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good morning and good afternoon my name is Steven Beach and producer of the Apple byte extra crunchy podcast with your host mr. Brian Tom what's up everybody welcome to the show hey it's episode 118 Apple byte extra crunchy we're here in the studio live together like in the same place maybe that's what I would do it again this is the show that's kind of our complementary piece to the actual Apple byte podcast the video show that's weekly we have news stories that keep on happening because in the Apple world everything drops constantly to be a part of the show we had tons of calls from you all and we continue to do that the number to call us is at 1 800 662 1 861 6 268 leave your name where you're from and then just get into your comments I think this week because we scold people and said okay no more 2-minute calls you guys tightened it it up for us which we appreciate so I think we're gonna have a lot more we're actually gonna be able to get through more calls today yeah that's great yeah we get a lot more calls because they're shorter so so that benefits everyone here but I appreciated everything alright let's jump in the show we know the big story this week the big headline story this week the home pod is finally out it was released to multiple outlets and youtubers for review see net has their own but because we're subtle but it's like bait what I call the Big Red Machine they gave us a home pod unit to our smart home crew they're based out of Kentucky and so they actually have our review obviously you can check out scene that's owned or others I will be personally getting mine tomorrow and then we'll be all that's gonna be goofing around with it you know a lot of times we need I like to spend extensive time with it so you'll get my review I kind of have like a little more laid back casual style about it and I want to really deliver what it does great and we know everyone is raving about the sound which is kind of what we expected the sound is the focus for Apple but beyond that you know everything we kind of know about a 3:49 price tag series not that smart and I will dive into exactly how smart it is or isn't but I can tell you right now I think the biggest thing that people are frustrated about and again this doesn't surprise but this is kind of par for the course when you talk about how Apple does things shirt supports all of Apple's services and Apple music recently there was an announcement how Apple music subscribers actual pain subscribers headed something around 30 million subscribers in the US they don't say actually they say their pain but I wonder how much of that is at least the initial trial but that's a huge number and really when you look at this device it is made for someone who is strictly in the Apple ecosystem and I'm talking about someone who uses Apple music someone who uses iCloud matching and someone who has the iTunes sorry the iTunes Match service and then purchased songs that they own from iTunes it's for you there is no headphone audio 3.5 millimeter headphone jack on it there's also this is the biggest Bugaboo for me we're all conditioned to connect to any type of Bluetooth speaker we want to this home pot has Bluetooth 5.0 but it does not support any phones to stream music over Bluetooth it only supports iPhones running iOS 11 very serious so that what that means is you have an an on iPhone you can't connect to the home pod if you have an iPhone that doesn't have iOS 11 you can't use it with the home pod and also no one has really dug deep into what happens if you have Apple music but you're on an Android phone my assumption is you'll put in your credentials but you really have to talk directly to the home pod you won't be able to stream or control your Apple music collection from your Android phone hmm so I mean that's my assumption based on how Apple is doing this no one's really dug into that also you know just things subtle things how the Siri on the home pod I believe it or not is more limited than Syria on your phone so you're not even getting the same Siri meaning you can't do the same things I it's kind of crazy but Apple is targeting a specific market for this and until we actually you know until I get my hands on it we'll really see but overall everyone says the sound is on point but if you want to pay $350 for speaker and it better sound the best in its class for that price but beyond that it's really for the die-hard Apple loyalists and you know there will be software updates the other thing to mention we have talked about this airplay too is not ready yet so there you will not be able to buy to home pods right now and use them in stereo sound which is one of the features they promised that when they announced it and also it there is no multi room support so you can't put two home pods in two different rooms and locations and play the same music from it right now it's just the home pod so it is coming out Friday to mention also about pre-orders for the longest time app you could get these were readily available but right now at least in the UK they're delayed out until February the 13th which is three four days I think Australia has a one-week wait time that's really more on inventory but just this morning or really maybe last night availability in the u.s. changed from February 9th which is launch day to February 13th so there are more people that are jumping on it but it is the first Apple product that I can remember that took two weeks for it to even fulfill its pre-order and then get the date pushed back I mean that's never happened so I'm expect to hear what it sounds like man I mean yeah I mean excelling pointed better sounds will you'll get one here in the SF office tomorrow sweet so and the funny thing is we it's not like we can play songs that you know on it because of music licensing rates that's right we'll play generic songs that you don't know but but you know I it's an interesting thing I I think it's just one of those products that really people in general there are people that are excited about I think the loyal Apple fans the loyal diehard ones but it is the most eco system locked product you could ever think of quite honestly that Apple has that Apple's easy you can even use air pods on Android phones that's cool you can't use a home pod as a music speaker over Bluetooth that's a big deal to me that's been like most of the reviews I've been reading is like it's great but it's trapped in an app Apple super trapped so you kind of it's the trap pod it's the trap pod so anyways check that out um you know we'd love to hear people by the time our next show comes up for the Apple byte extra crunchy Colin if you bought a home pod let us know what your thoughts are you know give us your kind of quick 1 minute 1 minute and a half mini review what you like and what you don't like we'd just love to hear from you to kind of contribute to just the overall feeling of what people are thinking about the home pod so there you go all right also a lot of iPhone use dropped this week as well Apple released their second betas for Mac OS I Sierra they released their second beta for iOS 11 which is really important and the second beta for TV OS but what we found that was the most interesting thing as part of this is that the iOS beta it's the second beta is the first time it introduced this actual new battery health feature from Apple and so what does this battery health feature do basically it does a variety of things it tells you the pretty much the condition or the capacity of your battery has that changed over time because we know with the 6 6s and the 7 those are the those are the phones through iOS 11 that were affected where they were throttled down if the battery wasn't great and then we have this whole thing now where people getting their batteries replaced I don't know if we really have to get into how ugly it is but it's we've talked about it like for the past for show so I'm not gonna get into it as much but this new battery health feature will tell you how your battery is doing it'll also offer you the option to turn off the throttling feature but this is in the beta 2 so if you're part of the developer program you can check it out right now I don't honestly off the top of my head I don't know if they released it for the public beta just yet but this is out there and it's worth checking out I think it's really cool that at least they've done and answered every question we have the other nugget that I found out that came out really interesting from this is Apple then officially announced on their support page about the iPhone 8 the iPhone 8 plus and the iPhone 10 are gonna be less impacted by this performance management tool and why they say they say the actual physical hardware and software design of those three phones specifically should see less issues in regards to this whole okay if your battery performance is low then we're gonna throttle your phone down and I think a lot of that has to do with there's a lot of coprocessors and just really more raw power in the actual new iphone 8 and the iphone m10 with the new processors inside of it and that's really what's kind of aiding those phones I know everyone's worried like well I have to worry about this long-term we'll wait and find out but at least right now they are saying that the 8 the 8 plus and the 10 won't be nearly as affected by these battery performance really performance management issues I almost felt like ice performance issues yeah yeah this is really this is really like the iPhone 6 is that it affects six 6s & 7 I mean 7 is having other issues beyond that - really yeah even you just actual functionality issues as well the other thing that I did want to mention is a quick story I kind of missed and skipped over because there's a lot to talk about is that recode recently reported as well that Apple right now they're not doing anything about it but they are mulling over the idea or whether or not to offer rebates to customers who previously purchased full price iPhone battery replacements because if you had a phone that was out of warranty before Apple basically made this reveal of what they were doing people still went in and wanted to get their batteries or play some paid $79 instead of the change $29 price that they're now offering yeah so Apple has directly said yes we are exploring this and we will update you accordingly so we'll find out there's a lot of users you you've got to win some good faith back I know there's hundreds of millions of Apple fans out there but do the right thing they have they're sitting on I think the number now is 280 billion dollars of cash and they can kick down 40 bucks you the right thing and just just get it all great just this article coming out that they're mulling it over tells me that they're gonna do it they're just trying to figure out how to do it and they wouldn't even address it if they weren't pretty much going to do yeah exactly right they would just ignore it so maybe like oh what problem what issue I don't have no I have nothing no idea what you're talking about I mean another kind of new issue popping up that uh we are keeping an eye on and this has been growing in the Apple forums is a been reported by the Financial Times that says a growing number of iPhone 10 users are unable to accept calls and Apple is actually looking into this investigating it what's happening is the screen which doesn't have right touch ID button or physical button to prompt it sometimes people are getting calls where the screen stays off and then they don't even get to see on screen visually the accept or decline button and so I'm one that hasn't happened to me yet but it's a it's something worth mentioning just because this is a growing thing in the support forums I think it's around like a 15 or 20 page talk now but even people that are having this issue they've tried to restore their phones redo the software and they're still getting the same issue so just when I thrown out any bad apples right now just something that's a serious bad Apple though if if true if true you get a thousand dollar phone you can't answer the phone call yeah that that could be a problem that could be a problem we also want to let you know that today's show is unsullied by any sponsorship or influence but that will change the next three or four weeks so basically just to let you know no one is paying us to sit here right now other than seeing it yes thank you Cena thanking us to sit here we're just messing around all right on to the other stories here just kind of some follow up with Apple products across the board after their earnings report we know about the Apple watch Apple still yet to reveal official sales numbers they don't like to do that so what we do is we lean on projections and ideas from other data analytics that really follow the market and the movement of actual units so according to research firm Canales they estimate that shipments for the Apple watch topped an all-time high of 18 million units last year in 2017 now that's an over 50 percent increase compared to the roughly 12 million units that were shipped in 2016 they say that of this breakdown 48% of them were Apple watch Series 3 while 52 percent of them were series 2 or older models of the series 3 purchases around 13% of those customers off opted in for the LTE model which I did and which is really the best version to do if there's the lifestyles yeah yeah really I mean this the series 3 watch with LTE and watch OS 4 transformed it completely I've said it over and over and over it's a legitimate product and I'm look there's no surprise great hardware great software put them together even if it takes you three years to do it and then finally the market is responding again Apple won't reveal their numbers they bundle this in with like the Apple TV with accessories like the air pods and their beat sales and even their home pods they'll be bundled together so like it's been three years it's not like Apple is doing gangbusters like if they hit if they hit a benchmark of like 50 million Apple watch watches sold we would have probably heard about it even 20 million but we still have it because they brat they brag about it so much when they hit those benchmarks so good news coming out from the Apple watch the another really cool story staying in the same place comes to us from this new study from company called cardiogram and what they've basically found is that according to the study this is really their first a large-scale study that demonstrates you know how an ordinary heart rate sensor something that we could find in the Apple watch in others even like the Fitbit but it can actually really detect early signs of diabetes and they did this by can you know they have this whole study that they put out they have people opt into it but this is kind of crazy that we've talked about although it may not be the sexiest thing Apple using the Apple watch to get into health and fitness but really the medical field and so they've from their studies they it suggests that the Apple watch heart rate sensor itself can detect early signs of diabetes the pancreas is connected to the heart through the nervous system and according to their report the heart rate variability changes when a person begins experiencing diabetes like cysts symptoms that's awesome really cool we also know that Apple has their own official apple heart study that's a partnership with Stanford and so you can actually opt into that right now I I kept on getting notifications like opt in opt in so I'm like forget it I don't want to see this anymore I'm just gonna opt in but they're trying to basically detect abnormal heart conditions arrhythmia and to see how they can connect that in really warn people ahead of time that I think there was a story about a gentleman who his heart rate kind of peaked and he didn't know what was going on and he went to the hospital and they basically I don't know if it was a stroke or not but they they caught his medical condition before it actually hit him that's huge man so the strike exactly the stuff is already happening yeah I know not the sexy sexy but uh no that's sexy actually you know you want to know if your heart it hasn't you do if your heart is like beating it regularly or too fast you want to know that well I'm just telling you just don't eat McDonald's every day I think I mean I love a Big Mac and a fish filet and I'll kill a 20-piece Chicken McNugget in one sitting I don't know how you and I got the two cheeseburger deal I was in a hurry I had to eat but it was good wasn't it wonderful well you know it sucks because I could still do it but there was a time where whenever I go to McDonald's I literally would kill two Big Macs to the Big Macs Big Macs and a fries with sour sauce I put the sweet and sour sauce in there I don't think I could do that that's invasive man that's but I had to stop because I'm like this is probably not good for me yeah how do you feel like an hour after you eat McDonald's you feel weird you definitely feel different like something's wrong it's called good it's called satisfied something in the bottom of my stomach all right um just some news stories also we're kind of throwing this under the bundle of maybe March announcements coming out historically Apple has put out new product releases in March last year it was like the iPhone I think it was at iPhone 7 read addition we also saw new iPad pro the nine point seven inch and then um I think we saw it we saw a new Mac we saw a new MacBook as well and if I recall right I believe they bumped up the capacity of the iPhone se as well those were kind of some of their announcements in that March time period you guys can fact check me if you want to but I believe those were kind of like some of the core products that came out what we know right now people been asking what's going on with Apple's air power they're maxi-pad oh yeah we got a call about that too so they're I'm gonna say they said 2018 we still have yet to see a new air pods with the actual charging case hmm right there they showed off that there will be an actual air pods that comes out with a rechargeable case that you can drop on this air power pad the Apple watch and iPhone will support it so I don't know if they got their ish together they delayed the home pod so maybe that might have delayed the air power but I'm gonna let's put March on the calendar let's just call it right now let's say March right March March it is could be totally wrong also iPhone se two tons of rumors about that maybe we'll see something like that in March I think the thing about the iPhone se - there's still such a we get we get questions about it all the time I know it's like it's a pop what's going on with the iPhone se and that money for an inch form factor that people still love people still want that we I'm gonna assume that we see it sometime this year but I think the big thing is that this se - because of just how how its advanced if you look at the current iPhone se it feels like I mean it's basically like the iPhone 5 design so there's no way in time much was a good which is good there's just no way in my mind that it would ever look the same like the iPhone se - would at least be a modernized looking thing I'm gonna throw it out there by the time and this has come out touch IDs you know force touch might be in that screen but I think they just need to release a refreshed iPhone se - it's been a popular phone it surprised Apple how well it's sold it surprised them how well it did yeah definitely so there's no reason not to do this even though I think the last time they showed their product line it was like again it was like a row of like six or seven different phones I do miss that screen size I mean but we go back with you go back I would I mean I know it feels small I knew like I'd take some getting used to it be like this looks really small but yeah you know after a while I think I would just be fine with it again cuz I had it for a couple years before didn't have any problems with it it was legit five years ago all right I'm just messing around over the years see I think people sometimes have a complex when you make jokes about the tech piece that they have and they take it personally it's like it's not personal no but everyone always gotta be personal when it comes to saying a bad thing about a product that they spent money for I don't know why I'm still trying to wrap my brain around that because they're they're worried that they made the wrong decision me but that's fine but then why take it as a personal attack I know like if I say something bad about the home pod they're like you're so negative I'm like I'm actually just telling you the truth did I ever say I hate it did I ever say it's crappy no I just said it's not up to par with what's out there industry wise and yeah it'll probably sound the best and according to all reports it does sound the best yeah it doesn't match up in terms of its brains but in terms of its sound it's it's superior but I still think my thx sound that's what I'm saying about my thx system at my home probable brighter yes humble brag I also think my Dolby Atmos sounds works around system probably sounds better probably humble brag with a 12 inch subwoofer Wow yeah I think I got like a yeah I think mine's like honestly I don't even get to use it to its full capacity I'm in an apartment people complain when I dump that too hard I'm in a townhouse I don't care I'll just bump it I hear my neighbors sometimes their bump in their movie yeah yeah alright I have a lot of bumpin next door oh right whoa iPad news let's go oh yeah do you believe this do you think true or false the iPad was the top-selling tablet last year what do you think I believe that are you looking at the headline or not no I'm not actually but there's another question do you believe that the iPad sold more units than Samsung and Amazon combined or sold less that's a tough one I think maybe they sold more you are correct Stephen item because those other there's other ones like you see those Samsung tablets and the other tablets they just look like toys they look like things are gonna be in the garbage and you know and then in the near future I don't know they just don't look great you know I'm not I'm not feeling it so check this out research firm IDC released their results based on data that is again an estimate now here's the thing we know actual ipad units sold physically sold by Apple which totaled forty three point eight million units in 2017 and forty eight forty three point eight million now again IDC is estimating Samsung and Amazon the key thing about this is these are units that Samsung and Amazon shipped shipping means going to retail doesn't necessarily mean 100% sell through Samsung shipped twenty four point nine million tablets last year and amazon shipped sixteen point seven million tablets last year if you combine those totals that's forty one point six million which is two point two million lower than iPad sales so while the industry continues to shrink Apple's iPads pretty much stayed flat which is a good thing because the overall market decline six point five percent and again you know one of my favorite toys iPad pro I had Pro and the iPads they last forever to like my aren't using like your iPad like my three is still rockin dude like got no issues that's what I'm talking about it's legit another story that just came out this week a rig in regards to the new iPad pro that will again most likely see sometime this year we know that everyone has kind of already talked about how it's most likely gonna have some level of face ID and minimum bezels Apple three and Apple engineers applied for a new patent that was just surfaced that could indicate how the Apple pencil will evolve we don't know if this is gonna come this year it could be down the road it could be never but this new patent showcases and features an Apple pencil or a stylus basically that can be used outside the confines of an actual iPad so it can be used on a laptop screen or on a desktop screen which okay fine whatever wheel I know the microwave touchscreen MacBooks I'm just saying the patent indicates it could be used though oh wait are they changing their tune over there at Apple with an apple with a stylus though with a stylus I don't not not I mean a pencil not a stylus Oh a pencil now here's the other thing that makes this cool according to the patent application there's going to be motion and orientation sensors in this stylus even something along the lines of a camera who knows not like a camera to take pictures per se but we kind of jokingly like to call them for sensors which would allow also this Apple pencil to be used completely on a different surface like a table or on paper so it could be gamified they're gonna try to gamify this thing yeah I just could be like a like a almost like a gaming remote like a controller you know or we like a Wii Remote or sumter or or this could just be the first steps to be like yeah there is gonna be an actual iPhone note no this is gonna revolutionize pictionary I'm excited it's the best pencil you've ever used the world's smartest pencil the world anyways that is a pan and we don't it doesn't mean it's actually happening but there's always kind of some cool fun Nuggets just to see like what Apple is doing with tech when you talk about that stuff all right um that's kind of the meat potatoes of the stories let's we got the calls positional love again remember the number is I still got music playing that's fine I'm like I'm feeling a guy's been from Indiana love the show I got a question for you seems like ever since iOS 11 my phone is not done well with geofencing and Bluetooth connection with my smart home for example I have key those smart locks I'm supposed to be able to tap the lock in is supposed to unlock or lock the door geofencing for arming security cameras for turning my lights on and off with if this than that just various things with my smart home it just seems like that there isn't good recognition of the location services to make those things happen just wondered if you guys have noticing any of that as a problem with iOS 11 it seemed like with iOS 10 it was perfect it worked great so wonder what you thought thanks a lot appreciate it I mean I think what I experienced I haven't experienced what you have but the biggest thing is when iOS 11 came the table all of a sudden my Bluetooth stopped working the same way with my home theater where you know I just pump Bluetooth audio into it and also even connecting to not my car but my girlfriend's car like for whatever reason it stopped and so I had to repair that connection in the car fine but it didn't it still doesn't work the same way it does before it's it's not as consistent I had to actually update the software on my receiver home receiver audio receiver in order for it to see the Bluetooth again which I thought that was weird I'm like what it's just blue too so I once iOS 11 hit some of those devices that I work with and that I connect with they had problems and some of them aren't acting the same so I got imagine other people are having similar issues as well because it's not just isolated to me in uber oh I wouldn't know because I'm still on ten hey oh okay smart guy let's smarts guy my wife updated and then she started reporting all these problems I was just like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do this don't do it oh okay here we go let's go next call hey guys here's one from Orlando Florida just wanted to give a call guys and so you guys are doing I just wanted to say Brian businesses for Brian I love how I love how you when the air pods came out you said oh my god they're so hard to get and now the whole pod comes out and you're like complaining that you can get it right now so just make up your mind you know you complain for having it now and completely I'm not having it I'll just mission around I'm very excited for the home part actually I have Lex at home but every time I get visitors I always play with her all the time and kind of always me sometimes that you can respond to anybody commands but Siri on the home part like I carry my phone to see the only responses to my command so when I say hey Siri she will respond I would everybody says hey Siri she only responds that to me and I like that feature a lot so hopefully the home pod or will still have that though she will only respond to my voice not to anybody else voice but uh just about thank you so much guys I love the show keep up the good work I get a sense that he's very possessive of his technology yeah he wants a very obediently he only talks to me she only talks to me no one else just me just me don't talk to them only me now we know that Siri cannot support multiple users so the thing about the home pod is that she is actually made to respond to multiple people so I don't know if that same voice coding like you said right we know it if I say the magic words to my phone technically based on how I trained it it shouldn't set off someone else's phone but with the home pod it's actually supposed to be able to respond the multiple people just not be able to identify multiple people from each other but uh you know if you don't have any friends then Siri will only talk to you anyways it's true true true that but uh also I wasn't complaining about the availability of the products I'm just making a point yeah home pods not sold out after two weeks now they finally are four days out but that tells you something about the demand for a product the home pod was not sold out after it was also delayed for a long time brand that air pods were delayed also but they were sold out for literally almost a year they were sold I'm not a year not a year let me take that back they came out in late December and up to like July August they were still had a for four to six weeks shipping time on Apple's website and that's right because the iPhone 10 came out and their air pots are not available when the iPhone 10 came out that is correct yeah see that's what he's talking about you would complain about that too bro yes okay next call here we go God once more like hey guys this is Paul I was calling about the Apple home pod and I was wondering why they didn't put it on some type of space that's almost like a wireless charger and you can actually take it outdoors with you if you want to go barbecue outside in the backyard or something just wondering why they didn't think of that love your product I love your show and watching it right now thanks for everything guys you guys have a great one bye-bye I'll tell you why they didn't do that home pod to it's like come on home pot - no that's a great idea I didn't know you couldn't unplug it and take it places yeah it's it's it's you know they got rid of the headphone jack but they still got the power jack cuz I thought in that Diplo video he was like carrying it around and moving it around oh that was that was the Google that's a Google one oh but also but also Google the Google Max's tethered down just like rotating and stuff some of the some of the mobile ones that let's see you don't uh the boat the boat Bose has a speaker that actually sounds really good that's kind of like a mini looks like a mini lantern that's completely uh not Wireless but you can take it around you wherever you want to go someone in the chatroom is saying the home pod is sold out now what's a way yes correct for teh wait in the US it is a four day way we yeah we mentioned that earlier in the show but they are correct there's a four day wait in the US but until yesterday it was still readily available and it was on pre-order for two you had two weeks to preorder it cool and then we'd also don't know how many units they actually produced of that yeah I mean whether they did ten million five million I doubt they did millions I think I think I I could see them do like 5 million exam they could make whatever they want they're sitting on 280 plus billion dollars of cash they could literally do anything they want that's an ocean of cash okay here we go my name is keno and I want to know has Apple lost it what's wrong with their products now how come they're so expensive why are they so buggy that's my question thanks I don't know I I don't we're not gonna date look if you listen to our show every week you kind of I think we've made it pretty clear it's not the same company and all those questions that you had have been answered multiple times we just liked how your call sounded yeah it sounded great it's like did why are they so buggy I think it was this inner monologue just coming out and like this nice rhythm yeah you put a nice like space in between each question like why and it was at keno or keno because you know you know my name is no no you know that's a Vegas I believe Beno was the name of Ernie knows at keno or key knew not Keanu I think it was keno was the name of Ernie Ray's Junior's character and teenagers been to Ninja Turtles too you know I'll keep you Rufio no Rufio is dante basco sometimes people think that I'm Rufio but I'm not I'm gonna lick this up while we listen the next call I'm gonna confirm Ernie Ray's unit was key knew in teenage girls do secret of the news we got a teenage me a ninja turtle reference and a hook reference next call this one's real short hi my name is max I'm from Texas I was just wondering if we'd be able to use dual home pods as a stereo speaker set for Apple TV viewing so that's the idea right they wanted to be stereo but we just don't know about Apple T it'll come it'll come down to airplay to quite honestly something tells me that you can but I honestly I don't know this for a hundred percent sure I can't even remember I can't remember if that was part of it there there is no actual you know we don't have to worry about physical connections because all the air all the audio is being streamed through their airplay to protocol and airplay so I'm gonna say yeah but we'll find out it would mean if it's look they're so dedicated to that ecosystem that it would be silly for them not to now whether it's available it's not going to be available now per se but uh I'm gonna say yeah because they've been they kept it so locked in I don't know if someone's even looking at the that's the spec sheet right now or knows off the top of their head but I can't remember that one specifically for sure or not okay all right we will find out if I'll fine I'll try and find out too okay keep next up here we go hey Apple bike nation this is pre Samuel so I'm just calling in regards to the air power and Airport just wanted to check when the any rules or any anticipated date when the air power is gonna come because Apple just mentioned it's gonna come sometime in 2018 and then in regards to the airport they mentioned something like optional wireless charging case and then there's also talked about an airport second-generation two are both these things referring to the same thing so I just wanted to know your thoughts and things like that and have a discussion about it thank you bye okay Beach I was reading up I am DB to confirm what I thought was correct so was he asking about her plan their pod - yeah the charging case the wireless charging case like when is it high in the air pod 2.0 yeah okay so we did talk about that early in the show that March is our guess but we honestly really don't know can i really just quickly on a tangent since it's towards the end the show during I call section please this is how good my frickin brain is Ernie Ray's jr. was Kino not kinu keno just like our caller and if you didn't know Ernie Ray jr. was also inside the Donatello suit but he wanted more face time so when she needs me Ninja Turtles - yes - have a roll oh he's like the kids that like trying to join there go and there's a point where um who gets kidnapped one of them gets kidnapped than here so like run to them to get their ten he's like Raph dude it's me Kito like he's trying to get there I can't this is this is way too much information that no one cares about except maybe me yeah and he was like stalking the turtles while they're like he fighting crime and then he would like jump in and help them they're like what are you doing yeah dude he also has a martial arts like studio called I think yeah I'm gonna stop now he's probably cause like I'm something of a bromance bromance crush on him this is really has tons of turtle memorabilia at his uh at his karate school this is awkward uh yes I just wanted to confirm here the home pod can be connected to Apple TV using airplay nice just wanna let y'all know it won't do stereo yet but it can connect your Apple TV but eventually we'll get the stereo yeah so all you rich college kids you get a home pod for your speaker system congratulations thanks seriously seriously brah the best congratulations I've heard in a while okay here we go next last call this is the last one in addition song it's dated from Maryland again I just want to leave another another thought that I had or I wanted to get your thoughts on this I've read some articles that Apple was maybe thinking I mean rumors that they might be thinking about purchasing a Netflix or something like a Tesla to just you know get Apple into a better space in that area I personally would love if they bought a Netflix just because I feel like they could do a lot with the content that they already have and they just haven't done a lot with Apple TV I was always expecting Apple TV to be servus you know an all-in-one service the papal coffer where I could use for may be streaming instead of cable I mean also original content so let me know what your thoughts are on that thanks guys love the show right yeah you know we haven't touched upon this for a while but we've pretty much made it clear historically through this show I think it was back in 2015 2014 to 2015 when Apple was working rumblings were that they were working on a TV streaming service to get out there to the masses but what Apple did is because there can you know they're brash and they're cocky they wanted to set the terms while doing this the studios were like no what are the ones that control the content will tell you how much you know we'll charge for this content apples like no give us the best deal where Apple while this is happening all the TV networks and studios and media conglomerates decided to hey these are these are our terms to other companies so what did you see sling TV PS view AT&T DirecTV now all these other services now we have Hulu TV YouTube TV all these other companies were able to lock down deals for their own TV streaming service and Apple couldn't do it and it's it would it's a pure revenue stream source Apple wanted to be hey we dictate the terms they guess what it worked back when the music industry was collapsing and trying to figure out ways to make money you know arguably Apple helped usher in the generation of music being digital for better or for worse for the records for better for worse for the record but Apple has no TV streaming service they have no revenue from that there's always been talks about Apple then looking to buy Netflix I would love for them to buy Netflix keep it the same integrate it into their system and then just throw in additional content that Apple offers but they Apple can afford it but they aren't doing it I think if there's anything we'd see it would be that but we wouldn't see Apple do anything with Tesla yes Tesla actually just announced like I think last night that they lost like 600 million dollars last year or something so that wouldn't be a good buy for Apple even if I turn it around even if I wanted to you have to remember just it's not always even about the dollars with these deals it's about philosophies Elon Musk is our generations Steve Jobs oh yeah he wants everything open and why woody lawn my let Apple by his company at least today unless he's extremely extremely desperate and needs the cash for his vision to succeed he has his hands in so many amazing projects he doesn't need Apple again right now maybe we look back at this two three four or five years from now rewinding you hear me saying this that's why I have to preface it right now but Elon Musk is his own dude he's not gonna be a guy where Apple purchases him and then boughs down to what Apple asks him to do now that he's he said publicly that the person that takes over the company after he's gone they have to have the same philosophy everything needs to be open source people need to be able to have access to all is it and that's why he gives away all those information for free like the what is it the the thing that goes underground I figure what it's called it's not led yet what is it called I know not the hyper tuned the hyper the Hyperloop Hyperloop he put that all out he put all his plans out there in public like free for everyone to use and go build it you know an Apple does not do stuff like that ever another funny thing that you say about Elon Musk oh he says oh um you know you've got to have the same mind the same passion yet there's only one Elon Musk so he's odd no one's filling that spot anytime soon dude so inflamed for the throwers right now for 500 bucks apiece yeah sold out I mean look Steve Jobs successor to Apple was Tim Cook Elon Musk he's not gonna hire a Tim Cook for him nowhere he's not he's not he's not well that's all she wrote man we are done okay everybody thanks so much for hanging again you know we keep it under an hour for you guys so I'm sorry if your commute is longer than an hour I'm not gonna we're not gonna go longer than an hour we try not to no we try to keep it tight for y'all thanks so much for watching again to call us to be a part of the show