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$440 is but little on the high-end for a luxury case but we're still gonna review it so this is the coolermaster cosmos C's 700 M and it's got pretty much every trend you can imagine it has curved tempered glass which has questionable yield at times but is very cool and it can be pulled off a RGB LEDs of course can't not do that if you're in case manufacturing 2018 it's got four fans and we're gonna be focusing on overall build quality thermal testing and noise testing for the new coolermaster C 700 M which is a reprisal of the cosmos series that they've made for a long time now for high-end builds and home servers before that this video is brought to you by power colors rx 588 gigabyte card which is marked down to $200 with rebate starting September 29th on new egg and that is for the 8 gigabyte model if you're looking for a mid-range video card for gaming on high settings consider power colors 8 gigabyte rx 580 that we linked below the card also comes with three free games including Assassin's Creed Odyssey star control and Strange Brigade while supplies last learn more at the link below we have a lot of information to go through on this case today and a lot of pretty cool b-roll first of all it's large it's very tall it's also have 51 pounds so it's a good test case for our workers comp policy and then we also did tests on thermals it has an extra fan over the C 700p for instance and then the paneling has been changed to now use curves on both sides of the tempered glass rather than the fokker v' in the original c 700p which that by the way that curve is very expensive to do the yields are pretty low on it so it's very much a high-end case it's very much a home server showoff type of case maybe not in the budget of most people in our audience but halo products are still fun to go over because a lot of these things can come down later to cheaper products that are more mainstream now just like the C 700 P the case is invertible so you can flip it all around you can rotate it stuff like that there are extra panels to block off the back if it ends up not being used for i/o it's very customizable it's kind of a pain still to do that customization but we're not really a hundred how to make that process perfect because no matter what you do there gonna be a lot of screws if the goal of the case is to allow literally everything to move so probably not the most user-friendly feature but if you really want to change the orientation of the case you can do it and hopefully you're only doing it one time that's one of the main features of the cosmos line that's started with the c7 or P and other than that it's tempered glass it's a RGB it's got the cosmos sort of handles that they've always had and they're known for and then a decent amount of fans got for stock all 140s and then a lot of room inside for Cale management for video cards and different orientations things like that so enough of that let's get into Patrick's build notes and then the thermals and testing the C 700 P and C 700 M have a few differences from each other first is the front panel which we criticized in the original C 700 P review in the older model there was a thin plastic shell that almost completely covered a overall a nice mesh front for no good reason the shell could be hinged outwards to access an optical drive or the front filter but leaving it open or taking it off permanently would look weird the situation is similar here but the plastic shell is narrower and has strips of ventilation on either side more importantly it can be completely taken off and still look natural I'll be it with fewer LEDs this and the dark base pro 900 may be the only cases we reviewed we're removing part of the front panel is something that a user might actually do rather than something we just do to test and prove a point the bottom and front filters are sheets of stiff perforated metal backed by a thick plastic reinforcement the bottom filter pulls forward which is the better way to do it so you don't have to move the case round away from the wall the top filter is more conventional and uses a light mesh sandwiched between layers of metal and plastic and the decorative metal layer may prove restrictive the top mounted radiators especially towards the back of the case where there are fewer holes both the front and the top of the case contain large easily removable fan mounts as well which we found to be well-built the built-in lighting is about as good as it gets for a RGB LEDs lit strips around the edges of the case are divided into sections of three so there's top front and bottom for lighting there's no internal lighting but the external lighting bounces off the inside of the top and bottom rails each section is plugged into cooler masters combined fan and led controller PCB there's decent amount of baked in colors and patterns that don't require external control but there's a header to accept motherboard control as well fans can be set to high medium low or motherboard control but as usual we plugged all fans directly into the motherboard for testing the LEDs in the front panel are connected via some gold pins at the bottom that automatically plug in and disconnect with the panel's removal which we've actually prefer two cables that get torn out our one complaint is that the front panel controls for the fans and LEDs are a little bit confusing each is controlled with a pair of plus and minus buttons but each pair is covered by a single shell which is marked in three places these status is indicated by multiple LEDs that aren't all labeled clearly it's easy to operate but it could be more intuitive the rest of the front panel i/o consists of four USB 3.0 ports a USB C port a dedicated mic jack and a 2.5 millimeter combined headphone and mic jack we rarely see this many USB 3 connections on a case despite many motherboards having headers to support them the combined headphone and mic jack is also a rarity but it makes sense given how common earbuds with integrated microphones have become the side panels hinge outwards enough to allow working on the internals easily but they also lift up and off the hinges pretty easily too they don't need screws like most of the other cases they're held in by magnets placed at the front edge of the panel which could be a problem for kale management if there weren't already so much room for cables the single glass panel is curved at both the front and back edges which is an impressive technical achievement because yields on curved glass panels are pretty low and something coolermaster has been working towards frankly the faux double curve and the seesaw 100p looks just as good but it's understandable that cm is pulling out all the stops for the C 700 app despite this they've resisted the urge to brand any part of the case other than the overall design the closest thing to a Master logo is the hexagonal start button and that's about it taking a moment to be really picky here there are a few pieces of the plastic trim that don't fit flush and this isn't something that would be worth calling out on less expensive cases we review but there shouldn't be any panel gaps pretty much whatsoever in a $440 enclosure at least not highly visible ones the front panel and the plastic ring that hides the door hinges are the only parts that exhibit this flaw like the seat 700p this is an invertible case it's a cool feature it adds some interesting options for showing off case internals it changes the thermals a bit but the quote chimney effect where the stack effect isn't as effective in pc cases as just using fans to direct air wherever you want it's still a massive hassle to invert the case or rotate it but it's a cool idea and good that it's possible we did this previously with cooler masters see 700 P and found it to be overall irritating to rearrange but definitely doable and you're probably only doing it once anyway the vertical GPU mount is much more versatile here than in other cases we've seen it's actually a big hinge to support that attaches to the PSU shroud and can be folded flat so that the card lines up against the shroud you could also fold it partially to put the card at an angle our card is a little too wide for that overall it's not a reference PCB but there's still plenty of room to mount it vertically which there often isn't if there's anything that the C 700 has plenty of though its space and that also aids in GPU thermals which we'll talk about more later as for the riser cable that's applied that's 400 millimeters long which is long enough to allow putting the card pretty much anywhere inside of the case including with the inversion or rotation options getting to the thermal section now we did all the testing with four stock fans in their default positions so three front intake one rear exhaust and those are plugged into the motherboard and set to full speed we didn't do any testing of the inverted or chimney layout this time but again let us know if that's something you want additional tests were done without the front panel covering without any panel whatsoever and using the GPU Mountain vertically with the GPU in the standard orientation in the case as well well start first a standalone seat 700 testing and then moved to comparative data CBO temperature during the torture test averaged 61 degrees Celsius over ambient and the stock configuration temperatures improved drastically without the front panel cover and the new average was 51 point seven degrees over ambient a rough 10 degree improvement from baseline the cover expectedly chokes almost all potential airflow through the front of the case and the strips of ventilation that are left are covered in an extra layer of decorative mesh this raises an interesting point the front panel shell has no unfiltered gaps so the internal filter is pointless unless the shell is removed users should opt to use one or the other the internal filter or the shell but not both we prefer using just the internal filter here which wasn't that much warmer than the forty seven point nine degree temperature from using no front panel at all the vertical GPU test also kept the CPU surprisingly cool but we'll discuss that test more in the GPU section this is partly because we reduce Edin radiative heat off the backside of the GPU and changing where the GPU is exhausting its Heat see 700 mm stock temperature measured warmer than we saw in the C 700 P but removing the front panel entirely from each resulted in equivalent thermal performance with in error anyway the frame is overall unchanged it's just the front panel and the filter have received those heavy modifications comparatively none of the other cases on the full chart really compete in the $400 price class it's just this is one of the few we reviewed at this price assuming a 61-degree standard temperature for a stock it's really not impressive and toward the bottom of the chart assuming a 51 degrees standard temperature with the cover removed which still looks like a normal case mind you the case does very well overall it lands about where the 1/2 X is in that instance and that's a decent spot to be for something that's not trying to be the most airflow intensive case ever GPU torture temperature averaged 48 point 3 degrees Celsius over ambient and improved by a couple degrees with this front panel completely removed the only result that differed vastly from the others was the vertical GPU test which averaged 69.6 degrees at DT and it throttled down to just under 700 megahertz to limit thermals as opposed to about 1780 megahertz for the standard torture test mind you this is with a power virus not a gaming at workload so the point here is that the clocks will be enumerated currently by the application the main reason the CBO temperature was so much cooler with the GPU vertical is probably because of the airflow change moving the GPU to the vertical position puts its fans out of the airflow path of the front fans it's stealing less of the front air and then instead of sitting horizontally where it's radiating heat into the middle of the fin stack for the CPU it's sitting vertically with a giant gap behind it so that hot air has got somewhere else to sit that shouldn't influence the Seaview intake quite as much moving on to the comparative chart the seats have 100mm is forty eight point three degree result is one of the best GB results we've seen which is why there was so little improvement when the front panel was removed the number of intake fans combined with the width and general size of the case means that the GPU supplied plenty of cool air and is able to exhaust as much hot air as it wants really one of the few cases that did better was the original C 700 P at forty three point three degrees Celsius delta T over ambient but that was only when its front panel and filter were removed the C 700 M placed forty six point five degrees in the same configuration which is more or less equivalent 3dmark fire strike extreme testing raised the GPU temperature slightly higher than the torture tests of fifty point three degrees Celsius delta theory' ambient that's great compared to the other cases on the chart equalling the silverstone raven rb0 to in performance the seat 700 m repeatedly does well for GPU temperature the blender cpu ran to raise the cpu temperature to 40 degrees celsius around the level of the fractal Mushaf i and defined c cases neither of which ship with as many fans as we'd like them to they have to 120s the stock see 700 p man is 38.3 degrees celsius in comparison and GPU temperature in the render workload was twenty four point one degrees celsius within margin of error of the top three results the dark based pro 900 revision to the PMO one and a half acts to see 700 P average 27 degrees in the same test definitely not as impressive noise is up next forty point one DBA marks the C 700 M a bit louder than the C 700 PE but not significantly so even though the C 700 M has an additional fan taking the front panel cover off with the fans still at full speed raised our noise reading to forty two point three DBA one of the noisy results on the chart but it's understandable if this proves anything is that the front panel shall at least does a decent job at muffling some of the fan noise talk--i then is it worth it and getting into the conclusion let's let's start off on a real note here a $440 case for most people is not going to be worth it let's just get that out of the way that's not to say the case is bad don't get us wrong there but 440 bucks is a video card it's a lot of memory it's a high-end CPU so of course you all know this this is a luxury item if you have a lot of money and you are already building high-end pcs you just one of those people who just you're okay with spending it if it gets you what you want because you have the money then it's worth considering but only then because otherwise there's still plenty of cases made by Coolermaster and other people into your price brackets this is very much what is known as a halo product it is meant to get eyes on the Coolermaster brand and then if someone really likes the case but they can't afford it or justify the expense look at other Coolermaster cases that perhaps they can't afford it's a common tactic everyone does it Corsair does it with their obsidian series for example so this is a halo product and if you are into the idea of Coolermaster after seeing the case although of course we never recommend following a specific brand just follow the products instead but if you really like what you see still the age 500 mesh or H 500 P mesh as it were is one of the best cases they make right now a very good case the H 500 non P and on M non mesh just straight age 500 also pretty good in the budget class but this case doing over the key points here so it's got plenty of room for stuff it's not you can do water cooling with it just fine you can do pretty much whatever you want with it just fine there are better cases if you want to go all out like the SM 800 for example the case labs case but case labs is now gone so good luck getting one of those so the case though the GPU cooling is way better than we expected so kudos to Coolermaster that vertical GPU : not good with an air-cooled card don't put an air-cooled card in there if it's gonna be vertical against the glass go with a liquid cooled card instead that's kind beating at that horse at this point and then the performance overall so for CPU cooling and cooling in general we still recommend just going with this case is too big I can't do it so we would recommend removing probably this or the filter but don't leave both in because there's really no point in having two layers of dust filtration on there just gonna suffocate the airflow this will catch dust just fine it's a pretty fine mesh and you don't need the other one and performance will improve quite a bit as we saw so there's plenty of room here for decent performance stock out of the box it's really not that good but you remove that panel it's pretty damn good or if you want the panel because you want the RGB LEDs because that is let's face it half the selling point of the case then you just take out the filter in there and you leave that in there and you're still doing okay so that's that's our recommendation if you are going to actually buy the case build quality is fine it's decent overall as a product it's very expensive if we're being honest it is of course for most people not even close to justifiable but Coolermaster I'm sure knows this it's it's it's a video card how you buy a Vega 64-56 GTX 970 TI something like that with that kind of money they know it so yeah it's not for everyone but overall the products it's fine it's certainly a much better launch than the age 500 P original launch and it does incorporate a lot of the criticisms that people had of the c7 RP and the age 500 PE original case so good to see that progress as well we actually liked the C 700 P original case a decent amount it wasn't wasn't our favorite but we liked it more than H 500 peerage '''l case because the invertible feature is very interesting if not mainstream it's not something everyone wants but it's cool to have a product that does something that is different than just being a box you put stuff and sometimes as long as it can still breathe and the see some hard series has always been ok with it as long as you can kind of work with the filters they give you and cut it down like the example that I just gave right here so overall that's the C 700 M as a that links in the description below for more like our review of it Patrick's articles down there if you want the written version with testing methodology and go to patreon.com/scishow Nexus how's that directly go to store it on cameras axis not net to pick up one of our shirts one of our mod mats or other products I'll see you all next time