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make this happen call in to our line leave a voicemail the number is always this theme of iPhone 8 there's a couple new recent little nugget stories and we're gonna dig a lot deeper into this whole talk about we'll touch ID really go away with the iPhone eight but let's quickly just hit two of the latest topics that are buzzing right now in the iPhone 8 rumor world the first one comes to our leaking Twitter buddy Benjamin guest skin who has really been the king of every physical / video / render leak that we have seen with the iPhone 8 so he just dropped kind of to jump and piggyback on an earlier report by Keiji eyes Ming Chi quo talking about how the next iPhone 8 right the high-end bad boy 5.8 inch OLED screen phone will come in potentially four colors one of the color options according to Gaskin is a mirrored option so think of like the iPod Touch back in the day that mirrored metal and if you scroll down a little bit you can actually see his actual tweet he showed off an iPhone case from from a previous model but just to really illustrate the idea of from what he's heard a mirrored silver mirror are basically a mirrored option will be one of those potential colorways for the iPhone 8 we will see that's the one I'm gonna get man I want the mirror option I want me or that man oh yeah I'm a mirror that also of the other quick blurb about the iPhone 8 is we know wireless charging has been a rumored feature for a long time what is now being reported out of Jerry fireballs John Gruber who has his own podcast as well as really tight connections within apple of kind of the latest and greatest going on in there he says that he's heard the inductive charging will a be sold separately so it'll be a separate charger hey I'm really I'm just delivering the news okay bro don't kill the messenger and B might be late waiting for iOS 11.1 that's crazy think about this as if you remember with his example as portrait mode with the iPhone 7 came out like a fifth a few months later after they revealed the the actual feature you software update he believes that it might be similar where they'll make this power adapter or inductive charging adapter right a plate where you could drop your phone on available later which that's alright I just make it just have it come out when it launches I mean there's also rumors that the actual iPhone 8 might be pushed back in development meaning we'll see it sometime maybe in October November not September Wow so here's the thing that I'm seen is is this gonna be another air pod situation yeah that's it's already feels right going that direction you know if this is a report and Gruber is reliable let's again daring fireballs John Gruber is reliable so I'm gonna take it for what it is I heard the air pods are still on a six-week backorder I ordered a pair for my lady love you Shawna shoutout but it took still still took six weeks to get them Wow and so this is after I guess what now we're talking about they announced them they were coming out in December they were supposed to come out and fall so we're maybe almost about a few three months over about nine months deep and there's still at a six-week backorder and we're almost to the next iPhone and you still have that's what I'm talking about crazy man but the wireless charging seems like it's something that is a huge deal for Apple and feature to brag about - yeah it needs to be released with the iPhone thank you leave as like is like part of the whole package not something that's separate even you know exactly so again these are the two latest stories coming out that just dropped on this Monday about the iPhone but really the big the big meaty news and the stuff that's worth talking about to me this kind of released at the end of last week because we couldn't have a show but let's talk about the potential of Apple completely getting rid of the touch ID physical button whether it's still on the front or some renders have showed that it's placed on the rear according to Bloomberg and Ming Chi quo they both have in reports that are saying that Apple has already been testing 3d face scanning to unlock the next iPhone now it's not a we have iris scanning with the Galaxy s8 we've seen 3d or how about this just a face scanning and general use used as a biometric yes so according this Bloomberg report from mark Berman and friends they have been testing an improved security system that allows users to login authenticate payments and launch secure apps by scanning their face this is according to people inside Apple it's powered by a new 3d sensor and is also added that the technology is still in development they're also testing eye scanning to potentially augment the system meaning that it could use a combination of 3d face scanning and iris scanning combined wait so the new like you know we've all gotten used to this using your fingerprint which either which I'll I purchased some which I like now we're gonna have to learn a new behavior right so you want to purchase an app you're gonna be like oh I'm gonna purchase the app push purchase and then stare at your phone well here is the hope is right they bet it'd better be faster than that according to the report also the phone using apple's system that they are testing the phone can be unlocked within a few hundred milliseconds and allegedly works even when the device is lying on a table which means but your to your point if again these this is true to your point if you got to hold it up like this you'd already be able to pretty much face scan you before you hold up like this yeah so you could just like put your face over the table it's gotta stare at my phone real quick yeah yeah that's yeah i could see the potential of that that could be pretty cool the other detail about is that people might not think about is that it's said to capture more data points on your face versus a fingerprint scan which is just a fingerprint but again you basically have to the way that touch ID works right now you can't just chop someone's finger off and use touch ID yeah you have to actually asked you have it it has to have a blood blood flow like it senses that this is a living object although although i wonder if you can if you did take a layer of someone's finger and then put it on yours if detect that fingerprint but still be able to tell because of just your your fingers through it through this thin layer of skin that it is still a finger that actually we haven't tested that yet that's a very song Silence of the Lambs way of thinking but silent I wonder if your eyes have to be open for the facial scanner because if it's using both iris scanning and face scanning probably possibly yeah because I could see you know people can unlock other people's phones while they're asleep or something so I think this is really interesting because all these renders and rumors about the iPhone 8 have been oh there's a rear touch ID and everyone's freaking out like I hate the rear touch ID I don't want it on the back i from the start whether it's true or not never really complained about it because using a google pick so i think it's in the perfect spot using the earlier LG phones that first had it it's in the it's in a sweet spot you don't you don't you're not looking for a per se i wasn't a fan of samsung putting it next to the camera lens because it does get it smudgy right i'm not a fan of that i'm a fan of it kind of in that middle lower area but now it's kind of funny because guess what now you see comments of people complaining about face scanning instead of touch ID right it's like guess that this is the whole thing about this we don't actually know 100% sure what exactly it's going to be but if it's a lot faster I don't think you're gonna care that there's no touch ID button there yeah I think well well I don't get over that pretty quickly actually you know if it works if it works good yeah and if it works in the dark right yeah that's a good question is it gonna work in the dark I'm gonna do that you're like in a nightclub yo what's gonna happen it better it better not work with your eyes are closed because if your ladies like want to check your phone at night and you're like sleeping she like takes your phone and holds it up to your feet like you no one wants that hell no don't don't look at mine I have nothing yeah we got another night but that is kind of weird I mean who knows eggplant eggplant eggplant scores course so we know that emoji string you guys you guys have used it before don't lie we know that there are bad people out there and they're constantly trying to figure out ways to infiltrate stuff so you know who knows who knows where that's gonna go so we don't know again here's the anything also we don't know exactly what's gonna be implemented if they're still in testing they may completely scrap this it could determine what physical design Apple ends up going with because we've heard and from all indications there are obviously a variety of different designs about what the iPhone 8 is I think everyone ideally wants it to have you know perfect clean glass no buttons no sensors anywhere yeah and if that's what you get and the facial scanning with iris scanning works then I think you'll feel happy about it again these are technologies that have existed on other phones I'm not gonna pretend like they're not but we'll see how the total package comes together yeah and here's where it gets interesting though okay so we have all this information about what may or may not happen literally like a day after this report dropped about them working on it a new patent filing was brought into the light that Apple has been working and improving on their own 3d facial recognition system that would be available to work for the iPhone as well as Macs including this thing they call present presence technology and I thought this was interesting because the way it's described and kind of diagrammed out is that they're Apple's recognition system isn't just a face recognition system it also looks for skin tone as well as movement so holding a still picture reportedly won't be able to trigger this off oh I see right it has to be you it basically has to somehow within those milliseconds prove that you're kind of like a living object of a person with a face man they think of everything seriously like I would not think of that if I was a designer or an engineer I'd be like wait we have to stop people from using a photograph yeah and crazy may be face skin may be the skin tone has to do with it remembers it so it identifies someone with a maybe a more specific skin tone I don't know how that factors in on-the-fly this is just a patent filing that Apple has but it's their own kind of version of advanced facial recognition that would work not only for their iPhones but for future Mac's as well and that kind of added on this layer of okay this is actually starting to come together from mole angles rumors actual reports and patent filings it's great because it's pretty good sign that they're journalism bye-bye all and this was published on July 6th so just like three days or four days ago yeah they're like oh we better get this in the can right away it came fly so you know it finally came to light so I thought that was pretty interesting uh just to kind of bounce around just temporarily in another patent filing this is not related specifically to the iPhone 8 or whatnot but Apple is released or revealed based on the US Patent and Trademark Office published they publish an Apple patent application relating to potentially the company's upcoming home pod speaker now this is really more specific to an invention that covers this how the home pod produces sound based on its surroundings it's described as a method of equalizing and optimizing loudspeaker output through the use of microphones digital signal processing and advanced computational algorithms so really what this comes down to is Apple's own microphone system that is internal like internal and external microphones that basically are sensing the location of your home pod which Apple kind of alluded to they didn't break down the technology when they revealed the home pod they just said that it has a system with microphones that's able to optimize this but right when you put a speaker Li you know this when you put a speaker in the corner of a room yeah right that sound bout it just feels down everywhere right it bounces everywhere you put it kind of in the center of a room your your it at least your normal standard speaker it's not gonna produce that same level sound that feels like it really fills out the room yeah and different types of sound do different things like low-end they call it low-end because it fills the floor of the room well I like subwoofer based stuff yeah exactly and like high-end it's like you hear it up higher I mean like literally like I'm talking like height you know what I'm saying so that's very interesting like it's almost like they're gonna program it to be always be optimal wherever you're walking in a room or something you know so like oh he's over in that corner so let's direct all the sound in that corner like that's that's that's pretty interesting but that's that's pretty amazing you know it's also interesting if you didn't realize that I raised my seat so I could get a better eyeline with you just you're talking yeah most of the time I look at you and the monitor over here so when you're looking at me you're talking to me but I'm looking over here talking to me so it's a disconnect but it's funny yeah I would we're in the same room sometimes you can be in the same room with someone but feel so far away so that's a patent filing another patent from Apple just describing the whole pot I'm still really you know what I'm not obviously I'm one who's not sold on the home pod but again I will buy and try everything I'm just curious how it's going to be how the general consumer audience is really going to respond to this product I'm gonna buy it but you can never again we always say this and again you can never underestimate the power of the Apple brand and the ecosystem is the marketing team is just I mean you could make a giant marshmallow that plays music and someone's gonna buy it like there's their market the hell out of that a giant marshmallow with an Apple logo on it they should have called it the i'm i'll i mellow I'm mellow and put it on a stand that looks like a barbecue steak if you want to have it like for your stereo sound all right just some other quick things iOS 11 beta the third beta for iOS 11 and MacOS hi Sierra hi Sierra their third betas have been released for both of those at least if you know if you're a developer it from what I gather at least right now I unless I didn't check recently I don't think it's available on the public beta right now the public beta typically tends to tray a little bit from the developer builds that come out but we just don't want to let you know that it is continually continuously evolving but the betas are out so if you're someone who took the risk of putting it on your products that's fine I do feel for some you know I get sometimes a few tweets or messages from people saying oh I don't like this it's kind of buggy it's yeah there's it's it's a beta for a reason to get rid of the bugs and uh from what I recall so a gentleman had hit me up about putting the bay on the on his Apple watch it's like oh it's draining away more power on both the phone and the watch obviously it's not optimized but from what I gather I don't know if you can personally specifically for the Apple watch I don't know if you can revert your Apple watch to an older Iowa older iOS after you've put it through a developer beta if something tells me you can't specifically with the Apple watch I'm not talking about the iPhone the iPod I mean iPhone iPad I could be wrong but yeah I was like um I think you know you might be Sol right now if you want to go back yeah I've never seen like a how-to or like you know cuz even when you're at your Apple watch gets trashed or messed up the only people that Apple basically based on their warranty they they say like oh you have to bring in the store and like we have access to the diagnostic part to do XY and Z but you don't at home on the Apple watch down baby basically so we'll see we'll see how that all plays out the other thing is also what's cool is the Apple TV public beta oh yeah you can get in on that they that's not something that they've typically made available to the public but if you want to check out there just go to do you really do general search you run the risk of your Apple TV getting janked I mean to a screwed no matter what if you're playing with beta software you're always gonna risk something like that yeah so it may not work perfectly sometimes it might crash more often than it's supposed to that that's the type of stuff that happens maybe certain apps aren't compatible but overall you can you can kind of check it out if you want to go and get the public beta you do have to sign up through Apple's website just search like Apple public beta program and it'll guide you through all that stuff the other thing here if we're talking about video content right Apple TV play around with this I thought this articles really interesting it was originally published by The Wall Street Journal Amazon and camp Comcast's have been able to take a bite out of Apple's digital movie business so if you look back at iTunes the store write really one of those apps at the forefront of pushing digital media content and consumption way ahead of time before people are even comfortable about it right if you want to call say what is a disrupter iTunes was one of those things oh yeah big-time but if you look like if you look at a decade later Amazon and Comcast as well as others right we have a lot of people that have shifted to streaming behaviors but it's also cut into Apple's market share so according to this report the Apple now claims 20% or somewhere around twenty to thirty five percent of digital movie rentals and sales but if you look back in 2012 they were at 50% oh wow I mean I used to I used to rent movies from Apple all the time and like TV shows and stuff it was easy to do but now it's kind of lost a little bit you know well they have so much going on - yeah now they say taking a bite out of Apple share is Amazon which does also rentals and sell selling of movies and they have their own content right there Amazon Prime service but Amazon claims now about 20% of the market share according The Wall Street Journal Comcast's accounts for about 15% of the market I got to say like Amazon Prime video was always kind of like a redheaded stepchild but and then just in the last few years it's like really like growing up a lot and it's a lot easier to use and there's a lot more content and that's those are the this article is about the two main things I use Amazon and Comcast is Comcast streaming services kick-ass - you know like you get all your TV shows oh yeah whatever and they have a lot of movies on demand like when they make deals with movie companies but um this is this this article does not surprise me at all here's the other thing when I see this story and I wonder what's going on here look I think that Amazon has been able to get people to purchase more shows directly when we talk about why is Apple has lost you know this market share first of all people are now streaming on more devices that's gonna be one aspect of it but Amazon has original content and shows that people actually watch yeah like transparent is one of them and so when you're creating original content like Netflix like others that are people are actually watching people are more likely to use that product just in general and then because they're using that product and they want to make a purchase they just happen to be already on their fire TV or whatever it is because they're watching these other shows that are part of their service and then they buy them and that's why I've still been frustrated of hey Apple if you're gonna get into this exclusive content you're really gonna put it behind the Apple music paywall way that makes sense it doesn't make sense and these shows that they're putting out right now aren't compelling enough to even convince anyone to really say okay I'm gonna put down ten dollars a month for the Apple music service because I saw this show that I have to have I know Apple is building this this is not gonna happen overnight quite honestly for them to get enough content that is compelling look how long it took Netflix to do but that was something that Netflix was doing from the start right it probably I felt like I took Netflix maybe at least maybe two or three years after they started getting popular to start actually putting out real original content shows that people started to then go to as a destination spot yeah I feel like even longer like yeah I've been five or six years maybe the DVD sharing yeah that's true that's true like that's that's a long time to build a business yeah so maybe like ten years yeah it took a while so so also they have to get the right producers and the right directors and the right content you know yeah Netflix isn't afraid to go through $20,000,000 exactly how many guy and a comedian or you know some producer to go make something and then completely be out of their way yeah I mean just give them money go do what you're gonna do we're not gonna say apples like almost doing the opposite you know we're gonna make a show about apps on Apple and you know and other things like that and I beats music stuff you know it's it's very niche to their audience oh yeah I almost like commercials for there and that's what I remember when Eddy Cue talked about the content they're like we're only gonna work on the stuff that strategically makes sense for Apple yeah it's like how about making good shows that people even care about a funny comment and the periscope was DC Fox said carpool karaoke greater than transparent dot dot dot said no one it's transparent won an Emmy I karaoke win an Emmy it's it's the thing also I mean if we talk about content so I'll go on a little tangent here and everyone can relate so Netflix right Netflix is starting just have so much content like I was for the first time I was kind of hanging around it was a hot weekend I'm like I'm just gonna stay inside and just chill and you have a choice to watch like a really super in-depth potentially depressing documentary or a light show so avoiding the heavy documentaries lately but I feel I feel like I don't know if how everyone else feels about this you guys can even callin about this if you want but I feel Netflix is now opening the floodgates with content some of these documentaries that I've been watching and yes you could say documentaries by nature may not necessarily be a two sided story but I felt like this one I call saw what the health was so skewed on one side of like this is everything you can't eat tell me they didn't tell me I got an hour through it and they still didn't tell me what I could they just told me I can't eat chicken red meat lunch meats eggs and fish I'm like yeah how am I gonna keep this tight if I can't that's a problem with some documentaries too is like you know it's like really the producers point of view that's what I'm saying right and people have made that claim on many documentaries some of the best documentaries you've ever seen suffer Michael from Michael Moore right people have been complaining about that as well yeah so but when you start having like all these documents you feel like where's the other side of the story is it just cuz Netflix is now such a big machine they're like we would want content just pump it Pump It Up pump it out so I don't know it's awesome so we just had a Netflix conversation in the Apple Apple buy show yeah people are calling this the Netflix cat cast in the chat room now you know we did have some do you want to take like a couple follow-up questions from yeah yeah I love that yes please do I love it when you jump in with this stuff we did have one about the let me see if I can scroll back sorry just interrupt me sometimes they can write them out again yeah I'm trying to find there was a good one about the you know what I'm not being able to find it right now but there was a good one about give me the gist about the facial-recognition unlocking your phone yeah and they're wondering like what if you get a suntan that was the funny way yeah I don't know just it'll be up to Apple III again I don't know if the skin tone is a true indicator that is prevents you from getting in or not I don't know this right again it's just one of the aspects of their facial recognition system we don't know exactly how it's gonna be implemented yeah and then we give you a white pasty skin you think your dead body and it doesn't work I don't know a cold dead body I don't know and then like totally just jumping around people were making a lot of calm comments about the home pod and like we're talking about how expensive it was and some people are saying like if it's under $300 maybe like 350 s too high it's under $300 maybe I think when you look competitively with what is out there knowing that Apple puts a premium on it I think there are those borderline people that are still curious are willing to give it a spin at like a sub 300 price like 249 doesn't seem like something Apple do you find $2.99 but we'll see III they're gonna stick to this 349 price we'll see how we'll again I'm really interested in I don't see how it's gonna play out long I think it's gonna I think they'll force it through and make it stick around but I just don't know how many people can actually buy it yeah yeah sometimes Apple like gives in pretty quickly yeah and one one more thing I just wanted to mention that guy said that was useful was restoring your Apple watch yeah Kenny I know there's a tool called IBUs that lets you connect your watch to iTunes and restore it directly that's from Mota not a-- m but it's not an apple it's not an apple I know it's not an Apple song I don't think of someone else helped put it together okay yeah that's good that's good check that out that's just the three things I saw in the chat room that I felt worth mentioning sounds like a BuzzFeed video three things three things I saw in this video worth mentioning yeah all right you know what let's just jump into the phone calls and just see what's shakin bacon we have a couple this week but again to be a part of the show the number is 1-866-376-8255 even Ohio and I had a question for Brian I I'm thinking about buying an Apple MacBook Air 11 I don't like newer models and don't buy the port let me know it's a good idea not ok have a nice day bye I this is a tricky one because its heart we get a lot honestly we get a lot of calls about people asking like what should I buy based on this and we don't want it the good thing is that we didn't have the many calls because we didn't do a show last week yeah but it's hard for me to always just throw out a complete recommendation not knowing exactly what you want to do with it but if you're not impressed with the touch bar stuff quite honestly and you're just looking for phone that can surf the web and do email and word processing so like you know basically school - you know work type stuff and you want to be portable I'm down with either and based on your budget if you're talking about the MacBook Air I'm down with that even if you want to move a little slimmer and you have the extra change to drop on it the MacBook is finally to me powered enough where I'm like hey you know what it's a more than capable machine the super slim MacBook but when we're talking about the MacBook Air 11 it's that is one of my favorite form factors that Apple put out of a laptop Oh check this out there's a few for sale one on YouTube Apple certified refurbished oh this is great on 11 inches 11.6 inch MacBook Air for 929 that still seems very expensive to me it is for a 2004 pretty old which one it doesn't say the year on it 2015 that's exactly what she's looking at that's what she's looking at huh so the since you just brought this up in my mind yeah obviously go to Apple's store and go look for refurbished the reason why if you're looking for an older machine when you purchase it it is still covered by the same exact warranty which would be a year standard warranty that comes on the machine it's all covered by that so it's not like you're buying a machine that's not covered in it the way that they do their reverbs it's it's like having a brand new machine so you're covered by the same as I can warranty is a brand new one and it's cheaper I think that's the way to go quite honestly if you haven't thought about that already that's definitely the way to go do that definite well you're in that if you're not I thought she said 2010 that's that's going back a little too far I think like I don't even know if then latest software would work doing works you can try you can try but it won't it just want to hang so this is the deal right here 929 baby 929 you out of your mind oh yeah you're mine 50% off not really alright beats I think that's gonna wrap it up for this week next week we're gonna have a sit-down interview you with one of my good friends Joe Chaplin skeet yeah we're gonna talk about apps the app store the current state of Apple with how they're treating its developers and also just like I gotta talk to him about the iOS 11 App Store layout I'm just like yeah nah bro no one has any questions please call and dial this number and leave us a message to ask him questions I'm sure he can answer a lot of great question but again we'll take all your calls on everything as 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