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from the cnet studios at Giant Bomb studios in first floor of San Francisco California it's the up at bite extra country podcast and I cannot talk with your host mr. Bryant ah oh man good afternoon everybody hey we have a special apple byte extra crunchy extra money this is episode 55 in the house a special guest pretty much the man at seen it that has touched fondled frolicked and put in his ear every Apple product known to man mr. Scott Stein calling us from the NYC what's up Scott hey how you doing oh man are you tired of talking about this stuff I mean come on let's be real yes I need a break I actually had dinner with my family last night it was a wonderful ow this is amazing but uh we appreciate your time here and we'll just kind of jump into it you've been able to play with all of these Apple devices um we've had our own impressions but let's just our top with the iphone if you had to kind of give it you know whatever your three key points or what makes it special or why would someone do it what would you say about those the iphone 7 and then the seven plus so i would say the number one thing will be water resistance i'd say the number two thing would be a bit more battery i'd say the third thing well the number one thing would be the camera for the seven plus obviously for the seven plus camera for both and i would say it would be water resistance then it would be a bit more battery did you were you you know at some people complain about how it didn't look that much different weren't we didn't expect that on the star so to me it doesn't bother me that much because that's kind of what we've expected it's more of these kind of incremental things that have made this a better phone if you're already in the ecosystem yeah exactly and i think you know because it's all integrated because they launched the OS and the hardware at the same time and that's something that you know you see it another phones it doesn't show up and that can it can be frustrating it's designed all you'll be there for you at that one moment and you can tell that it fits together but um you know i'd say this time it's not a necessary upgrade we always say that but i think particularly Mary but it's a lot faster but the thing is I I say that as a caveat because I think we've already got really fast bones yep i 100% of there with you if we didn't have to review these thing if I didn't host this show called the Apple biter extra crunchy I would not upgrade this phone I just wouldn't and I'm on a success I'd be happy with my success but the biggest reason success Yeah right and I but the biggest reason we're if anyone's gonna even really upgrade to either of these things it comes down to the camera specifically the seven plus right yeah but you know the thing is 7 plus camera I say dot dot dot because the coolest thing you can do with that camera which is that depth of field boca DSLR like effect that's not available yet on this that's going to be launching later this year so we haven't even gotten a chance to review and play with that now hopefully it's good we obviously don't know we've tried it but also will there be other updates to the camera we don't know maybe you want to wait a year wait for that to be more polished and that's why I feel the most comfortable about waiting on the next generation phone is because we have this dual lens camera it is you know arguably the best camera on the market but it's still not fully fleshed-out bouquet effects there it only works with portraits from what we know it's may not be it can be affected with other things but not to that true shallow depth of field that we've seen with those portrait pictures so to me it's getting there but once it starts supporting other things like food flowers and animate objects on top of portraits then you're talking to me about a phone that I'm really interested in purely because of its camera yeah I think they're gonna do that I also expect that at some point you visible talk about augmented reality or other things you could do with dual cameras I'm sure that dual cameras will be used for a lot of interesting things next year and it's kind of like touch ID it's worth it's for one thing and then you start seeing it for more things right now it's just like the very early days of the idea of a dual lens camera yeah so you know we kind of got the overview everyone it kind of knows what to expect from the iphone 7 and 7 plus let's talk about the Apple watch is this really the series to the watch that should have come out on the first generation well there's two things one is the software and that's something you can download on any Apple watch and I really feel like I've been trying it now on an existing first gen apple watch I think you should do that if you have it you don't certainly don't need to upgrade but then yeah like we talked about like sports or sport fitness and there was the originally the apple watch sport but it wasn't really a sport while it was just a cheap watch or the cheaper watch it was still expensive this one the new Apple watch series 2 is a sport watch it's a it's swim proof and it has swim tracking at GPS which is meant for sports writer display so it's really a sports edition do it do does it make you feel compelled to upgrade because for me I have a genuine watch the GPS is nice but I'm personally not that super active hardcore hikers so just watch os3 alone makes me feel like I got a brand new watch it performs you know I know it's a little faster but the performance on a gen 1 watchos 3 watch still feels good to me yeah I think it's going to be fine for most people and I just liked I really like the water resistance but that's to me it's like the Watchers in the shower I think it's just a matter of when we check in now and look at Apple watch it's at a point now where I think you don't need a SmartWatch but it does a better job minus battery life of being a SmartWatch than anything else outfit yeah and then finally Scott we all know the air pods man i'm sure you've talked about ad nauseam of how they look I think you know before we we even got our hands and you got your hands review I just said look the tech on there is amazing but I don't know about the looks what has been your overall take the whole thing so so funny the first I became a mean and then he worked on me anywhere they felt like here you you you you were part of that man is amazing so that was a thank-you world for that they do look they do look silly but here's the crazy thing Apple's saying you'll use these set of your regular wired earphones I have been I realize now over a week these are my go-to over the wire included your pods I find that they're pretty easy to use and I think battery life is good enough you can quick charge them and I never have to worry about so that's a nice the problem i don't like is that the way that bluetooth and these things work it's not the same as it align in so if I'm doing a skype like right now I can't use it for all things or the sound sounds a little different um it doesn't work with video recording so i couldn't do like a first tape with one eye we're digitized and also uh sound still hiccups these are pre production units so you know we they may change but I still get occasional Bluetooth hiccups not as many as normal but um that's frustrated you know you even came across a problem where we were setting this up and Scott looked down and he's like crap i have a lightning connection on the actual earpods i have but i don't have the adapter and now i gotta go find either new headphone set or new adapters that i can even do the skype call and that's one of those things that is going to happen purely because Apple is pushing us forward there's this transitional stage where we're not even anywhere close to being in an all lightning digital audio world by any means no anything even you know USB see either of those were not there so you know the fact that that happened kind of shows how it's not there yet but they want to push you there and I think about what we think about these things are like Pro Tools the headphone jack is a useful tool used by everyone and I don't know when you remove that and you just go to lightning I'm not sure how that all shakes out you know I think a lot of people who rely on their phones for a lot of work related things audio and other things it might get really frustrated or maybe it's fine but yeah I feel like all of a sudden the thing as simple as oh I don't have the right headphones or I forgot the dongle here's one we did a battery test this behind the scenes they did a battery test of the iphone and we were connecting it to do to do audio pass through for one of the tests and I realized that hadn't left anyone with a dongle so we almost weren't able to run the test so you couldn't even have the audio pass through it's just like you're gonna always have little things like that for at least the next year then sure maybe we get over it but for now especially since doesn't have us bc you're ending up in this forked paths that um that's gonna be annoying I think ultimately I'm going to keep my dongle on my lightning headphones and just tape it up and make sure it just treats itself as one living cable and I was gonna walk around with it that's a good idea I think you need to do something like that and don't lose those headphones because then like I feel like I'll leave those headphones at home well you like yeah carry four of them in every pocket you know it's funny you say don't lose those don't lose those headphones because last week on this show Beecham and I were joking about look someone's gonna make a piece of rubber that connects the two air pods and creates this air strap on them and you know what happened like two days later yeah all these things are like hey look the new air strap the blah blah blah like the headphone connector and I'm like I could roll with that I think I could roll with that one thing I really think okay there you go and I haven't worried about losing them yeah although we did have one thing we're like our photographer Sarah took photos with these and afterwards and she brought the flashing to close and the magnet on the flash like sucked up one of you and I didn't realize it and I was like where'd the air pods go and it was like glued to her flap like like a magic trick well Tim Cook has continuously said these like he forces the word magical into every conversation with the air pods it's a little embarrassing well you what I know it's too much of that one thing i like is that and i don't think people have said this quite as much you can just pop one in and make a regular phone call with just any one of the air pods just a single one just like a bluetooth headset back in the day yeah and actually I really like that because I feel like whenever I'm on a regular headsets I never know where the mic is or I have to lift it cuz it doesn't sound that great it's not a way better right there ok you telling this is connected is not gonna do you um I don't know how to connect it to a Mac you can't do it yet the UM that's the other problem well lets you have bluetooth I don't know if we connect in my connect it should connect this is like the thing it's like this big nested you know will it work if i do this but the fact that you can make phone calls and people can hear you're reasonably well so they could work for that that makes these pretty useful yeah overall take of just all the products did did one really stand out to you personally for whatever reason um I think the air pods are an interesting concept if you're an Apple watch out but that's a lot of stuff to buying into because you can take phone calls now and it passes through knowing links products are pretty standard updating I think the most needed upgrade that improved a product may have been Apple watch but mostly through software and now I feel like it is something that that I feel like is in in a flawed territory is at the top the iphone is another upgrade you know it's it's very solid but I worry with that headphone jack whether it's the best upgrade for everyone yeah the ole you know what Scott thanks so much for your insight I you know thromb better it's definitely a lot better you know it's always it's always a leather yeah you know it always it gets Scott it gets better exactly it gets burped and one thing next year we're wondering about big improvements to the next iPhone next year could be a very big I think next year's gonna be a beast of a year yeah I don't see how it how can it not be when you have a phone that pretty much looks around the same for three years in a row it's gonna be a beast one else'll this whole year for Apple has been a very small year for upgrades yeah and I feel like next year you're going to see big shoes drop big shoes drop is that even I think I think you're gonna see like a lot of these products that you may have been expecting like what about like an an iPad that's more like a laptop I feel like it needs to complete the journey well look I've been waiting for them to show me something like that because i love that i have yeah prefer for a while for a while but we'll we'll give them a little more time we'll see what happens i'm scott thanks so much for calling in we appreciate your time we know you're busy guy all right yeah well thanks i'm glad to be on well I'm glad you're on as well I was only got to only get to say hi to you for like in two minutes when I saw you in sandwiches yeah and then you got yelled at remember that was I'd okay yeah that was so we were okay we were let's quick story this is not inside baseball Scott and I after all the commotion of the apple event ended up finally seeing each other probably at the end of the day I was one of the few people left in the office maybe three of us and we're like hey what's up we start talking we're catching up and then one of our co-workers to be unnamed I guess was on a on a phone call you're gonna prove a phone call or press in her life she was on a live radio a live radio hit in an office that freakin holds 200 people go to a private room so instead Scott Eyre marilyn scott scott and i are merrily talking and then she comes she's like pissed at scott she's like well you were done it at it and I'm like yo yeah if you're doing an important interview go to a private room that's what I thought and I saw Scott just taking this punishment on his face like he was just like you just take a head 500 miles across the country you you were taking it like and I saw your face just like all right I'm gonna and she was giving it to you and inside I was laughing hell you guys are experiencing the openoffice world this is a bit deep openoffice syndrome Scott you're good you're you're a bigger man me I would have been like I would have told her like go to a private room and do your interview there don't talk to me like that I'm a visitor you know I'm in a stranger in a strange land I gotta I gotta go with the flow I did come into and I was like hey how's a guy i don't care there were three people in the office you me and that person i don't care i realized that it was going on i know it was such a tough day and then I just felt like I wanted to call on her and that was how I got to see you again there you go all right Scott thanks so much get out of here enjoy your day and we appreciate you calling from New York okay oh yeah you too um good to talk to you again good to talk all the next thing yeah I can tell Scott misses us he's just kind of like I just want to stay on this phone line what good to talk to you all right thanks a lot Scott before we continue on with the show we want to take a quick little break and talk to you about our sponsors the dopest ones the world I devices inc that's I devices I NC com we've talked about their smart devices I've been able to try both the Smart Switch and also the smart outdoor plug they make a variety of other things like a thermostat they can also have this light bulb that turns a dumb ball into a smart one really cool stuff sleek design aesthetic smart home customization my favorite part about it is that it works with both Siri and Amazon's echo product when you say you know the magic word Alexa but it works really seamlessly like I'm I'm all about it cool each product sorry I'm like over here like anticipating 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that subscribe this audio podcast you gotta listen quick and early the iphone 7 lines have already started ahead of friday's lunch wow that they are there but this is what's sad to me there's kind of a bit of conflicting stories Apple came out outright and said look the initial quantities of the iphone 7 plus every single model the iphone 7 plus are entirely sold out in addition to that all models of the jet black iphone 7 are also sold out and if you wait in line and hope that you can get one of those models because you might have missed the pre-order maybe we were at work you know the online system that also had its own issues you will not be able to get them so i was before the show I was actually down in San Francisco at union square in line wait to check out to see what was going on and there were people that were hoping to get a seven plus or a jet-black seven that really bums me out and it they have been waiting since last night so since Thursday night and they're going to wait or sorry Wednesday night they're gonna wait till thursday night and do it I mean that's a these are loyal fans that are waiting for this is this like the apple store just wanting to get press or something or they or did they not know did the people that work there not get this information so that's the thing there's that there's a Miss communication here Apple officially is telling all these news outlets yeah we don't have any but then on the ground the retail managers and associates there these guys talk to four different people and the Miguel and Justin shout out to you guys and out there i hope you doin okay but they asked them and everyone says you know what we don't the classic line and this is true with carriers uh we've been told this we don't know what we're going to get until we get it but to me if you know I know Apple is saying it from the top that there's no seven plus or jet black sevens don't make fans that actually give a crap about you wait in line for two nights just tell just break the news to them yeah that's a bummer I think I think it's it's a horrible we went to even ask we directly went to ask the retail associates on behalf of them the retail associate still wouldn't give us a clear line the guys in line like you know what we're just gonna wait in line if if we can't get it then I guess we'll get a matte black but I'm like but you been waiting here for two days dog I know like a big waste of time to dig waste of time and money someone listings like why didn't you do the pre-order son who does that quite honestly I don't care how people pre-order or try and get these phones if you're a multi-billion dollar company just communicate that effectively the people waiting outside in line that's all I ask yes these guys these poor guys even even on top of that in New York so New York has given the first ten people in line that have been waiting some of them in waiting for more than a few days right over a week or so even more than that just to plot their spot because they don't know what's happening with inventory levels some people 10 people have been given one hundred dollar gift cards from Apple the first ten just because they waited in line and they're not going to get a seven plus or a jet black is that worth your time no it'll buy a third of the air pods or 230 dirt but I you know I just can't these kid these guys were like pumped about Apple they wanted to be in the store and you're just gonna let someone down like that and you know that I'm I said it for the video you guys are producing about that we got we we have we have something special for you in the actual apple byte we're doing the show a day earlier because a I'll be gone tomorrow but we got some special special little some some cooked up for you so up we'll find out how that whole situation plays out but according to Apple directly you not get any any iphone 7 pluses or a jet-black 7 but if you are someone who is going to wait in line so if you hear this you tell your friends tell your children tell your kids tell your wife don't go away don't know and I googled hide them from the apple store that's hide your kids from the apple store um we know that iOS 10 came out and there were some bumps in the road there was the first hour so it was freezing or breaking people's phones telling them to restore the phone then people had to like plug it into itunes and potentially if they didn't back up pretty much lose all their information not be able to update their phone uh if you did not back up that was resolved about an hour to later but the saga of the drama from every iOS rollout day still continues t-mobile is now warning owners of an iphone 6 6 + + 5 SE these three customers they're telling you do not download iOS 10 they're getting reports of connectivity issues I had a few people earlier tweet me like uh is there something wrong with the cell signal because I just updated my phone and I'm on t-mobile and at the time no one really knew what was happening but indeed it looks like to be some compatibility with the carrier and apple and them are both working on a fix but at the moment they're telling you do not do not do this yeah i saw you know i got the update like we were in a meeting and everyone's like iOS tens available now and i was like looking at it and then I start seeing stories like people's phones are breaking so I have not done it yet so I'm not experienced iOS 10 well emp'd everyone wants to jump on it I get it but I put it on a an extra phone first like a kind of like a dummy phone before actually bat alone yeah just like dude would Batman put iOS 10 on his phone on day one probably he probably he would get it he would get it beforehand and then tweak it and modify it so that it would work to his life his Butler like make work out the bugs alpha alpha B right yeah Jeremy Irons the new but the new Alfred me like checking it over masta that's Dewayne I don't think it's a good idea it's not a good idea so just be careful about what's going on over there just just take your time with this iOS app so what what advice would you give to someone like should we wait for Apple to make a patch or are they can announce like we made an update to the update or how's that gonna say yeah they've done that the bay to the updates they did like a for update update last year was an update to the update apple says that it's good to go but t-mobile and Apple specifically are saying hold off okay so I from what I have seen for the most part it is the update is actually working pretty nicely for people but you know if you're if you're a t-mobile person now that we know the facts right now just don't do it um in general i like to wait a day or two before you do the actual upgrade and i think it serves everyone um better just just to wait it out like what what are you on right now i'm on the success but you're on the success success yet why did I think you're on a five because I had a fight for a long time and then I was forced to upgrade to the success when you know there was you won't be able to you have to go to the plan oh yeah you had a changeover yeah so like literally within three hours of midnight I got the success over the phone with apple okay so that I won't have to go through that see yes I didn't I don't know if we talked to we talked about we did yeah it was alone it was like in February giant january or some because I was worried with you I was like um tell me think you have an iphone 5 don't update don't update to iOS handle by the way now like if you're on to me if you're on a 5 or 5s don't update iOS 10 at all the operating system is not really made to be very compatible it'll just be a more frustrating experience that's like such a bummer to hear that mess know it's messed it's messed up though Apple has done this for years and they've kind of it's kind of been swept under the rug there was a class action lawsuit that um by by a group of people who are just saying like look apple just basically saying oh if you have a phone within two years you're okay but if you're not you're pretty much screwed but they're still gonna force you or at times Apple has kind of jokingly recommended you hey it's time to get a new iphone wow you know is this is this latest issue specific to the plus or the iphone 7 and the iphone 7 plus or is it on both phones the t-mobile issue just the the most recent bricking your phone it was it was basically every every phone okay at that I was there's just the seven plus yeah it had it most likely had to do with some sort of authorization on the server level to be like okay green light you're you know you are good to actually download this update and then it gets kind of hung in the middle and then you have to restore your phone I've seen that happen to me when I've been trying to put like you know and that's why they say connect to itunes you have to do the resort they're saying like okay a cup on your computer yeah they're basically saying the computer and your phone are talking each other so it's going to start shop from scratch but so make sure you reboot that just talking about iOS things I love things I don't love I think that look over all iOS is a great improvement and I'm not here to talk poorly about iOS 10 but change can be hard Oh an ins in all cases when we talk about change I have a list of pet peeves here like I'm not gonna call these bad apples these are more pet peeves because well apples not doing it deliberately but um you know I I need to express these to you because I'm sure they're like annoyances right people yeah people that are listening I'm sure are feeling our pain okay this is not affecting everyone because I try to find out what's going on people but it is affecting i would say maybe like half people my number one pet peeve is my battery life I don't know what I'm doing with my phone differently because I'm not but when I'm two hours into the day and thirty percent of my battery's gone and I've just been texting and looking at Twitter occasionally not the whole time like that that doesn't that's not right my phone never went down that low and when my phones like basically at ten percent at like 2pm all right something's yeah that there's a problem what I mean is different for every iOS upgrade that I've had to do there's some change in my phone that I have to go you know some setting have to go change so I'm sure like someone here at in our office will figure it out make a how to video how to extend the battery life on here I so I'm sure that's gonna come out and there will be i mean i'll i'll do it for you it's called turn off everything that makes iOS 10 iOS 10 yeah it's right off everything that's turn off raised awake tracking you and all that stuff to all the notifications they look nice and they're pretty but i think look the way that they display them and it's like all baba wawa I got imagine that's actually taking up more resources than it had beginning problem Ross just goes from a low-level standpoint you know yeah I have bluetooth on everything like that but it's it's a it's a power hug some guys like dude mine only went down two percent I'm like did you plug it in again during the days like oh yeah I did I get are you kidding me are you effing kidding me dude seriously know that a bad apple that a bad apple a' another another thing the changing of the home button this is like riled people are not experienced oh my gosh so basically iOS 10 changes it where it asks you to physically push down on the home button to unlock your screen but for years we have been trained to swipe to unlock or just rest your finger on the home screen and it unlocks right asking us to physically push it like our brains aren't working that way like it's really been trained to do it another this is this is the world's greatest first world problem it's at the damn home button okay and so there's a way I I couldn't stand I couldn't take it and so there's a way I put it on my Twitter and it blew up a little bit i saw that right it hella blew up it was like it was cool it was a cool workaround but it was still like three different steps you had today it's always raised away it's call a setting homie so basically you like on your settings general accessibility find the home button and then after that there's a rest to touch or something like this raised to wake no no there's raised awake that's a different thing there's so many things rest to touch where basically you can write or rest to unlock we're basically you touch your finger on the home button instead of actually pressing it and then it'll lock your phone because that's what we've been doing for years okay I have it you want me to play this video from you know that's it's so fast yeah people can hear how know if they can hear I can make it turn it up okay i'll see we've got yer okay here's how to change the settings if you hate pressing down that hole button let's jump into it go on your settings fine general fine accessibility scroll skool skool find that home button home button home button home home right there and then look right here rest finger to open turn that bad boy on I'm going to come out here got my phone I'm gonna put his sleep let's do the Rays to wake raised a week and then depressed and stressed my finger on it boom shakalaka that that that's that too bad yeah that's how you solve first world problems I'm changing lives I'm changin live via Twitter video via Twitter video so that that bug meet the crap on me but everyone's like thank you i can't i can't do i can't deal with this thank you like met grown men were saying i love you like ice and I would just because I enjoy that it is always the fact that someone loves you because you showed them a tip on their phone I'll just write back to like I love you too man i straight-up watch that because I didn't want to know that right now from when i get mine some guys like my wife loves you and i'm like i love your wife her I mean and he thought like you know I just like to mess with people so that's another thing that I don't like notifications you get a boatload notifications but they don't group them together so really yeah so like you know if you had five email notifications yeah just a bunch them together yeah now it's like every time you get an email it's a different that goes into a fetal into its own little bubble mmm every action is our own bubble that's a problem that's and they dated that's stupid that's still I don't like that um the keyboard and the lock sounds they've changed them like let me see if I can even capture this it's so it's a little obnoxious it's like did you like bro did you really have to change that bra like for real so let me see if I can get into something here it's like this and then like changes sound and it like um it it's like trying to be creative but it's no it's not trying to be like bb-8 or sun during a listless stripes and see if i can get see might get this for you I don't hear I can't hear okay it's okay don't worry no one can hear it forget it that failed and off yeah what is bro um but everyone that knows how annoying that that think the little tap x like and then it's I used to like it how is more like kind of now it's like it's like boot it's like bubble pops it's like the type you see we can flying in on YouTube no do this I slow so it's like I almost 10 but it's like poop it's like a boop boop boop it just it's just not good so I don't want to linger on that but and the lock sound sounds like and it's weird it doesn't sound like a close it's like a us back with another video and I am going to show you guys that that's not it it's never mind sorry anyway so that's kind of annoying then the probably the biggest thing is I don't know about you all but I do turn off the reduce motion effects do you return those I know I don't think I've ever played with that okay so this is like when you're using your operating system it does these like every time you open an app it does like zoom into that oh yeah I hate that crap right yeah I hate that animation stuff so they the new my messages I messages has all these crazy you know confetti filters and different you know invisible ink and all that stuff if you turn on the reduce affects the motion effects option which is only supposed to affect the phone and like the parallax effect that's like when you look side to side it looks kind of 3d but it's not and some of the animations oh yeah if you turn that off it affects I messages which is a totally different app it doesn't have anything to do yeah someone's gonna say oh it's reduce motion effects in the description in the settings it says visual enhancements that have to do with the parallax you know effect for icons and moving in on the interface like don't tell me confetti falling or invisible ink has to do with motion effects so if you happen to turn that off because you want your phone to work snappier like just jump in apps yeah you lose the ability to use I messages in that way and I'm like this is completely unrelated like that's a bum they're not related at all stupid man first two that's another first world problem they'll be like Cinnabon this whole list is first real problems okay and then I got I got your WTF for the day oh okay so no everyone's time out their iphone but then you're talking about their iPad okay but i'm gonna show you what tell me how does this make sense okay on the ipad they have a movie app they have a podcast app and they have a music app okay let me show you the movie app you know how it is right it's like laid out you have all your tiles and icons or anything right this is very normal right you watch a movie you play it it goes full screen i'm not going to show you any more than I have to now the podcast app is a little different because it's like you have all your podcast here but then when you play them it has like this tiny navigation bar autumn right it doesn't fill the screen right this is tiny ass navigation bar your psyche okay yeah fine okay I can lift it up I can get it full screen yay good right we got that but by default by default we don't really want to go to that screen oh you don't you just want it to pop up oh yeah now let's go to the music app this is my favorite thing that they did here not okay so it'll really good little more you're gonna love you in Haiti more okay so fine you have like the ability to go to your library and you have this drop-down a playlist and artist I'm gonna go to my place here im gonna pick a playlist and yes or some music might play out of here I'm going to try and not make it play just so that it doesn't undisrupted but when you play a song let me show you what it looks like do you think it's gonna go fullscreen I have no idea okay let me um let me try hope it would you hope it would okay let me show you what happens when you try and play a song here let's get a good one okay here we go this is what the interface looks like oh it's this random it's like a shaped it's basically like they took part of like the phone OS uh-huh and just popped it here on the side yeah totally and it hasn't you see all this ugly crap in the background that does nothing and there's just empty white it stays easier it's just this little column on the far right like who the heck made this crap like where's my beautiful music like where's my beautiful music it's over here in the corner this is so stupid but that's that's just for the ipad right yeah but like they yeah they just made it totally different I don't know I should stop complain about my first pathetic trust me I'm just only complained cuz like we all like this is like you it's new its new we're all supposed to complain yeah all right let's get you to change is hard change change is hard um but also a change that maybe is just hard to actually happen or make happen apple and title we've heard all title the music service we've heard all these rumors about Apple acquiring title but according to Apple music head Jimmy Iovine he told BuzzFeed news directly we are not looking to acquire any streaming services you know what that means we are going to acquire a streaming sir like saying the opposite how many times in business have you I'm we're just messing around here but don't we wouldn't be surprised and the reason why is there been so much talk about this but title recently released their latest earnings and for basically what is this they was acquired in early 2015 by jay-z and a group of other musicians right they made this huge splash but according to their filings title took on a net loss of roughly 28 million dollars last year ma'am purely because of the you know how much it costs to restream and the money that they're pouring in based on the user's how many people actually using their service they think they have roughly around four million 4.2 million pain subscribers right now but that's just not enough to cut it apples is around 17 million Spotify just announced as they flex their muscle there at 40 million paid subscribers for supply that's pretty big so the two beasts right now are gonna be Spotify and Apple yeah title do you think those multi millionaires who are all about business want to keep on losing money like that hell no hell no no but you know what i think title like they had a good model where they're gonna have exclusive artists on just their platform for a while but they I think they blow it by letting the artists get their stuff on iTunes right away you know like a week later a week if they if they hung on to those things like maybe a month or so I think that would definitely increase some numbers I don't know a hundred percent agree with you the the thing is that they they were freaked out because they realized oh people are still using the other services instead of like you said it's scared it's like why not just be strong for a month I mean let's be honest it's not like they're need money right now no I mean we know the money game but if they want to change the wave of how things are going you just got to kind of hold out why do you think people go on strike because they're trying to change the wave of what's happening to move in their favor you can't put out a song and then a week later give it to apple music and spot yeah you can't say it's this is exclusive on title for one week I mean come on that's that's nothing like a week as as a flash in the pan or even two weeks people are like I got it in two weeks yeah good I'll I'll listen to whatever else people are throwing up online so I can hear it first but i'll get in in two weeks I wonder where YouTube music comes into this because they're like a huge player too but they never really seemed to get mentioned in all these sort of music streaming use stories you know I think YouTube is always you know they kinda have their google music service in the background but they just never been a big player because people just don't think of them as a music service I know right in psychology all listen to music for sure too costly for video to boot you know and they were hoping they can convert that but it's just not happening that's weird right there there's a point where sometimes no matter what you have you you're late to the game and people just aren't gonna jump on like what for you would you all of a sudden just switch loyalties to youtube music right now no haha but I mean I do i watch a vivo and I'll watch a commercial to watch a video it's no problem so I mean I you know I probably use it just as much as I do any other platform like iTunes or something it's true it's true so um don't worry right now Apple and title are staying apart but I'm curious to see what titles future is because they can't continue to lose money like that they're artists aren't in the business of losing money you just got to take our advice be strong keep your stuff exclusive on title next usher album if you really care sure go to title I'll buy it if you go to if you hold out long enough it's like Usher available on title and it's like a week later I could buy it on iTunes I'm not gonna go over to title no I don't connect Lee why would I do that so there you go all right uh we forgot to mention our phone number at the top of the show because we wanted to jump right into it which typically leads to people not calling but I can tell you right now you guys call us a lot so the number is 1 800 61 62 63 84 your voicemails your name where you're from your comments your questions we're gonna zip through these we've we wanted to give you guys some extra love today so we're gonna go through a bunch all right here we go call number one numero uno figure out from started oh no what was the one thing hey Brian I was wondering if you were able to figure out from the keynote what was the one thing that we cannot live without on this new iphone my guess is the Nintendo but hey we'll see I agree Nintendo well they got us they put in the little Nintendo sneak ball yeah this is in reference to Tim Cook's um you know remarks on CNBC maybe like three or four months ago that we're gonna show you something you can't live without and he was really excited about and we made fun of him for saying that yeah I had the Mario up in his pocket he was just like dying to pull it out and go guru guru did you do jack I do go doo-doo-doo-doo doo-doo-doo-doo doo-doo-doo-doo doo-doo-doo-doo haha so I don't know I really I can't say what that feature was because there was a there was not one it's like like I'm like I've said don't stop saying the word magical like I know what magic looks like like it's a rabbit out of a hat yeah it's david copperfield walking through the Great Wall of China on a TV special it's david blaine nude inside a block of ice that's that's magic that is actually wasn't only nude right well he might have been in his undies well yeah yeah that block of ice thing that was crazy what's crazy to DES Haluk did he do one where he's underwater also for a suitable yeah I don't know if that one worked out very good I think they had to drain it earlier something cuz he like freaked it was like he was trying to do it for days but it like I didn't happen yeah yeah and then there was another one he just stood up on a high like thing just up on this little bit like a few things like a week you just did there in New York yeah kind of like using um wet latina trans mints yes yeah that I mean blame duty blame pulled like a threat out of his stomach on a TV special i know i love to scare house i do that's magic said okay next god thanks girl hey Brian hey Stephen my name is Matt I'm from jacksonville florida and with the removal of the headphone jack on the iphone 7 do you think they're going to do that with all their products across the board or do you think it'll be like an iphone exclusives saying like the 3d touch on the iphones and no other product love the show guys thanks thanks for calling man uh I definitely agree with you it's kind of like the Gateway right now the iphone is the play to get the idea of it into the mass market without affecting and really shaking people's brains too much just because people the phone is a one on one relationship meaning you know you have a TV and like one TV can be shared with four or five people but a phone everyone has a phone and is going to get a phone so once you start introducing behaviors to that whether they like them or not just kind of start getting used to it and you kind of use that as the gateway drug to then get people to adopt these different behaviors on something like your iPad next maybe now laptops desktops it's going to take a take a while before that happens you know this whole lightning connection because it's still Apple proprietary you're more likely going to see a USB digital connection they're going to fight each other this is kind of like firewire and USB back in the day for video there's going to be a digital light you know lightning vs. USB and there they will I don't know if they're gonna stand side by side are they going to keep them separate my platform but I can't see it at least in the next year to every device being like this is like five years out I mean I would not put it past Apple because we've seen the optical drive disappear we've seen tons of USB ports disappear all kinds of ports disappearing so I would not put it past them I wouldn't either it's not going to be within the next two years yeah definitely not just from a standard like certain things need to work with other things an iphone can be independent it's really like its own mini computer yeah so can live in on the island a laptop a little different but it it's going to happen eventually it's their vision so yeah okay next call uh Jonathan the Bay Area I just wanted you to talk about of the fact that they didn't mention anyone who bought that Apple watch goal apple watch edition version there's no upgrade program they just said with a ten-thousand-dollar old watch i jacked you thought yeah you're you're stuck with the ten-thousand-dollar old watch like it was replaced by the ceramic one which is 1249 but that'll give us next year honestly i don't i'm glad that i personally don't know some person I don't know anyone personally who bought the damn gold edition watch like I would question myself if I literally knew someone who did that that i would call my friend because I no yeah I don't know anyone either but that should make any way like a celebrity that should make us feel good yeah that we don't know someone who caught the gold edition watch that speaks highly of you as a person all right next call hey guys Vince Brennan ingleton Ohio so the w1 ship is great technology on point Khan was wondering why they wouldn't apply that to the Bluetooth speaker whether if you Apple were be either one wouldn't even have it I'm Alexa echo kind of deal going on as well so what you guys thought on that it's got to be coming eventually I would think but thanks you either I think he's putting the pieces out there and he's picking them up and put into them together I with without a doubt this w one chip is their chip of the future from managing all audio devices from a standpoint of why haven't they put in this speaker yet it's most likely because they already have their own speaker product that they want to launch with it and then from a headphone standpoint you've got again you've got to get people comfortable with the idea of using a technology a certain way I think earphones headphones is an easy way to get people to be like oh I see how this is and then all of a sudden you're like oh yeah now all your speakers are they do have the w1 chip in beats headphones so we know beats makes other stereo proddy o products it's going to happen we'll just wait and see how long it takes there's probably one of those chips in a speaker in like an RD room somewhere oh yeah headquarters oh yeah for sure for sure okay next call hey guys my name is yasir i'm calling from Toronto Canada love the show up in listening and watching for a really long time both of you're doing a great job so my question for you guys is for all these people that are just looking for phones for processing power so they're able to install apps that can do more do you think there's going to be any performance difference between the seven and the seven plus and for those of us already on the success is there worth upgrading thanks so from early benchmarks we do it's not official by Apple but the word based on these benchmarks is that the seven plus does have three gigs of ram compared to the seven which is equipped with two gigs of ram the reality though is there's nothing where we've seen the seven plus be so much more advantageous that you have to have it to do major processing tasks are they both faster camera yeah unless your camera guy mean that's really the seven plus is more about the camera than it is about the processor we aren't seeing any specific apps written directly to take advantage of all that power so if you're looking for quote unquote the most powerful Apple phone shurfine get the three gig one but that's just on paper the actual result it it's probably not going to be that much bigger of a difference for you yeah and and screen size right people three assess those two things you're getting you're getting those phones for other things versus you know raw power okay next call hey guys my name is yeah I'm calling ya hey ya sir what's up yo sorry guys Michael from New Jersey I'm calling so did pretty much angry at Apple right now first reason is for all the Apple customers that purchase the iphone an upgrade program they everyone knows that they don't have enough stock so people aren't able to reserve their iphone now all new newer reports are coming out of that they're going to take from their store spot to give back to the other people who preordered already and we're on the upgraded iphone program which makes sense but if Apple was to roll out a new program they shouldn't have issues with supply if they're going to say that everyone who upgraded uh who was on this new program should automatically able to get a rifle so double bed Apple this is a disaster for now people waiting online people are not going to wait on line this should have been thought out alright thanks love the show by one hundred percent agree there were reports that because Apple did such a poor job with the iphone upgrade program again it's the program that you signed up to basically garen to yourself the ability to upgrade when the next iPhone comes out a lot of people didn't a lot of people were set were said told that okay fine I want to pick this up at a store they weren't able to when some were pushed to be able to pick it up from a store the inventory was already gone later on Apple did reach out to some but again not all so not everyone was happy about this some iphone upgrade owners to be able to get the 7 plus that they hoped for and pick it up they were reached out and contacted directly but again this didn't happen to everyone the majority of people were left out in the dust it's ridiculous there was a class action lawsuit that is being put together against the iphone upgrade program and i think it's a bummer because clearly they over-promised under-delivered that's like one of the cardinal sins and just customer service and retail and if you were hoping to get an iphone and you got screwed by Apple you should be unhappy but also you're like well what can I do they don't even have the phone to the stores so remember them like selling this pitching this is like oh if you have the plan if you're on the plan you're gonna get the phone first before everyone you have it right away lumumba so the first time they're doing it there's already hiccups it's it's a disaster as he said and phone call that's a bad apple that bad that's a bad apple right there ok another call got two more hey Brian I just wanted to say i love your streams i love your videos men keep up the good work and i also wanted to get your take on the new jet black color I know that color is uh very easily and prone to scratch I wanted to know if you're gonna get that color would you put a case a clear case or a hard protective case on it thanks man he's putting me on the spot cuz he's like yeah I know it scratches and are you gonna get it my pre order was for the iphone 7 jet black oh but see I I'll be the first one to make fun of it because Apple just basically every year dictates a new color is the new black right yes it was like gold was the new black three years ago rose gold was the new black lash and this year jet black is the new black so you know they come up with a cool color I'm gonna definitely put a case on that thing I'm probably gonna because I if I got jet black I should probably try to show it off oh yeah you gotta show it off like the first week at least yeah something like that so I'll get some sort of clear case put it on there and then I'll put one of my fancy shmancy like trendy cases that looks like a tropical island and then it'll be done with so you got me I got it I always get these like really thin Matt cases yeah those are dope these are pretty much they feel good in here I think the matte black actually looks really cool for the others with iphone okay okay next last call hi my name is Matthew and I'm from Detroit Michigan my question is about this October event we might be having do you think to introduce a new version of ilife and I a completely redone version I work with the new collaboration features and what do you think they're going to do with the macbook air I know what they're going to do with the macbook pro but what do they can do with the air and do you think they'll lower the price of the pro I really hope they do because 1999 is way too hot all right there's a lot of questions here let me try and get through them first of all with I work I expect us to see some level of I sorry of ilife stuff but I wouldn't be surprised if it gets pushed until next year for the ipad event with that is rumored we do expect to see some sort of macbook imac event this october but the reason why i say pushing over to the ipad is because if they are really going to do this on the ipad and they are really are going to show us some level of collaboration they've kind of got to show it to us working on both products maybe they maybe they don't you know we got a little tease of i work at the apple event recently maybe they go full force with it on the max but i think you've got to involve both components of what is your productivity platforms obviously all macs and then maybe depending on how you define productivity the ipad pro but I life hasn't been touched for a while I think they're starting to show you even in their photos app that they're trying to automate this stuff more like memories do things like that the videos that kind of set stuff together they're almost like focusing on more automated stuff that just happens because they don't necessarily believe people have um you know the time the goof with this stuff but I think iphoto and imovie if you really look at them do you do you desperately need a significant overhaul with them and because it typically targets the general consumer probably not so I just went I would be surprised if they gave us anything major in the form of ilife also because the resources are spent in like other places they've got so many different products so I hope they do something but we'll see and then he also asked Oh MacBook Airs yeah this one you might be sad but I think the macbook air line as we know it is a most likely going to go away so I think the new product line after all is said and done will be the 12 inch macbook which is the USBC one this is the ultra-thin that is really to me going to be the new macbook air and then beyond that you'll get a 13-inch macbook pro and a 15-inch macbook pro that's just what my gut tells me the macbook pros will obviously have that oled touch bar but that macbook air is thicker than the current ultra-thin macbook it's thinner than the big mac book but based on how you see their design concepts work the macbook air is really an old dated design so I really feel like it's going to go away or it might serve as like the entry-level laptop and they won't really do much with speed boost but it'll be the ultra thin and then the regular macbook pros yeah maybe they like make it some sort of educational exactly exactly so that that's that's what I think it is but hey I could be wrong that's all we got man oh my goodness i guess the keeping the show tight still went to three o'clock i know right hahahahaha toga toga it's all good baby okay everybody thank you so much for listening to hanging out with us again is the apple byte extra crunchy you can call us leave your voicemails be a part of our show 1 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