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Ask GN 19: 1080 Ti Rumors, OC vs. Lifespan, More

2016-06-09
hey runner back for another episode of ask GN and as always that leave your comments below for questions for next week's episode we skipped last week because I was in Taipei Taiwan with Keegan who's one of our camera operators and we were working on Computex there's a big show if you have questions from Computex leave them in this video or just generally about the trip factories all that stuff and I'll try to get to it but this video is brought to you by enter Max and their new lick max giant open-loop liquid cooling solution from Computex let's get into this thing so the first question is from last week's ask GN and it is from Topanga win' I don't know if tap Angwin represents the Linux community or not but certainly a good fit the penguin says what do you think about the 1080 TI rumors and what strategy do you think will NVIDIA follow when deciding when to release it so I guess in terms of the timeline and things like that so first of all the GTX 1080 has had a lot of fanfare behind it I went to one of the Nvidia sort of low-key breakfasts events at type at the Computex show and you may have seen it streamed where Jensen just sort of approached press about the 1080 and all the previous update basically recapped everything the last few months so I didn't get great information out of that event it was just a recap but the point of bringing it up is because they again pushed the 1080 very hard and I think NVIDIA is gonna remain focused on the GTX 1080 for the time being I have hair in my mouth they're pushing the 1080 so much it's a big car they don't have a lot of competition at the high end right now the fury X is really not there's more of a science experiment with HP M not a competitor to the 1080 and because of that I think the 1080 Ti is still good ways hour I mean at least end of year if then it might be I would suspect very late to quarter four or next year in the first half that would be kind of my suspicion now that said there's no official release or information about a 1080 Ti ever been planned to exist so it might not even happen at this point we don't really know but the 1080 Ti it's unknown right now for sure if it'll have HBM HP up to or g5x AKA gddr5 X I would certainly suspect either HP m2 or g5x but I'm not sure which I will say the HBM to yields are still really bad right now and that would be part of the reason to delay but the other one is just because they've got a good grip at the high end of the market and it wouldn't really make a lot of sense for that and for NVIDIA that is to compete with themselves right now so in terms of rumors on the release date that would be my guess it's quarter for the first half of next year in terms of rumors on specs I don't really have any thoughts right now because none of the rumors are there's no reason for them to really be believed the one way or the other we've seen reports of HBM - we've seen reports of g5x seeing that it might be on a GP 102 die which is certainly possible we don't know anything about it yet officially so I'm not really gonna speculate on the specifications at this time next question is from Al Ahly nuts Allen he says hey man love the channel my question is if you have a closed window panel will it be more silent instead of a an open window one talking about PC case by the way uh-huh so I think the question is if you have a windowed side panel on your case versus a steal side panel with no window I think that's the question but they could correct me if it's not if that is the question no any case with a window will by nature of having a window be louder at least you might say that I mean things like acrylic and sort of plastic windows that you find in most cases tempered glass I'm not sure what the acoustic properties of that are actually that's still kind of new to our lab it's a big trend this year so I'll be testing it but in terms of what you find on most cases anything that's acrylic or plastic is gonna leak a lot more noise than a giant piece of steel with foam padding on it or something like that and not every case has foam padding but it's pretty popular if you look at for example the dark bass 900 which was just announced last week at Computex that's got two options one is tempered glass for $250 and some other features or you get the steel panel for two huh without the other features but basically tempered glass versus steel the steel panel has a sort of foam absorbing sound absorbing material and that I guess damping is the correct word in this instance that would definitely keep more of the sound inside the case and been prevented from getting to your ears then a glass or acrylic panel would so I think that answers the question pretty thoroughly but let me know if not Tec Jose populism says this was on I think this was in response to our sort of very very casual does the GTX 1080 bottleneck on CPUs question from last video so tech chairs populism says going off of what someone said on this common thread but emphasizing do and will CPUs bottleneck the 1080 more less or the same on lower resolutions like 1080p vs. 1440 or 2160 being 4k in that instance well CPUs be more or less important as we go up to 4k or they just as important rendering frames so a couple things to this question first of all anytime you lower resolution you are reducing strain on the GPU it doesn't matter the API just by nature of pushing fewer pixels the GPU strain is lower so in those instances I depending on what is sort of meant by the phrase CV bottleneck because a couple different means but depending on what's meant certainly at 1080p you would be more likely to see a 1080 at ten seventy at a nine eighty i hitting the same framerate then at high resolutions and when they do hit the same framerate like that it means that there's a bottleneck either on the software side so some games may choke on CPU threads or on the hardware side where the CPU is not keeping up with what the GPU demands and in either that may be draw calls or something like that dx11 but in either instance if you're hitting sort of an average FPS wall at 1080p that would be something you could partially improve with the CPU if you overclock order get a different CPU or whatever and that does depend a bit on the game now at fourteen forty and twenty one sixty or 4k as it is more commonly known it depends a bit on the API and all these resolutions the CPU does work with every frame it renders so the higher your FPS the more work the CPU is going to be doing just by nature of the they think it kind of work in conjunction like that so there's always a good reason to have a CPU kind of answering that part of the question but as you do push more pixels it's more likely that the GPU will become a choke point so I think that answers that one the next question meant Barry Dunne says from previous ask or this is my no this is mine up from the previous previous ask GM so this is from three weeks ago now the question was at around 7:20 you mentioned 1400 1450 megahertz for a 980ti as high to sustain for the long term meaning I said something about those frequencies being a fairly high overclock does that mean keeping my 980ti overclocked around there without touching the voltage at all well shorten its lifespan so overclocking the nature of overclocking there is an inherent risk to shortening the lifespan of your product or to just killing it outright depending on sort of voltage and power and things like that generally anytime you're increasing and I did answer this in a comment so I think we're clear there but anytime you're increasing the power target on GPUs so you'd say go from a hundred percent to 120 percent and then increase the voltage there is a risk that the cards life will be shortened and it is probably going to happen but as I said and I reply to this question in the comments there's really no good data out there because it's really hard to run that test I mean for us to to collect lifespan data on GPUs the impact of overclocking versus non overclock GPU the trouble you run into is you basically you need five to ten benches running the exact same hardware just for parity and then you have to run some of them overclocked and not for several years so there's no good data on that but generally the consensus is any time you increase a voltage and power you are threatening the life of the silicon it's not SPECT for it it probably doesn't like it too much silicon does like heat and actually FinFET process does like voltage to stomach cent which is something we'll talk about in a future review but generally that it that is a threat now if you're keeping your overclock there without touching voltage especially without touching even the power target I really wouldn't worry about it probably the the impact will be not that noticeable and the and the scheme of things you'll likely replace the card before it's relevant but if you're if you're touching the voltage and the power target then yeah it 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