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good morning or good afternoon my name is Steven Beecham and you are tuned in to the hottest podcast on the Internet the Apple byte extra crunchy podcast with your host mr. Brian Tom get your brain working your brain working what's up everybody welcome to the show Beach and Tong here in the house apple byte extra crunchy episode 95 the podcast for your listening pleasure all things Apple all things our thing again this is the show where you all are a part of it it's an interactive back and forth thing we livestream it we YouTube livestream it we periscope stream it but if you want to be a part of the show and be in the show remember you all you have to do is call us at 1-866-376-8255 firmware from last week continues to be a treasure trove of everything and I people that keep on messaging me and telling me that it was done on purpose the damn thing wasn't done on purpose yeah there is no way there's so much stuff not only are we talking about iPhone 8 now people have been digging it more we have stuff about the new Apple TV for you we also have stuff about the new Apple watch for you all of this rooted from the home pod firmware release of iOS 11 point 0.2 to that enable and they didn't scrub it of any of those references of some of the new stuff and all the new goodies so people continue to dig in developers everywhere and then reveal all this new stuff so I have a question about this yeah what's up so do you think Apple had a meeting after all these leaks my microphone is screwed up after all these leaks do you think they might have had a meeting and said maybe we need to codename the stuff for future firmware will codes and you know what I mean they've actually always code-named everything for example like the face ID is codenamed pearl and it's referenced as pearl ID in the developer in the developer notes so what what a lot of these guys they're digging in is they're looking for similar things they've seen from the previous iPhones they're going to those same strings finding new terminology then searching for that terminology to try and figure out what is it like no it has been now revealed like pearl is basically their face ID or face recognition platform we also have things like gizmo which is the code name that was kind of leaked out by the New York Times a long time ago that references the new Apple watch people start looking for those terms in the new firmware to see what it's related to and then it surfaces all this good stuff yeah but I remember this code was like pretty self-explanatory is like face detect oh yeah exactly type in the word face and see wherever it shows up as well so Perl ID related to face to text so let's jump into the newest stuff because people complain oh you've got all this stuff late it's called a weekly show it's called a weekly podcast I think that's why we do it weekly let's just jump into what is dropped today as of Friday some of the new information now is talking about everyone was worried about the delays of the iPhones are the new ones gonna come on time well they come out in September will they come out in October some outlets are even reporting maybe as late as November here's the latest piece that we have right now all three 2017 iPhone models according to digit times rx have entered volume production ahead of the expected September launch we don't know when Apple's going to do the official announcement we'll find out typically a week before they do that and typically it's been done in early September that doesn't mean they'll stick to early September when they talk about these phones have entered volume production mass production large quantities that are going to be able to be fulfilled all rumors are not only digit on digit times report this but minke quote from KGI securities also talked about how that new 7s and 7s plus kind of standard size phones that were used to right now will have more than enough quantity it's the oled iphone 8 / iphone x / i phone future that is the one that'll be in limited quantities much like the seven plus was with the portrait mode camera this past year so I think everyone that's worried about what it when are these coming they're still on track pretty much so don't worry like it seems like they're getting on the ball and they're gonna make sure that they're gonna be on time cuz the last few releases they can you hear that that's bad arable bad that's new that's a new problem everybody but yeah their last few releases have been behind so they they're making sure that they're gonna be on point alright so we'll see just how that shakes out also in addition to that news that just dropped today not only is Apple in volume production they've been placing orders for this 3d sensing laser component and so this company or the supplier they're called Lou mentum they've received over 200 million dollars in bookings for the rest of the 2017 calendar year related to components for what they call vertical cavity surface emitting lasers VCSEL for short but these are believed to be aimed specifically for Apple's 3d sensing camera to be used on the iPhone 8 let's just talk about in comparison in their last fiscal quarter how many how much money worth of orders do you think they got if they just got received a two hundred million dollars in bookings from Apple for the rest this year what do you think Beechum don't look at the source don't worry I have no idea what if I told you was five million Wow so five million to two hundred million a huge jump we know how this 3d sensor at least in many ways is going to play in the whole facial recognition system we're gonna talk about that more in a bit but this company Lou mentum they're pretty happy right now so it's a laser it uses a laser to tell like depth like a depth sensor using lasers LG's phone has had similar ones for taking photography where it uses basically a laser to pinpoint the depth of where you are to get a better focus focal point how does it appear adjust the line how does like Instagram and snapchat do it when they put those a I filters over here or those you know the augmented reality filters over your face that's just using the camera using the camera and features I mean they don't have exact depth information but they can they can still see you know it's really more like your facial features it's not it's not based on depth as much it is as what look at my face and being able to build a framework here's my eyes there's my nose here's my ears there's my lips yes sir those are like shockingly fast you know like you put a thing in it like pops right on yeah I imagine that that technology is super fast now instagrams were also really bad like they look my straight up my five-year-old nephew could do better ones than that it's like man that's horrible so what's the difference with this it's gonna blast a laser in her face will be laser laser be able to have a laser will enable focusing to be extremely fast it can pinpoint exactly the depth that you're at at that moment I see okay so it's like measuring the distance between yeah exactly exactly so that that's that's where you have these depth sensing cameras also when it's a 3d sensing camera that uses lasers that can pretty much build a general wireframe of your body of your shoulders of your face why is that important if we're talking about more specific augmented reality to be able to see this versus the surface of this table and they use that that's really important yeah so um we we already have a certain level of sensors in the phone but nothing this specific so this is gonna be a big a big deal when it comes to AR kit and other platforms that Apple is implementing into the iPhone so alright let's keep on rolling through kind of some of these other things maangchi quo we referenced him about how he said that mass production is on time also it appears according to him that the iPhone the 2017 lineup of iPhones will initially only come in three colors his report is that it'll be silver black and gold although there's been kind of this copper looking model or like a more bronze copper model that's been floating around he also says that the phones will not only be announced at the same time but they'll be launching at the same time and again it's that OLED iPhone 8 / iPhone X / iPhone future that is believed to be really the one that a you know could be a little slower slower to arrive just because of lower quantities so we have that all right talk about this boatload of recent leaks again from the home pod firmware this is stuff that you've kind of collected if you're on top of this you've heard about this stuff over the past you know really three or four five days or so but not everyone is so we want to kind of get you up to speed the biggest thing is facial recognition everyone keeps on saying oh why do I have to hold this up to my face it's not it's gonna take longer it may not be as accurate we're gonna find out exactly what it's like when Apple releases it but with the facial recognition according to what people have found in the source code it could mean that Apple themselves will be able to use facial recognition while your phone is laying flat on a table while your phone is indifferent maybe not your normal standard angles but instead of you having to lift it up and hold it up to your face in the developer code you're going to be able to at least unlock your phone while it's resting on a table that's what this alludes to if it's true Apple themselves is really touting mark gurmann right Rumour Apple News guru had also put a tweet out that Apple is really gonna try and position this as kind of like this face ID platform that's that's kind of the name that is starting to be used around a lot more commonly but it'll be faster it'll be quicker it'll be it'll take more data points from you not only just you know whether it's a combination of iris recognition 3d 3d detection of your face also in the early reports there were some level of being able to tell that you're actually a live living beam right whether it's like ticks or something you know subtle movements in how you are so you couldn't just hold up a photo and it would unlock and I think that's the number one thing everyone just says instantly like you're gonna be able to hold up a photo and lock it it's not the case it has to detect like blood flow or something even even with the Samsung's iris scanning you had to take a photo and then put on a contact lens over that photo and then hold that photo up to it and it didn't mean they would always work but it took it wasn't just like holding up a photo for it to unlock it wasn't that easy I mean there's ways to make it more difficult but it just wasn't that easy so the whole idea is if it is really as fast people internally according to mark remand say this face ID or facial recognition is going to be extremely fast we'll see if it if it's fast enough I don't think people will care yeah it kind of reminds me when you're saying different angles and stuff like that it kind of reminds me when you're first you know in putting a fingerprint into your phone then it makes you do like different edges of your finger and stuff so you can kind of get it all down really quick and then you can kind of just half-ass it and get into your phone easily it's kind of similar huh yeah just you know I mean there'll be some sort of level of initial calibration yeah but again the whole idea of if it look if I pick up my phone and by the time I get to like thirty degrees if it can already unlock that's fast enough right yeah it does if I have to go all the way to 90 that's gonna be a different story but if they does it like around 30 45 degrees you know where my arm is that compared to where I pick it up from that's gonna be fast enough and I don't think people are gonna really care as much but this is all speculation that we're talking about I know yeah it has to be really it has to be very fast you can't like I hope you don't have to like stare at it for a second then it comes on and then also like taking up we've talked about this before taking off sunglasses or whatever if you're wearing a hat or something weird who knows what we're gonna find you how we will I'd this is the thing right we've got about a month about a month and a half out before we really find out everything but because this look if there was not this leaked by Apple that everyone says when it was intentional but it's not we wouldn't have as much stuff to talk about but there's so many nuggets like in relationship to the facial recognition system new reports again found within the code are talking about how this will likely work with Apple pay so so there was a voicemail about how that would work and I'm curious how that I've been using Apple pay here too at the vending machine a lot and you know I'm curious how that's gonna work I just double tap and I hold it it's good so the thing is you may not even have to hold you know other than do some sort of gesture on the phone maybe you're gonna be good to go so yeah even even there might be a signal that sent from that point of sale unit that already activates the fact that that prompts Apple pay to show up your face is just there and then it just does it - yeah I've been doing like the double tap and then it asks for a thumbprint to authorize and then and then tap the the iPhone 7 is so fast I don't even have to you only have to redo the finger pain yes oh yeah you are seeing your prey you are slow I'm Way behind bro catch me up I'm trying to help you out man trying to help you out get on that iPhone eight gravy train I think also what I've noticed is as time has gone on even though there's a lot of leaks about this a lot of people are genuinely excited about the new iPhone coming out now it's like that first you're gonna have the naysayers like that say Oh Samsung did it yes Android did it yes but is the thing about it is if you haven't had a new feature on your phone and then you all of a sudden have it for the first time on your phone guess what it's going to feel new to you and guess what you're not gonna really care yeah like portrait mode people went crap like bonkers about portrait mode and we've seen phones that have been able to shoot relatively you know depth of field type stuff mm-hmm but guess what when it's new to your phone you're like oh yes who sells hundreds of millions of phones it's Apple Apple baby also another report says this one coming too from developer yellow herm Rambo who really is the first one to kind of break the news on the home pod firmware leak the iPhone 8 may mute notification sounds when the user is actually looking at the screen which alludes to the fact that this kind of facial recognition facial detection in a creepy way might be passively always happening so it's always looking huh that's always it's always look looky looky that's what people are most uncomfortable about you know like Lex is always listening it is series always listening or this is how it you know everything is always on now you got if you want to be plugged in if you want to be part of the future that sounds like a battery problem to me it cameras always watching it might be I mean we'll see what type we'll see how they handle all this stuff that's the other issue right a lot of new sensors new technology is the battery life gonna be the same it's probably the only way that they really are able to squeeze out a lot of battery life these days is when they optimize the operating system you know they're not putting a bigger battery in this thing in fact they're putting like kind of some sort of like an l-shaped battery RUP rumors yeah yeah into this phone so even even if it's an l-shape battery and you get like a little bit it's it's real more about the optimization of the OS because we're these phones are getting thinner they're not getting thicker so there's not as much space for these a battery so we'll see how that all shakes out and then also to kind of play on with this whole wireless charging aspect of the new iPhone pictures allegedly leaked from an employee from Foxconn our screen grabs of an iPhone in its eighth room rumoured iPhone 8 in its final verification test stage alright this is called engineering validation test the codename of this product in the top corner says Ferrari EVT Ferrari is referenced as the internal name codename for the iPhone 8 oh yeah so it looks like we're looking exactly at it and that there's a big black dot in the center and really what that big black dot is is the coil to for the wireless charging capability of the iPhone ok so it's this charging coil that then would that's the money spot where you have to like put it on some sort of a dock to then get you your wireless charging functionality I think it's cool they're like calling it the Ferrari that's like the Ferrari of internally yeah they should just call it the iPhone future they should just call it future so uh it's pretty good I think we should just take a little breather because I've heard that we should probably read something today 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well they're lost now right I mean that's that's all on them so what we have here in the code again for the firmware of the home pod there's been references which reveal the fact that the a new upcoming Apple TV will have most likely 4k HDR support nice there are strings in the code that said display mode Dolby and display mode HDR 10 that's really direct references to Dolby vision and HDR 10 those are the two formats for 4k video depending on your television set some support some support both I believe for example LG TVs and Vizio TVs support Dolby vision and HDR 10 some TVs only support HDR 10 because it's software based and Dolby vision is actually like a chip based kind of system and partnership and licensing agreement that you can go through but if I can recall right my brain could be wrong I swear that they kind of changed some of the terms with Dolby vision that it can that in the future it'll be done also a software based if I'm wrong you guys can correct me but that makes it easier to put on TVs when I hear Dolby I hear I think like 5.1 sound is that well yeah for that for 5.1 set so not only does it allow for a 5.1 sound allows for a dolby atmos sound as well so so here's the thing Dolby vision and dolby atmos are their own two proprietary formats that are then licensed to certain company so if you look on the back of some of the blu-rays you buy or if you buy the 4k blu-rays there's actually just standard blu-ray discs you will see a little logo that says dolby atmos on it and that's that and but then again look you have to have not only a dolby atmos disc you have a have to have a dolby atmos compatible receiver and then you have to have a Dolby Atmos system which is basically like a a five point one point two system that's a lot of i surround sound speakers a subwoofer and then to ceiling firing speakers so which i have so this it is what dolby atmos is is redonk at the home so then this this leak is kind of alluding to you can have four home pods in your house or five home pods well I don't think I know it's actually not related to having four or five home pods it's just more related to that the Apple TV as a device will support 4k video okay and the two 4k you know how there was like HD DVD and blu-ray for a long time there were two different formats but they both displayed 1080p blu-ray video are sorry 1080p video this is the same thing HDR 10 and Dolby vision are technically competing standards but they're starting to now be readily adopt adopted by all companies all right so there's some hardware that only like there's some TV sets like I believe samsung only supports HDR 10 but then future ones ideally would support Dolby vision and HDR 10 they all have their kind of like different optimizations it's I could get into it's like one of the format Wars that's happen but most people don't even see it it's invisible them so anyways the appletv expected to support some of this which would be a huge deal also later to touch on more appletv support Steven trout Smith another huge big time developer was able to crack into the TV OS simulator which kind of displays what is going on if you know people use it for their apps and whatnot of how they look and they can simulate this at home he was also able to find thanks to some of the code options for a resolution of 3840 by 2160 which is ding-ding-ding that is 4k video boom so look we don't know when this Apple TV is coming it could be coming I got a hope that it's coming by the end of the year Apple could have a huge holiday season if they just drop a bomb give us the new iPhones come around October give us a new Apple TV and Apple watch just drop it on us already it's all starting to work together and be merry it's the momentum has taken a long time to build but it's getting there it's getting there so that's kind of the latest that we have with Apple TV news again no word of any type of Apple service I man to by now they're just not there's not gonna do it there's so many different options there's there's five weds hulu has their own TV service YouTube has their own TV service sling TV has their own service PlayStation View has their own TV service those are the big for all the major those have their own everyone now has their own platform their own app sports so yeah just CBS let's not forget our favorite CBS I'm just gonna I'm gonna leave that right there all right let's talk about some Apple watch again new stuff revealed from the freakin firmware originally last kind of like earlier last week Bloomberg and our friend Mark gurmann dropped the bomb with a in depth report about the fact that Apple is planning to release a cellular capable LTE based Apple watch the series three Apple watch sometime this year the big thing about that really is that last year there were rumors that Apple was going to actually do an LTE based Apple watch but they didn't the the problem was really optimizing battery-life did they wanted to put an LTE chip in there and just kill your battery life they weren't able to tweak it or get it good enough so they opted not to do it we don't know how much better the battery optimization has been able to be improved I've got imagine to a certain degree also just watch OS in general but watch OS is like really light the main thing about this LTE Apple watch is the idea that it will be give us kind of that free independency from our phone the more I use the Apple watch and the phone well if my Apple watch is charged like see look again fashion statement not even charged but the more that we use the Apple watch on its own this is really more I think for people that are active runners on the go I think people are gonna freak out and feel naked without their without their phones for a while again we're gonna move in the future like a way way down the future we're gonna move to a point where we don't really have a the phone that we know is not gonna be the phone right but you know that for that first time you go out and you just have an Apple watch I think it's gonna be kind of cool but it's kind of freaked you out - yeah I'm gonna pear I think you gonna be scared I think you have anxiety this is first world problem stuff right here you used to that little weight in your pocket there's got to be some first world therapist out there that are gonna have to deal with these anxiety issues that y'all gonna get it's just it's just inevitable yeah so anyway some marker man just talked about in depth about the plan released the cellular capable watch it will be using an Intel based modem so that's a that's that's the rumor that it'll have an Intel based modem for that not a Qualcomm modem and that is also kind of interesting because if you've been following some of the news there's a lot of beef between Apple and Qualcomm specifically suing each other over different uses of or you know different patents blah blah blah they're going back and forth and they're not really friends right now they're beefing bottom line until an Apple aren't but then if you remember when the new iPhone 7 came out there were there were proof just positive proof that an Intel based modem for the iPhone 7 was not performing as well as the Qualcomm base modems oh really yeah in the phone like to get oh that's right Euler connectivity faster rates a better signal I know I have an intel-based one and I know the signal my phone is not nearly as good as it used to be for an iPhone 6s that's right I know this for ask kind of a controversy yeah and so and then also Qualcomm was complained that Apple is actually throttling down their modems so that the performance would be even or a revelant relatively around the same as the L Intel based modems I just forgot all about that that's all this like inside baseball stuff so guess what they're not happy but Apple is looking to use Intel based modems for the new Apple watch inside the latest code there are also references to an LTE based modem for the Apple watch so that's gonna happen but we don't know when it's got to come out by the end of this year though I would assume I would assume so we have guiding those so you can finally make calls from your Apple watch I mean that's that's an exciting and this is forward this is gonna give moral momentum for for earpods quite honestly because I don't want to talk to my wrist I know yeah I'm not that I'm sorry I'm not that guy who's gonna do that although people say my shirt might indicate otherwise it's very James Bondish that would be kind of cool now you're sure the talking yeah that was like wait like what are you doing with that pink camo shirt bro all right let's keep on rollin through the rest of this we also have just kind of a quick update note the fifth betas for iOS Mac O's and TV OS have been related and watching us basically for developers they put out the fourth public beta so if you guys want to get on that it's kind of play around and tweak with it that's fine um there's again it's the latest version of the software it's not final I still love the iPad beta but for some reason I can't connect to my the works corporate Wi-Fi anymore oh no and I think it's because of the beta but that's ok that's ok I'm really sad about that another story this has kind of been always going on but we don't we haven't had any concrete data according to the Financial Times Apple is working on surprise-surprise like they do with every product several different kinds of wearable augmented prototypes it's trying to find out the most compelling application for a a our augmented reality headset look they're gonna learn so much from a our kit and the iPhone in these next few years I think that's really gonna drive their direction of how they can use these glasses remember just remember that this year what was it I mean it's been shows ago but when everyone's like what could be the next big thing from Apple like what could be that product I think if it's going to be anything and it's not gonna be this year or next year or maybe two years it's it could be the pair of Apple glasses yeah that is the only thing that I think that they can get ahead of everyone like actual glasses not straight-up like crazy big chunky headsets and they're not trying to go for virtual reality we know they're not but if there's some if there is a product that maybe it could be there next thing could be I think that that would be thing it's not gonna be a car it's not gonna be like any it's not gonna be the Apple watch the Apple watch is good it's not great it's not like everyone's going crazy over the Apple watch well we saw people go crazy over the snapchat glasses they did go for a week yeah until they use them well that's I think that has a lot to do because they're marketing like really suck like they put like a you know like a vending machine out one place for a day this is terrible the snapchat glasses had a lot of buzz but then when you use them constantly like I used them for a little while just to see what it was all about and then you're like okay like it's alright it's a cool idea they kind of said it focus to one specific thing taking little video clips that you can rotate your phone 360 and again the tech world can get seduced by like the newest hottest thing but I've seen now these snapchat distribution boxes just like a big yellow rectangle in the Southern California area at a major mall on a Saturday or Sunday where no one's in line for it oh really yeah this also they're like around 150 170 bucks or something like that you know so this is not this is not something that everyone is really doing yet because it's also it's a very it was a very limited specific use case and that's good that's actually a smart thing to do then you don't see all these snapchatters using snapchat and guess what guess who is scooping on snapchat its Instagram Oh big time once Instagram took on that story thing people are on Instagram more than they're on snapchat snapchats stock is dropping like a tank because people just aren't using it they're not making enough money they talk about all these original shows on snapchat all this new content but guess what like people are just doing their stuff on Instagram now so the Apple AR glasses will probably have apps like any any other project they have right you just download an app yeah I got my Instagram app I got my snapchat I got my Baba I know I mean look my niece use the snapchat all the time with her friends but I'm just saying whether it's the millennial generation that I don't even know what you called the generation that's even younger than Millennials now that's where she's at they're using it but it doesn't mean it's a large enough segment or cross section of the population like Instagram she ended up jumping on Instagram because people are you know even the young folks when I say young folks I'm talking about like 12 13 year old yeah they're starting to jump over to a little bit so we'll see what we'll see I think the whole idea of Apple glasses is interesting we saw what happened to Google glass but that was like a beta product that they tried to release and announce as a publicly viable product which was completely just a huge disconnect so and I'm not gonna wear Apple Apple glasses aren't for me I don't wear glasses man yeah I know they're not for me but I mean I know some of y'all that wear like glasses without the lens hipster so they're gonna be the ones that are buying the Apple glasses that's that's what they do so what y'all do all right um two other quick little notes carpool karaoke finally on Apple TV finally a carpool karaoke there it won't have James Corden all the time but they're sometimes matching celebrities together like we got Alicia Keys and John Legend they did like Metallica and another singer um they'll have like so you know it just depends I'm sure they're gonna drop in court in here and they're just so people feel like oh it's actually the thing it's it's the series I know like Will Smith is doing stuff with them and stuff like that for Apple music subscribers you can now check it out on Apple music I'd like to know what you guys think I don't I don't still have an Apple music subscription service cuz that's just not my it's just not my bag baby yeah it looks very I don't know they weren't even in a car for a minute there they were in a carpool karaoke they're gonna be doing like other things so I might watch the Will Smith one I like Will Smith so that would require you to pay for Apple music justice II Will Smith's carpool karaoke you sure you're gonna do that I'm just wondering see ya and I'm also curious like did they make an agreement where they could actually put some of the stuff on TV because of or maybe like eventually they put it on on TV oh yeah I got everyone can watch this it's a really good segment yeah Gordon's gonna if it's Gordon and Will Smith why isn't that on the network why isn't that on network TV guys it's got a trickle out there eventually yeah and then because Disney and Apple and their relationship with Pixar and there's a lot of cross-pollination there between the groups I thought this was interesting to maybe what it might mean or point to for the Apple TV and what type of services we might see them on there the latest report from CNBC is that Disney is going to pool its movies from Netflix and will eventually start its own streaming services now you have to remember Netflix just got Disney content in 2016 oh wow they just did they cuz they signed an agreement so that Disney movies would be on there and then I was like I'm kind of like I thought it was crazy because Civil War yeah I know it's been like a year but when Civil when Martin went in America Civil War showed up on my Netflix I was like dang like that's kind of crazy movies like The Jungle Book showed up like I felt like six months after they were in the theaters when you saw that I was like whoa and there's a lot of people that don't see them look Disney is going to pull out from Netflix in two thousand 2018 so it's not gonna it's not like Disney is just pulling all their content out right now but what these announces that they are not only intending to pull this out of Netflix but they will launch their own Disney direct consumer streaming so in 2019 so it'll be like smart the home and you know why they did this right they were like oh crap look at the data look at how many they you know they have stream numbers of how many people are watching Disney stuff on that place oh hell yeah and they're like um yeah we're gonna pull out of this and just do like they seated the public a little bit - you're like oh well sprinkle some Disney shows out there see how it does oh yeah oh whoa it did really well let's make our own cuz they got they have they have their animation networks they have Disney XD not that I know they got Marvel Star Wars Marvel Star Wars Pixar Disney it's like the Fab Four yeah you know that's all you need just put there somewhere else have someone pay what seven eight bucks I'm on it's not cheap I hope it's seven eight bucks so there the thing is that they're gonna be splitting off but it'll be interesting to see you know will they most likely they'll have this service available on all devices not just the Apple TV but I find it interesting because you know it's just showing how these whole the world of streaming content from actual companies that are big enough there's completely fragmenting off and just saying you know we're gonna do it ourselves yeah it seems like everyone's doing that now and it's like you know divide and conquer I guess everyone was just dividing all their content up and putting it out in different ways well if you don't watch sports it's really easy to cut the cord yes yes and so what I what I also find interesting is that not only is Disney pulling out from Netflix they also said in 2000 in 2018 they're going to launch their own ESPN streaming service that will include sports games like MLB NHL and MLS content that's pretty cool so but the thing is like I need my MBA oh like if there's no MBA I don't even care about that come on come on whoa yeah I didn't hear any PGA Tour on that list no care though it doesn't the PGA Tour have their own app that they stream they stream all their events yeah it's like five dollars even the ones on CBS like the Masters PGA Tour but the Masters yeah gets CBS different different uh different providers get it like USA has like US Open and actually Fox's US Open USA has the PGA champ so yeah I guess divide it up but I'm curious to see how they would do that yeah all right oh my I think we're gonna get two calls that's it man yeah again everybody that's that loves to chicken and hang out with us the phone number to call is 1-866-376-8255 that stuff there you go thanks for taking my question and have a good day right I think the honest answer is we still don't exactly know but the expectation is that the iPhone eight will be using the new face detection and then the iPhone 7s and 7s plus we'll still have touch ID and we'll be obviously cheaper that'll be one of the distinguishing features that make them different from each other other than the screen other than potentially the camera and then as well as this quote-unquote we don't have an official name for yet face ID versus touch ID it just remains to be seen how not only how different it is but how well it works but all indications that the 7s and 7s plus we'll still use touch ID but no one has our I really clarify that but it look it has a they have a physical home button just like the seven so just think of everything your seven does and maybe a few improvements if it comes to processor things of that nature but there's not gonna be wireless charging on a7s maybe they'll surprise me but there's not gonna be so all those goodies are gonna bump up to the eight yeah the consensus in our YouTube chat seems to be the touch ID will be gone on the 7s and 7s plus on the new on oh yeah oh yeah pretty much yeah it's like all the stuff that was leaked there is I mean I'll shave my head if there's touch ID on the iPhone eight oh you heard it here shave his head you know what'd be cool is if you shaved your head and they were still like a streak under your on your skin on your scalp oh look turns match the carpet okay Mexico too much of remove on hey Brian hey Beach I love the show you guys have some great chemistry so I have two questions my first question and this is related to a possible Apple October event so we all know that September will probably be devoted to new iPhones so my question is do you think that an October event might be reserved for maybe an introduction of a new Apple TV or and I watch or what do you think it will be devoted to second question and this is related to the MacBook Pro so I have to admit I hate the touch bar and I was wondering do you think that Apple might release a 15-inch MacBook Pro without touch bar in the future and also do you think that the touch part might be phased out in future MacBook Pro models okay so my name is Miro I'm from in New York City and thank you very much fine okay that was like four questions that was it - so I'm gonna I'm gonna try and break this down based on my memory so yes we kind of talked about it there's there's got to be some sort of event how about this I hope there is for the Apple TV there will be no event for the iWatch because the eye watch is not a product that Apple produces it's called the Apple watch I'm sure we we will talk for life on a show like this for 45 minutes and guess what you're gonna sometimes slip and say wrong things I think the last week I said field of depth when describing the kit the portrait mode instead of depth of field yeah I got I got crapped on I got crapped on that's where Twitter's for exactly I mean Twitter's always right no one makes a mistake other than the people that get yelled at on Twitter so Apple without a doubt we're gonna see it this year unless October he's asking is in October yeah sure why not but if they if they're coming full if 2017 is this badass year that they talk about they should just drop it all they're the only reason why I would see an an Apple watch getting moved to next year was just purely because of battery optimization issues hmm that's but I don't think delaying it for a few months is really gonna make that much of a difference yeah if they're using the same size battery I don't think it'll make that much of difference um the other question about the 15 inch book MacBook Pro with a touch bar without a touch bar I wanted them to give us that often from the start but the reason why I don't ever see them doing that yet unless the touch bar is so get such horrible feedback that they completely killed is that based on if you look at the price points of the MacBook Pro family it's very deliberate that the 13 has a no touch bar option then a touch bar option and then if you go large you go 15 it's going to have a touch bar it's it's more that's strategic to pricing they don't want to get they don't want you to buy something like $100 $200 in between the 13 inch touch bar and a 15 inch touch bar they just want you to spend more money and get the 15 inch touch bar so that's just pure from a business strategy economics reason is why I don't expect to see it do I want a 15 inch with no touch bar absolutely yeah I know how damn annoying it is to change the volume or the brightness on your computer I haven't even tried it sounds annoying just you even like bringing that up like you can't just tap it you got to touch it and scroll it I mean yeah you can you can custom make like a default touch bar but it's like and then there's no haptic feedback on it so it just feels weird to touch it it just feels weird so we get we got another voicemail that we didn't use today and he was talking about how much he hated the touch bar so you're not alone bTW someone in the periscopes all asking that is there any expectation for a new iPad pro anytime soon come on they just released iPad throws I'm sorry right now as of today the iPad pro is my favorite Apple device of the year with iOS 11 hands down cool I feel like I could talk about it for ages but I'm not going to there's like two of you use it okay all right next call let's call a beach and telling mrs. Bryant New Orleans with all the leaks coming out about the the face detect instead of using such Ivy it's intriguing it's neat and I know we don't know exactly how it's gonna work yet but one thing that I'm a little nervous I guess I'll use that term about is um not necessarily just unlocking the phone but authenticating for payments so I just think it'll be pretty awkward if you're holding your phone up to a vending machine or something like that have to make sure you're holding the phone up or the near frequency alert and then also kind of positioning your face it's just really easy and elegant just to you know hold your thumb up against the touch ID sensor and complete the purchase so obviously we're waiting for Apple to show us and tell us how that will work but if there's no touch ID at all I wonder if that will affect the Apple pay usage in any way love to hear which thanks thanks I think without a doubt look someone who uses a Apple pay on a regular basis with an iPhone 7 that's faster than a Beecham's iPhone 6 6s do one more tap yes for someone who uses it it is super convenient cuz you just like hold it right on the spot but again if this space unlock is and this face ID platform is as fast as Apple internally thinks it is and is bragging about and can actually detect your face at all different at different angles then that remains to be seen again you know until we actually use it we just don't know so I can't comment but if it's faster well then even putting your finger in any kind of position yeah then that's faster if it's like a double tap to open not even a double tap what if I just pick it up in because it's within proximity of a POS system that pings it and it can see the my face from its angle you know that's I mean that's like okay we'll see we'll see I'm like making up the idea that it's really gonna work like that come on someone was asking should I buy in in the chat should I buy an Apple watch right now or wait um you should wait yeah wait to get the one you can make a call on man that's what I'm talking about I'm curious what the LTE cost would be per month probably probably standard like Oh 15 20 bucks for one gig 65 for a week yeah 65 for unlimited data you know they're gonna do that come on but on a watch it may not go as fast yeah wanna watch it may not go as fast it's gonna be basically a cell phone plan for your watch yeah and then if you already have I think the key that they're gonna try and work on is adding it to your current plan without making you pay like a full 65 80 bucks maybe you pay 40 bucks it's like this is what they're gonna do they're gonna charge you like not the same amount as a brand new device you'll pay a little more but then with that amount more that you pay it's not like you're gonna get a ton more data it'll be like oh yeah this will work with your current plan and we'll give you like an extra Giga data just wear your watch yeah yeah you know yeah I guess I don't know like that we already we already can tell that's gonna be a whole thing that we're gonna have to break down one day and it's gonna take a lot of thinking okay next call yo Brian we've seen you and your girl chillin on vacation going to Philly and going all these places and I have a large group of people that just need to know they can't sleep if you took all the pictures with your iPad pro tool point 9 inch we have to know inside know for the wind I think the new iPhone is going to be called either the iPhone Pro or iPhone edition are you have a good one man homie didn't leave his name no yeah but that was that was funny stuff for the record I have yet straight-up yet to take a picture with the iPad pro in public oh wow do you do it at your house though like around your home I've used to make movies make videos cool but you won't go out grownups that was that was a horrible joke no no I I've taken pictures with like my nieces and nephews for fun but not like yup use it as a damn camera in public we all know how I feel about that yeah that's and we all know how I feel about that big no-no and I like to take pictures of people who are taking pictures with their iPad it's it's just the worst it's the worst that's fine and they make the cameras better better for them every time it encourages these lame-o's all right that's it man that's it that's all we got okay so yeah I mean we're pretty much back in effect we've been on a vacation for a while so we're getting a we're getting our rhythm back with us but sometimes you know we'd rather do a show in the studio together because it just it's just a better back and forth vibe totally then Skype is always a little distant yeah just no matter what you can't like I can't peer into your eyes and read read what you're thinking I always look at you in this monitor over here so we don't really make eye contact a whole lot all right so that's gonna do it everybody again if you'd like to be a part of the show call us at