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we're reviewing the 360 millimeter and IMAX tr4 lick tech cooler today matched up against the 240 millimeter variant with a special appearance from Noctua and the Nhu 14s air cooler our previous enter max 240 millimeter lake tech benchmark gave an understanding for where full-coverage liquid performs when compared to full coverage air and when compared to these smaller A's attack plates now we're expanding to look at how much radiator size impacts at 4 gigahertz 1.35 v core for a thread ripper 1950 X CPU before that this video is brought to you by thermal Grizzly makers of the conductor not liquid metal that we recently used to drop 20 degrees off of our coffee leak temperatures thermal grizzly also makes traditional thermal compounds we use on top of the IHS like cryo knot and hydronaut pastes learn more at the link below this one will be pretty quick our original version of this coverage covered the 240 millimeter animatics cooler versus the Noctua air cooler and the NZXT crack next to which is a smaller coverage coldplay ace attack unit and that unit is pretty expensive and pretty high-end it just didn't work very well on thread river because the cold blade size actually matters a lot so revisiting that today the main focus here is to look at the 240 versus 360 millimetre coolers from ni max to determine if after we've accounted for full coverage plates if the radiator size makes a meaningful difference with this particular cooler the NH u 14s tr4 if you can find it in stock should be about $80 the enter max Licht X 240 cooler should be about $130 and the 360 unit right here with 3 120 millimeter fans should be about $150 these are all US prices checked at the time of making the video so that's what we're looking at for price is a $20 difference between 240 and 360 part of this testing will focus on noise normalization where we lower down to 40 DB a fan speeds and then see how they perform at a fixed 40 decibel output the most important aspect here is that while a larger radiator may not afford gains in peak performance depend on what it is the radiator will afford better performance when you drop the noise levels further the threshold between where the temperatures are no longer safe is going to be a lower noise level for a 360 in it then for a 240 so keep that in mind as well and of course liquid is going to be objectively superior in identical test conditions with identical coolers it just is but the argument comes down to whether it makes sense for the user whether the price makes sense whether the the installation or the application of the cooler makes sense in the particular build that it's being used for so keep that in mind for you or use case as we go through the numbers as always testing methodology will be defined in the article in the description below so check that out if you're curious how we tested we are using delta T over ambient values here so this is a temperature readout over ambient that means that you can have numbers below ambient in terms of the reading but that's because it's a delta so we're starting out with a focus on the NR max units the NM attics 240 millimeter CLC with a prime95 workload at 100% keeps the CPU at about 50 point seven degrees Celsius over ambient and it has an idle temperature of about four point six degrees Celsius over ambient the 360 millimeter version of the animatics CLC which adds one fan and also uses full-coverage cold plates operates at forty six point six degrees Celsius and keeps an idle about four point two idle is within margins but the average core temperature under load has reduced approximately four degrees Celsius from the 240 millimeter unit at $150 for the 360 an 134 the 240 unit you're paying about an extra 10 dollars per two degrees Celsius if you look at it that way this is more something that's done for absolute peak performance or potentially lower noise and normalize thermal so we'll see that soon the Noctua nhe 14s maintains impressively competitive performance at 9 degrees warmer than the CLC 240 but as 12 point four degrees warmer than the 360 millimetre unit still for most people the NH e 14 house is going to be perfectly fine it just comes down to what you're doing with your CPU how far you're pushing it what kind of power is going through it and things like that still using prime95 but normal eye in the fans needs to equate a 40 decibel noise level where the Nhu 14s already sits the tr4 360 now runs 4 degrees warmer at 50.1 degrees Celsius and the TR 240 unit runs also about 4 degrees warmer from its previous full-speed baseline at fifty four point eight degrees Celsius the delta remains about the same between the coolers as previously as well and this also gets the liquid coolers closer to the Noctua cooler in performance because we're slowing them down and lowering the noise level theoretically this does mean that you could further lower noise floor from our 40 dB a readout like to 34 to 36 for instance and stay below the threshold at which the 240 would need a speed bump at 360 wouldn't that's the main way to realize an advantage here if that's something that's important to you back to 100% speeds now using blender blender puts our enter max units at forty two point three degrees sausage for the 240 millimeter units and thirty nine degrees Celsius for the 360 the knocked WA n hu 14s runs about forty nine point three degrees or ten see warmer than the 360 millimeter animatics unit which was about twice the price of the Knox with cooler weather that's worth it is entirely up to you the X 62 as demonstrated in previous content runs at comparatively awful performance given its price this is due to the limited contact area of the cold blade something that both knocked WA and enter max resolved with TR for specific cold blades and coolers limiting ourselves to 40 DBA the blender test has our enter max 360 millimeter unit at forty one point six degrees Celsius with a 240 millimeter unit running a six to seven degree warmer temperature at forty seven point nine degrees the Nhu 14s operates at 49 degrees showing again the value of Knox was optimization for what equates a forty DBA output that said enter Max is objectively superior in terms of thermal performance with the three hundred sixty millimeter unit and that primarily means that you could run still lower rpms on the animatics unit well beyond where the other coolers would enter dangerous territory it's just a matter of whether that price bump is worthwhile as the Nhu 14s is now at around eighty dollars a significant advantage finally here's the full noise charge this show is a lot of coolers that you wouldn't want to use or couldn't use on thread Ripper basically everything we've tested from LGA 1150 thousand eleven onward and includes the animatics coolers at their Maddox rpm along with the NIU 14s which will highlight all of those so strictly looking at the 240 in the 360 there's not a big difference if you were already committed to buying one of these liquid coolers and you're just wondering what the difference is between them for radiator size it comes down to an hour testing overclocked at about four degrees for most the tests and then you could leverage that extra performance Delta with a 360 to drop its fan speeds still lower if that's not something you typically do or plan to do there's really not any value in it unless I mean there's not even a size value because it's bigger so and still 120 millimeter fans so the 240 is plenty fine and isn't that much worse than the 360 price difference is 20 bucks so it's not that big of a jump either but still ten dollars per two degrees more or less is what you had a pain and that's not gonna gain you anything it's not gonna get you better overclocking it's not gonna get you anything extra at all really except for lower noise if you manually tune it so that's how to look at these numbers the Knoxville unit is $80 so quite a bit cheaper it's hard to find in stock right now but if you can find it at $80 it is it's a really impressive performer when compared to the liquid coolers it's still nine degrees warmer and some tests on the two forty twelve degrees warmer than the 360 in the same test but the thing you have to look at is where does that get you in terms of thermal performance and we're still not really close to throttle territory with the air cooler at that performance level so there are reasons to buy each and they primarily come down to what case are you using do you need the top graphics card slot because some of the motherboards with the aqua cooler won't necessarily support the top slot but also thread Ripper has a million PCIe lanes so does that even matter besides it looks unless you have multiple cards those are the things to consider for liquid coolers obviously they are liquid coolers so technically it has a fill port generally speaking the cooler will outlive the usable life of the system anyway but if you're extremely concerned about uptime then air is probably the better way to go that said if you are worried about permeation you can refill this it's really more for their RMA Department than for you but you can make use of it so yeah plenty good for all three of these coolers the only one that we would definitely not recommend actually two that we definitely not recommend would be the 120 millimeter nautical cooler which is just insanely far behind the 140 just by the 144 10 extra dollars is so much better and the ex 62 which represents all ASA tech coolers there's not that good on thread Ripper because the cold plate contact area is very small so that's it for this time as always you know patreon.com slash gamers Nexus I was that directly or stored out gamers nexus net to people shirt like this one or our new stickers which we finally got in so we need to slap it on to the x-box turn it on and watch it melt off because the xbox hits really high idle temperatures as you can see in our previous video or one 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