say dolby vision because they prioritize dolby vision you can do both and then Vudu which is a service at Walmart runs that's similar they only have dole vision right now which is interesting huh so there's different Studios for different ones I've looked at both the difference is really hard to tell right now I think we might see some more differences merge as the master studios figure out how she could make it pop a little more but the real thing to know is that any HDR really is a good picture quality improvement right and you are watching it yes oh the difference there is a difference yeah it's subtle yeah it's there though it's not going to blow your mind or not I mean remember when people in HD first came out people like will standard F in HD or not the different or you know lie blu-rays look a lot like my DVDs it's not as drastic of a difference is that there's a diminishing return sort of absolutely because at the end of the day regular blu-ray looks frickin phenomenal yeah so an HDR blu-ray looks even better provided that your TV is good enough to make it look bad right and that's what gets a little cloudy right like it like we just discussed every TV manufacturer seems to have like a different sort of idea of like what they want to support so is it possible that like someone could buy a TV and get screwed out of the format that ends up maybe winning this sort of situation I think what's going to happen and this is pretty pretty standard HDR 10 is is required by the by the the consortium that came with 4k blu-ray okay so it's it's if there's a 4k blu-ray disc out there which is the only way to get HDR you know aside from streaming right now it's gonna be HDR 10 so and every TV out there Vizio literally last this week we want relative firmware update that allow their TVs to work with HDR now all these HDR TVs all work with workings you can't get screwed right so you're not going to get screwed but there is a possibility that for whatever reason Dolby vision stuff might look better or if for example you want to watch something on Vudu that's Dolby vision only right for as long as they maintain that exclusive although I think it's going to be very long so you might actually end up if you have a TV that can't do Dolby vision not being able to see all the available content that's the case right now from Sony and Samsung viewers but it's not that big of a deal because that stuff is also available on other services and non Dolby vision so I think these two are going to co-exist a little like DTS and Dolby Digital which are the two audio formats that every receiver they coexist yeah and it all works you know but there isn't there's very few receivers out there there only one or the other right now so I think next year the year after you're going to start seeing TVs that a little do both like LG and Vizio do this year so okay so this does necessarily have to do anything with HDR but it is in your realm the question I get asked a lot by people who are the sort of laymen of the tech world my basically my friends yeah um my night people what's that wonderful people wonderful people but just don't necessarily know which side of the blu-rays has the data on it okay that's fine um question I get asked the most is when do we stop being able to see difference in resolution me like how close you have to be no no like after 4k will be 8k right oh yeah what's that seen K we're already there well no I feel like we're there I feel like 8 K from what I've read a few sort of like ophthalmologist you know expert sort of your brains just simply not going to know the a after a lot a chart thing is it a K like a poison should be well the threshold the thing is H it's actually already happening because if unless you're sitting really close to a 4k TV you're not going to see the difference right between really good 1080p which is blu-ray right and 4k because your eyes are not sharp enough to resolve the difference right plus moving video is a lot more difficult to resolve and the fact is you know it's not going to be the very highest quality anyway sure so if you look at Netflix 4k vs. 1080p blu-ray often the blu-ray looks better because there's less compression and you know it's it's it's not about the number of pixels and so we say like we have a 65 inch TV unless you're sitting like 6 feet 7 feet away from it which is how a closed-in gigantic TV like that you just can't see the difference for most people if you have great vision sure you'll see the difference you're watching really high quality content sure see a little difference but again 1080p blu-ray looks working awesome already people I feel like people want that feeling they got when they went from sd de Jessica can't have you just like you'll never create that first time right a taste which is like yeah pulling off the clouds never going out this is amazing and the other thing is right now even 4k is never it's going to be really long time for its broadcast yeah so right now TV broadcasters are barely doing 720p and 1080i yeah and those are the high def formats and once you know when are we gonna get to do some smattering of 4k stuff you can see on TV that it's be a long time before they change all the trucks the camera Ferguson's let's just skip and go to 20k and just yeah at this point it you wouldn't see that for us either but that's not gonna stop from coming out with it yeah sure how long do you think agents and managers are wondering like how long do you think even this HDR thing would last cuz he wants to buy TV he wants to make sure that it's actually a good investment for him and he'd be worried that like it's the next best thing yeah HDR is a big deal I think we spent a lot of time crapping all over 4k because you really couldn't see the difference with HDR you can see a difference there is a difference because it's not resolution which is basically limited by your eyesight and see there's more color sizes - yeah it's you mentioned wide color gamut that's a really it's a difference you can see it when you look at you know the trees look greener there's right now that HD standard is pretty limited and the color it's based in like you know the 70s and earlier right what the TVs could reproduce they're a lot better now they can get a lot whiter color that's in HDR and then the dynamic range which makes you know highlights glint and it makes the clouds look more defined yes like that better again relatively soft subtle but instead it's much more of an improvement than from going 1080p to 4k absolutely I totally agree with that you showed me a scene in in the revenant that is very very gray the revenant is the best home video content I've ever seen period Wow work a blu-ray the revenant is unbelievable cut yeah because he just did a great job of filming it in HDR yeah out in natural lighting understand haven't seen that film treat yourself well even on at 1080p you know regular TV it looks small because movies are filmed like specifically in HDR do you think they fill in like a couple resolutions above and then bring it well again HDR is not necessarily a resolution it's about the capturing of the dynamic range which is again the range from from absolute white to dark and it's also capturing the color and all these cameras now all these digital cameras can Aris and Sony all these that the Hollywood cameras are way capable of capturing its that transfer yeah so getting that whatever the camera could see to your screen is that is the question that's what HDR comes closer to than current 1080p correct me if I'm wrong HDR in a nutshell when it comes to the dynamic range sort of stuff the analogy I tried to give somebody was like okay let's say you had like 10 shades of darkness right like 10 shades of gray okay HDR gives you a thousand yeah for for all intents and purposes like that you're basically getting the ability to see that much more of a difference between total white and total black and and and it created it expands the range and expand it increases the number of steps in that range like f-stops on a camera one of the analogies that they use but it also makes the top end of that range potentially a lot brighter sure and so what you can do is have like if you envision like Sun as a plane turns sun strikes that the wing of the plane and it this bright kind of pop yeah HDR captures that much better than I mean HD can't capture it and and the whole format is designed to transmit those highlights and give you that sort of feel that's why revin is so good because it's all outdoor natural lighting sure that you're used to seeing and it's one of these things where if you see it side by side it's like wow you know it does make a difference we'll get them