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good morning everybody on Tuesday February's seventh and somehow and by God's grace we have made it to episode 175 Wow well that's a milestone that is kind of minnie mouse minnie milestone good morning Roger Tsien and Ben Fox Rubin what is up guys what is up Wow 135 that is that's impressive I'm realize you haven't fireside that's that feels really good days aren't over yet then shout out to a mirror who's in the chat and feeling nerdy yes that oh my it's a very very nerdy title to this episode I know it is so let's really lean into it yeah let's so what we're gonna be talking about YouTube live going on mobile soon soon not yet but there is a feature they promised back in June but yeah they're finally getting around to bringing it out we will be talking about LG g 6 a little bit more information on that a little bit more of a tease and lastly check out this cool video that's what made using hololens an interpretation of video game portal on hololens sort of a a great example of augmented reality so yeah it looked pretty cool to live yeah totally so let's uh let's do it if you have any questions as usual in the comments section Brian will pick out the best and we will get to them in four minutes plus all right here we go start the recording in three two welcome to the 359 when we talk about the top tech news of the day and all the crap you want to throw in I'm Roger Cheng I'm Ben Fox Rubin so it's all about live video YouTube said today that would launch its live video service on mobile phones soon didn't give a specific date yet but it's a service that's available in step top we actually use it to broadcast a 359 live but going on mobile means it takes on Facebook live now you live streaming has been one of the hot trends over the last year or so but then what you think do you think YouTube has a shot at sort of being the next Facebook live Facebook life killer jeez I I mean like don't you think that it's like Facebook is the underdog in this situation it is definitely interesting to see and like by the way what about periscope like whatever happened to those guys or meerkat warmer yet meerkat died but periscope was actually like still a thing by like a legitimately sized company right but it is interesting to see how much video has become like this really important thing to all these major tech players really that's how they make money these days that's how they get a world ed bugs we're all the ad money that's where all the ad bucks are going so uh it's kind of this continued tit for tat that's how how YouTube is going to continue to keep up with facebook do you think Facebook's actually underdog here now granted YouTube is still the most popular site for video but in terms of live video and mobile live video this is fairly new for them yeah definitely I mean in that case it feels like why didn't they do it sooner yeah they kind of let Facebook jump in the game and really start to expand in mobile video a lot more and basically eaten your cat and periscopes lunch we'll see if you tube is then able to gobble up a lot of what facebook has been able to do so far what YouTube has its advantages if they've got sort of this huge stable of YouTube celebrities who and then they can capitalize on that you know one of the big features I think sets this apart from facebook is this feature called super chat allowing viewers to actually interact and directly talk to these youtubers for a price right so for a youtuber smart for youtubers this is this is huge because this is another revenue stream gets them in Courage's them to actually use this as opposed to Facebook live I thought this was a just thing too because it potentially cuts down on trolling I don't know what the price is but you're much less likely I would assume to go after somebody if you actually have to start paying yeah so think of that I was gonna make I've got to make my comment I really work at it right if I am gonna troll Ciotti I'm just gonna do it once because I gotta make rent this week all right next up LG's officially set its g6 press conference for februari 26 that's that's at the beginning of Mobile World Congress as we're expecting a pretty busy day turns a lot of phones it's it's gonna be a busy show but LG has potential to really steal the show with Samsung out of the out of the running there so I mean the big tease is that this phone is going to be almost all screen virtually bezel asst thats not pretty cool it's funny though because the the rumor has it the you know iphone will have a similar feature now you're starting to see budgets companies like Xiaomi now LG kind of come out ahead of the rumor kind of capitalized that tendency to the case right everybody like sees what the Apple rumor is going to be in September and they try to get out ahead of it in hopes that you know like hey we'll steal these customers before they get the new iphone right and we've already reported that again the g6 loses its replaceable battery but is water resistant so kind of going in line with what the rest of the industry is doing lastly please check out this clip that someone made using hollow lens and augmented reality to recreate the game portal and for those of you don't know what portal is basically you're able to create these little portals or wormholes or whatever warp zones to to move from place to place to escape this dangerous lab in this video you're able to actually take this virtual cube throw it around from one portal to another and the cube actually interacts with things in real life like for instance you've dropped the portal or you drop the cube down a flight of stairs it will actually recognize those real stairs and like roll down them so it's a great example of augmented reality that is really cool and definitely shows the potential of what you could do in AR so definitely looking forward to seeing more of these kind of things absolutely for more of these stories should because I don't see that Roger Tsien I'm Ben Fox Rubin thanks for listening that is super cool yeah as an avid portal gamer that looks really awesome I would definitely get into that I would actually be dangerous like I wouldn't end up talking to people I would just be playing poorly just create a little like portals from place to place right oh you want me to write a story is how that work a floral like on top of say like been right with a cube fall hit Ben's head I'm just curious how smart the system is a luxury when you said if interacts with stairs it just recognized as objects in the foreground right right it's just an obstacle by the way the companion cube would probably bounced off his head this is what's really which is all about this by the way he's better if it was actually real yes a recent college graduate is the one that actually created this his name is kenny wang and he's still looking around for a job apparently what hopefully seems like i need to be employed ASAP yeah but that's like I initially thought this was a concept that came from Microsoft this was from you know recent college grad which shows the potential for you know developing these kind of high knees once I start getting of elements in for three thousand dollars a pop I don't know that is a good question they're not they're not available for mass consumers it's really just a developer audition that they have right now to allow people like any to experiment with potential of that headset and yeah this is definitely one of the cooler examples that I've seen of hollow lens I mean I've seen a couple but this is I'm and I'm not a big fan of portal either you should be I don't gain that much though um let's jump back into the YouTube versus Facebook stream war yeah um before we discover both their mothers names as Martha oh nice Owen in the chair really it's out okay fine I get it get it I get it first off Owen calls out that YouTube's been saying soon for far too long yes and then read more it's too basic more importantly he says they're tote two totally different platforms people on YouTube actually watch videos facebook is where people spend 30 seconds to three minutes on video but rarely more and he's not wrong with that no that's true you gotta wonder if Facebook actually transformed the YouTube audience landscape because as you said it's it's a paid service so people will pay to troll for one it will listen they paid a chat even from experience it good chat and let's do I pay to watch the videos so fair it could it could evolve in two ways like it can work to allow individuals to stream video more easily from their phone as Facebook live has done or maybe it just changes the way sort of the the presentation of YouTube videos are done now like most of them are done in great and like studios and sets or polished videos like you to the YouTube celebrities right right uh taking a mobile means maybe this you'll see more interactive videos or just see more videos that are on the road but starring youtubers as opposed to the average Joe who's just streaming you know like the high school basketball game I think the commenter is right that Facebook has generally been used for shorter video clips however the company has really been pushing to get people to watch longer videos they even said that they're really going to try to impress upon longer videos in the news stream because once you're on Facebook getting people to watch videos and getting them to watch them longer is is a great way to get more engagement feed you more ads on Facebook make more money nightly i said this couple times my wife uses facebook but the newsfeed is basically like her remote control she just keeps swiping through videos she sees the video she like she'll just keep playing it yeah yeah it's kind of interesting that YouTube's really gone to both ends of the spectrum now with the YouTube red and now this YouTube mobile live or it's gone from premium extensive feature-length content to periscope clone right the haft and everything in between that's like that's the tech world you have to be everywhere and if you you are in like YouTube had been with mobile live streaming you're basically allowing Facebook to come in and start to build in that area and that's a that's a big problem like YouTube does not want to lose on video it's just interesting though in the world where periscope and vine are dead and now we get instagramming YouTube stories type situations yeah yeah and I like that maxtor and the chat is pointed out go Instagram I really love their new update with stories it's so original I think the first time I've ever recognized sarcasm in the cheerio Bravo I mean if that is true but if facebook wants to keep stealing snapchat playbook and you know none of that stuff is actually like patentable or anything now smart ideas or smart design if they want to keep doing that using Instagram then like go ahead I mean the killer app there is that Facebook and take all those ideas that snapchat pioneered and actually put it in a user interface that people understand right right like snapchat is intentionally confusing and they said that's a risk that's what makes it cool but if it's kind of a little you eternity on exactly when you're gonna be gotta be a ute but if you want to reach that billion users you could just you can facebook steal the idea and just repurpose it and make it a lot easier to use I mean so kind of Apple does that it'll probably do an arguably better job of delivering that kind of content since there are already more household names I mean when my mom and grandma know what YouTube and Facebook are ya and if you start giving this an opportunity like oh god I don't want to think about like my mom making vines vines this vine come back no no but then it's got this that I i think this mirrors a lot of that in execution I would think it's true you could see or do Facebook live video yeah I won't do that really know anybody who's me cooking a cake or baking a cake for my lovely son for my son Brian tagi right here who didn't want to watch me do this for him I want to give note to cochina in the chat YouTube's constant change of algorithm hurts if your company and I think that's very true there's been a lot of outcry from the YouTube celebrity platform yep the regular content contributors about how the algorithm is very very favorite favorite favorite prefect ism whatever it is a selective in who gets a better who benefits from that algorithm yeah yeah and not everybody can post every day and keep up like you have to do to stay relevant youtube and you think will will this kind of platform become more of a supplemental you see channels contributing maybe once or twice a week a full form video and then these little clips in between kind of thing to fill the gaps yeah I think that was part of my original point was I think you changing like you the concept of the subscription-based media yeah I think you'll see sort of a change in the presentation of a lot of these videos from more slickly produced pieces of content that's longer form to shorter clips done on the go done on the fly yeah I think I mean that that's only makes sense to me for the especially for these youtubers who are looking to build a connection with their viewers like it doesn't get more intimate than like shooting this random video on your phone like on the go wherever you are right yeah it's also to me fascinating to see how you create new forms of celebrity with each new format yeah and so this is obviously another opportunity to mint new YouTube stars just by creating this new mobile live streaming platform granted that hasn't really happened with periscope correct me if I'm wrong here but it did with mine but it did with vine so this is this if done correctly and if you don't end up suppressing some of the new voices this could actually help elevate some yeah some interesting new people on YouTube and before we let it go calling out to the chat again is anybody excited about the new g6 phone I am interested because I'm going to be in the market for a new phone and I hmm I hate the new iphone all right sell it to me me I don't know I'm not a Salesman hold it what was the big thing with the g5 was that the modular yeah the g5 was in one word like the the bottom half kind of was removable you could swap out different parts for it it was kind of a failure it was a total failure yeah I mean they've completely reversed course right Dave this phone for better worse if it kind of mimics a lot of the other flagship phones right LG for a long time was like we're the only ones with a replaceable battery that's gone now right they said well water resistance we don't really know people care about that that's in the new phone and it will be again frameless not frameless will be near frameless so it'll kind of follow the iphone rumor playbook mm-hmm do we have any info on like durability grading anything like that yeah because you think all glass front shatter mmm yeah that's a really good point although I mean if they're using gorilla glass lace gorilla glass it should be ok right been our Gorilla Glass expert yes and no if I pop it on a flat surface sure if you drop it on asphalt even if it's flat asphalt if you're much more likely dropped a brief phone on asphalt like it doesn't matter if it's full glass or not it's true still gonna crack right no it's just it's it's a useful tip to people that I guess you should panic a little bit more if you drop it on asphalt because asphalt is not completely flat it's got all those little edges to it and that's what cracks your phone if you dropped it on marble because marble is mostly okay you're more likely to be okay because not hitting can ever guarantee right but it spreads out the pain across the phone a little bit more so the pain you shouldn't trap you shouldn't drop your phone one more thing before we wrap it up for the day when do we know when is this the YouTube update going live we don't know we don't just said soon soon soon and its first gonna come to the YouTube you have youtuber killing thousands subscriber yeah exactly so you've gotta be like a youtuber basically to take advantage of this first got it so follow us that close and I start being lazier with the show yeah yeah yeah it's the 359 from my bedroom actually from my bed I just didn't bother to wake up today all right let's let's go all right if you liked anything you saw her here check us out on cnet our podcast is also available in itunes tune in stitcher SoundCloud feedburner and google play music see y'all tomorrow bye-bye you