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the AMD r3 1200 CPU teaches much the same lesson as the r7 1700 CPU did about its counterpart buying the cheaper unit in the series and applying a quick overclock instantly saved significantly on cost and those so while offering boasted performance with minimal effort today we're reviewing the AMD rs3 1200 CPU for power gaming performance and production performance with points of notes from the r3 1300 X G 45 60 r5 CPUs and more before that this is brought to you by EVGA s at CLC 280 liquid cooler for CPUs which we previously benchmarked and found to be a high performer given its relative silence the temperature output learn more about this $140 cooler at the link in the description below the r3 1200 CPU is the other one in the line of a and these are three products the 1200 1300 X and that's it for the r3 s beyond that the 1500 1600 600 X and 1400 are a bit unique in the rise in lineup in that they have different core and thread counts depending on which one you're looking at so the 1200 and 1300 X are more similar to the r7 series where you have the same core specs 8 cores 16 threads for everything and all that really changes is the frequency out of the box and then after that point you can basically just rely on overclocking to get as close as possible to the higher-end SKUs if not beyond them depending on how lucky you get with the CPU buy so the 1200 mirrors that experience of the r7 s where the 1300 X makes a whole lot less sense if you're willing to overclock not everyone's willing to overclock of course and so there's reason for the 1300 to exist it just for our audience we really would encourage the extra couple minutes to OC something and then spend 20 less bucks in this case but we need to test it to see how it does before even talking about overclocking and that value add from the OC so the 1200 is a $110 skew 1300 X $130 SKU and then after that point you start getting into the r5 series where we previously recommended the r5 1600 X in our editors choice lineup as the best CPU in that price category meaning we would recommend it over the i-5 the low-end is still kind of held by the G 4564 an ultra cheap very budget oriented option and in our TV bottlenecks housing on that CB we found it scales quite well up to a GTX 1060 or rx 580 type of GPU but now in the middle of the pack we're looking at our 3s the 1,200 shifts 4 cores 4 threads 2.1 gigahertz base and 3.4 gigahertz boost and then beyond that we really just need to test it to see how it does so we're starting with gaming for this one moving into blender and premiere testing next following up with power testing on the conclusion as always click the link in the description below for the full article which contains all the testing methods and extra charts that won't be present in this video including extra synthetic workloads you can find all that in the full article on gamers necklace dotnet starting with total war Warhammer with high settings the r3 1200 CPU performs at 109 FPS average is 1% lows at 65 point eight and jo-ann's on glows at 59 fps this pie is the r3 1200 was the night unattainable but highly desirable penny mg 45 60 which may as well be a processor of myth at this point given its unattainable status however this has gotten a bit better in the recent days the G 4600 is that leaves more available than the 45 60 has been the 45 60 though runs at roughly the same frame rate across the board is the numbers that were entered prior to the latest Total War updates so you can expect a slight uptick in performance regardless this gives us an accurate depiction of how both CPUs perform relative to one another unlike the G 45 60 however the 1200 overclocks with a 3.9 gigahertz OC we jump to 127 FPS average on the r3 1200 for an improvement of 15.7% over the stock 1200 CPU this also puts us pretty damn close to the 1300 X when it was over to 4.1 gigahertz at 129 FPS average and that difference ultimately comes down to frequency they're both three point nine or four point one it would be identical in performance our 1200 got stuck at 3.9 gigahertz but just like the our 70 P is equal clocks would provide equal performance here this makes the r3 1200 a much better value for anyone willing to overclock as you save $20 right away and can achieve the same performance once clocked higher the Intel i3 7300 C view is still sold for around $150 though we've heard rumors of drops lately and so it's a poor value compared to the $110 r3 1200 overclocked CPU which performs effectively identically at 3.9 gigahertz and $40 cheaper for an overclock on a $110 part that's good performance and it's just interesting that it happens to eat away at AMD's own line up the r3 1300 ex making the 1200 a much more exciting launch than 1300 ex was in battlefield 1 the 1200 stock CPU performs about 8.4 percent slower than the 1300 X on both our stock at 101 FPS average versus 110 FPS average but overclocking again serves as a great equalizer of AMD parts the 1200 overclock the 2.9 gigahertz runs an average FPS of 1 15.5 effectively identical to the average FPS of the 1300 X which is 116 at 4.1 gigahertz for comparison our D 45 60 operates between the stock and overclocked are three 1200 entries at 112 FPS average with the r5 CPUs performing markedly better at 126 average minimally or 136 average for the overclocked 1600 X that previously won our editors choice award in watchdogs to the and the r3 1200 stock C Huber forms around where the overclocked phenom 2 X 610 on ET does and behind the r3 1300 x stock by about 9% overclocking the r3 1200 boost us to 53 FPS average placing the 1200 OC a step beyond the Intel Pentium G 45 60 and a step below the Intel i3 6300 and the AMD r3 1300 excess CPU ashes of the singularity positions the RC 1200 stock CD about equal within valves 20 mg 45 60 but otherwise predictably at the bottom of our current gen listings overclocking bolsters performance significantly however jumping frame rate by 22.1% which allows the CPU to tie the Sony 300 and follow the 1300 X overclocked CPU for ashes escalation Metro and GTA 5 results check the article below but we'll move on to blender and premiere next blender wasn't stable with our 3.9 gigahertz overclock so we stepped down to 2.8 for this test the r3 1200 stocks Evo completes the scene rounder in 102 minutes so it takes 14 percent longer than the stock 1300 act and overclocking gets the CPU down to 87 it's about tied with the 1,300 X because we're down to just 4 cores 4 threads on these are 3 CPUs the volunteer isn't exciting it's not bad as stated in our 1,300 extra view yesterday but it's also just not that interesting if rendering really is of interest for you and if using the CPU for rendering is on the agenda more than infrequent intervals we would recommend strongly the r5 1500 X or 1600 for purchase the cost is higher hence not recommending a higher end part like ni nines in the extreme but the render times are haves within our 5 1,600 class CPU especially ones overclocking it's a higher territory that's a major savings in time for anyone rendering even in light freelance capacities and that time will pay off premiere is more of the same the r3 1200 stock CPU takes 198 minutes to complete the render overclocked 1300 X which is right where the 1200 would perform when overclocked to completes the round in 156 minutes compared to the r5 CPUs in the 80 to 130 minute range this is significantly slower our three CPUs really aren't meant for these tasks and again direct line to bump up and tearing if rendering on the CPUs in the plans most of our from your workloads would accelerate fine on GPUs though so it just depends on what you're doing moving on the power testing next as stated in our r3 at 1300 X review power consumption at the EPS 12-volt rails is still brand new testing for us and so we are no longer testing at the wall is a different that means that we get a more accurate measurement of what the CPU is actually doing rather than what the whole system is doing bear with us though while we add more CPUs to these presently sparse charts idle at the Windows 10 desktop the r3 1200 is presently our lowest power consumption CPU at 2.5 watts idle consumption followed by both the 1300 X and 1700 CPUs overclocking the r3 1200 3.9 gigahertz with the 0.1 volt offset gets us to 9.8 watts idle followed by the 1300 X at 4 gigahertz using a real-world blender animation project for the next test we get a glimpse at power consumption under a 100 percent rendering load scenario the r3 1200 CPU consumes 28 watts of power via EPS 12-volt cables when rendering at stock settings placing at about 32 percent lower than the r3 30 node X in actual render performance as we just saw a moment ago the difference is a 13% time reduction with the 1300 x over log in both pushes to 46 watts on the r3 152 on the 3100 X both reasonably low power consumption for a part of this class but obviously boosted with the OSI the difference between them is largely that X of 200 megahertz or 100 megahertz depending on the OCC lien breed CPU this is a stark contrast from and these old reputation with CPUs the teams of the company has largely resolved its FX era high power and high thermal reputation which of course the to coincide and go hand-in-hand so thermals are reduced in step with power consumption moving knives to fire strikes physics test another real-world scenario we see power consumption at about 27 watts for the are three twelve hundred and forty four watts for the overclocked variant drawing more than the 70 250 K happens in part because of the additional physical Hardware for the four core configuration the architecture is also obviously a bit different the r3 1300 excellent at 38 watt stock and 47 Watts on overclock just like with the our 70 P use overclocking is a great equalizer for AMD's skews total war Warhammer is next the r3 1200 runs the game at 30 watts peaks during the benchmark with the 1300 ex stock CPU at 41.8 watts there were talks variants to draw 49 watts and 54 watts respectively again we're well within reasonable power consumption metrics for parts of these specs finally prime95 28.5 gives a more torturous workload and lands the r3 1200 at 41 watts with the 1300 ex consuming 39 percent more at 57 watts overclocking increases power consumption on the r3 1200 by 48 percent and in at 60 watts and near the r3 1300 x at 64 watts so r3 1200 is in a significantly more advantageous position than the 1300 ex and continues the interesting trend and the as going with its stack just like with the r7 series it seems most wise to purchase the lower tier unit of the r3 cpus as a both for core 4 thread parts unlike the mixed thread are 5 parts and then opted for an overclocked after that over-talking these CPUs is trivial and we strongly encourage the couple-minute venture to push to at least 20 gigahertz on the 1200 performance uplift is noteworthy and matches the 1300 acts equivalently but with a lower price by $20 in this case as for gaming performance that's the interesting position the i5 cpus are already challenged in their value proposition by the r5 CPUs talk about that in our our five reviews the reason to recap all that here so the high fives have been threatened already in their position on the market the i3s have also been threatened but not by AMD by Intel's forty five sixty which is still a good performer albeit somewhat difficult to get a hold of it's still out there and there are counterparts to the forty five sixty that you can get more easily so the IT CPUs have long been cannibalized by Intel's own Pentium series for this launch that makes our threes interesting they further hurt the i3 i5 opposition that is now we've got this mix where our 5s kind of makes sense in the mid-range area i sevens the 7700 K that is make sense my high-end area for gaming if you want 144fps unrestricted or something and then the 1700 does fine as a cheap h EDT part from Andy where we don't know what's going on is below the our 5s until today anyway the G 45 60 still as of today it makes no sense for an ultra budget system where you really just want the cheapest parts you can get throw in a build and run a GPU of reasonable power you go to an RX 570 or a GTX 1060 pretty reasonably with one of those and not really choke your GPU all that much that's still a good part it's still performing well and that hasn't changed the r5 1600 Series CPU is still remain our go-to for the mid-range the r3 is kind of fill the gap between the 45 60 and the our 5s there there in the financial sense at least but the performance isn't as exciting as the r5 CPUs so it's not a bad CPU and saying that something is adequate certainly isn't offensive in and of itself unless there are expectations there that maybe weren't realistic but then again just to emphasize the cv does well in testing one and it's positioned competitively in the market so it's not bad in either of those aspects it somewhat invalidates the 1200 that is the 1300 X just by nature of overclocking but it's not something where we're going to say just go buy this right now because that's kind of reserved for special cpus like the r5 1600 X or 1600 we were really impressed with the performance at the price point and these just aren't that special not bad just want to make that clear saying something isn't the go-to recommendation doesn't mean we're saying if that just means that it's not that exciting so if you think it's more exciting great go buy it it's out there four hundred ten bucks as always you can find more on the article in the description below hopefully these numbers help you figure out make your own decision so that's really the goal of these you tweeted us as always for suggestions on topics or to get quick help at gamers Nexus patreon.com/scishow and I specifically and more in-depth otherwise subscribe for more gamers Nexus at squarespace.com for shirts I'll see 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