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Brian Tom thank you very much mr. steven biko you're welcome very much with that energetic staccato like intro yeah you're like basically pulling three or four switches at one time it's yeah when I start to show no mere mortal there's a lot of buttons to get us there's like audio there's faders there's camera switching there's audio levels it's not for mere mortals and there's words coming out of my mouth this this is again not from your mortals welcome to show everybody episode 65 i think is in the house we gave you a little bit of extra thanksgiving bonus content it was a short show people were like complain like dude that wasn't a full show dude do you want to show you extra show where's that extra crunchy is getting you another one she ano okay anyways ladies and gentlemen boys and girls welcome thanks for hanging out with us again we love you to be part of the show so we always ask you and plenty of calls flow in 1 800 61 62 63 eight is the number you can call leave your name 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maps data and hope to catch up with google we've had people call in and ask us why what's so wrong about apples Maps and there is nothing wrong with apples Maps but beat him and I have told you plenty of times when google has been historically more reliable when Jubal has brought out had features before apples intagram let's talk about a transit Direction transit sometimes yes um and things of that nature just just all-around just being correct too yes yeah maybe Jack giving you the right directions that is why we lean towards Google Maps no I will never say never to Apple maps i have used it sometimes like when i'm in yelp it kind of just like automatically pushes meet Apple maps I'm like okay i'll use i'll give this a try but here's some good tidbits of how Apple is going to use these drones to really try to bolster and improve the quality of their Apple maps now again it's said to be using this to catch up to google maps they'll be able to capture an update map map data a lot faster than a I don't know if you guys and gals have seen some of apple's like pictures of apples minivans I don't know at that first row rumor to be Apple apples car project that i was like no don't no no no like I'm not seeing that so there's some like mini vans that are out there they're actually collecting the GPS data but Apple has worked with the FAA to get approval to use these drones to improve their maps we believe that Apple's worry Apple question yeah this might be very naive but doesn't this google use satellites they use a combination yes satellites and what else are they well here here's the other thing um they use a combination of services to pull all of those different resources for data they don't use drones from at least the last time I checked Yeah right there were services or you know third-party groups that they had acquired an integrated into their service for you know 3d mapping the actual cities and whatnot but we haven't heard them actually using drones now if your time out streaming like if they have they have their car you have google earth yeah they have yeah they probably they have to tap into that I'm sure and for sure I think that what Apple's drones are doing is maybe it comes down to they don't have necessarily the same partnerships to be as efficient to collect this kind of closer to the ground data like we know at Google Street View right that's all done via car yeah apple doesn't even have an equivalent to that really so I'm wondering if so this is a subsidy equivalence of the apple or of the Google car driving around taking pictures they're gonna have drones I think drones probably more efficient they've definitely more efficient the thing about it also again we don't know exactly what they're going to use the drone for specifically other than the fact that yeah it's going to help pump up their maps data but we also don't like a drone battery life right now is like 30 30 ish minutes 40 ish minutes tops yeah I mean I can't see this like dude being sooo seriously effective right away so might only be used in certain spots in certain cases but anyways um it is interesting the other thing that Apple is looking to do to also improve their maps they've hired pilots that were part of Amazon's primary program that is still in the works right we're talking about drone delivery drone drone drone all the time they also have their own Apple their own indoor mapping initiative they did they had an acquisition of a recent company for like doing interior mapping they're called indoor I oh where this would be advantageous maybe places like shopping centers museums so being able to get that done as well as pretty interesting so look I applaud they need to step up their game I still don't use Apple maps exclusively I still don't use it as my primary but again this is all good news that are pointing into the direction that there are taking this seriously and they're trying to build some trust back so we'll see how it all plays out I don't see myself just all of a sudden using them I maybe I use it in a different context like you know they have you know how Google has a street view yeah if they had if Apple had drone view then that would be something oh hey I might take a look oh hey oh hey Beecham I like that I like where your say Apple you know I have ideas it can holler at me tersely Colorado column I'm free for retainer if you need that bar bomb its Bat Mitzvah yeah and if you can hire my dad to he's a highlight he flies Cessnas there you go um hook him up Huckabee chukka beat him up let's go beat him up also in an email exchange that is according to be an exchange between a macrumors reader and CEO of Apple Tim Cook air pods could be expected to ship in the next few weeks based on this exchange now that emails have been verified to come from Apple's corporate servers but here's what they say the customer brought to Tim Cook and you can I believe it's Tim as Tennessee cook at Apple comer tim crews just responding the emails he though that was a kind of a thing that Steve Jobs used to do that's cool or is it Tim Cook's secretary anyway the customer was basically plain like I I was promised this wireless future what is going on with the air pods and I'm stuck waiting for these because they aren't coming out Tim Cook responded in an email saying thanks for your note sorry for the delay we are finalizing them and I anticipate we will begin to ship over the next few weeks oh so that's funny like almost he almost did a press release and an email to a customer sure and you know what sometimes we have seen where customers get maybe like a little snippet of information that they don't expect to be put out me too now they're never gonna release like the specs or images of the next iPhone I mean they have all the Chinese websites to do that already yeah so true the just a little nugget if this is the case though in a few weeks I mean that the airpot still may not make the holiday season if they're shipping from factories in the next few weeks it's still going to take another week or so to get here again the stores I still believe in I could be wrong and you guys can all call me out later if you want to I don't know if the earpads are gonna make it by 2016 based even on that timetable of that email exchange yeah yeah so tough one are you let down you know we I know how I feel about I'm gonna buy them but I'm not so I'm not let down I'm not gonna buy them but I'm bummed out for consumers who are excited and they got the iphone 7 and they're like you know now I don't have my ear pods for Christmas so too bad rich people that's too bad you don't have you gotta wait like I said I'm gonna buy them and I'm gonna try them i'm ninety-nine percent going to return them but i'll still give him a chance I I will always give everything a chance I'm not that person who's gonna make I I do I don't want to have them hanging out of my ear though I did see someone in the wild wearing pair yeah because we have apple head it was here well yeah yeah it was it was a dude and it looked like he was wearing like I did a double-take is it look like he was wearing earrings you know what I mean like I was like oh those are trippy earrings yeah or you know like when people do those big rings like this giant holes yeah yeah the plugs the big lugs yeah I kind of look like that too from a distance I was like whoa what oh that's the air pods yeah you're kind of like okay so looks like an earrings from a distance from this isn't isn't a bad thing but it's not a bit I don't think it's a bad thing at all all right let's just jump into some of these iphone rumors that you may not have heard of or you may have heard of the latest from the wall street journal is jumping on kind of the rumors that we've heard that apple will have a curved OLED screen that could come out in the next iPhone as soon as next year you know what we love to call this phone I mean we have a variety of names where if I phone what you want your future iphone x I'm still down with iphone x iphone extreme I've own extreme iphone 10th anniversary or when I'm sorry when I hear this curb screen thing I just wanna Jana mmm dude okay you know what you can't yawn when I'm presenting a story for show no that's absolutely the headline maybe yah not you no no I know what you're saying and you're very good at covering your tracks but this is I'm just merely relaying the information to the people this is the best part of the story that I love because everyone use it as a headline for the shows i ended up kind of doing it as well but the nugget that came out of here that everyone blew up was the fact that according to The Wall Street Journal yes and oled display could be used in here but the report says more than 10 prototypes of this phone are being considered and people are like headlines were literally yeah some iphone 8 10 prototypes to the works and like okay in related news Apple's working on next year's iPhone like they've always done that true yes this is nothing new but it's like all day like 10 proto why do I do the report also says that an iphone with this oled screen may potentially not be released because look they have 10 Prada may not also they may not have the supply of oled displays in place they also say that this oled screen based iphone would be priced higher oh yeah no oh yeah so like we kind of talked about a past shows could you really imagine an apple iphone with three potentially three different sizes two types of different screens two different types of cameras depending on the model I this is this is not your mama's iphone know from 10 years ago this is not this is not your mama's I from from 10 years ago that's that's how I'm going to put it Apple is also hoping that suppliers for OLED displays can increase their yield rates right now it's anticipated that samsung will be the primary supplier in 2017 with the hopes that companies like sharp LG Display and Jack Japan display will be able to catch up in 2018 to provide those parts so that's one of those things and then just a quick overview for those of you just to kind of get a refresher the rumors as they stand right now our two LCD based screen iPhones the current 4.7 and 5.5 inch screen sizes so those will be LCD based then a rumored somewhere between a 5.1 to 5.2 inch iphone so somewhere in between that that will have the OLED display hmm that will be higher priced yes so take that as you may that's the latest but this is but as we move on this is probably my favorite this is not most likely one of the prototypes but a patent that has been granted to Apple was recently revealed that showcase how Apple has been working on a foldable iphone concept okay this this is the reason why I like this all right people like what are you talking about a foldable iphone does this does this kind of call back the old school days of like the motorola razr oh yeah and flip phones are just gonna say could you imagine a dual screen super thin it would be kind of cool it phone almost like a Nintendo des yeah like been open yeah clamshell but like half the have the thickness so for people that remember how cell phones used to be there's a lot of people here that only know the iphone as like that type of form factor and screen right oh so it that on that article they show kind of some of the different designs that this foldable phone can be if you can show people that are watching beach and just scroll down with it so yeah it's a call it's a clamshell type design it has a metal backing but they also talked about how this phone this foldable phone could be flipped close to protect the screen or another option you could flip it the other way in the screen to actually be on externally on the outside hmm let's kind of run it back yeah be like a little nail art like alarm clock next your bed or something Oh totally I just I'm just kind of fascinated that hmm because phones are so much the same these days if it was thin enough what I what I consider doing a flip phone iphone I think I would I i think so too i think i would like would it called the fly phone to flip iphone the flipper flipper filipino phone the butterfly phone Oh with the butterfly but but butterfly phone but I fun butterflies in the sky like a fat twice as high now that's cool because to just even today I was like looking at my phone and we got these cool like little cnet things that like suction cup on in the back yeah so you can like put your phone and it'll sit on your desk like a little TV screen and then I was looking around and some of the people around us have like little special stands for their phones and stuff but this this would solve that problem it could it could just you can prop up your phone at your desk wherever butterfly phone we already got the theme song ready got it we got the TV commercial ready to roll holla holla I'll dude ideas you Apple my extra crunchy ABX see ideas I like that abbreviation also yeah yeah ABX see you down with that you're all not yet he's like not yet all right um and then just a little kind of uh maybe you guys should be aware of this I'm not here to try and freak you out or anything like that but a new security a vulnerability bug has allowed activation the activation lock bypass on iphones and ipads using 10.1 or 10 point 1 point 1 i'm not gonna get into this super deep but let's just put it this way so let's say you have your phone is lost and you always someone tries to get into it and it always has that screen that's like oh you know how do i connect to this or try and try and get into the phone I it's called the heck the activation lock it just basically prevents anyone from really using it without the legitimate owners position so when a lock devices started though okay so let's say it's like power down powered up users are prompted to enter a Wi-Fi network you know username and password well there's an option for other network and if you select that then it asks you to type in you know your security information but here's the trick depending on which you know protocol you choose web wpa2 there's no limitation on the number of characters you can punch in there so you can just type in a ton of characters like ton of character just whatever it doesn't even have to make a difference but at a certain point in time is by entering like a really long string right copy page is like 10 at the prompt will actually crash and then expose the devices home screen oh wow they can get into your company you get injured i'm watching this video that it just like typing where it's in that blog post and he's just typing like an emoji over and over i can to get a super long username password string of characters that's funny yeah so um we don't know if this is gonna be fixed anytime soon of course it will be or a better be but i just want to let you know just just so you guys not trying to freak you out that's crappy police out some guy like SAT there and just typed forever i mean okay i guess you could go back in history me like how did they figure out how to make penicillin and stuff like that you know but like this is look at this dude he's just typing they're there there's people out there for software web to geographer realize they like again we don't we're not privy this i think actually be interesting to try and find someone to talk about that stuff totally because and that's just how vulnerable all these platforms are quite honestly there's always a way there's always a way there's a way in everything unfortunately nothing is unfortunately nothing is secure right now not as much as we'd like to believe it is not even your heart especially not your heart yes that's one of the most vulnerable yes vulnerable password bonum yes you could get hurt thank you it can be healed though yes okay since we're getting on the cheesy note no sponsor which means more stories for you hello all right let's keep on going apple says remember we talked about the iphone 6s shut down the battery issue that they had we talked about how Apple is offering a way for you to check out if you have a phone battery died was manufactured from september-october of i believe it was was a 2015 outs 2015 so check this out in a chinese website posting that Apple themselves posted they described exactly what was going on with his battery issue and why it was important apple says we found that a small number of iPhone 6s devices made in September and october of 2015 contain a battery component that was exposed to controlled and be an error longer than it should have been before being assembled into the battery packs what as a result to the air a part of it a component of it as a result these batteries degrade faster than a normal battery and caused unexpected shutdown errors to occur it's important to note this is not a safety issue so so and this is exactly what you were talking about what we've talked about remember people say no I'm around thirty forty percent my battery my phone to shut down it just shuts off this is exactly what it was Wow so in some cases well you know whether it's extremely cold temperatures or because of this flaw that's what it is it's a component in the battery that was exposed to what they say ambient air longer than it was supposed to be so the good thing it is a free replacement and apples also created away really easy to let you check your iphone 6s serial number to see if you're eligible for a new battery you got it just got to go to the support site on Apple comments this is I think it's right here if you if you can read these characters you pull the shiny side for the lake in that luck if you could just read these uh use translate in Google and then you could figure this out you're I sure there's a even be to provide you the Chinese Intel that you need here on the Apple an extra crunchy yeah it's very very important that's crazy so they have to like they had to be sealed from the air and so a piece like let's say a circuit or an exposed connector that is inside the actual battery housing before they assembled it was exposed before they assemble the battery just that just goes to show you like how complicated all these devices are that they're building in a foreign country these are great these are great points to be made yes it also I you know people sometimes we rip on Apple it's because you know when when you like them we love oh but when you claim to be the best and you act like you're the best then you better be the best that's all I'm saying you can't leave stuff exposed to the air I mean come on you got to be the best hahaha killing me mad I'm like dying that's your baby I'm bright like blown away by that oh no go away that's the way the world is it's just the way the world works sometimes uh in other news we talked about how Apple was canceling their Airport routers last week a Bloomberg report did talk about this but sometimes timing can be very ironic or just sad JD Power just released their latest wireless routers customer satisfaction survey and guess who came out as number one is it Apple Wow they were there like we should rethink this Apple was rated out of a 1000 point scale the number one wireless routers based on customer satisfaction with a point rating out of a thousand at 876 second was a sous d-link was third tp-link was fourth netgear fifth okay also just to show you you know that most of this is most likely based on the the ease of setup it's a lot easier if you're in the apple ecosystem and just talking where to set them on and talking with the device it just works fluidly I'm sure yeah it may not have the best signal the best power it has features that are exclusive to someone in the apple ecosystem like you know the time machine aspects you know airport extreme Airport Express play like audio and things like that that are kind of built into the those hooks in that specific ecosystem the Apple themselves for wireless routers also earned I five Power Circle rating for consumers that means it's basically the best consumer product the highest out of any company is well they're discontinuing the line that sucks oh and I know that some people call this about it that they were frustrated the thing the thing is that there there's gonna be a lot of ways that some of these features still work in different ways but i just thought it made me laugh when i pulled this article up because like the timing couldn't have been any better / worse depending on what side of the coin you're on I mean do you think they would rethink that after they get this report I mean that's I seems that seems hilarious it is hilarious I think that they wouldn't just because it's all about really mean it's all about this it's all about the money yeah yeah yeah they have shown to us that they're not willing to really invest in some of these like ancillary things anymore yeah just their turn the monitors now to airport base stations if it's not making enough money for them based on the bottom line or the metrics that they expect to they're just they're just basically scrapping it and this is you know like a car manufacturer one because cutting you know JD Power and Associates I always associate that with car yes car gets gets the award they're like making commercials about it they're like JD powered associate Award winner two years in a row come check out our car at the nearest dealership Apple's like oh yeah we're just gonna cancel that I'm sorry we weren't we weren't supposed to know that they were canceling their award-winning that's so fun what if they what if that article never got out and they put out an ad like we r we r JD power so just for many wireless routers and then like six months later at the next Apple keynotes like we are discontinuing our award-winning power associate we're gonna go out on top this that's the way to do honey in use of do not try this at home safety tests of 400 fake apple charges you know you by the amazon you know you're trying to get a car charger or a wall charger on the cheap oh yeah chargers bought online fake chargers bought online revealed that 99% are dangerous I believe it a large scale test of 400 fake apple chargers this is a report from the BBC were bought from eight different companies at eight different countries online the tests were commissioned by the UK consumer protection body chartered Trading Standards Institute of the 400 chargers purchased just three of them had sufficient insulation to protect protect against electric shocks in the most basic safety tests before what three were those just so our i do not know they don't list them I don't I i looked at the article I don't believe they list them here's some great help from the Institute they provided four pieces of advice alright this is our apple byte extra crunchy PSA for today plug pins plug the charger into socket don't switch it on or connect a device if it doesn't fit easily the pins maybe their own size have you had that before it's like I have loose chargers oh my gosh i had that i've had that when you've bought generic stuff generic faulty chargers markings look for manufacturers brands names or logos check for the cee safety mark there's warnings and instructions but the funny disclaimer said Oh a lot of these counterfeit Chargers have fake markings and fake safety who flits so it doesn't matter like a fake apple logo or something on them so look if you don't want to buy a ten-dollar charger go to your local apple store and buy a 30-dollar one instead the only problem run into is my phone says this this uh what does it say like this is not compatible it's not compatible with this device and I'm like ignore it it's the worst but I've never had a problem where yeah there's like a authentication chip yeah basically if you're in the made for iphone or made for idevices program there's an authentication chip that is you you pay for in order to kind of say made for iphone i say whether it's a charger of all types Apple has this program with third-party manufacturers and companies that make accessories so that's why if you're not basically you're not paying apple and you don't have this made for iphone sticker on your box that's why you get that message okay but it still works exercise 1 99 percent of them I've never been shocked by an apple charger you know neither of I'm I'm still alive do ya and mine are like freight apart like coming apart exposed wires and stuff I still not getting shocked now I said don't try this at home how about just don't try this a report coming out of business insider says a former senior manager at Foxconn one of apple's manufacturing partners we know the name Foxconn because you heard a lot about how there were poor working conditions there for a while people committing suicide based on whether it's mental health or the poor working conditions right there was for about a year and a half or so it's a hot-button issue and then Apple did an audit and had to review that but also basically puts out a yearly report on the conditions in there been doing there in your manufacturing processes and stuff so a former senior managers at Foxconn allegedly stole 5700 iPhones and sold them for 1.5 million dollars Wow million-dollar gonna going to jail for a long time yeah they say the Taiwanese man his name only reported as psy has been indicted over the allegations and faces trial with a potential 10-year jail sentence if found guilty the way so it was like how do you just steal these how do you just grab them off the factory line the phones in question are said have been made for testing rather than sale smart guys I smart guy sigh and they were supposed to have been scrapped once the tests were complete and he's like scythes lying gonna throw these are you guys gonna throw these out over here all these iphones okay I'm just gonna grab him hey she also worked with eight other employees to help him acquire the phones and it was like a ring oh yeah yeah Chinese folks we liked rings like correct rings dude it's just how it rolls there is no there is no crime without a ring period no matter what you are if you like you need a ring on a ring if you don't have a crime ring you're not a crime lord you're weak the Hall of Doom that's a crime ring there's so many good crime rings that i can think yeah I mean come on you guys see Sopranos it wasn't one guy oh so good Sopranos it wasn't one guy was a ring all right talking rings you want to talk about that we want to see what we have yeah yeah we got some phone calling ring ring let me get this set up real quick my bad oh no it's not your bad is we're just this is a free-flowing conversation and show it can go in any direction at any time all right here we go call number one Bryan beat you Dave in tacoma washington let's go back to 2014 and remember that app commercial about apps and developers and for second and knowledge that are sounds great because of its apps so my question is does Apple not realize that until they invest in their developers and make better more robust apps that people are can buy the next iPhone because they don't see the benefit of any applications of hardware being push past the a7 chip the iphone 5s great show love the dynamic between the two of you thanks for the question thank you so much for calling I think that when you talk about the app community and it's not necessarily yes you are right hardware is part of what drives developers forward to build apps but i think really quite honestly the reason why iOS has so many apps and apps developers is because they sell the most phones yeah that's definitely when you when you're a young developer trying to make money and make an appt what's the first platform you're gonna go to you're not going to go to windows you're not you're not gonna you're not going to go for a smaller platform you're going to go to the biggest audience that has the largest potential for you to get your app seen purchased used and then make more apps and therefore make more money so it may be discouraging I don't think apples hardware is preventing app developers I haven't seen app developers drop off in any significant way shape or form they're more flocking to iOS and developing apps purely because it they sell the most phones yeah I feel like that commercial he's talking about from 2014 is Apple being misguided like the powers are apps no it's your phone that runs those apps and and in every case when someone built a nap I always see like Android people saying when is the when is the version for Android going to come out you know it's always for Apple first yeah so yeah that makes sense so just there I don't think it's gonna look until we see any kind of shift of a large majority of these clinical killer or key new emerging apps come out on Android first once in a while there are but I can't mean I can't even really think of a a real solid example almost nighttime gonna say ninety-five percent of the time and app debuts on iOS first for sure everywhere else before it goes anywhere else totally so okay next call hi this is Bryan from New Orleans I've got two quick questions for you number one I and an IT professional we manage around 200 iPhones and on the new iPhones we're actually noticing that the glass seems to scratch easier ever really seen this before any previous models but we are noticing that just wondering if you've heard anything about that question too um any complaints about the new macbook and not the fact that the keyboard is a macbook pro sorry not the fact that the keyboard is the shallow which it is but just kind of plastic enjoys it makes when you type on it it's not a real pleasant sound it seems to be louder than in years past so I just want to get your opinion on those two things love the show thing thanks for the call in regards the first question I haven't heard anything you'd you'd know more than us quite honestly because you're around them but I haven't seen anything that's significantly calling out the screen for being less durable mom and in my own experience I haven't had anything happened just based on normal you so I honestly couldn't answer that accurately yet the other question though in response to the macbooks the new macbook pros keyboards it was one of the features that I felt would be a controversial one from a standpoint of people are going to either like it or not because of what they're used to it definitely has more plasticky clicky sound to it from when I've used even just the 12 inch super ultra thin ultra-slim macbook but it I guess I hate saying this at the end of the day Apple is basically saying we think it's better you're going to get used to it and if you don't like it you can't do anything about it true so it's one of those things that yeah it feels different it is shallower it might make a little more plasticky noise because just I think the keys are thinner and fatter and I don't know if that plays into it although underneath yeah yeah and I don't know if that plays into it it probably does but even if we could we can't really change anything about it but your your observations are right on the money yeah I feel like with every keyboard there's like a little learning you know you have to get used to it it just feel the macbooks back in the day used to have these silvery larger plastic Keys without the same amount of space between this one so and people got used to that cool all right next call hey guys it's matthew from turlock on the last show you guys talked about how Apple's getting out of their router business and I was wondering if that means Apple won't be offering the time capsule anymore I'm wondering because we have two macbooks that back up automatically to that time capsule over Wi-Fi using time machine software and it's super convenient I was wondering if Apple will stop selling that product and if so what will users do to back up their laptops over Wi-Fi using time machine like can users hook up an external hard drive to a third-party router or something Thanks we don't know what's going to happen once Apple gets rid of their apple airport wireless routers I think it's still going to be some time you know and they're going to support them for a while so let's just say you only have to worry about this in maybe a year year and a half or two when the next standard of 802 11 is it a F comes out I can't remember the top my head I always keep on there's so many different ones that are actually in the word summer commercial use summer for consumers but they'll find a way to make it they'll figure out a way for it to work yeah yeah you know the time machine backup i plug in a hard drive directly to my computer I'm not saying that's what you want cuz you want wireless backup but there's gonna be a way to do it there they'll go buddy allowed to write you can do just yeah to certain degree not if you pay if you pay for that service but just not your computer yeah Bob you know so and we'll see how they address it but we just really don't know yet so and I for a quick little thing I appreciate our friends on periscope that watch this live they can't hear any of the questions or they still hang with us you'll hear when we get our new studio back up and running trust us all right trust trust the process hey i'm flying all the variants of you think love gold is an actual grayish color because men are really for such plus magic it looks amazing and able to take it to paint but do you pick it a girlish color that might be the best question of the year do you think rose gold is a girlish color I look this whole York you're asking the right person this whole I'd look at look what I'm with you I really this whole idea of colors being associated or linked to like genders I think as time has gone on that has just become like a lame argument it's redic dudes wear pink all the time and it doesn't matter like if I wanted pink I got pink shoes you can judge however you want but I would never worry about or care about if you like the color go for who cares what other people think it's like serious it's crazy my son is like three years old and he talks about this like daddy I want I don't want girl color so I'm like what's a girl color what are you talking about it's just the color yeah it's like this weird like I don't want to say it's a sexist thing but you know it's like built in a little bit for what they built anything like I mean from from when kids are born yes they're putting like a blue Lou ornate yeah and it's like it's it's ridiculous so it's been hard for me to like convey that to my son like there's no such thing as a girl color you can wear whatever color you want yes I know what girl colors I'm like yeah who's telling you this let alone colors I mean what about floral patterns I'm like so high on floral patterns i remember my brother he was like dude why you wanted flowers all the time and I'm like because I like to and get away ladies like flowers yeah guess what oh my gosh 23 years later dudes be wearing flowers that's why don't be a trendsetter get all roles gold outfit I don't even care if you got made fun of it's not my fault I didn't tell you to do that okay okay I be a rose gold phones in Halloween next year why not look when you're younger you have to deal with this whole like gender identity with color thing yes I think as you get older your are you really going to knock talk to someone because Iran arose old like jacket no I don't care like I'm not going to talk to you if you're a jerk you know so it's just it's just part of growing up but I see we were saying you might get teased by a friends but guess what own it if you do go on it that's their own insecurities it is they're concerned about themselves and I would say oh you just aren't wearing rose gold cuz you can't pull it off and they're gonna say yeah cuz I would never pull it off I'm like yeah I'll let's keep walking now humana be a man just step off those gold own it own it okay that's it man that's it now that we just had it that we had to go off on our on our let our color color gender identification color gender I call a quality yes apple byte extra crunchy covers very deep issues yeah i mean the the logo of apple by text when she is like bright pink you know i've got i got crazy eyes like like dude neon guy or you know i don't care i just love colors i think they're dope so yeah all right everybody thanks so much again if you want to be a part of the show give us a call one eight hundred is it sorry what's the number is it one day 666 no no it's not it oh my god here devil's number eight hundred 61 62 63 eight thank you so much i will we will be here next week for episode 65 until then adios peace yeah let me turn this up turn on red gum and turn that up turn and an itunes we can play this little loop here at my speaker my headphone speakers are blown you can't hear anything I think they're cool all right we good