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good morning or good afternoon everyone my name is Steven Beach a producer of the Apple byte extra crunchy podcast with your host mr. Brian Tom what's up everybody welcome to the show you know how we do it it's Beach and tong Apple byte extra crunchy extra Munchie our complimentary piece to our video podcast that comes out weekly this is where we dive into it new stories always surfaced so we kind of keep you up-to-date and we can really expand about you know about these topics this is episode 107 the show again is always about you guys and gals so all you have to do to be a part of this it just call us leave a voicemail 1-866 two six three eight that is how you leave us your name where you're from and your comments your opinions your questions we will dive into them we got a whole bunch and honestly I think that because we're really at least the time that we're recording this we're about 12 hours away from actual pre-order night it's gonna get a little crazy so it's gonna get cray-cray so that you know the way that we wanted to draw people in is talk about some of the best ways to pre-order the iPhone 10 and then we have tons of stories like legitimate stories so I think just so I so I you know deliver on the promise that we tiled the show look I know a lot of you are like how what is the best way to pre-order and there's a few strategies but I shouldn't be saying because you're just gonna make it harder for me but I don't care because these phones are gonna be already hard enough to get I've got nothing but love for Apple byte nation the first thing you need to do when you want a pre-order sure you can have a web browser on the website open but the place that typically switches over first to get access to the pre-orders and people like don't tell them be don't tell them be is the actual app the actual Apple Store app on your iPhone on your iPad you want to have those open because that's typically the switch that flips over first to get access to the pre-order someone the periscopes like only losers preorder through their web browser but here's the other thing not only should you do that Apple site and apples apples are going to get hammered you can and people call to ask about this you will still be able to do we order the iPhone through the actual carrier websites now in the past I have found out of all the iPhones that I have pre-ordered on pre-order night only one time did the carrier website actually outperform Apple's app or Apple's website itself but I did get through one so you whether it's t-mobile AT&T Verizon though you can go to their sites directly that's another great way to do it but also if you own multiple devices you gotta load up every device get all your account log into your accounts don't frickin pull up the site and wait to log into your account before you do it you're just gonna lose you're gonna lose and this this actual phone is gonna be hard to get now Beach I'm gonna jump one story just because we'll get back to actually the news but we talked about launch day in our rundown an Apple did have an official statement saying that the iPhone 10 will be available for walk-in customers at stores both Apple stores and carrier stores on launch day we don't know we don't know how many though but yeah then you will be able to PR man they want those lines out in front of their stores I'm a curious look San Francisco's Union Square store is one of the big flagship beautiful stores I don't know how many they'll actually have I can't imagine that they're gonna have a thousand units to sell I just I don't I'm really curious what's gonna happen maybe maybe they allocate most of their inventory to the physical stores we'll find out how this all shakes out my hunch is that even if I get in the system I'm gonna guess maybe maybe I'm gonna i'ma pray to the Apple gods not that I believe in the Apple gods but uh I think that I uh something tells me in my gut that I'm gonna get through on the online system but I won't get the phone on launch day it'll be like launch week you know what I'm saying like all indications a report by the Nikkei Asian review says the actual amount of iPhones at Apple is expected to produce by the end of 2017 has been cut in half because of inventory per Chinn delays we'll talk about those issues specifically from a recent Bloomberg report 20 million units where normally they were expecting 40 million units by the end of this year that's a big deal when you talk about spreading that inventory globally that's that's gonna be hard to get like I keep on saying it you guys are gonna feel that my pain Jordans Yeezys classic SNES is Super NES classic all the people that were crying you're gonna cry I think you're gonna cry a little harder come tonight I'm just that's how I that's how I feel I cried I mean yes classic man I feel like I'm not even trying to be a height beast so so key key element use the app use Apple's website and use the carrier hit him with that triple threat and load it on multiple devices with multiple browsers if you've ever tried to get Comic Con tickets yeah you'll know what you'll know how thirsty we all get this is this is better than comic-con because that's a lottery this isn't a lottery at least you have a chance to get one so get your kids involved get them get devices in their hand Calissa Darren Tyler Jake all my nieces and nephews I expect you to be on your devices with this is not option you have a medical doctor paired for all your nieces and nephews have like my information in one place it's it's gonna be I don't know I mean maybe maybe it's not but I feel like it's gonna be rough I think there's we know how much the internet bitch is about stuff I think it's gonna be really bad tomorrow like everyone's complaining about their iPhone 8th right now so you know there's gonna be a huge wave when the 10 comes out my buddy Gil Cabrera I've heard those comic-con tickets are hard to get bTW funny um so yes do that that's that's my tip of the day best of luck you may the odds be ever in your favor throw up three throw up 2 3 4 ooh that's a you know you see Hunger Games Beach I actually haven't know I haven't seen them that joke meant nothing to you I do not why you're like like whatever Brian just just talk to the people all right let's move along and talk about this really interesting and in-depth story that was broken by that dropped yesterday after we shot our show the actual video show from Bloomberg and the title is that inside Apple struggle to get the iPhone 10 to market on time now we know that there's been a variety of production issues we know that specifically to the sensors but this is the most detailed account that we have ever heard detailing you know what had happened to Bloomberg of what had happened behind the scenes in Apple's factories so what I kind of wanted to do is paint this picture you got to follow along with me and go through some of these key elements that this amazing story really dug deep in should I read Apple's comment to the response to the story first before we get into this Beach what do you think course please okay Apple's statement in response to this story before we get into the Nitty Gritty because this is always icky sheds he said she said type situation in fact this is kind of actually literally he said she said Apple spokeswoman Trudy Miller said that Bloomberg's claimed that it reduced the accuracy spec for face ID is completely false and we expect face ID to be the new gold standard for facial authentication the quality and accuracy of face ID haven't changed it continues to be one in a million probability of a random person unlocking your iPhone with face ID and again I fight I kind of actually forgot to say that the Bloomberg report claims that Apple basically dialed down and told suppliers that they didn't need to make the sensors for the true depth camera as accurate in order for them to produce more components that would be able to then be used in phones that is the report and the claim by Bloomberg Apple says no way Jose like this is not because they're trying to be like no this is just as good as we advertised Bloomberg is saying otherwise so let me walk through the steps of what Bloomberg is talking about with the iPhone 10 specifically in kind of the saga behind it now about a month ago this is kind of phase one about a month ago Foxconn Technology Group pulled as many as 200 workers off the iPhone 10 production line Apple we know that they were having problems getting sufficient components for this phone so that resulted in them actually needing fewer people to put it together the main culprit was the 3d sensor that recognizes face and on the handset Foxconn declined to comment more specifically more information remembered when you look at this iPhone 10 true depth camera this is basically like a Microsoft Kinect inside a phone now when you talk about supplies for that this is kind of a little cool data point remember the Kinect was like the size of like I don't know what would you say connects pretty small it's like you know like you're like a Bluetooth mini speaker right it's a Bluetooth mini speaker the Kinect sold 24 million units over two years okay so production wise that's not nearly as challenging Apple which is miniaturizing this - like my fingernail sells more than 200 million phones in a year there you go have problems yeah this is not easy here's the other element that was part of this you know reduced amount of iPhones not enough time despite demanding the near impossible normally Apple gives suppliers a typical two-year lead time but because of this tighter scheduled complexity of making this 3d true depth sensor that left a lot of their suppliers on a short time to prepare their factories and also explains partially why the iPhone 10 is getting released like a full six weeks later than the iPhone 8 now yeah it's an aggressive design this is part of it but here's even more right this true DEP 3d sensor that is used for facial scanning and again what the crazy thing about this is we don't know if this is gonna be really how how fast this is gonna perform and so apples going through a lot of this trouble to bring this next generation tech that we foresee to be faster and better in the future but here we go right this 3d sensor has three key elements a flood illuminator that kind of shines this light on your face right it beams an infrared light on your face that we can't see the camera uses that to establish there's a face the second part of this is this dot projector that they talked about that flashes 30,000 dots on your face to kind of build your face and then a third camera is an infrared camera that actually reads those dots to confirm that it's you so those are three elements that are that are really at the heart of this now the actual dot projector is the heart of the production problems for Apple we know that there were reports that they were having trouble producing these multiple modules that combine to make this dot projector that were causing the shortages the laser beam light through a lens known as wafer level optics focuses these thirty thousand points of infrared light projected onto user's face so they had problems producing that and producing enough of them at the quality inspect that Apple wanted for the phone next up another roadblock Apple lost one of its laser suppliers early on the company called finis R Corp they failed to meet apples specs because again Apple gave these companies a shorter time line because of the difficulty in the complexity and this stuff is hard i I would never claim to know how these people like they're also under pressure to it's this is not an easy job people are like spending time over in Asia to make sure this happens away from their families just to get this phone right like I understand all this we have fun ripping on them but let's be real like there is perspective here they lost one of their laser suppliers that meant less components because they weren't able to meet the spec in addition to that the fragility of these components traded problems for the remaining two kind of manufacturers LG Innotech and sharp corporation who struggled to combine the laser and the lens to make this actual dot projector at one point the report says twenty percent of the dot projectors produced by the two companies were actually usable this one T percent this sounds like they're building like the Hubble telescope in your phone I mean this is just like one tiny piece of the phone to imagine all the other parts and like you know just components that go into this phone that they have to perfect and it makes extremely precise but this is this is an incredible story like lasers we're talking about laser the laser freaking lasers on their head it's great laser it is crazy so I have to write 20 percent yield rate of these dot protectors that's holding up the entire process slowing down how many units they can actually build LG Innotech and sharp themselves slowed down the production process in efforts to kind of prevent these dot projectors from breaking during the assembly that was one of the issues that was happening so finally in order to what Bloomberg is reporting in addition to all these amazing details in order to boost the number of usable dot projectors and to accelerate the production Apple relaxed some of the specifications for the face ID module according to multiple people with knowledge of the process and as a result because it took less time to test these modules and they weren't so stringent which typically they are very very let's be honest it's Apple in the past they've been very anal retentive about this stuff it was one of the sticking points but it allegedly allowed them to at least bump up the yield rates Apple again when I say he he said she said apples say no this is not true at all they are just as accurate as possible we'll we will never we will actually never know this right yeah yeah we will not people have 1 million people use a phone and test it to really be like yeah it is one in a million actor I mean that's that's a number they're throwing out anyways just for fun it could be a little more than a million it could be a little less it could be close to that but the always the fun stuff about this we have all these details Apple will just always say it's not true will actually never know the truth of it yeah we will never really know Apple will never come out and say we did change the spec no one had the an original component from unless someone gets an original component and can show us without a shadow of a doubt that this yeah you know project some more dot sores more detailed than the current one we'll never know and will we really care I mean insiders like us love eat this stuff up I think we'll care if our face idea is broken or doesn't work you know then we're gonna care but uh it sounds like relax is like a code word for cutting kind of like this we're not gonna make it in time this is very hard to make so let's just let's just cut some corners and make it faster right so that's the story of the week yeah exactly right Apple reportedly has reduced the face ID accuracy to speed up the iPhone temp reduction I think a lot of people that want an iPhone 10 probably actually the more I think about it your general consumer that does not even pay attention to hey this doesn't even care they don't even care they don't care but Apple care a lot right now and they're probably tripping out man just a reminder the iPhone 10 pre-order starts Friday at 12:01 a.m. right that's Friday morning I'm sorry for my east coast East Coast peeps 3:00 a.m. if you thirsty if you're thirsty they do go to work they do it on Pacific time yeah yeah 12-amp it's the big time bro Cupertino time yeah and don't worry you'll get my tweets at like 12:00 and 1:00 like stores not open how about you 12:07 stores still not open how about you like everyone starts freaking out everyone starts freaking out that'll be fun you should lifestream that ain't gonna livestream I got this I don't people don't need to see that all right so there that's kind of the latest iPhone 10 stuff in a bundle the other story that dropped this week that was again from Bloomberg this time from Bloomberg Businessweek is kind of detailing more about Apple's billion dollar bet on Hollywood and really saying that you know not only this the Apple is trying to figure out what they're doing it's the opposite of edgy and what we mean by that is Apple wants content that could be played in an Apple store that could be seen there and we know what are the hottest shows that people care about right now right now name name a few and tell me if they're edgier or you know if they're a little more mature a little more rooted and like I still will put Walking Dead in that group Game of Thrones i'll an extremely violent aim with like netflix has got narcos right these are shows that you're just like oh my god like what network TV show right now today is garnering anywhere near the buzz that a cable network show or an HBO show is doing these days the only one that I can think of honestly as this is us which I do watch question I can't think of a show that's like hugely popular that's like very I mean may be like those singing contest competition shows which those are the few shows that you need you know competition shows drawn the same type of audience like a live sports audience you want to be there and see it as it happens right this is Apple doing programming to compete with Netflix with Hulu with Amazon and cable networks and you're telling me they want to come up with like family-friendly stuff I mean you can but I had it's not like it's gonna blow that you know blow things out we've already seen the first two efforts with careful carpool karaoke and plan of the apps now here's a really interesting thing to kind of talk about where Apple's mind is and how this could trickle down in the future so days this is according to Bloomberg Bloomberg Businessweek story days before Apple planned to celebrate the release of its first TV show last spring Tim Cook told his deputies the fun had to wait foul language and references to vaginal hygiene had to be cut from some of the episodes of carpool karaoke celebrities like palanquin Paltrow Jessica Alba Blake Shelton and Chesley Hannah Chelsea Handler were cracking jokes while driving around la the delay was widely reported last April but then reasons never were the reasons now have surfaced that edits were made and additional episodes were shot to sanitize the show because it wasn't family family-friendly enough so when carpool karaoke released in August we know it didn't it's in a blos way some people told me they liked it I still it was not enough for me to get an Apple music subscription but it shows the challenges that Apple as a tech company they've hired two execs from Sony to drive their content they are investing reportedly 1 billion dollars but if Apple is gonna kind of control and shape like uh you know if Tim Cook is gonna say ah this shows a little risque we don't want that well what are you what are you gonna make like look at oh my gosh the what is why can't I kid why can't I remember the name of the show that we talked about with a with Dre and um oh and I'm forgetting the name - Johnny Ives is it icons was that I like Ike knows I'm assuming a look it up real quick some people that are watching can tell it will tell us this right now it's it's like like icons or something like I can't remember anyways just pull it up while we talk about this but yeah look apple is gonna have an identity problem if they they wanted the report says they want comedies and emotional dramas with broad appeal the Defiant ones thank you the great great ridiculous yes you haven't seen the Defiant ones please watch it I still haven't seen episode three at the source Awards which is arguably everyone says it's the most intense the most intense story there but yeah Apple wants comedies and emotional dramas with broad appeal and it's like okay we'll see we've already seen what they've done the two sony core executives that they've brought in Jamie Ehrlich and Zack Van Amburg former heads of Sony Corp corporations TV studio we'll see I mean look what are the most iconic shows of all time the wire Breaking Bad and now obviously we have a game of Thrones tell me are those shows risque hell yeah yes like they push the boundaries of what we have expected or known to see on TV I mean I could see Apple getting into like children's programming I feels like that's kind of great I'm gonna watch that I'm gonna watch that dude I know right I mean they are trying to target young I'm sure they're trying to target young audience and kids who play with iPhones and iPods or whatever so I could see them getting into like children's programming you know which it makes yeah it could is it their main rival will be Netflix who throw every all my nieces and nephews the young ones at least they're all about Netflix all they do is watch all their shows on Netflix they don't care if Apple's coming up with a new TV show that your parents have to pay $10 a month just to watch yeah and look to guild Cabrera's point would your parents pay for that $10 just to watch a show for your kids where you have Netflix already there and you're already using it and Netflix gives you so much like Netflix is just crushing it oh my god are you ready for oh wait you don't have a Netflix yet bro don't I'm still I'm still a Amazon pretty much anyone Prime has every cool kid show that you need greater things stranger things bro I do want to see that I do want to see that show gosh I can't honestly I mean I can't talk to you right now I don't have time to watch TV man I barely have time all right um let's let's get to our mid roll break we'll talk about some of the companies that Apple is in legal battles with but uh we're gonna take a little breather right now to show some love for our sponsor this week 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please right now like wow it's is it Thursday today man we still got Friday man I got a stamp till 12 a.m. for this Apple iPhone 10 I'm doing it all right two things we covered in the show we won't get into too in-depth but Apple recently this week was sued by company over the an emoji trademark the company's name was a monster we know how Apple basically came out if you look at the exact keynote Bill Schiller outright says we came up with a new thing that we are calling an emoji like they outright said it like they came up with the idea the real story behind this is that there's a company called a monster they created an app on the App Store trademarked it in 2014 the app has like over 18,000 downloads it's called an emoji the report from the e monster creators was that companies approached him this summer conveniently before the iPhone 10 release asking if they could purchase that front purchase the trademark from him he said no I don't want you to do that he believed they were shell companies like Apple comes up with these like fake company names to to pose as another company what was the name of it one of the shell companies that approached them was called the emoji law group LLC is the an emoji so funny that's like a super packed kind of you know so after yeah oh yeah after he didn't sell it he was threatened with a cancellation of the trademark alright but if he didn't sell it to them now our friend Gil Cabrera who is a who's in the legal world would would enjoy this stuff and probably give us way more insight he opted not to sell but then on September 11th just prior to the debut of the iPhone 10 Apple filed a petition with the US Patent and Trademark Office to cancel the an emoji trademark they tried they filed a petition it is still that the petition has not been it's still basically they're still waiting on a decision on that it has not been pushed through it's still like in limbo but this the owner of a monster is now suing Apple saying yeah you try not only did you clearly try to buy it off me you knew it existed you didn't give enough about it and you went out there and made it like it was your own and I I hope that this dude gets paid I want this guy to get paid because that's just so cocky of Apple like have billions of dollars you know they probably low-balled him they're like uh here's $500,000 for the an emoji trademark can we buy it from you now give this man what he deserves now you're going on now you're in trouble oh yes show some emails you know show some phone calls and then he's he's he's swimming him dough swimming in some money so that's pretty insane Cabrera says he's gonna get paid he's definitely gonna get paid he's gonna get paid more than he turned down that crappy offer that appaled then the thing is Apple pretended to be a different company to buy it from him and then got mad about it that's so weird and then the name of the company is like very misleading too you know like we are they what was it again emoji law group LLC is so funny they're they're like the lot lawyers of emojis that's so weird look the iPad name was used by if I recall right diggin back in my bank I believe some company like Cisco or a tech company like that owned the actual iPad trademark Apple paid them for it they tried to swindle this dude behind the scenes without him knowing it was Apple so he's gonna get paid wow that's a crazy story man in another story about the lawsuit that will never end the Apple versus Samsung lawsuit will be dragged into its eighth year with a retrial scheduled for next May now if you remember this whole back-and-forth and write the whole claims of Apple said hey Samsung you copied our design of the phone they showed examples of how it their new phone like the s4 and other models started to look exactly like the Apple iPhone 3GS after all this back and forth and we know how crazy it was right Apple successfully sued Samsung for infringing upon their patented design an Apple was initially rewarded or awarded so not rewarded was initially awarded nearly 1 billion dollars in damage but then a significant part of that was reversed in 2015 that said ok Samsung only owes 548 million later on that amount was even lowered again this is over the course of years my friends lowered to 399 million dollars and now earlier this week Judge Lucy Koh ordered that a new trial is required to determine whether Apple's 399 million award for samsung's infringement should stand or whether a new damages trial is required still going on you know who the real winner is is in this whole thing the lawyers the lawyers are winning big time right now they're like oh we got eight years of Apple and some Samsung paying us for our legal fees we're winning winning oh that's so good it's a classic anyways um good luck with that I it's a story that I didn't want to bring up but it's kind of getting ridiculous now it's just getting ridiculous um we're gonna jump over to just a couple cool things new betas for Mac OS High Sierra v Mac OS v beta is out also v beta for iOS 11.1 is out I actually because they're kind of further along in the beta process I actually downloaded it to my phone v beta and the Apple watch specifically for watch OS 4.1 and I'm telling you if any of you who enjoy your Apple watch series 3 LTE specifically I think you're gonna like it a whole lot more in this new we've talked a little bit about it but the new watch OS 4.1 you're going to now be able to stream Apple music but in addition to that it's also going to be able to connect to Apple radio stations so what I mean by that like while I'm on the go if I'm working out at the gym there's a few stations that are set up on this Apple watch that you can listen to directly one of them I have to you know I'm not trying to make this an advertisement or anything but one of them is CBS Radio but there's others like I think PBS has a radio station on it ESPN has a radio station on here Bloomberg radio so you can just take you et sorry not PBS so there's a few like new stations on there as well as access to the entire Apple music if you are an apple music subscriber and in addition access to your iCloud music library as well I'm not a big fan of Ike music because some ways it handles things like honestly it's I don't I just say enter at your own risk with iCloud music but I do I do use it one of the questions that we had over the phone and I felt like we were just answered here is Jeff in Houston had asked about dude what's going on with watch OS for he has a series to watch and if any of you have noticed in the past and this is I mean this is a bad apple types this is crap but you used to be able to actually access your entire library on your phone when it was connected through the music app like how cool is that right any songs that were on your phone for now you can access them to your Apple watch they got rid of that specific connectivity and watch OS 4 and wise why isn't a problem because you can't access your entire music library now they did bring more storage 16 gigs of storage the new seriously watch so you could load specific playlists and songs onto your Apple watch but that's completely different than getting access to your entire phone library on your phone I think what Apple is trying to do here and I don't like it is that they're saying hey if you subscribe to Apple music and our iTunes itunes cloud library I Tunes cloud library you'll be able to get your entire music collection that way but you have to pay for that that's two masses right that's two services you have to pay for that to do that it's they took away basically free functionality to access your entire library collection by doing that I love the radio aspect but I don't like that and I think it's I think it's a bunch of crap honestly so unfortunately Jeff and that's what I think that's what they're trying to push you towards which is not cool yeah the radio aspect is cool but it's also gonna count towards your you know your data plan so you're gonna be eating up early Wi-Fi in the gym yeah true true but I'm just saying it most likely your LT yeah then the caller also said oh crap I forgot I was gonna say what what he mentioned but uh you know he was saying that was like the only feature he really used on his Apple watch and yeah it's like it's almost like useless to him now which is a bummer you know yeah there's also other radio stations that are featured here like not my personal favorite but uh we've got like modern country you've got um classic electronic rock so there's actual like genres of music that you can listen to as well which is kind of cool I thought that was actually pretty cool yeah gospel hip hop are gonna be all that stuff like all my classic hip hop so you do have access to all the stations like I'm telling you like as a fan of the Apple watch series 3lt because of how I use it to work out I think it makes it a whole lot cooler um it also will connect to Jim supported like elliptical machines and things like that through the gym kit support so that's also it's coming it's still in beta right now but it's I think it's in like its fourth beta so it will be coming soon most likely we're gonna see these all launched during the time that the new iPhone comes out November 3rd I've got imagine they're gonna drop around that time that's typically when it happens so we'll wait and see on that the other thing related to the Apple watch and honestly I had no idea this was going on but a recent report that just that came out last week maybe about five days ago is that the Apple watch cellular version hits a snag specifically in China what according to reports is basically China's state-run government turned off or demanded that they turn off the LTE connection for Apple watches in China like you can't use an Apple watch with an independent cellular connection even if it has that feature because it was abruptly cut off for new subscribers without any explanation none whatsoever and that's that's China's state-run government at work they felt that there was a risk because you aren't able to their risks working related to tracking users of the device which uses different technology than the standard mobile phones it's using an ECM technology that not all carriers are compatible with that was one of their worries but I want to give for people that don't really understand you know how lucky we are here in the US quite honestly like look I'm gonna give you a list of websites specifically blocked in China that everyone here takes for granted and are you ready for this Beach hold on to your butt's gay for ya Google Google Maps Google Docs Facebook YouTube Twitter Instagram Pinterest pornhub it's on the list I decide dailymotion Vimeo Dropbox the SoundCloud these are all currently blocked sites in China that you cannot get access to if you go visit they're all things that are like you can you know you can send messages encrypted to people mostly and like send information and China is afraid of like an uprising you know they're afraid of their people so every time something like this comes out they just have to lock it down they're afraid of you know a revolution happening so it's it's very sad for Chinese so you know a lot of our listeners are young young listeners just understand how lucky we are though all of those sites are completely blocked in China now they do have their own versions but they're more controlled they don't give you their they're made theirs versions of those in China specifically because the government wants to oversight on the communications that are happening over there and these are apps that we take for granted every day that are just an icon on our screen that we can click instantly and get access to so much information you can't get any of that over in China so that's when you when you someone says oh they turn off LTE in on the Apple watch that is crap you have to understand the nature of how that how the country is run and how it's a state government controlled country when it comes to communications and things like that so yeah just want to let you know the Apple watch no longer is able to use LTE in China at the moment kind of a bummer kind of makes me sad actually thinking about that like like there's a lot of people out there you know whose voices are can't be heard because of that so uh yeah there you go all right you know what listen you wanted to get to our calls right now let's do it let's move on thank you guys all for calling we had a lot of good calls this week and we narrowed it down to five five solid ones so he'll have five baby this music okay here we go number one hi Beach this is Justin called from Minneapolis yeah I asked a question a while back and I don't need you to put my call on the air but even if you just answer it you know you know through the show somehow as you guys are talking about things but I was wondering about an iPhone 9 if next year instead of you know just you know dropping the eight and after a while and going straight to the ten are they going to do a nine version of you know what the next eight would be essentially still doing the ten but you know are they going to do that or they just going to you know cross everything over to the ten in the long run or even short run next year so anyway let me know thanks so much thanks for the column in uh all reports that we've seen specifically from Ming ching-kuo kji security is kind of like iPhone rumor info guru hit I think last week or two weeks ago he said that all iPhones moving forward that will be produced in 2018 we'll take take a cue from Apple's iPhone 10 design and yes we'll probably see something that will be an iPhone se type of coolant that will stay with that line but moving for no new hardware or all new hardware will be based off of the iPhone 10 design and I think what you'll see more than anything is they're gonna learn a lot from this iPhone 10 we don't know what issues that's going to have we've seen last year's issues with the note 7 we've seen this year's issues with the screen alleged but not officially confirm screen burnin issues with the Google pixel to XL phone model specifically which I was super juiced about but I'm kind of like tempering my expectations until we hear what Google has to say about that but making phones is hard when you introduce completely new technology like this there are probably going to be some level of issues in the past we've seen Apple go very unscathed the bend in other years we've seen antenna gate we've seen what was the other we've seen the ceramic 3GS is crack in the corners that antenna gate was with the iPhone 4 what was the other gates I mean there's so we had been gate with the iPhone 5 so we've seen that we're when people sat on it the phone was actually bending this stuff's not easy do I expect a major issue to come out I hope not for all companies I don't want any issues to come out because if you love technology you want to see all boats rise with the tide I know you like when I say that beach yeah like that one it's like it's important to lift everyone up so um I hope there's not but if there is you know we might throw a few bad apples at him there's definitely gonna be some bad apples I bet there always are ok next call hey guys it's me Ricky Dallas I just want to say that my first iPhone with the iPhone 5c and that was actually phoned to get me hooks without freaking misleading phones plastic kept breaking on me I couldn't keep the screen not breaking even with an otterbox but it was the operating system the iOS now I like doing just smooth and they just felt very clean and I just like the iOS that's what got me hooked it wasn't the plastic crappy phone it was just the iOS in general thank you guys yeah I agree totally guy you know what look everyone there I'm not trying to offend people when I rip on the iPhone 5c it's just that it was just so unassuming about phones and deciding between phones it's an ecosystem thing now you're you're either locked in and you're if you really want to take a huge leap and switch ecosystems whatever direction that is you can but it's gonna feel weird and uncomfortable for at first and then you'll probably get used to like anything I just find it fascinating how I was at the Google pop-up shop in LA last weekend and I literally heard a conversation between three dudes that were looking at the pixel to excel and one of them was like yeah but you won't get the blue blue text bubbles if you go pixel ah like yeah they were outright talking about why I was like oh my gosh like you know the fact that they just changed the color for iMessages is has literally like created this bond or this connection in people's brains that it's not the same and um yeah like then one of the guys said well you know this girl I dated with she didn't have an iPhone and I switched to Android for her for a while but then when we broke up my next one was an iPhone I was like what people are talking about that's incredible that's my Millennials now am i millennial and we're like right on the edge of like generation like I heard this conversations I'm like you literally chose your phone based on who you were dating and then went back because of the text bubbles like is this really happening total factual evidence I heard right across me like oh I can't I can't deal with this stuff maybe interview those kids we need to find out more that's interesting alright yeah let's get another call we got more calls here here we go number three I want to hear more people who will not let go of their phones because of the blue iMessages mic yeah there there is something to say about that I mean you know I mean I totally agree okay here we go hey guys this is Lulu I'm going to buy the new iPhone 10 and luckily my parents live on the mainland they have expanding internet TV earlier this year experience set up a mobile virtual network call it Xfinity mobile their plan is $45 a month and they operate on rising powers my question is if they're an advantage of going away directly would a carrier like Verizon instead of going with a Marshall mobile virtual network operators such as King Xfinity La Voz Virgin Mobile also last week in a podcast you forgot to shout out information in Hawaii you gave all your teachers from now Wow okay for the record yes my man I can't remember what his name was that's hilarious a lot of the shirts that I rock that have the high wording on it the scribble a lot of people ask me where I got that it is one of my favorite companies information I and number four nation based on Hawaii you know my mom is born and raised there so I spend a lot of time there I got a show love cuz I spent all my summers there as a kid it's like it's someone I go there it's like I'm just living there eating food and surfing and hanging so um yes correct Oh as for your call about using you know a virtual network or not I you know in Hawaii for me personally it's just all about if it's all about the signal it's all about the signal and every place is different I found that AT&T if I recall right see now my brain is I'm trying to switch because I when I want to travel I bring out a pixel and a work phone and my personal phone and if I recall right I felt like Verizon was a lot better than AT&T on Hawaii if I remember and it's been like that a few years I don't maybe maybe I'm switching the two but I always felt like Verizon was a lot better in Hawaii than AT&T was and to me it always just comes down to which carriers better I know you can always look that type of stuff up but it comes down to where you live and where you are most of the time and sometimes you got to find out the hard ways which carry works best so I'm not against any carrier it just comes down to how you use it in LA Verizon is way better than AT&T because of the topography in Vegas Verizon is way better than AT&T within the San Francisco I think AT&T works awesome oh it doesn't work good for me in San Francisco actually I have a lot of grabs for the AT&T in San Francisco maybe it's my phone maybe it's the way I'm holding my phone I don't know but um he's also like an iPhone like four or something right now bro I got a success he was also asking about these like mobile networks like Xfinity mobile and stuff do you know anything about I don't know anything about those well it's like it's like third part it's like third-party networks like um what's one is like cellular one that basically they license and some of the cell some of the cell towers from companies to use and brand their own and they sell their own stuff so that it's it's basically like you piggybacking off of a carriers towers to build your own carrier in essence and they pay out a fee for that so that's why I'm saying it that's why I was telling them it's a I don't know how well the Xfinity mobile provider over there is it just comes down good the signal is and where you most likely use it yeah Xfinity is a trip because they are putting like all these Wi-Fi signals like all over the country you know so like I'll be cruising along on the bus or something in my phone will connect to a Wi-Fi signal that's like an Xfinity Wi-Fi router somewhere just you know around the safe totally safe totally safe it's it's actually kind of cool it helps me sometimes you know but it is weird and if I'm like if I connect to one and I'm like far away from it and I have a slow connection then it kind of screws me up you know I have to like disconnect from it so I can get back on LTE to use my phone properly so they're kind of hit or miss right now you know from I'm always I always avoid those honest I just disconnect from them yeah yeah we've we've got my buddy shoot their name just faded away but our buddy on periscope says three minutes away from the Australia launch of the iPhone 10 Oh just letting y'all know Aussie Aussie Aussie okay we got one more call let me just make sure that we didn't already play this one hey guys this is Mike from Texas was wondering with the iPhone ten that's ten emojis they will just walk from iPhone 10 2010 or they will also work with iPhone tend to like any iPhone or cell on it or anything like that because of that tube depth sensing sensing housing the fun will the anymore this will only work with ice 110 or let me work with any of them if iPhone change it if we can change it from - 10 - any other do is thank you guys for anything about the actual underlying theme behind this is he really wants to make sure his an emojis work with other comes importantly if that's really the reason now from all indications when you make an an emoji with an iPhone 10 it sends it as a separate file to other users so the expectation is that they will be able to see them obviously they can't make their own an emojis unless they have an iPhone 10 so from what I gather you're probably gonna looking to buy a 10 and you want to make sure that people see you're a poopoo an emoji face my assumption good luck with that I'm sure people are gonna be thrilled about it iPhone 1010 off but no okay laughs this is the last call actually I was mistaken before here we go it was our same guy that said best best best place I could be yeah I don't know if that was you call back and confirm were you the same color from last news like bezel is bezels bezel s I want and I want that I want that okay everybody thanks call hey y'all this is general McCullough here from the great white north up in Canada and this question is for Brian specifically because somebody over here is our black I phones anyways Brian I know you're all about that Apple life why are you getting nice content is because you like it or is because it's turns awesome anyway it's my top i phones five iPhones is iPhone 3GS iPhone 4s iPhone 6 plus iPhone 6s and my favorite is just awesome yes that's right the first awesome because that's what Apple really meant back in the day thanks piece I got another iPhone classic man the number one when ice I swear if people that bought that one like they're there's so much sentimental value around because it was a game-changer man it it blew my mind blew my frickin mind YouTube chat room is accusing you of having cricket cellular I don't know I got cricket seen you got cricket man the kohai I don't have cricket at all man I don't have cricket and they're they're starting they're starting with me they're starting stuff with me Ryan you better watch yourself chap watches cricket come on man so what was it cricket was offering one of those carriers whereas was actually offering a an iPhone 10 deal I wonder if it was cricket I can't remember now could be yeah but I what was the guy's question again or he was just talking about oh you're I've why did you want the iPhone 10 why that's main questioner the funny thing is like yeah I have a majority of Apple products but I'm not all about that Apple I mean I have Alexis stuff I have Google stuff I have Roku stuff ci but yeah is my main primary ecosystem Apple absolutely a always gonna be the ecosystem be I've had every iPhone other than the 4s because I thought the forest was doodoo so that would probably lend itself to be like yeah he's gonna get the iPhone tenant I'm curious to see as a reviewer as someone who has who does this stuff the Apple byte I probably should get the iPhone 10 so I can talk about it I mean I don't about you I think that makes sense that would help with your credibility I'm sure yes and I'm for the record I buy all of my stuff I do not get a single thing for free that's why I feel free to speak my opinion and not look over my shoulder I buy every single one of my devices I'm never hand then Apple has never given me a device ever to review so and no company has ever given me a device to review that I can then use until the next device and I think that's important I'm just sorry when you put down your own cash for something you're gonna feel differently about it and that's why I'm I'm a little more passionate about and I'm willing to speak my mind more because I put money down on this stuff I didn't get it as a review product and for the record Brian gives away every like all the free stuff you get usually given away in a you know in a Content ID something which is cool I I reach out to companies just to give me stuff so I can give fans of you know goodies like there's no fee giveaway in this week's show just all the stuff cuz it's fun like you know why can't we all like benefit from enjoying this stuff it's badass you know I would like an iPhone 10 - but I don't have the money so I think we all want an iPhone 10 you know you think I have money to buy that outright it's going straight to the credit cart that gives me miles to go to Hawaii that's what it's doing man wait which credit card you used to get miles for Hawaii because I need that Hawaiian Airlines science card but I go there so often it's it's specific right nice otherwise you know I mean I'm not trying to advertise but my favorite card is the Chase Sapphire Preferred because all the miles you can transfer all your points to miles to Southwest directly oh that's pretty awesome I I can talk to about that later man the answers oh they should probably do that oh yeah well that's it okay that's all she wrote that's all thanks Beach everyone again if you want to be a part of the show the number to call is