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finding the best workstation GPU isn't as straightforward as finding the best gaming GPU while games typically scale reliably from one to the next applications can deliver wildly varying performance those gains and losses can be chalked up to architecture drivers and also whether or not we're dealing with a true workstation GPU or a gaming GPU trying to fill in for workstation purposes in this video we're going to be taking a look at current workstation GPU performance across a range of tests and figure out if there's such thing as a champion among them all or in the very least we'll figure out how AMD differs from Nvidia and how the gaming cards different from the workstation counterparts before that this video is brought to you by the gigabyte zi 390 ARS master motherboard which comes equipped with one of the more powerful Z 390 VRMs for heavier overclocks on the new 9th gen intel cpus the ARS master is also one of the few motherboards with a real heatsink this generation featuring a mix of high surface area fins and looks oriented cover blocks oh and it's also got updated RDV illumination learn more at the link below although nvidia quadro r-tx lineup has been available for a few months review samples have been slow to escape the grasp Nvidia and if we had to guess why it's likely due to the fact that few software solutions are available that can take advantage of the features right now that would exclude deep learning test which can benefit from the tensor cores but four optimizations derived from the RT core we're still waiting it seems likely that Kaos groups v-ray is going to be one of the first plugins to hit the market that will support Nvidia's RT X the redshift octane Arnold Renderman and many others have planned support the great thing for those planning to go with a gaming GPU for workstation use is that we're rendering is concerned the performance between gaming and workstation is going to be largely the same where performance can improve and workstation cares' with the viewport performance optimizations ultimately the smoother the viewport the less tedious it is to manipulate a scene across all of the results ahead you'll see that there are many angles to view workstation GPUs from and that there isn't really such thing as one size fits all not like there is on the gaming side there is such thing as an ultimate choice though so if you're not afraid of spending substantially above the gaming equivalents for the best workstation performance there are models vying for your attention to kick things off we'll take a look at viewport performance also known as one of the most important performance metrics of probe is graphics cards it's also some of the most interesting performance as we'll see in a moment because not all applications are built the same and likewise not all optimizations are built the same Nvidia's top-end geforce r-tx 28 ET i wasted little time to start its stuff it pulls comfortably ahead of last gens top dog Titan XP and notably ahead of every Pascal Quadra we have access to insta Quadro r-tx 6,000 and 8,000 have an additional 256 cores those models would undoubtedly top the chart here on the AMD side of the fence both the rx bag is 64 and Radeon Pro WX 8200 perform close to the same which is interesting as the WX 8200 is specs similarly to the Vega 56 not 264 despite AMD strong performance with those GPUs in video becomes a clear winner here especially with this top-end g4 SRT x20 atti the Pascal based na DTI also delivers super strong performance even beating out the last gen quadrille p6000 big gains could be seen with the GeForce r-tx and the 3ds max results but Maya lets the turning architecture take things to the next level it simply dominates the top of this chart far exceeding the performance of the Titan XP yet again the current top entering quadrant would rule this chart if we had them to test but let's just relish the fact that GeForce r-tx has not held back here in any way as for AMD its Radeon Pro WX 8200 managed to swap positions with the technically faster rx Vegas 64 and by a fair margin at 1080p meanwhile the quadrille P 5000 fails to impress against GT X 1080 TI which gains handsomely at both resolutions and delivers excellent performance for its price it could be worth pointing out that while the Vega base WX 8200 outperformed the gaming focus Vega 64 the player space WX 7100 failed to topple the RX 580 the same way it seems Vega has some specific boosts in Maya but Quadro and GeForce on the whole deliver similar performance between them the most interesting viewport performance results always seem to be tied up with top-end CAD design sweets like CATIA while the RT x 28 DTI reigned at the top in the 3ds Max and Maya tests it falls to the middle of the pack here bested by both the Radeon Pro WX 8200 and even the rx Vega 64 Radeon Pro doesn't seem to inherit much of an optimization here although the WX 8200 did manage to best the Vega 64 at 1080p just not at 4k quadrille P 4000 is much more affordable than the RT X xx atti at about half its price yet it delivers for improved performance overall results like these are why it truly pays to know your workload we're literally dealing with the situation here where invidious gaming GPUs have crippled performance but AMD's don't the only reason the Titan X is at the top of the chart is because NVIDIA has carried over specific optimizations to his Titan series and CATIA is clearly one of those CATIA had flip-flopped strings between AMD and NVIDIA and their workstation versus gaming gravis cards but things get shaken up quite a bit with SolidWorks here the last gen Quadro reigned supreme with the gaming cards on both sides of the fence taking a huge hit optimizations are clearly in place for AMD's and invidious workstation graphics cards and in this case that even includes the Titan XP while that Titan XP enjoyed a performance boost with katia over geforce cards they equally suspect quadrille p6000 simply obliterates its performance AMD also delivers super strong performance here too with its Radeon Pro WX 8200 from the best bang for the buck standpoint that card is the most compelling of the bunch and most of the results seen up to this point GPUs have scaled largely as expected but the gaming GPUs once in a while sitting lower on the list Siemens and X gives us our first look at some gaming GPUs getting absolutely murdered with all four of the AMD and NVIDIA gaming cards locked to the bottom interestingly AMD's gaming cards perform a lot better than nvidias here but at this performance level it unfortunately doesn't matter similar to what we saw in SolidWorks the last gen quadrille p6000 delivers explosive performance in s and X though the Titan XP doesn't lag too far behind and it's definitely the most value packed of the two the Radeon Pro WX 8200 again shows strong performance speeding out invidious last gen P 4000 but falling behind the quadrille P 5000 which is clearly enjoying some unparalleled levels of optimization considering it in the W X 8200 are not far apart from the theoretical performance standpoint while the P 4000 delivers great performance for its price the newer W X 8200 from AMD looks to offer some of the best bang for the buck here that's nice to see since the company has been putting in huge effort to bolster its performance in these super important design Suites as with SolidWorks creo is clearly optimize on Quadra more than it is on Radeon Pro since the Quadra P 5000 was able to pull so far ahead of the W X 8200 despite the quadrille P 4000 being a fair bit weaker it performs close to the same as the W X 8200 and meanwhile the top dog Vega our x64 gaming GPU doesn't show its greatest strengths in this test but speaking of strengths and videos GeForce cars have made a return to the top of the chart here with the RT X 20 DTI once again gloating from above it's worth noting that it only just beats out the Titan XP which was actually priced the same what the founders edition r-tx 20 DTI is now at $1,200 ultimately nvidia proves to be the best choice with creo at least if you're fine sticking with a gaming GPU the GTX 1080 Ti delivers great performance for its price even managing to beat out the more expensive quadrille P 5000 at 4k if you thought seeing as a nexus results were interesting get a load of this auto cad set in this suite there is such a strong divided between Nvidia and AMD that the chart is literally split in half between them interestingly the r-tx 28 DTI failed to clinch the top spot but it seems likely that the quadrille r-tx 6000 would do so without issue thanks to its higher core count still there's a point when the performance only improved so much so again the GT X 1080 Ti looks like the most value packed card when even the low B quadrille P mm beats at the W X 8200 it's obvious that AMD is lacking optimization in this application or at least enough of it to make a difference at the company's recent next horizon event autocad was named dropped as an application that gets continual performance enhancements so we hope that the performance outlook changes before long it'd be nice to see a better blend among these results viewport performance is important but so is rendering in fact rendering performance is where you can really feel the hurt if you're using lower end hardware renders that take 10 minutes on top and GPUs could instead take 3 hours and lower end ones you always need to weigh various factors before finally deciding anew next GPU for workstation purchase we're going to start out with blender for a couple of reasons first there is no Nvidia r-tx result here because current builds of the popular open source design suite don't support it we're not just talking about lack of r-tx features support a lack of touring support on the whole the only builds that will run on RTS right now are internal to Nvidia and blender so if you noticed 28 DTI results on planets benchmarking website you can feel rest assured that they didn't come from the community that aside AMD's Radeon rx Vega 64 simply kills it in this test beating out every single other GPU including last gens top-end Titan XP again RTS would very likely beat out the Vegas 64 but from a price standpoint the Vegas 64 delivers truly impressive performance it beats out the 1080 Ti by a lot not just a little because no Quadro RT X card can be found in this chart the most impressive cards here are actually the gaming counterparts not the official workstation equivalents AMD's open source radio and pro render is an excellent option for anyone to test out whether you're a seasoned pro or a newbie trying to get into the ecosystem as cheaply as possible with pro render you could take a completely free tool like blender and the completely free Pro render plug-in and begin the learning journey to create some impressive raytrace scenes Pro render even recently gained heterogeneous CPU and GPU rendering support though it currently only works on AMD zone Radeon Pro cards from a stretched GPU rendering standpoint in videos relentless GeForce r-tx card strikes again I'm guessing that the lack of heterogeneous support and NVIDIA GPU ties in with the reason that the dual Titan XP configuration failed the leap past this single RT X xx atti that result alone as flawed as it might be is still downright impressive nothing else comes close to the RT X xx DTI aside from those dual Titan X P's really there's not too much else to say here except for the fact that GeForce beats Radeon in Radeon pro render how weird is that to say ultimately the more GPU horsepower you have Radeon Pro render will take great advantage of it unfortunately for AMD there exist a bunch of renderers on the market that are tuned exclusively for a Nvidia CUDA API completely ruling out AMD's chance at having some fun it could be that in time those renderers will cave to growing a Radeon Pro market share and broaden support to open CL but it's going to be a real uphill battle for AMD because AMD's cards are locked out of this in the next two tests GeForce r-tx 2080 in 2070 I've been tossed in for good measure redshift is going to gain proper support for NVIDIA is RT core in a future release but even right now RTI's cards deliver very impressive performance with the RT x 2080 surpassing titan XP and the 2080 ti yet again sitting comfortably on top what's interesting here is that the Quadra p6000 fails to beat out the 1080 Ti despite having more cores to help it out memory bandwidth on P 6000 is actually less than it is on the GTX 1080 TI which might play a bit of a role here with v-ray it's important to note that the renderer does support AMD's GPUs with OpenCL but in our testing we've never managed to get a render out of it to look good on Radeon it could be that projects are needed to be built from the ground up and not simply poured it over but even the standalone v-ray benchmark has sporadic performance with AMD's GPUs so Nvidia is really the only choice for v-ray right now as with any render worth its weight in bytes v-ray can take full advantage of multiple GPUs and will deliver massive performance gains as a result unlike SLI or crossfire you don't actually need identical GPUs to take advantage of all to GPU with renderers so if you're thinking of upgrading you don't actual have to get rid of your old card unless your system simply couldn't support two GPUs in videos r-tx again shines here even though the special Artie core features have yet to roll out the RT X 2080 beats at the Titan XP despite being slower in most other tests so it seems likely that NVIDIA has some specific Turing optimizations that do a great job of eking additional performance out of this renderer Oh toys octane is yet another renderer that's going to be gained proper r-tx support at some point soon but even without it in videos RT x cards become the obvious best choice for those looking for top-end performance CRT X xx atti beats out the Titan XP while the RT X 2080 follows not too far behind that the 1080 TI looks to be one of the better value propositions in this chart beating out the new RT x 2070 though technically still costing a bit more meanwhile it's fun to see how a card like the RT x 2070 performs against not just the quadrille p6000 but also the maxwell based m 6000 which is equivalent in specs to the original titan x as many of these tests have proven going with the lower end GPU is not going to deliver an ideal rendering performance kind of like how a shavette isn't going to satisfy like a Corvette to round our test out we're going to finish up with encoding tests involving two popular video editors Adobe's Premiere Pro CC and matresses Vegas Pro looking at these premiere results which involves a real 1080p project in code and also a 4k to 1080p reading code there's really not much of a variation at the top of the charts it seems clear that there was a point when you can have too much GPU horsepower for video editing there's barely a difference between the top card and the one ranked 5 below it what does become clear is that while you can have too much GPU for encoding you can also have too little as evidenced by the bottom AMD Polaris results for straightforward video encoding AMD performs fine but when a full-fledged project is being encoded it seems like there's more to the picture than immediately meets the eye giving Nvidia the ultimate nod overall for the final test we're looking at the popular Vegas editor for MAGIX which enjoyed the release of version 16 a few months ago both of the results seen here represents simpler single falling codes but each have some common filters piled on top to get the GPU to actually show off what it can do these results seem to be all over the place but there's some explanation as to what's going on for the most part the ABC encode scales as expected but we do see some interesting results such as the Titan XP performing pretty much identically to the GTX 1080 Ti the Vegas 64 also performs extremely well sliding in behind only a single GPU the r-tx 28 DTI meanwhile with the h-e-b C codec nvidia strengths become apparent with even the small quadrille p2000 outperforming every single one of the radeon gpus this is an extreme example of where it pays to know your workload because while the Radeon Pro is fine for AVC it falls far behind with a GBC that situation is surely going to improve over time but as with many future performance outlooks we have no idea when it actually will there's quite a bit of data to pour over and as expected it's difficult to find a workstation graphics card that rules them all because quite honestly there isn't one there were cases across our performance look we're either AMD or Nvidia took the lead but it's safe to say that Nvidia gets the performance not overall with its RT X cards dominating most of the tests they touch unfortunately there were no Titan V or quad row RT X results to share but their performance wouldn't be too hard to guess wherever the Titan X P performs extremely well Titan V is likely to perform even better and to that end one of the most important things to bear in mind when choosing a GPU for workstation purposes is whether or not the limited frame buffer of the gaming card will introduce roadblocks you'd have to be building complex scenes to exceed the 12 gigabyte frame buffer of the Titan XP but the need for more GPU memory is only going to increase over time there are other things to take into consideration as well such as the error correction memory although use of that in the probe is market is actually quite rare what's not rare is required certification which is important for enterprise environments that demand the most stable platform possible and not to mention the best support that in things like proper 10-bit color support and applications make options like the workstation car is better than the gaming cards but for some losing those features to gain in performance at a given price is a fair trade-off and that wraps it up for this one if you enjoyed this content you can support gamers Nexus directly on store gamers nexus net and also on our patreon page at patreon.com slash gamers Nexus you can also find more of my work over at the tech age YouTube channel should your appetite for workstation stuffs be as strong as mine thanks for watching and catch you guys again soon