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says question for ass PN does AMD intend to do something similar to rise in refresh to Vega products I mean to go on lower lithography in order to get better performance and less power-hungry is it possible for them to do that it's certainly possible whether they intend to I'm not sure what I can tell you is that for a while now there's been a small er Vega product planned I don't know what's happened to it I don't know what when or if it's supposed to come the market I do know and we've revealed this in a news video that Andy's supposed to apparently be using nine gigabit per second memory for some kind of video card product in the future towards under beer I don't know what that's gonna be all I know is that it's using that kind of memory in theory so I don't know that's me a Vega product or a refresh of Polaris or what what I do know again is that there's a sort of shrunken down version of Vega that was supposed to come to bead hasn't happened yet other than on things like this Intel nook which is sort of Polaris anyway so I do not know I would suggest that towards the end of the year there should be something from and the the graphics card Department I just I'm not positive what it's gonna be my guess is on eventually there there'll be some kind of either a lower tier Vega or a refresh because they can still get some money out of this line I mean it's not been around that long we turn my GN GN award the have not been around that long and they were kind of stunted in sales by the memory prices getting jacked up like crazy so I would expect it'd be some kind of refresh just to get some more ROI out of that architecture but we'll see next one this kind of related Thompson says wired ear and price is still so high and continuing to grow I understand there is a higher demand now but if you look at any retailer there's plenty of stock available GPU prices are crazy at the moment because stock is very low I can't buy certain cards on most websites but DRAM is available everywhere and still inflated so I have some some insight for this actually I spoke to a person recently about all this kind of stuff and one of the things I learned that I did not know is that server memory I can have margins as big as 60% so this is what I learned recently so when they sell to enterprise and server companies their memory they are allocating an amount of the wafer this is actually really interesting to the company that bought it so you've got a wafer it's a big circle like that and the wafer is sliced from a silicon crystal and that wafer which is just a circle kind of cross-section of the crystal that wafer is diced into dyes sometimes people call them dice plural so the dyes that come out you get for one wafer out of a large memory supplier there are three of them micron Samsung Samsung and hynix out of one of them you can typically get about 1,500 memory chips per wafer if we're talking gddr5 for example or similar size chips or ddr4 also and so parts that wafer or higher quality real estate than others so for server & enterprise customers the company that connects our Sam Center micron will sell the center of the wafer to those enterprise customers at a higher price per die and then the the sort of outer edges of it where you might have from what I've been told some artifacts of lithography I guess I don't know exactly how it works but apparently there's some artifact in towards thee as you work away to the outer edges of the wafer where the silicon quality can go down to a point where it might fail validation for enterprise but not for desktop consumer they'll pull those and save them for a lower value product like desktop memory so what I learned recently is that desktop had a prized memory guess some 60% margins why would you sell - I said desktop Enterprise Server is what I meant why would you tell a desktop if your enterprise and server has 60% of margins that's kind of where it is and so these people tell us we're making more money than ever the memory manufacturers like well I'm not gonna name people but the folks you would buy a memory stick from meaning not the person who makes the memory module or the memory die but the person who puts the die on a stick and sells it to us those people have told me that they're not making a ton of money because they're getting charged by the suppliers and obviously if they say you know what we don't like that price we're taking our business elsewhere they've got basically one other option sometimes - so what are you gonna do you you don't have a lot of negotiating power if you're someone like one of the memory stick makers that we all buy from and like I said enterprise is where the margins are so no one's really focusing on desktop and then they've got phone companies like Apple and Samsung who buy up huge amounts of wafers for their upcoming phone launches and they're willing to bid high on them because it's a high-value product and they're gonna sell millions and millions of them so it's tough it's tough to be an enthusiast right now when our dollar is valued less because the we'll get fewer of them for the same quantity of dyes than they will if they sell them to someone else I I can't blame the memory suppliers in that they're trying to make the most money for the products look at their stock charts every prices are up somehow that correlates with their stock charts I wonder how that happens so there is from from what I understand there's really no reason for these people to fight for you to have lower prices because the the longer this shortage goes on whether it's partially artificial or not the more money they make they got more investment coming in because it looks like everything looks great for the supplier they're the king of the market right now so your question why are they still so high even though there's inventory it's because the retailers are paying a lot the people who make the memory stick or paying a lot and the person who's getting all that money it's it's not really ultimately the retailer or the memory maker in terms of like the stick maker it's the actual memory supplier who makes all that money and there's not a lot we can do about it you know China there that I forget the name of it but China has got a group that investigates price-fixing and trade legal issues and memory suppliers are being actively investigated for price-fixing in China at least so we'll see if that goes anywhere but I'll have more on this topic eventually there's a lot that I picked up recently from the people I've been speaking with we were exposed to a lot of people at memory suppliers it's been a great educational experience and I need to just kind of compile it all into one video and talk about it next one supa you previously mentioned that there's no tolerance for failing to spread their own tastes across the entire die of a GPU when attaching an aftermarket cooler with this in mind how often should throne face be replaced to ensure small spots such as edges and corners don't dry out and results in a dead GPU I don't think you have to worry about that too much I don't think you have to worry about a GPU dying because adequate thrown paste spread is getting dry I would not stress about that that said it's gonna depend on the paste so stock paste is almost universally not that great and if you feel like taking your cart apart it's really not bad to just replace it when you get it because chances are stuff you can buy is gonna be better as far as letting that remain stock and replacing it eventually there's not I don't know I like just kind of keep an eye on temperatures there's no hard rule there's no rule that says paste dries up after a year you should replace it then it's gonna depend on your use it's gonna depend on what the manufacturer used and I would just say if you really want to be diligent more so than 90% of the market if you want to be in that top percentile of people who really pays attention Dov like kinda like someone who pays a lot of attention to their car and maintains their own cars anything with the computers I would recommend running a very controlled thermal test when you first build the system and when I say very controlled light I don't mean it doesn't have to be the level of control we do all you need to do is know what application you use to test it and use one piece of software to test it put the system under a known workload that you can replicate later and run that test maybe three times and average your data for those three test passes today if you really want to be diligent about it you can take a thermometer ideally in the local room otherwise the thermostats in okay baseline take a number down average your data and hopefully at average hopefully like each pass is pretty close to the next within a degree or so if so you have good data set it aside run that same test in a year see how it compares in a year and then from there you can make a judgment call most people don't do that and I would say just keep on an eye on your temperatures if it starts looking higher even if you don't have hard numbers to reference then replace it a Sutekh you mentioned like the crack in g 12 or something a psychic actually makes or buys really good paste for the stock paste on their closed-loop liquid coolers I wouldn't bother replacing that we've messed around with it and even cryo is not significantly better now the theta is different - ultimately with pastes is not really about temperature and thermal performance is about aging and endurance and it's hard to get data for that because it takes a long time to test it obviously so you're really just looking out for thermals over time which you're just gonna have to check occasionally and see when it's it's decaying in performance but cryo has got its good endurance from what we've tested they are obviously an advertiser of ours right now however there's a reason I allow them to be an advertiser it's because they actually do have good endurance and then the stock ace attack pace we found to have good endurance as well so if you have a CLC you can just keep using that you'll probably fine next question ghost pilot says there seems to be a gulf between impressive hardware specs on gigabyte boards and they're relatively mediocre software behind the times bios arrangement is this a criticism they are aware of and are they taking steps to rectify this is a great question because this kind of gets into behind the scenes industry stuff gigabyte it's very aware of it they actually the gigabyte has so this whole industry comes down to a few things comes down to the people that you work with in the industry being us for the most part it comes down to your relationship with them and then how much they care about their product how much they they kind of work with their team internally to improve that product gigabyte is has some of the most proactive staff in terms of trying to collect our feedback so we've got copy techs coming up end of May early June that's in Taiwan every year gigabyte I know is planning to speak with us and probably some others on our thoughts on where their BIOS is weak and could use improvement and so I would say yes they they specifically are seeking to improve their BIOS their hardware it's gotten really good on some of these boards the gaming seven especially and their BIOS is good enough for most people but it can be improved a lot so we'll be talking with them I'm sure they're talking to some extreme overclockers who are gonna be more qualified for than I am for statements on the high end or seaside but from a usability standpoint from missing features that I use that I'd like to see standpoint I can provide some feedback there others probably provide feedback see how they're very aware of it and they are taking steps to improve which I love seeing and that comes down to the individuals at the companies because a lot of the time some of the companies we work with you can give them feedback and you just kind of feel like it's never gonna go anywhere so like send an email and you're like okay whatever I tried I did my best I guess we're just gonna knock this point on their product until the end of time because they keep making them like this gigabyte it's actually trying it's just a matter of whether the people we interface with can convince HQ to make the changes necessary to to satisfy us and other people next question Street and by the way I'll just say that's exactly the kind of company we want to work with because if I if I give them a mixed review or I say the hardware's fantastic I really want to see better BIOS and their response to me is you know what let's work together on this that's perfect you can't get better than that in terms of a response because if they can respond and then start working slowly towards that goal that makes everything in the industry better for the consumer if it's like if we say their hardware's great and their BIOS needs work and then their response is to stop sampling us that's a huge problem and there are companies like that too you just can't take an ounce of criticism so I do very much appreciate gigabytes approach next question Street guru why does Rison hit a ceiling for its frequency designer silicon I can only answer this so far my qualifications are not that of a CPU designer with that stated I'm more on the practical testing side so I can tell you what I have observed and what I've observed is that I can't speak English right now observed is that the Verizon to the 2000 series we've noticed that typically we're hitting a thermal wall before anything else so we have we published this that rise in voltage curve it's really interesting data if you haven't seen it and basically we plotted a curve of 100 megahertz increments in frequency versus the required voltage to stabilize that frequency without reference clock changes and it becomes exponential the curve starts going like like that it's it's almost like asymptotes and except in the wrong direction so it's kind of an exponential curve it would be even more of an exponential curve if we could safely keep pushing that but we run out of thermal Headroom so thermal Headroom is the first limiter for for us and then the next one is well I mean really it's it's thermal Headroom and then I guess silicon quality at some point the voltage you can kind of push and push and it's not gonna be deadly to the chip until you're like 1 point 6 volts or something obviously shouldn't run it that high daily but you could push it that high it's just a matter of can you find a cooler that can support it and once you get that high you're talking exotic sub ambient cooling not you can't just put bigger and bigger radiators on ambient and expect that to work you need sub ambient at that point so to answer your question as best as I can the ceiling that we run into immediately like 4.2 gigahertz starts look like thermal and even if the temperatures are still reasonable you have to remember that rising now is boosting similarly two GPUs with GPU boost where it's taking a collection of sensors there are dozens of them of the CPU says what's my temperature and all these locations what's my voltage what's my leakage fee droop all this and then figures out high how high can boost so just like with GPU boost 3 on NVIDIA cards the lower and lower the temperature on rise and the more frequency you can sustain and your leakage will go down too so you can you can do this with with less power output so you even less thermal concern and also with theoretically slightly less voltage requirement so at the end of the day thermal always impacts this stuff pretty heavily even if it's not the primary limiter in terms of frequency area obviously you have some kind of silicon or design differences to I can't speak to those in great detail presently I hope to be able to one day but I need to talk to someone today indeed to educate me on that specifically what I can't say is again thermal is a big one and the most immediate that we should all be concerned about put a good cooler on it that'll give you a bit more Headroom cuz we haven't observed in that vote frequency content we plotted the last few points with a bigger radio with a 360 instead of a 280 did that because on the 280 we were getting instability at say 4.1 4.2 gigahertz whereas of the 360 we could sustain those numbers which shows you there's a thermal impact so thermal is a big one next one choco cake it says in the vrm temperature heatsink video did either gigabyte or asus have a vm temp sensor built in i always wonder how accurate are useful those software readings are i'm not sure if they did honestly i didn't check issues tends to definitely have them built in but it's basically the same theorem on both those board except one the ACS one uses 60 amp power stages instead of 40 but there are 3553 s and 3555 is between the two of them so the sensors tend to be pretty accurate with software you're always gonna have some level of inaccuracy particularly with with the CPU the vrm like the mosfet sensors that you're talking about we've tested those did one on camera with how to kill your motherboard content and our findings have generally been at three times we've tested this now our findings have been with a known over temperature protection point we are within 10 degrees celsius with an external functionally case temperature with a k-type thermocouple so if I stick a thermocouple to the top of the mosfet and it's over temperature protections one DC and I forced it 250 degrees C and it shuts down my thermocouple reading will be about 10 degrees lower than that there was one case what was 15 but we're always 10 to 15 degrees within internal sensors and you you know they're the way you can check if they're accurate is basically over temperature protection if they have it because if you have hardware info telling you this thing's 149 degrees and then it goes up one degree and it shuts down 150 is a pretty nice round number that's probably over temperature protection and the datasheet will confirm that for you so if you can confirm OTP and then trip it which I wouldn't recommend unless you really need to know it's accurate for some reason then you know one you can calibrate it if it's off so you trip at 147 0.5 you can kind of calibrate for that of course keep in mind there's some wait-and-see there too but yeah so they're pretty accurate generally speaking and you can but you can calibrate if not a balanced diet what do you do with old hardware you don't need anymore do you sell it recycle it give it away etc do you keep everything so I've answered this several times of the past years we try to keep as much as we can GPUs CPUs memory things that are small ish like a GP is relatively small things that are small and important to the channel we keep because we do a lot of regression testing so revisiting an old piece of hardware is highly valuable content if I sell everything I can't do that so we keep everything I mean like like everything until physically there's no more space to keep stuff and then have this er making decisions cases are the first to go I can't reasonably keep every case we would run out of space in a month so cases tend to go we keep the we keep cases that are kind of like milestone cases really important ones for one reason or another really bad are really good and then a couple of highly common cases so that we can repopulate the charts when we redo all of our methodology with the best the absolute best the absolute worst and the popular and everything else in between gets cold now as far as where it goes I don't sell them generally speaking every now and then I might sell a case for half MSRP because I'm not trying to make money off of I'm trying to get the out of my house my sell a case to a friend or something that they're building a PC I've kind of saturated that pool of friends they don't need more cases just like I don't so for the last three last two or three years now we've been donating them to the local high school where there's a computer engineering program I can't get a tax write-off Onix I didn't buy them there you know manufacturers give them to us for review so that's unfortunate of course but they're not my house anymore and I'm helping a really cool educational program so it's computer engineering program at the local high school where one of our contractors Patrick stone who helps with CES every year he teaches there and so they just recently outfitted their entire classroom all of his cases were from between 2004 and 2008 at the newest and I gave him like 20 cases and he got all the students to set up like the the classroom computer lab computers on their desks and told them to unbilled it and transplant all the parts into the new ones that I gave them state they have everything from like the Roseville gun near I don't remember that you shouldn't haha from everything from that garbage to your case to like a be quiet dark bass 700 I think is the most reason I gave like $180 case so they've got a bit of everything which was really cool to see because I taught that class as a guest speaker recently and it was fun interacting with it it's cool to see them get the experience of building with stuff that's like complete trash and then super-high on that they can't afford because they're high school students so you see like the appreciation of spending an extra couple dollars and like people understanding and learning because they probably don't know a lot about money at at this age understanding that like okay if I spend 40 I'm not gonna get something good if I spend extra twenty dollars it's a huge increase in value if I spend another $100 on top of that the increase in value starts sort of asymptoting or coming down on a bell curve or something I'm not not bell curve you know what I mean that asymptoting basically so yeah we give a lot of stuff to that school if it's too big for me and I haven't really thrown anything away where's case it gets like sold or given to a friend or something but it's kind of it's kind of a hassle when I when I have a sold stuff and I we don't really do this anymore because it's not worth the time frankly when I have it's a case and a tap MSRP to a friend to get it the hell out of my door so it's we're not trying to prop it off of selling the products is what I really want to emphasize here we have shelves of video card CPUs and RAM for a reason because this business is built on testing those things it's not built on selling them so no we don't sell them unless there's literally no space and it's the big stuff that goes first next question about oh by the way if anyone has like computer charities or something that could also use cases mostly maybe coolers I guess leave a comment below if you know of any especially if they're on the East Coast us and if if the school I give this stuff who runs out of space then it'd be good to have somewhere else to give stuff to that could benefit from it because I mean I can't use it for much after we've tested it we have no room and I can't really get a tax write-off for it anyway so I'd like someone who could use it to have it it's all high-quality generally anyway I'll just note this to addition to that stuff where we give the school products I worked with Ace attack not long ago ace attacks at the time represented we worked with contacted me and basically was like Steve do you need any liquid coolers and I said yes sure we'll take like five take five big ones and he said that doesn't help me at all I was like how many do you need to get rid of he said three hundred or something like that and so the story was all these companies they eventually end up with overstock at some point and if they don't sell it they're spending money for that stuff to sit in a warehouse in the case of base attack I think they were coming out with a new generation that stuff was perfectly good but they basically to throw it out because they were out of they need you no need to bring the new generation and so I worked with him I said well I don't want 300 coolers don't send me a palette of coolers here's what you can do send them the Patrick stone at the school and let him teach the kids about liquid coolers they can tear them down they can install them in systems whatever and so he did that we have some I think stone took a video of them opening it they were all very excited so it's pretty fun to facilitate that that's the kind of thing I want to do more in the future as we grow and gain influence to do that type of thing there's a lot of overstock a lot of product gets thrown away and it's just because it's more expensive for them to keep it but if we can help facilitate stuff like that it's good for everyone next question is from Jordan P who says you commented on the rate racing video that Nvidia's tom peterson had provided feedback on your sea of thieves console benchmarking there's a common that industry contacts will give you feedback will contact you on videos and and that aren't directly tied to one of their products or reviewing a competitor yes check in the audio I'm recording this alone tonight so yeah it is pretty common Tom Peterson is a very sharp guy he basically invented FCAT he more or less created the VR benchmarking tools that that we've used in the past and they're some of the best tools for VR benchmarking right now so we respect his opinion a lot the reason I commented on that is because for our console benchmarking I know that Tom's very invested in frame time testing and so is Scott Watson who's nowaday I'm the informally tech report and I've consulted with both of them about testing methodology for consoles and for PCs of you know what what things we need to look at what terminology should we use can you correct any of these things I've done can you tell me like what would you improve here what do you think we did really well did I get anything absolutely wrong I'll ask for that feedback if I don't ask for it sometimes I'll hear anyway and get some really good advice so yeah Tom mentioned when we were interviewing him for that r-tx stuff you mentioned that he had seen our sea of Thieves content and he liked it he had a couple of ideas found it very interesting that sea of thieves tears which I also found interesting neither of us expected that on a console so that was very unique behavior very strange for games a tear on an xbox one but yeah we actually hear someone frequently about content we make often I will hear what a representative thinks of something we made about one of their competitors more than about their own product and when I say representative you have to remember they don't always speak for their own company right the one they work for they often just speak for themselves just keeping in touch saying like hey I saw your video so recently we had an advertising contact tell us that they saw the vacuum video and they were involved in coordinating that campaign and basically said that they had no hard feelings they thought it was pretty funny so everything gets around at some point yeah I gotta be careful now what I say I'm Annie 99 what temp should I look to keep my CP and GB under 1 overclocked and seeking quite operation I'm playing with the idea of deleting my 87 hard K it's currently under H 100 IV 2 times below 55 but noisier than I want so man if you're under 55 you have plenty of headroom C Intel CPUs are a bit different Intel CPUs will run the same frequency whether you're if it's got a t.j.maxx of a hundred it'll run the same frequency up to 99 it'll do so less efficiently you'll have some power leakage you'll have obviously higher temperatures in kind of a runaway fashion as temperature increases it increases up to a point so you might end up in sort of a runaway scenario but if you keep it under t.j.maxx though it'll run out the speeds you've asked it to so you don't need to be sub five that's very aggressive cooling if you're like everyone's got a different number for what they're happy with with temperature and to some extent it's all like voodoo arcane magic that's based on nothing but there is some science to it for example capacitors fasteners are rated at generally 85 or 105 C and at those ratings they'll have an hour rating like 2.5 thousand hours five thousand ten thousand whatever and then every 10 degree cells as you go over that you have like an order of magnitude loss and lifespan so there's some science to it absolutely but you don't need to be at 55 if if you're at 55 and you're like my fans are just just a little bit annoying I would say drop the speeds like 10% see if you're happy with that noise level if your temperatures are still under 70 still under 80 you're fine going over 80 the only reason the reason it really starts to kind of matter is because you get some heat buildup in that area of the board if you are if you forget to clean out your front end take on the case you forget to clean out the radiator you have a lot less Headroom for that error so the only really main advantage for an average user I'm not talking big overclocks here main advantage to keeping your temperatures lower is is that you have more Headroom if something goes wrong if one of your two fans fails if your front intake gets clogged with dust you've got way more Headroom to lose ground but you've got a lot of room here so I mean just just drop the speeds if you're under 80 that's pretty good temperature you're under 90 it's still fine but yeah everyone's got a different number they like for that TCAPS says when developing the mod mat what was design iteration like while working with a manufacturer a factory in this case you mentioned iterating on materials and color consistency was that prototype in the house with instructions sent to them was it discussed with them they sent samples to you how long our iteration times we talked a bit about this in the what we learned from manufacturing it iteration times be pretty long so to get a sample made you're talking it might take some one week to make it and then they'll ship it you might have customs to deal with that can delay things a lot but it's a couple weeks it's like a really good turnaround time is like two weeks and so you really don't want to do too many samples if you can avoid it but obviously the fewer samples you do the more you're threading that line of like what if something goes wrong it's just like software where if you fix a bug you're worried that you've introduced a new on so when we were doing initial iterations and we send them like you know this is all really great please don't change do not change anything change this one thing though and they might send us a new sample and that one thing's fixed but they also fixed something else that we didn't want them to fix so eventually you get to a point where it's exactly what you want but up until that point you're basically like 90% of what you want and every time that last 10% is something different so it is really frustrating but but we got it worked out it just took a lot of time weeks and weeks so I totally appreciate why product development life cycles are so long now what else was asked to your prototype in the house now we we kind of knew exactly what we wanted and I had materials in mind I had I have experience buying like $100 anti-static mats from industrial suppliers in the US so I knew what I wanted in terms of quality we just had to put together a high-quality print with a high-quality mat and that was actually proved to be difficult we finally found a factory though and we're very happy with it it's a completely custom product it's not like it's not like like if I want to make a keyboard I could go to a thousand keyboard factories and say I want that with that font and those color key caps and that plastic and it kind of be pick and choose pretty good you can absolutely make really custom keyboard put a ton of time into it pour your life into it make something really cool but the point I'm getting at is this was not something that we could point out on a shelf and say I want that because what we got was I want that material and I want you to print a really high-quality print on it and we needed to figure out how to make this something I can afford so yeah in terms of like things we did in house the design was in a house completely I concept today Andrew put it all in software and instructions were sent to them we had to for example we have to pick out like tell them exactly what colors we wanted even though we sent them a digital file they wanted us to specifically name the colors with hex code or a Pantone or something like that just to make sure they understood exactly we wanted so design iteration was not too hard because we do that we control that internally the the hard part or the scary part is if you iterate on or change a design you're kind of scared that they're gonna change more than you've asked them to so once we got it to the state of ten right now we're basically like stop don't touch it leave it alone just make more of them and then I when we get them I personally inspect obviously all the ones I autograph which is actually good because it it makes me look at a lot of the mattes for quality control and we inspect like forty to sixty percent of them but we just got tooling made for it so the the hands-on requirement for that should decrease because there's a lot of work last one nori oh yeah how does it feel to have people willing to pay an extra 20 bucks premium for your signature on your already awesome mod Matt it's it's interesting I mean like I get it because I I've paid for like four albums that are signed by the bands like I have graphed AFI albums and stuff like that so I totally get it I don't really like it's still kind of I guess just like surreal like I don't know I don't not fully caught up with it yet I will say from the standpoint of like provided as a product it's really cool because I Drive 30 minutes each way to distributor I have to unroll the mass we roll them quality control jacket all that stuff it is definitely extra work to sign them but our investment other than my time to drive out there and do that stuff there's no more material investment than the marker so it's nice because it's like it's extra padding for someone who either really wants to support the site and what we do or someone who just is you know as a fan and wants wants that literal hands-on with the mat on it and the extra money goes a long way so I certainly appreciate it and I appreciate why people want autographs because I've wanted autographs from from people I've bought stuff from the past too so I get it but it's like I mean it's a YouTube channel 240,000 whatever subscribers so still getting used to it basically I don't add it up I don't know how to feel about it anyway thanks for questions leave more in the comments section below as always leave me some tech questions if you see good ones up put the hell out of them it's getting really hard for me to find them these days so please up vote your peers if they ask a really good question you want to see an answer to and subscribe for more go to patreon.com/scishow stew get the bonus episode from the last one and as always you get a store doc here--is taxes done that to pick up one of these mod mats actually these things will be on there too so this this one in this one these are really freaking cool I will talk about these more in the future these are 3d laser engraved glass cubes we made with the logo and the reason isn't just to make more merch we're actually gonna be using these for do I want to reveal it right now yeah sure we're going to be using these for rewards basically so when a manufacturer makes like the coolest product at Computex or something like that this is gonna be our here's your best of show award great job you made the best motherboards that we saw this year whatever so it's an award but we're also gonna sell them on the store so anyway there'll be a store I gave us access net if you want to look at them thanks for watching I'll see you all next time check