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this monstrosity is what we built for our Hades River content and we were gonna do a stream but ended up getting a note via email from the founder of danger den if anyone remembers them they made a lot of really cool acrylic case parts and things like that and they messaged me and he said hey we saw your video on Hades Canyon actually we have a way better solution than 30 zip ties and a closed loop liquid cooler our solution is this so this is a custom made as far as I'm aware it's it's either one or very close to one off but I'm gonna I'm gonna call it a one-off it's a custom made basically a torture rack that'll fit Hades Canyon I think and then there's your reservoir and the more important part is that he shipped over this custom block for it so it'll fit the vrm the GPU the CPU and I think probably the HBM as well but I'm not sure so what we're gonna do now is put a custom loop on Hades Canyon see if we can get it up to 5 gigahertz for an overclock at which point it'll be better 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Canyon overclocking results where we pushed it really far past what it could be handled on the stock air cooler we pushed way past what this thing could do because that's what was on there originally that versus a 280 mm cooller that's bigger than the board itself so we pushed way past what it could do stock but still ran into thermal problems eventually up towards the four point seven gigahertz range on the CPU and stock it's between four point two and four point three gigahertz four point seven is pretty respectable if I say so myself and the GPU is something like thirteen twenty two thirteen fifty megahertz there was one test we do thirteen seventy it's a it's a Vega GPU so quite good as well but we still ran into their own problems and that's because the mounting pressure so first thing we need to do is take apart my old solution and start prepping it for the danger dam solution which by the way the danger dam folks now have just basically a I think a hobbyist modding website that you should check out I think it's moonlight mod calm if you want to check them out that's what they're up to these days so pretty simple to start out here I'm just gonna snap one of these per side just so we don't like destroy the the PC because already kind of bending and in fact when I got the email from the danger done folks it basically said please don't destroy your Hades Canyon system let me send you something better so anyone who saw the first one you might remember I put a ton of thermal paste on here a lot of it ended up on the outside the reason I put a lot on there was because we knew this plate would be sliding around while mountainous we'd obviously to have a proper mounting solution so that was expected and it looks like it still needed more thermal paste than what we had like those it actually just we only got one shot at this better make it good all right so what we're gonna do is a test alignment I actually don't oh they did ten screws over there okay so they said screws for this not sure how this line up but let's figure it out I guess these are interesting are these different heights that might explain something I think these are different heights so this plate that was sent in this part over here is very slightly higher than this part over here and looking at the Hades Canyon stuff it looks like the GPU is actually a slightly raised over the CPU so if that's intentional then this part needs to be on the CPU ok well that might explain why the GPU is doing so much better thermally than the CPU in our follow up testing with this thing because it looks like the CPU is slightly lower than the GPU and HBM which I didn't notice before didn't notice until this didn't seem level and now it makes a lot of sense so if that's genuinely the case and to my eye it looks like it but I'm not sure then we should already have better results from this so what do we need we need thermal pads and we need thermal paste and some screws and I think that'll be most of it up until we get to the liquid part right I I have plenty of thermal pads myself but the the folks who sent us this cooling setup sent a separate letter later and said oops forgot to include the thrown pad sorry so we're gonna go ahead and use those since they did actually bother to send us out pad specifically for this I'm gonna have to cut them the size so we don't have any chokes coverage but that should be okay i think i think the chokes will be fine they're just giant copper coils anyway so that should be fine all right so thrown pads are going on top of the MOSFETs which will get reasonably hot but they can take a lot of heat so that's fine and airflow for the chokes this vrm is not particularly powerful it's pretty good for what it is but we have a vrm analysis of this up on the channel by builds I'd if you're curious about how good the vrm has checked it out he also because we don't know full details on this particular vrm just because it would be hard to get a lot of details he ends up using that video as it means to explain and teach what his vrm analysis videos look at so you check that out alright so now we just need thermal paste I'm just gonna pull I think some cryo not off the wall probably a lot of people previously we're asking us why don't you use liquid metal which we have some up there or we have actually we have some right here to conduct or not so asking why why don't you just look good medal for this well it's already direct eye contact so that's doing most of the work you're not really gaining a whole lot once you're already direct I by going with liquid metal and more importantly it's conductive so it's a huge pain in the ass because I'd have to paint over any SMDs we don't want to impact and it's just kind of annoying to get the coverage I would need with liquid metal and the gains are going to be basically zero this is not conductive I get this all over everything so I'm actually going to apply too much here because I don't know how much that block is gonna move around while I'm trying to install it I'd rather have too much that comes out of the edges then not have enough and have beared icon or a bare die with no no interface what you saw when we uncapped it I put a ton of their own paste on there last time and taking the thing apart just now it still wasn't really fully covered so this should be good for us it is on the heavy side but that's fine that's the whole point not can I hurt by having too much because it'll get pushed out the sides hey we're gonna do a quick excursion and I'm gonna run hot water through this block just to clean it out and it's got some dirt in there just from shipping and we're going to scrub the bottom too what now another tweet stop it stop tweeting at gamers Nexus you're messing up my videos alright so this is pretty clean now condensation but that's fine it's a water cooler there's still some dirt in there I'm gonna try and hit the bottom of it with rubbing alcohol and then we'll be good to go I think that's reasonable ok so it's not the most perfect piece of copper in the world but it's a prototype it's a one-off that's fine so we're gonna put this down and give this orientation a shot for building this loop and you also need to make sure do these actually thread into this thing someone just tweeted at me again this video is not even live yet and they're doing it turn it just to spite me okay so we definitely have contact now the PCB is not bending I think not bending too much anymore not like he used to be bending so I would definitely better overall and I think there's contact and I don't think it's excessive I know there's contact I don't think it's excessive so now you need to start filling the loop and get it doing a test run so we can see if it looks like it's actually pulling properly but we've got the V RMS taken care of so that's cool I think the next step here is probably mount it to the danger den chassis or the danger den successor the spiritual successor to danger dead and moonlight mods chassis and see what we can do with a pump set up at that point so we're gonna start mounting this into the new frame so this is gonna mount up here I guess or is it gonna fit okay I need to get there we go how to magnetize a screwdriver step one of ten magnet step two one more screw to hold in the PCB this is gonna be really cool so I'm pretty excited about this cuz basically we've turned the haiti's Canyon nook into a proper desktop computer and if the overclocking goes as I want it to it's gonna be just about as powerful as one where you're gonna be limited by the power adapter so that's a big question mark right now is if we're getting limited to 230 watts out of that thing is that gonna be enough to power an overclock on this once it's all done being be stood out for this mod ek water blocks pump I think I have an adapter that will allow us to mount it right here second route the liquid under so here's our dilemma right now if I were on a stream I just asked everybody as soon as you keep tweeting me even though I asked you not there I guess he can hear me anyway but the thought is can either take this is from the titan v-- stream it has a suit on fan a Vardar and a bag that fan it was used to get us one of the top four World Records for time spy I think so we've got that that's a 360 it's a good performer but this thing is not built for a 360 millimeter radiator so I could do it 240 here and the only reason I like the idea of a about 240 is because it fit really cleanly down here I put this on top of the mounting bracket on top of the radiator and it'd be pretty good there's not really a downside to that except I would have to go get it ha ha that's waving downside so alternatively we put a 360 in and I can even just kind of stand it next to the thing in which case our radiators bigger than the entire case holding the device or maybe we like to stick this through here and and then all the same principles would apply it's just gigantic so in this instance either way fans will push air up and through the rest of the board so the rest of the board will have cool and if your items will have general coolness this will be a bit of a hot spot up here but that's fine so the question is what do I do it's Who I like the idea of a 240 and how compact it would be because it feels true to the Hades Canyon nook and you could still argue that you can take it places even though no one ever would but also I like the idea of having a 360 millimetre radiator that's like three times the volume of the entire PCB cooling Hayes Canyon components to be fair I mean theoretically they're almost be a bit lower with this and theoretically for every 10 degrees drop in temperature we should have about a 4% drop in power leakage that would give us some more power back against our 230 watt wall adapter so I'm gonna say we try this tube routings gonna be kind of kind of gross I think another thing yeah okay so I think what we're gonna do is probably like I want to run tubes under here I think if I wanted to be clean and I want to use the reservoir on the front I still have some blue fluid so that would be really cool to use as well if I can make it like purple I would be like a blue and red that would be cool so okay I need to figure out the tube route in here so we jump ahead in time a bit this is what we came up with it's if we time-lapse that you'll see after I kind of figured out what to do it didn't take too long but basically I'll walk you through what's going on so first all the skull in the Front's really cool and the way they built it the the moonlight mods guys the way they did it is basically there's a tube coming in here and the tube is it enters into the chamber I guess I don't know if it's an acrylic housing but it enters in and pushes it up on an angle up against the wall at a trajectory inversely proportional basically like equivalent to the angle of the skull so when the liquid goes up and hits the top of the skull it spins in a circle it shows up really well on our timeline or in our footage of filling the the pump and down side was that the I didn't go through and double check that everything was tight so that the cap that was in here originally was not tight all the way fortunately only leaked a little bit I'm leak testing it so what that means is this system is completely off right now the only thing that's on is a power supply powering the pump which is obviously running liquid through it so we're gonna let this run for about 24 hours full and I'm gonna put paper towels everywhere if there's any sign of I've marked where the liquid is roughly on the reservoir so if there's any sign of leakage we'll know but if it's not leaking we can go ahead and attach the system as far as the loop goes that I'm really happy with it the way I routed it in the end as you can see in our time-lapse footage is basically I did the outtake straight into the block obviously the block for the CPU vrm and hpm and GPU then goes into the skull reservoir and it goes in on the right side which is important because that's how you get that spinning effect nearly did it the other way and I'm glad I didn't and then we're using some of these bent fittings from ek so we've got several of these some of them are 90-degree some are just kind of soft angles so that goes into the radiator which is a 360 I'll remind you comes out of the radiator goes under the Nook and back into the reservoir the pump and reservoir so it's really cool the I think the ideal use for this would be a 240 radiator in the bottom and then just a pump and then use their reservoir it's not a lot of liquid but you only have one block in there and if you've got a 240 radiator there's plenty to go around so that'd probably be the ideal way to do it it's not I think we'll get a bit more thermal Headroom for sure with this setup because I've got three high-powered fans on here there's a ton of liquid way more volumes and then the CPU could ever hope to need and saturate so we'll be good there it'll give us a bit more overhead and it's just kind of cool because I mean the radiator is bigger than the entire thing so that's fun too plus it's the radiator that got us top 4 ish in the world record rankings for time spy vs. lioness in the rip ltte stream so yeah that's the loop over all basically pump and Rose combo reservoir in the front which seems to no longer be leaking so that's good thing 360 rad which is the LC solution cool stream PE need to work on that name EK the the cool stream p on the bottom and then we've got the custom block from danger folks or former danger den folks I should say and I think for the fans I'll just do a mixture of soon on maglevs which are soon on and maybe a Vardar or something and I think that will wrap up our fans pretty well so other than that our next objective is to see if this goes past four point seven gigahertz this time and if we run into a power limitation so now the plan is run the leak test and we're gonna do a live stream for this so we're gonna basically go through all the benchmarks again and just try and see if we can stabilize but I don't know over four point seven gigahertz I hope before hitting a power wall and for that we're looking at probably mid next week so that would be maybe the 23rd or somewhere around there 23rd 24th Wednesday Thursday we'll announce this on Twitter so twitter.com slash gamers Nexus or on Facebook as well and we'll also try to announce it in one of the next videos but looking at doing the livestream of it sometime next week basically so yeah next possible bottleneck is gonna be power 4 which I don't presently have a solution but we'll see how far we can go with this setup and then maybe try and solve it so that's it for this one thank you to the folks that moonlight mods aka danger den for sending this over it's a lot of fun to work with looks really good and the skull has darkened now so for those of you who are who are more familiar with open loops I'd be curious what your thoughts are on why that's happened I don't think it's dirt because the rest of the loop is not dark but either way it looks pretty good so now we just need to see if the performance is good and that's it for this one subscribe for more go to patreon.com/scishow next stops out directly go to store documents nexus net pick up the GN mod mat it's on backorder if you order soon ish you will definitely get one for the next round I I have to say that I like the mat even more after working with it with liquid cooling because I got a lot liquid on here and it's held up like a beast so check that out on the store store that gamers ex has done that thanks for watching I'll see you all next time