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hey how's it going guys this is Dave - D and this is a video on some six core computers so a little while ago I mentioned how I was interested in upgrading my setup because my retina 15-inch MacBook Pro was getting a little bit sluggish with video edits so normally if you do like a 10 minute video in 4k it takes about an hour to render but as I learned more about color correction and just do more animations those renders were starting to hit two hours and sometimes even longer so I wanted something that was a little bit faster originally I was looking at some eight core computers now they're very fast and they're relatively inexpensive compared to what eight core computers used to cost you know three four years ago but right now they are still a little bit more expensive than I want to spend my money on and I found that six core computers are where it's kind of like the best bang for your buck so here's a video it's not really not so much of a review as more of a you know showcase or a comparison between how a Mac 6 core setup runs and how a PC 6 course setup runs so here's the video hope you enjoy let's start off talking about case design so the Mac Pro has always looked super cool to me it's aluminum it's incredibly small and even though this thing's been out since the end of 2013 I'm always still impressed every time I look at one of these things it really is kind of crazy how small this thing is compared to any kind of PC out there and in the odd chance that you haven't seen this before to remove the outer shell there's like a little latch in the back and you just lift it up now for the PC I actually tried to build the entire system into the smallest micro ATX case I could find which is the Roswell legacy v4 I had to use a micro ATX because there are no mini ITX x99 boards but even though I got everything to fit it was so crammed that airflow is terrible and my temperatures were just really bad so I ran it like this for a couple days but I took everything out and put it into a different case just because it was really impractical but in case you were wondering you can fit a full-sized graphics card into this case and what I ended up using was the corsair Air 250 so this is a significantly larger case it's still a micro ATX case but it's more spacious and there's just a lot more room for airflow and for cabling and stuff it has a tinted window so you can kind of see your components I'm not big on windows for PC cases but it's kind of fun and this case can be put on any one of its side so you can lay it down flat or you can put it on its side you just position it to whichever way you want and in case you forgot how small that MacPro is here it is again alright so the internals the Mac Pro has a single fan it's a big fan but because it's so large it can spin really slowly and move a decent amount of air this thing idles are around 800 rpm and you can't hear it but we'll get into sound stuff later there's a good number of ports in the back but most of them are Thunderbolt and there's actually not that many accessories that I personally use that use Thunderbolts or a DisplayPort so I feel like some of those are wasted everything connects to the back I don't really like there's no front-facing ports so I'm just going to spin the Mac Pro around while I talk about some specs this thing has 32 gigs of RAM and has a pair of ATI d500 so this is Apple's mid-range video card for the Mac Pro well the type of work I do for video editing it doesn't really require a super powerful graphics card so this is a pretty good option in terms of price point and this thing has an Intel Xeon 6 core that runs at 3.5 gigahertz per core and depending on the number of cores that are active it can turbo boost to 3.8 or even 4 gigahertz per core this Mac Pro has been available since the very end of 2013 or realistically early 2014 and the parts that are in this PC became available in late summer of 2014 so there's better an 8 month difference in terms of the age of the tech so inside this thing we have an Intel 58 20 so this is their 6 core it runs up 3.6 gigahertz but have easily overclocked this thing to 4.2 it's water-cooled with a corsair h 100 i and i'm running this with two fans on pull it's not going to be the best in terms of cooling performance but i really don't like a noisy build and i just want to have as few fans as possible i have these fans running at around 1100 rpm so it's running 32 gigs of DDR 4 and it's running an EVGA GTX 980 I had a Titan X in here but in terms of benchmarks they were almost identical for the stuff I do and because I like things that are blue I found some blue cabling on eBay that looks very nice and I just replaced most of the modular cabling with this and all of this is running on an EVGA micro X 99 I'm not gonna do testing with games just because you know the PC is just gonna destroy the Mac but I didn't pick up these systems for gaming they're basically just for video editing ok so here's some Geekbench scores and some Cinebench scores you okay on to the testing that's more relevant to video editing so I use Premiere Pro a lot of video editors use other programs like Final Cut but I started learning with Premiere and After Effects so I'm probably just gonna stick with it so here are some render times and just for reference like mid 2014 15 inch MacBook Pro the base model that rendered the 4k ten minute video in 52 minutes now here's the thing before it picked up the Mac I was pretty sure that the PC would just destroy the Mac just because of how many YouTube videos there are about how poorly a Mac Pro performs compared to an equivalent PC and I didn't really find that here granted this PC cost about 2500 and this is a refurb Mac Pro that cost about 3,200 so there's a big difference in price and because that Mac Pro has tech that's from a previous generation I'm actually surprised how closely we're in terms of the benchmark performance all right let's talk about noise and heat when it's idle the Mac Pro is essentially silent it's like 20 decibels is basically the sound of your room and interestingly when you put it under load it becomes slightly more audible but it's still really really quiet to the point where you have to put your ear over the exhaust just to make sure it's running the Mac gets to about 26 27 decibels when the computer is running full tilt that's crazy quiet it's such an attractive point to this computer for people that record audio in front of their computers this thing's amazing and the water-cooled PC I'm actually running this on to fans as quietly as possible and I'm getting 32 decibels it's certainly not loud and it's manageable and this entire video has been recorded with both computers running in the background idling and when you start doing some renders the fans kick in and I'll just let you listen to it yeah that's really loud now keep in mind the fans only come on once in a while even when it's rendering but that's almost 50 decibels now if I'm not mistaken for every 10 decibels you go up it's a perceived doubling involving so 49 or 50 decibels is a lot louder than 22 so this massive difference in fan noise probably comes with a big difference in the thermal output so let's take a look at that with the Fleur one thermal camera all right so on the left is the Mac Pro and on the right is the PC and these are the two computers at idle and the temperatures you see on screen are the CPU core temperatures so that Mac Pro runs really cool when it's idling and the PC is actually significantly warmer and if you'll remember a little bit louder at idle and in this video this is when the two computers are under load so all six cores are being used the video card is being used pretty heavily and the fans are going full blast the Hat Mac Pro looks like a radioactive bomb it's really hot but it's also very quiet and the PC is super loud but it's quite a bit cooler than the map keep in mind that it is a Xeon processor which is a workstation grade processor and those things are built to take a lot more heat and have a longer lifespan so for the Mac Pro to run at 85 degrees it's alright but from what I've read it's not advisable to run the PC at really high temp for extended periods of time all right so you might be wondering which computer I ended up going with and you know what you probably don't care but I'm gonna tell you anyways I went with the PC I grew up on PCs and for the past little while I'd say seven or eight years I've been using Apple computers almost exclusively for work and for home and to the point where I feel like I've becoming a bit of an Apple fanboy inadvertently and my friends hurt me for it so I feel like this is a great time to get back into the windows groove kind of rheic spear Ian sit and with Windows 10 just around the corner I think this is a great time to give it a shot that's the end of the video I hope you guys liked it and more importantly I hope some of you guys learned a thing or two from it and maybe even inspired or kind of directed your own purchasing decisions for video editing rigs of your own but if you have any questions or comments just type them below and as always I'll do my best to answer them and yeah you guys liked it give me some thumbs and if you loved it give me some subs it's been nice I'll see you guys next time