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everyone welcome back to another episode of ask GN as always questions in the comments section below for next video I've seen a few questions in other videos and I have a really hard time keeping track of those so if you post them on this one I'm more likely to see it also this week I'm probably in California for an event when this video goes live but it's only a few days so it's there and back and we'll have some news for you after that pretty shortly after anyway the advertiser for this week so this content this ask GN is brought to you by Thermaltake and their Corp III case which can serve as an ad hoc test bench is wall mountable you can lay it flat or whatever you want really and it now it comes in a TG version or tempered glass which is really to be expected at this point I don't know I don't have them to see an RGB version at CES there so get on that thermal tape because otherwise you're gonna be left behind by the rest of the industry as they move into the age and the era of RGB LEDs first question is from video computer who says hi Wow oh yeah this question hi why does it seem that simple questions get discussed ones that can take a couple minutes of googling I had unanswered question about large HR 22 heatsink making noise that sounds like very quiet coil wine when cursor is moving its 100% certain that heatsink is the source because when I switch to another then there is no sound anymore I'm not sure you didn't didn't find enough info but if anyone feels like the questions aren't advanced enough feel free to leave your own down there because I do look for more detailed or technical topics to talk about and it doesn't help if you just say these aren't these aren't hard enough so leave leave a comment their first real question lunchbox says hey Steve would you guys ever tried deleting CPUs Oh actually I I meant to bring it in for this video I have the kit that lunchbox is talking about I have one of the new rocket deleting kits but yes would you consider dealin cpu specifically with a rocket 88 I know there are others on e 2 who have done it but they're relatively small channels not nearly the same scientific method or consistency in their testing methodology and in regards to the IHS that you talked about last week why aren't I a chest made of copper or other conductive metals they are actually normally made of copper if you if you lap the IHS if you basically sand it down you'll see that a lot of them are copper almost all of them really but the interface between the IHS and the die isn't always great as we talked about last week as for the first part d Lydian is on the radar once I get back from said trip we're gonna be deleting at least a 7700 K and and seeing how it performs without the with liquid metal so I've got some liquid metal I've been working with rocket they seem they seem pretty damn competent so we're working with them to figure out the best approach to it for this particular processor see what kind of results we can expect and you know what test we should be running before and after because once you've deleted it you really you can't go back to the way it was so a lot of testing to do to make sure we have all the data that's necessary but yes it is absolutely on the radar and it is coming up sooner than you might think so once I'm back that's probably one of the first things I'll be working on next question b10 Raine says love the videos thank you my question is regarding CPU coolers my NZXT x41 is beginning to fail I have an X 99 motherboard with 5820k this forces me to use the very top PCI slot which is slightly closer to the CPU than usual for my 980ti extreme I purchased the CM maker air cooler because I wanted similar performance my ex 41 but moving away from a iOS temporarily this cooler is an excellent performer but barely fits between RAM and graphics card and is a bit unnerving is there any risk of the cooler Tower Finn should contact the card back plate I've seen people freak out about it in forums but I've also seen pros never mention it this is a really good question and one that I've run into a few times with be quiet coolers some of theirs have those metal brackets you're talking about where it uses basically a metal hook pretty cheap kind of just brackets that hook into the fan and then you wrap those around and hook into the fins for the heat sink so I've used those and I've had that problem where on some boards particularly for the ones I've worked with they tend to be they tend to not be the X series they tend to be series boards or something like that where the back of the video cards right against it and even in some cases touching and that can be definitely a concern there's a few approaches to this one if there's no backplate then yeah you should be a little careful because you don't want a metal bridge between some kind of circuitry on the backside of the PCB for the video card so don't don't let any any bridges form and some cards on the backside are more complex than others some might have like B Ram convey RM or V Rama actually components on the back including older cards but the Titan X I believe has a lot of that on the backside so yeah be careful of that there the solutions are pretty easy so when I had to do a be quiet cooler of some kind on a system where there was contact between the bracket and the GPU my solution was to just wrapped the metal exposed metal bracket in electrical tape because it's non conductive and that was fine for me now of course make sure you're very careful about this make sure there's no exposed bits anywhere because you don't want a bridge contact between things that can short-circuit and damage something or destroy something but generally something like that is fine because the real electrical tape will not be electrically conductive you can wrap around the metal and if that tape touches the backside of the PCB no problems at all it's really it's not in danger of melting it's not in danger of bridging anything so that should be fine and that would be my solution but yeah it's something to be worried about if it's exposed so if there's a backplate on the card then don't worry about it as long as you're not bridging contacts with anything important and those practice by the way in general make me nervous because I don't like having metal in the system that's not secured by threads but it's normally fine next question ripen Dada says question for Steve hello I built a new system consisting of a 1050 t I only to know that it won't support my good old VGA monitor can I use a passive HDMI to VGA converter or do I need an active converter this is an excellent question and brings up a topic that we covered several years ago it was actually it was one of our big videos for the time and probably still is I think I called it fake cables or something like that and Lifehacker shared it which was great for us so that video is still relevant especially for this question the question I think that we answered then was what happens when you buy one of these VGA to HDMI or DisplayPort in modern day converters does it work because VGA is analog hdmi displayport are digital so you can't just do a straight wire to wire pin out to pin out cable it's not gonna work now there are cases where people say it works and the reason that happens is because some specific laptops their GPUs can do the active conversion for you that's not really common for most systems it's not common as far as I know for desktop GPUs but by and large those cables will do nothing for you other than take your ten dollars and then you're not gonna return it because who wants to send something back for ten bucks and so then they they they get what they wanted I would recommend only buy an active converter cables if you're going from analog to digital unless you know for certain that your device has something that can handle the conversion for you in the device like again some of those laptops but yeah it's it's not gonna work and that's explained in the video but basically pin out to pin out you need something in there to translate the signal so that it actually will will appear and recently I did have to convert one of our VGA monitors normal it's four years it's been VGA to DVI and I still use it because 1280 by 1024 it's perfectly fine for thermal testing it does we don't care about resolution on that we're just running some synthetic burn ins so it's great because it's a small display and it's cheap and it's never needed anywhere else but to convert it I had to buy an HDMI or a VGA to DisplayPort converter and I was worried about it but did find some that work and if I remember I'll put a link to that in the description below if you want to buy one that I know for sure on our systems works and converts the signal just fine without issue so that should help out and the reason I did that by the way a DVI on the video cards we were working with didn't have the right pen set so that was no good just doing the VGA to DVI next question slick Rx says Jen I'm running an Asus duel 1070 video card and when benchmarking it and overclocking it I've noticed it runs out of power before it gets unstable only a single there's only a single six pin connector is it possible to plug the GPU cooler pants into a separate video card or way into a separate controller so it can free up more power for the core I heard somewhere that the video card might notice the open circuit and throttle or do some other things it's wondering if that's true I am Not sure on the cards we've worked with I've not seen that and we've done that a lot I suppose it's it's possible that maybe even likely that some of these cards ACS I haven't worked with for a while so keep that in mind but with the other cards I've worked with generally if we plug in the fans of something else it hasn't been an issue now there could be a problem if the fan is looking for if the video card is looking for a fan says what the heck there's no fan and then just doesn't clock up because it's concerned about overheating sure and there might be a workaround for that through precision or some other software generally have not seen that problem and again we've done these types of things with the 1080s especially from EVGA and MSI well maybe just EVGA for this this particular setup but where I've completely removed any connection to the PCB of the cooling apparatus and connected it straight into something that goes into the motherboard instead and that was for the same reason you wanted I wanted extra power now ultimately we found in that scenario that it didn't matter it was an extra you're talking a couple watts and if you're really really desperate I suppose that would be a place to look but I would not expect a lot out of it you might not even really get an increase in your clock rate for that extra power so that is a project that may be you may be better off doing something else instead of rewiring the thin to the motherboard and that's kind of a pain anyway because then you've got more cables hanging out of there but perhaps consider some of these cards do you have special v bios you can download if you want to start getting into into territory where you void warranties you get a custom view bios and some of them do enable more power to be pulled through the card and ideally you grab one that's tested and validated by at least a few common sirs but and then overclock responsibly of course but that's where I would start instead is look for a custom v bios and I guess that's mostly it you could you put under liquid and reduce your power leakage and that might help to but that's really starting to split hairs killin rudder says gamers Nexus you need to you need to talk about the price of ddr4 Ram doubling in price because I cannot find out why well seen as we we need to talk about this we are contractually obligated by keel and rudder to talk about this yes DRAM pricing in general for flash-based storage or otherwise because they're generally made in the same place is going up so as discussed previously SSD prices have been they haven't done huge hikes yet but they should and that's because of supply limitations demands really high flash modules are used in everything phones tablets laptops basically any current Mac is shipping all flash storage and a lot of the smaller PCs and things like that razors blades all that stuff it's all going flash these days and flash is also more popular and desktops so there's a shortage and that means that prices will be going up now that should be resolved by 2018 I don't know if that's what part of 2018 but that's what it's looked like for a resolution and for the supply to kind of catch up but RAM normally when one goes up RAM or SSDs in price the other does too and that's because they're pretty much they're made in the same facilities so we didn't ask some t lion tour with Kingston several years ago with those of you who are new to the channel new relative to this video which probably be 95% of you that tour might be worth looking at because the SMT lines service mount technology they have rows and rows of these systems actually we talked about it with the gigabytes motherboard how a motherboards and video cards are made as well when we went to Taiwan last year but service mount machines there's pic in place there's other devices and they put the small SMD the small components on the PCBs and it's largely automated not entirely but the the RAM the video cars the SSDs they can all go through these same machines even motherboards there's some special parameters from other boards they are larger but if you go to Kingston's fountain vallye location they actually have an SMT line in the u.s. still they're one of the only people who still have one in the US it's not an active use as much these days as it used to be definitely has spun down a bit but in that facility you go in one day it could be Ram the next date could be SSDs so the point of saying that is because the same machines are used to make the two products generally their prices correlate with one another when they're increasing or decreasing just based again on supply or if a facility has caught on fire like happened a few years to cow that obviously impacts price as well when someone's spun down a facility or is building a new one last question John STF 72 says I'm surprised you're not sponsored by l'oréal because you deserve it well John and anyone else you can email them and suggest that they come over here and sponsor us because I would be willing to take their money because a shampoo sponsor really doesn't interfere with hardware there's no bias there so it's pretty much perfect thank you for watching as always it questions in the comment section below if you have a more advanced question please feel free to leave it I will do my best to answer I sometimes I don't know the answer pretty often actually and I have to go look it up 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