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good news for the 12 of you who have this and the update of the drivers to nineteen point two point two I think and that's supposed to fix overclocking and a couple of other things so yeah while we're testing overclock and we really might as well see how far we can reasonably push Radeon seven without going to the extremes without going to dice or something so we're gonna try and put a water block on it I think this will fit I'm not sure I don't even know what it's called so we're gonna try and put that on there and see if we get underwater and then overclock this will be part one we will have two different parts of this part one it's just going to be the build up we're gonna take it all apart again try and figure out what water block parts fit maybe put a vrm block on there and cut a DIY a sort of full-coverage block for radeon seven so this will be good for just figuring out how far the card can go under sort of reasonable overclocking and cooling conditions it's not a wide audience for this thing but there is not in sand it's just kind of fun so let's get into it before that this video is brought to you by the gigabyte zi 390 ARS master motherboard which comes equipped with one of the more powerful zi 390 VRMs for heavier overclocks on the new 9th gen Intel CPUs the ARS master is also one of the few motherboards with a really heatsink this generation featuring a mix of high surface area fins and looks oriented cover blocks oh and it's also got updated RGV illumination learn more at the link below we're gonna use the medium mod mat today you can buy this on store documents accessed on net we actually we sold out of these in like 48 hours but you can reserve one for our next round it's going to be like two months probably before those come in they do take a while but if you want to make sure you get one go to store documents accessed on that you can reserve one so we're working on this today on the medium matte on the large match because I need a lot of space for this and I guess we're gonna try and put this thing on it so this is from Alpha cool alpha cool sent us our contact Dave over there a while ago saw us through some of these crazy mod videos and he was like how do you feel about me just sending you a box of random stuff I think he called them bits and bobs and so that's what we went through I was desperate to see if anything fit the 64 by 64 vague a whole space in and we can actually see I think they're roughly the same size she was Vega 56 on the substrate so the whole spacing around this is 64 by 64 and then this is Radeon 7 which is marginally larger on the substrate packaging it does have more HP amah you can see it's got four versus two but the whole space and I think is the same so 64 by 64 let's just measure this to double-check zero this out so I guess I can probably measure this so Center to Center is about 16 that's that's 64 that's within my measurement error of using the calipers so 64 by 6 so it's the same hole spacing as the original Vega 56 and 64 so that's good that means hopefully a product exists that will work with it and this might what is this even called GPX upgrade kit I don't know how old this one is but it doesn't really matter so GPX upgrade kits from alpha cool a question is will it fit so here's why here's why I'm hoping this work this one fortunately has these slidable mounting hardware so this is something that I wish we had more of a lot of like the ASA tech coolers if they have fixed holes that are just drilled through and you pick one and if it doesn't line up there then too bad so we often use the be quiet CLC that would also fit here my problem with that is then we're introducing random hardware I bought from Lowe's and so the mounting pressure is a huge concern where this HBM is some of the most fragile stuff on any components you buy it's it's really easy to crack it I've done it actually with a former small form-factor component that actually I don't know if I can talk about killing that one but but I've done it before and so the way it dies is you just you apply just too much pressure and it will crack internally you'll never see the crack on the surface but it's really obvious when you try and use it because you have memory artifacting so that's a huge concern as long as you're kind of safe fish with the mounting hardware it's fine we've done it before on Titans but this will be better um so it's a bit more complete so I got to take this apart let's do that and then I will speed through that we've already done a teardown previously and we'll try and see what what can fit on here for water cooling so today we're gonna use the iFixit Pro Tech tool kit they are actually running ads with us this month so I'll link their link their ad link down below if you want to check it out that it's not gonna fit in there so this I think this card uses like a TR eight skis a Torx eight or nine and this kit has one somewhere let's see I don't know okay there it is TR 9 so we're gonna throw on a TR 9 remove the backplate we already have a teardown video and this tool kit will get us through all the screws that this particular card has so just kind of speed through it well this is really nice now oh yeah I forgot about my tape so I put painters tape on here that says something to the effect of needs new thermal paste because it does so this card originally uses that that thermal pad hitachi HMO 3 I think it is they're all pad and so it was I mean without it it gets hot and with it it's on an air cooler so we're just gonna replace all that today and this by the way if I could say so myself our decision to do a dual silhouette here is helping a lot because now the card is oriented in the way the card is exactly wearing sin so we can do the back and the front screw tracking pretty easily we're gonna disassemble a 100% of this thing though and maybe figure out how to cool the vrm as well okay so here's the card and quick note here this is the icy diamond graphite thermal pad and one very overrated - terrible on this card do not put this on Radeon seven we I wanted to test a few different thermal pads and see how they all do and against the Hitachi HMO three and I can tell you that we never published the data because it was just it was I don't know it was really simple it was either you use the HMO three and it's fine or you get a much tighter fit than its stock and you can kind of make paste work but using the graphite thermal pad from icy diamond was the worst possible solution and it basically always overheats so we don't recommend that but that was on there for testing that we just did I don't know if we'll publish that data or not okay so time to see the the block fits I guess in this is first amount on one of these things like the ice wolf that they sell it's supposed to sock it into there but we do not have that with us oh nice and there's contact sweet oh man that's pretty cool especially since this is one of the biggest mounting hole spacings there is I think one of the Titans goes a bit bigger but this this is I'm on the top so all right so we've got spacers to protect the PCB we have Springs for tents for equal tension and and caps that'll screw on and I obviously need to put thermal paste in there still oh yeah and all this stuff by the way just from contact cleaner from an earlier project so I think those that looks like it'll work really well we're gonna use thermal grizzly cryo not for the pace this - but link leaks because we've used it kind of an inappropriate ways mostly by emptying it and then refilling it later but it's gonna leak all over the card so this is a cryo knot it's among the best thermal compounds for the type of workload we're doing now if we were going this would still be good for sub-zero I guess but if you're really going like under an Allen to pot then compound choice matters a lot but for the most part they're all pretty much within the same range as long as there's enough and we're gonna put a lot on here I recently learned from if we get the clip I learned from on the screen that would be great it was he the guy said that it's essentially good PC building practice to just always have extra paste on there so I'm just following their guide right now I think if we can get that clip up I think their coverage looked about like this do you I think he used the whole tube maybe you're supposed to use the whole two but I believe that's what he said oh yeah I need some on the cooler as well okay someone's not gonna get that joke so basically that was in reference to the verge who made a terrible video and to be fair of the fins that they did incorrectly too much paste not that they did this on a GPU that would that and poorly but too much paste on a GPU you really doesn't go wrong it'll squish out it always does you can ask there Bauer he has the same approach to this I do the most important thing is to make sure that there's full coverage I did exaggerate here like this is this is pretty this is a bit much but having too much isn't gonna hurt the performance here it will squish out now we we have a whole video on like too much thermal paste and to really get too much to a point where it damages performance you need you to empty literally the entire tube and then it would fail because you would crack the die from all the pressure but in this instance although it is too much it's still fine so a bit exaggerated there on my end because of that video but anyway the thermal compound it just needs to cover everything if you miss any spots on the GPU because you were being sort of too conservative on the application then you can actually cause small parts of the GPU to die that builds lloyd has experience with that as well I think I don't remember it was with HBM or with it with one of the cores but but this will work out go hand tight here to start probably just stopped at hand tight as well is that HBM is very fragile we definitely have contact hopefully it's not too much contact wow man that clearance that is close so take a look at those inductors on this diagram that we have on the mod map which is again on stored at gamers X's net your inductor lines right here it be number six on our diagram this card because it's a bit unique and doesn't have memory modules it's just got HB m and E uses almost as like a horseshoe shape vrm here and so some of the inductors are less than a millimeter away from our cooling block so very close on the clearance it almost doesn't fit okay so that's a good start I'm gonna figure out the vrm we it's powerful enough on this thing that we can just hit it with air and it will be a hundred percent fine we've done that in the past as well but it is more fun to and it is more fun to try and actively cool it it's just not necessary the problem I have with it I have some vrm blocks but my vrm block would probably go here and then we still have vrm over here and her I'm up here so and we're clearly not gonna fit any more blocks up there I think we might leave it alone we might leave this alone and just go with a fan pointed at the MOSFETs that will be more than enough as a reminder MOSFETs can do like one hundred twenty-five hundred fifty degrees Celsius there's a lot of surface area here and the GP will be running cool so we're not gonna have too much sort of heat spread there but especially if it's sub ambient in which case it will start the stuff around it will get a bit cold as well but I think we can stop there for that part oh okay they're calling it ingenious new injection technology which I guess is what this is because that doesn't spin so that's just to guide the flow and let's see okay so I don't think this one includes a pump based on what we're seeing there's no power anywhere first of all and and there's no space either so I think we're going to need an external pump that's fine we have some ek ones we can use and that's just gonna go ahead and be upside down I guess so I need to find a radiator we'll throw some random pump on it and then we'll be good this I'm just trying to make my life easier so because now the problem with the pump and radiator option is it is not portable like I'm gonna have a hell of a time moving it between systems or different rooms or whatever if I do this it's a pump and radiator combo this is one of the Phoenix products and I can just stick quick releases on the other side of the tubes and come up to the block and then it'll be really in good shape so we'll run with this actually instead of the cool stream okay so this is not going to be it'll be a semi open loop rather than a proper open loop but more portable so let's get some tubes on there so here's a random may a box of random liquid cooling parts that still has water in it so we're gonna get one of these on one end and then the male version on the other end there it is so these are just QT C's they they go together like this and they're actually really nice so it's just a button to disconnect and there's like maybe one or two drops that come out when you do that so it's it's pretty easy contain make sure there's no spillage and it would make it easier for me later if we want to get rid of this and replace it with like a Mora and danke tat an ice bucket because then I can still leave all the tubes attached to this we would just be changing one thing so that should work out pretty well there's the water in this one and also oh there's a refill port over here too okay so yeah I'm gonna set it all up and I'll have to add some water once we turn it on let it run for just long enough to get some water through the rest of the loop and then we are going to fill it a bit will leak test it without the card being powered just the pump being powered so if there's leakage won't hurt anything and then we will be will be good for sure so okay I just need a few pieces here change of plan we're going to go with the ek ones instead the rest of my parts will fit better so ek here and then I think this will be long enough for what I'm doing today which is just gonna be mounting this thing on a on a test bench and I'll put the radiator on the shelf above it so we don't really need a whole lot of tube length here have more than we need actually you can already see some of the water starting to come out I probably should not have connected those but we're we're okay because gravity's cool I guess and so is water pressure but you can see water starting to come out over here because we've connected those two so I mean we're good now cuz that's connected as well but obviously if it had run through all the way that would have sucked now I'm just gonna connect to the next quick disconnect so that goes in like this we'll need to secure this as well can you zip ties or I have some clamps from ek that might fit and then we have to connect this to the one with the balloon in it so trick here is pretty simple you just hold it vertically make sure the balloon drains as much as is reasonable and in fact actually take a look at that and so here's your here's your pressure demonstration when I squeeze the balloon we get some movement there however that's just cuz there's some air in the balloon so I'm going to squeeze it till there's nothing in there and then we just hit this button to quick disconnect and we'll have a couple drops probably but not too much there's really no liquid in there which is that's what we want to see so that means everything was contained and there's less risk of any leakage or this isn't really about leakage there's not much risk if you do it right anyway it's more about convenience and being able to easily modify or remove this loop when it's time to get rid of it but we can connect those two it's not particularly pretty but it does work and now I just need to see if hopefully my clamps that I've left will fit if they don't we can use zip ties though and that's also good all right cool so I think everything's secure let's move some water around get it to fill the loop nice we definitely need more water in there but I think we're okay it would be nice to have a funnel now I don't know if I have one here okay so I think this is actually the fill port that does seem correct though too much water capillary actions pretty cool and I think we're gonna be good to go now the tubes are currently on the ground but the tubes are completely fall on each side so that is prepared just clean this off a little more this table is amazing there's our there's our water-cooled Radeon seven card I can't really put it down right now because there's some water but there it is that's what it looks like there is water all the way through so we're good there I need to dry off some of the over flow there when I was filling it and once that's all dried it is ready for leak testing and then for actual benchmark testing so there's our hybrid sort of I mean it's water-cooled Radeon 7 except I'm gonna have to put air on the VR app so it's kind of hybrid I guess but yeah I ended up replacing the fill cap down here on the near the pump because this plastic one is garbage and after a couple tries it's just it's gonna be chewed away let's replace it with the metal one and then I guess the top over here has like a sort of fill port I think maybe it's meant for just burping the air I need to look at the manual for what exactly that's for but filling there is not the correct move so we did have a shot of doing that and the reason that doesn't work is what it does go in and it is connected to the rest of the loop but surrounding the so the housing that surrounds that hole on the screw I didn't notice it actually goes straight through to the radiator like there's no catch on either side of it so if you overfill just a little bit it looks like water's just sitting on the service and you can wipe it off but actually it spills over onto the radiator so the correct one to use is down here near the pump that's that's got the bigger chamber to fill up can fill it here technically but it's really not the right way to do it based on current experience so haven't worked with these phoenixes a lot and never had to refill them but that's the way to do it I guess is down near the pump and then I think this is just more useful for burping the air out but either way I'm pretty much ready to go on tasks you need to leave test it dry some parts of it off and we'll be good to go so that's it for this one as always subscribe to catch part 2 it'll be I don't know won't be too long until we get it out but I subscribe for that you can go to store documents access dotnet and you should to reserve one of our medium mod mats like the one I worked on during this whole video if you want the larger one for a bigger workspace that was underneath and they are currently on backorder because we sold out in like a couple of days for the mediums so they're on backorder if you want to get one for the next round 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