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everyone were at the AMD booth now at CES 2019 AMD has had some of the biggest announcements of the show thus far including the card behind me Vega 7 and this is a seven nanometer Vega product that we we have a bit of details on a bit more depth than what was seen in the keynote by AMD's ELISA sous we're gonna be going through that today rise in 3000 series we don't have any product details but we have some top-level stuff that we can go through as well for Andy's showcase at CES 2019 before that this video is brought to you by the gigabyte z3 90 ARS master motherboard which comes equipped with one of the more powerful z3 90 V RMS for heavier overclocks on the new 9th gen intel cpus the ARS master is also one of the few motherboards with a real heatsink this generation featuring a mix of high surface area fins and looks oriented hover blocks oh and it's also got updated RDV illumination learn more at the link below so starting with the card behind me with Vega first of all get you the the release date in the pricing looking like February and $700 for that one performance it's supposed to compete roughly with the 2080 of course trust but verify we'll test it when we get it but generally it's looking like that should be about where it falls and if you look at our benchmark numbers for the recent 2060 you'll see that the 64 card Vega 64 Falls around the 2070 performance 2060 2070 somewhere in there so 2080 seems reasonable as a target for Vega 7 for the spec 60 see use you can compute pretty much everything else from the Cu count so you can get core count and ROPS I thinks 128 Rob's will try and put a table up on the screen for you if you want the hard specs and data for what the card will have internally GCN's not getting any it's not GC on sticks or anything it's still same GC n it's getting some retooling and tuning though and some of that tuning this is new information for you will be how boost functions we don't have specifics on it I asked a few times and all I can tell you is that boost will be retooled so we'll see what that means later as far as the clocks 1450 megahertz is the target base clock boost is TBD peak clock is different from boost so that's like a burst like a temporary spike it can peak to one point or to 1800 megahertz and he converts a gigahertz there's some reason so eight hundred megahertz versus 1450 bass boost TBD it'll be lower than peak and I asked about overclocking via BIOS locks all that stuff as far as we are aware today from the Andy representatives we spoke to today it is our understanding that V BIOS and overclocking capabilities should pretty much mirror Thank You 56 64 that's not counting things like voltage I don't have voltage numbers for you theoretically one would guess it might be a lower operating voltage at a given clock because moving the seven nanometer new process but we don't have a hard number for you V BIOS will as I noted a not be locked though this card speaking of E virus does not have a switch on it I think there might be a V bio switch on the final reference card we'll see but there's not one here today TDP they're looking at probably three hundred Watts not final it does have two 8-pin connectors AMD has some room to go up or down depending on how they feel competitively they could raise that a bit if they feel like it makes more sense to get some some more frequency as opposed to lower power consumption so TDP is not finalized we probably round 300 watts and that'll power the base and boost I asked about the the rate the voltage regulator module we don't have details yet on the reference designs BRM mosfet control or anything like that the cooler we have information on because in front of me and i can look at it and the cooler the backplate looks like exactly the same as the previous Vega back plates the assembly is has a distinct lack of screws if you look at the previous and video coverage we had and probably a lack of glue so that's a good thing but triple fan axial cooler which is interesting it is a normal to slot and I think yes to slot it's a bit taller though for the PCB than the than the actual expansion slot so we'll see where that goes with the custom PCBs later memory 16 gigabytes HP m2hb m2 is very expensive when we talked about Vega previously we saw somewhere around $150 at the time of talking about it that price has fluctuated so I 150 bucks to make a Vega 56 or 64 card with the HBM to that it had on it at the time so that contributes to the $700 price point of the Vega 7 card that we're looking at here today so that gives you the basics I there are some targeted architecture changes I asked for specific specifics we did not get any yet so a targeted arc change is the memory controller doubles in size but I other than that power management things like that may change we'll find out closer to launch I suppose for other stuff anti-aliasing should be really interesting for testing so the charts that were shown were often we were told they were max settings for the internal testing that AMD did all we heard was max settings what it really meant was maximum preset so for Rainbow six siege we don't know I someone can validate for me in the comments but maximum preset anti-aliasing I'm not sure what that set to but in theory Vegas 7 should be good with anti-aliasing because heavily memory bandwidth intensive so that is a good targeted test that we'll be looking at when we got the card in our hands if you're into anti-aliasing at high numbers this might be an interesting one to look at and other than that hbm's writing out 2 gigabits per second you can calculate the rest of the the numbers from there we'll have a table for you voltage TD TV to be determined as I said and then I that covers that and the video card on the CPU side so everything that was discussed at the next horizon event is still valid there's no new information architectural yun rise in 3000 series I have some information on how the PCIe and motherboard situation is going to work and this is not official from AMD a lot of this so in speaking with some of our sources here at the show who work at the hardware companies the manufacturers we've learned that x5 70 is the biggest point of holdups so is AMD going to launch 3000 C's with X 570 or are they going to launch earlier and just you have X 470 to work with so that's the biggest point of consideration for Andi right now for the Rison 3000 series launch and the asain mid mid year for launch we've heard around June from the the partners but that could change as the specs get finalized X 570 though as I said biggest point of holdup and then PCIe gen 4 is the next biggest thing to talk about for 3000 series so PCIe gen 4 will be on the new Rison 3000 series processors now technically speaking you're not really going to be exceeding bandwidth of Gen 3 presently with even a Titan RT X but there is an argument for future use cases and there's an argument for threaded per epoch use cases where you're using a lot more GPUs and if Brij then that could be potentially useful so gen4 from a bandwidth standpoint not the most important but it is important to start doing it sooner rather than later so X 570 will have Gen 4 it'll be going through the CPU the chipset as we understand it will be gen 3 and Gen 2 for general-purpose Gen 4 will not be on the chipset but also not important for the chipset and also PC is IG will likely be adopting AMD as the reference platform for PCIe 4 which is an important move for AMD and then the the biggest challenge here with existing x4 70 boards is going to be anything muxing or dealing with like a pecs or PL x chip for example because with pecs and PL x or muc sirs for PCIe lanes you're dealing with splitting the lanes and sort of faking an x 16 or x8 set up for the PCIe lanes so in those instances the MUX errs and the PAX chips would have to be updated for the X 5 X 4 so many boards if motherboard vendors want to go backwards and do that to support PCI you Jun 4 so if you're dealing with anything that does pecks MOX you know of PCIe lanes you could run into issues with PCIe Jun 4 coming out of the cpu going into one of those and then not being up to spec so other than that x4 70 will work with 3000 series it'll have to be flashed but other than that it's it's 4 PCIe if you're using a Gen 3 card which is all of them then you just drop it into the x4 70 board the CPU will down step to Gen 3 so it's not like there's any compatibility concern there which is good the biggest concern is just going to be the end points on the PCIe electrically so physically nothing should really change on the motherboard for the most part but that all be validated as they launch so I think that that should get you some new information on the boards that you might not have had previously it's just a question of does XYZ Sony come out with three thousand threes and I would hope the answer is yes because it's better for the market if they do that so oh and also export 7e could theoretically be updated for Gen 4 support it's just a matter of if the board vendors do it and they might have some validation concerns so that covers it that's the and e presence at CES 2019 thank you for watching as always you can subscribe for more coverage of the show and you go to store dock cameras next to help us out directly or patreon.com slash gamers Nexus I'll see you all next time