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Tuesday March 6 good morning everybody I'm BVG it's the 359 podcast episode 365 your host today are Alfred a and Roger Chang and what the hell are we talking about what are we talking about the Internet is terrible that's why we're talking pretty much it yeah something we're in the right place it's not all terrible we're gonna be talking about well we're gonna talk about Twitter and the right way to use Twitter Alfred has some nice tips I will also be talking about flying cars Porsche making a flying car that's that's exciting the goofiest thing I've ever seen but their Porsche so you know they can do it and then lastly we'll be talking about the new surface pro with LTE Cena has a new review on it but we really want to talk about whether or not we really want a separate cellular connection to our laptops and tablets like it oh I you know let's save it for the show yeah anyway you have any questions with these topics leave them in the comments section Brian will pick up the best and we'll get to them in 3 minutes and 59 seconds from 3 to welcome to the 359 I'm Roger Cheng I'm Alfred hang so apparently there is a right way and a wrong way to share and quote tweet on Twitter Alfred you broke it down it's basically why some quote cheats tweets are really terrible for the internet yeah so this happened in mid-february when all these like conspiracy theories about the Parkland students were going around and then people were basically quote tweeting them where they were basically this is wrong don't like the site you know what is that it's basically their quote wiing these tweets about allegations that these students weren't actually students there yeah yeah that there were crisis actors but the idea was they quote tweeted it so they could you know basically say this is wrong and we're against this but by doing that they ended up actually getting it way more views than it ever would have gotten it's kind of like drawing attention to something that you like really don't like want like our against right so you know I I saw a listen I'm just saying why are you even quote tweeting or engaging with them in the first place just take a screenshot like if you look at my Twitter feed any time I criticize something it's almost always a screenshot and I never put a link out to it so just you're feeding into the machine whenever you quote yeah because a lot of the way social media works is that you know they don't have like analysis of like intent they don't say like oh this person retweeted this or quote like responded to it because they hate it right they just responded to it and we're gonna boost it up Facebook and Twitter both work that way where as long as it gets engagement it's more likely to appear in your read it you know obviously with Russia and the headlines I mean Russian trolls the internet research agency how much do they kind of bank on this is actually that's like that's like the majority of like their operations it's like how many people can we get hot and bothered on social media so then they'll quote tweet no outrage quote tweet and it's propel this thing yeah they had done this in Ukraine too when they when they kind of test it out they're like trolling program yeah where was essentially they would go and comment on a bunch of stuff with like really controversial stuff and then all these other people would come and argue on it and then it's like bump up to the top of everyone's newsfeed so like if you have to engage and if you have to like criticize something don't like respond like just don't even bother responding just take a screenshot of it and then like just talk about it on your own feed there you go another case where social media ruins everything all right so on a brighter note Porsche apparently is making a flying car you have an executive confirmed to CNET that the sports car maker is indeed working on this forget autonomous driving Porsche wants to take to the skies so do you think this is gonna spur I need trend with automakers this is some sort of random one this is so random it's just out of nowhere they held by the way we got flying cars and it's just like why would you even think about like if you're gonna make like a flying thing that somebody can sit in and travel in just do it I was like a drone or like what everyone else is doing because that makes a lot more sense for flying than this like two-ton like a heap of metal if it's like it kind of reminds me of the old battle cartoon mask with a sports car the doors flip open and turn into wings like I kind of want I do that with all my toy cars yeah I did yeah I just think of like something from like Blade Runner though if like the flying cars in like 20 49 right yeah that that's like immediately what I thought off but like I saw like I mean that's like our own art on it so it's not what Porsche is trying to do I don't know I I highly doubt it I said though they're planning for something around like 2025 good luck yeah alright lastly scene I just reviewed these surface pro with LTE Alfred would you pay for a separate connection to your tablet or computer I mean it depends how much but most likely no I mean they already offer that for a lot of tablets and it just it doesn't make any sense to me when I can just you know use my phone that I already pay a wireless connection for as a hotspot for it it's funny though cuz those connected iPads with LTE are pretty popular but it's for whatever reason when it comes to like pcs it's it's been a harder sell I don't know why I think because most of the times people associate pcs with something like oh I can just connect to Wi-Fi yeah and if you think about I mean I guess it's different cuz we're in New York but like there's Wi-Fi everywhere that's true yep alright if you're at an airport newsstand check out the latest issue of CNET magazine featuring modern families Jesse Tyler Ferguson for more of these stories check us out on CNN on Roger Chang I'm Alfred ring thanks for listening roads where we're going we don't need roads sorry I couldn't help myself no I want I want a car like that on a hover car flank our hover no flying cars doing any sense to me only because like I feel like nobody's ever addressed like traffic in any of these sci-fi movies with flying it just sort of falls the flow there's like everyone has their own lane all of a sudden and I don't know if you dost usually that there are like lanes like there's usually kind of like this like batch of cars going all kind of the same vicinity but you see lanes of yeah but like if it's flying though then you can literally just like get out of it and then go you know yep presumably though I mean the same logic applies with the streets right like well technically I can just drive off yeah but there's notes and stuff on the street but like in the sky there are maybe they're buildings and other and you know there needs to be there needs to be clear roadways in the sky or else to crash into everyone yeah alright yeah flying cars are weird I like seeing them in sci-fi movie and they're really be traffic in the sky at me mang but I can go twice as high that's meeting rainbow yes there can be if there enough cars I suppose but I mean like we handle it I don't know this is I'm gonna get crucified for saying this but we handle traffic right here on the ground add the third dimension I don't know but we have we have roads and streets we have designated areas where cars go I'm just saying they're probably gonna be designated areas in the sky where where cars have to go it's certainly and then what happens in like in like a if you're in a flying car you get a car accident like what happens there do you house landed or do you hover there and then you just yell out your insurance information at like the other person who's also in the air you'd have to land it just seems a lot easier to get out be able to talk to someone in person another thing about like hit and runs oh yeah cars but although all the flying cars will look awesome cuz Porsche is making them that's just and like all three people will be able be yeah pretty a car we're gonna be wrong they got it where it counts illustration from our resident photo genius oil that's pretty sweet we talked about cars on this show I think it it none of us really car folks yeah we're not qualified to get excited about flying in yeah exactly that's why the only reason we're talking about this cuz it's it's a flying car if this was a regular car we wouldn't even touch it yeah we're not allowed let's jump into the chat Steve Marino says I just couldn't I couldn't resist this one Alfred uh maybe your retweets are ruing the interwebs mine are fresh AF yeah like summary tweets are pretty good like there's a lot of good retweets out there you're just trying to show that there are consequences and how the algorithm is fly my point is like don't get yourself in like a wily coyote situation where like just backfires in your face where it's like I hate this thing so much everybody look at this thing that I hate yeah it turns out that I actually ended up helping it like because that happens a lot yeah it does and it's just that's that's rage posting is like you have to ignore the impulse to rage post yeah a lot of people do that and if you do have to do it then just take a screenshot like the screenshots are so much more efficient they don't they don't like help out the person that you're trying to you know criticize or anything like that and has given you your own numbers yeah and you you should yeah you should like can do so much more screenshots that's I like just screenshot everything I mean that's what a lot of like in so grandma if you like do you ever just see Twitter post on Instagram yeah yeah yeah taking screenshots and posting it there and then getting all the likes for themselves instead of like actually helping out it's true the person you know what else I've noticed how all these systems are so broken Instagram has the stories feature now and the stories feature is always just I made a new post go see it yeah because the timeline is so screwed right what when are we gonna fix this like I mean I mean it sucks now I like stories though I like it because when they're actually original there's plenty of applications where they're legit but most of the time anything I follow all their story is by the way I made a real post saying it basically solves the kind of broken system that is the actual Instagram feed so why couldn't we just run chronology well yeah that makes too much sense and it does make too much yes I mean when Twitter did away with that people were annoyed I'm still pissed about it but I do kind of want to learn more about that what Twitter is going to do to address this algorithm and do we have any information on that well yeah they Jack Dorsey Twitter CEO last week he had put out a series of tweets talking about basically hey we know what we're doing is wrong here we didn't really expect for people to take advantage of our algorithm like that we're working on fixing this and then there at the end there was like an open call if anyone has any ideas please like do it like cuz we've got none yeah please post it here on that this website it's in my story I don't remember that URL off the top of my head but yeah he's like crowdsourcing for advice now on this thing so I'm like it's the same message every time they like this comes up it's a go we're sorry we're very sorry yeah I feel like I'm just gonna send my article and the suggestion feed just give us there you go you give them a screenshotting tool but you think and just use like with it yeah great idea I mean even if Twitter doesn't want to implement I bet one of the browser's could I think chrome would do it oh yeah I mean you can already do screenshots and like draw on them on like edge but right but let me use his edge though right no I'm just saying like custom filter it so it's like you know tweets eyes kind of thing yeah they're temporaries that would be great or any of those social network right yeah yeah all right next question coming in from Scott my data plans for laptop tablets don't sound good to me as full network coverage from my phone is still not there so why pay extra yeah if the network coverage that's not there yeah if your network coverage is not great then this is not a help I would argue even if no one coverage is great it may not even do that because of what Alfred said like you know Wi-Fi is pretty ubiquitous and you're not really always on the go I guess you know if you spend time on the train and a commute maybe there might be helpful to you but I also have you can also pay for a hotspot capability on your phone yeah I don't really don't know why people would get a laptop just with LTE or anything like that right I mean we've got plenty I mean you guys go out in the field all the time and do your reporting if coverage was there this would be a valuable because I usually don't bring my laptop with me when I do like field reporting anyway I mean I'd be like mostly in your mobile I guess I mean I like to write a story but like you're not like there writing as you're writing I'm at a press conference okay yeah there's usually Wi-Fi at those things in mine that's the thing like Wi-Fi is not always special if you got a lot of people using the same network so sometimes it's I just I have a hotspot capability on my phone so I just use that yeah right yeah it would be nice to have it built into my laptop so I don't drain the battery on my phone yeah yeah yeah and I mean there's plenty of instances to where you're not in a controlled conference type situation yeah it could be out at some street level kind of event kind of thing going on although I would say what I wouldn't have my lap I would probably be enough banging out of a quick email month yeah opposed to typing my laptop all right like thinking about like I usually cover like iPhone releases when I'm on the line talking to people usually yeah like Roger knows I like I'll send notes on my phone and then like we'll have a story up like based on that right I'm not gonna be there with my laptop like typing the story as I'm talking to people or anything like that that's a good point I was trying to think that you guys might be into more situations where it might be more valuable but we do want to know if anyone else out there and chat land has situations with anything this could be valuable to them I personally don't want this because they never let me leave this as anyways so I mean I guess depends on how much it cost it was like five bucks like I'll think about it but yeah there's also limitations to the data plans - yeah they're not yeah you're not streaming movies non-stop oh what what is it DC four one seven is my new favorite person in the chat with the combat data plan if you're ever wondering Simpsons quotes always win me over and uh while we're at it and completely distracted Thank You Eli for congratulations on our 365 podcasts we love doing it hey it's always great to reach this milestone now you can listen to a 3:59 podcast every day for a fool that's what he's saying is every day of the year so just thank you for then always thank you for everybody for being here and joining us yeah Josh Boyd uh flying cars are actually really impractical if you think about it if you need a full-on flight plan just to figure out landing and takeoff yo they really go into a lot of detail about how this system could not it's like well this thing can get off the ground it's almost as if CEOs can just say crazy things I don't get I need like an entire new division of government though like international government to handle oh there are so there are recreational planes now that you can actually just fly you can basically when you're not in major city or Airport the skies are fairly clear like as long as you're in a certain elevation but if this starts to become a consumer level yeah product that will change this is by the way that I like the icon a5 it's a consumer plane people just take it up as a as a hobby like rather than a boat you've got a you've got a plane that you fly so I don't know the early on there they're probably gonna be some experimentation but you're right they're gonna be there we'll definitely need to be regulations down the line okay Danny Green brings up a good point uh a lot of people don't trust public Wi-Fi yeah perhaps having being to that to your LTE daddy know where you are yeah my boy that is a fantastic point public Wi-Fi is obviously my boy yeah there's a lot of there are a lot of users with an LTE connection would I mean more you'd be a lot more confident than LT Connect also I just feel like it's kind of silly to get an LTE connected laptop now considering that like 5g will probably be available soon whoa let's slow our horses down five g's yeah they say it'll be available like late this year early next year but it's not really gonna be broadly available it's gonna be available in like five I just feel like it's like buying like a VHS player and oh right before yeah yeah but hey he's gonna be around for like millennial it they're called VCRs what the player itself it's called a video cassette recorder it's a VCR oh whatever they did they didn't exist one who's alive yeah that's them my point I might makes my skin crawl when they call them VHS I wouldn't I wouldn't say anything we need ways like Bhaiji cuz like built-in 5g laptops are probably a ways away but I'm saying you already have Wi-Fi now so like right you its LT he's gonna go away yeah well I'm like yeah I know it's not gonna go away but like I'd rather have the one that's capable of let's talk about cars again I like this comment from Jared Glynn if cars start flying they must be at least some kind of autonomous and it has to be standardized now users should have a special license to be able to put the car in manual in flight mode I can't imagine like any world where we can't exist with a special license to fly a myriad is whether you were controlling it or not whatever I'm so interested in flying cars when it's clear like there was another the previous comment you had noted about how like cars are you know impractical yeah we should have flying motorcycles first okay like just it's way light really cold up there this is much lighter and then you can like look I watched Acura man that movie like with the Laurel like copter car cycles or whatever way to cure yeah that was not an Akira yeah was they had when they were in the tunnel or whatever they had the the flying oh the security bike yeah he's keeping him of the main but they did kind of straight up fly didn't they yeah they actually raised in altitude you're right yeah they should have those first man like forget them forget the cars lose like hover bikes or they like actually look around no no they they definitely increased in altitude and got off the ground ground okay I'd call them flying bikes yeah we should have like a harley-davidson about that yeah and then you know before that maybe flying horse and carriage I know somebody in Greece has done it before buying steamboat yeah yeah we gotta like you know baby steps yeah yeah yeah I do got a reset the entire system start flying with like horse and buggy alright we are just so about out of time but let's talk about Wi-Fi a little bit more one more from Scott Myatt if you pay for data through the tablet would that make the connection more secure compared to Wi-Fi could you implement other software measures perhaps it this is this is me riffing on Skype question are there even more securities to the hardware using a laptop versus say your phone I don't know if there's a difference between the phone laptop but it's definitely cure than Wi-Fi yeah yeah so with LTE like that's like people have tried hacking it for a while now and it's not like it's unhackable like there there's been situations where like they use stingrays for stuff like that sure that's not something that like an average person get their hands on right whereas you know an average person could definitely like breach like your Wi-Fi if it's not that secure so yeah LT is definitely much more secure for something like that as far as like the difference between like a laptop and your phone goes I would have to say it depends on like what like version of like security like like if you have an old Android phone and you're using LTE on it that might not oh that's true that's the point yeah yeah they don't need like it doesn't matter what like version you're on kind of it like I mean it's less about the the connection to the Internet and more the phone software exactly if you download a bad app like it doesn't matter if you're using LTE or Wi-Fi right you're gonna get breeze yeah exactly so for a closing thought I like this comment from Danny Green I want a car like George Jetson that folds down into a briefcase size for me to carry oh yeah what features are going to be central for flying cars that aren't standard in regular cars I know we all want cupholders and we all want bluetooth what as a feature of a flying car that we all need okay so if norm driving cars have airbags this I mean that flying cars have like cement bags the hell it works yeah that's all they just punch in the face basically I think cars need to come standard with parachutes probably GPS like everything it outside the box yeah wheels good wheels well what if it is a flying car going to fly and drive presumably yeah okay like the boat car like the James Bond car yeah yeah wait the submarine one yeah yeah that was cool it could do all of the above it wasn't just like a car underwater this isn't just a car for the sky right it's a car that can take off as well yes you could drive it on regular roads and then when you you know you don't need the roads you don't have the roads also that off that Jetson car that fits into a briefcase like heaven good don't even read it I don't even need that car to be flying just if there was a normal car that would be perfectly okay with it but again how heavy would that briefcase be if you really think it through like even if it folds down and still has the same kind of mass weight right but let's think about it well something about parking space like true yeah you wouldn't even need to carry it so right inherently those poor sport cars are typically lighter they have more what is that fiberglass in the frame or something sure let's say that I don't car people I don't know anything about cars but I think that's kind of part of what makes a sport car sport car is lighter lighter basketball okay so to get that thing off the ground they're probably gonna have to re-engineer that to be even lighter right now I'm not saying you can palm a Porsche but I think they're gonna have to bring that into consideration so okay flying cars are probably going to be lighter than Rick they will be but I don't think that's a don't think you'll be able to lift I mean the Wakanda government was able to make a flying ship with like vibranium so I think yeah but that wasn't a light ship and um yeah white it was still heavy yeah but was able to take off and like get around right right that's that's fact yeah this is real this is a real country yeah alright so I already think up your wish list for flying cars yeah I got this again soon I'm sure but until then we are out of time for the day rice cooker but being that we are in New York and there is the mother of all storms yamming there is a very good chance we might not broadcast tomorrow yeah because we might not be able to get here to the studio although maybe we will maybe we'll like Trek our way in and just do another like 80s movies random podcast it'll be weird if we do one yeah but there's no big news besides like it's snowing yeah it's a bit it'll be a big if cuz it doesn't look like it's gonna be pretty 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