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every one so I was caught by this guy on the show floor this is eight-pack he is actually dare Bauer's nemesis so a pack came over to me and said I've seen you doing a lot of videos with Roman and if you don't do a video with me you're not gonna like what happens that's actually quite scary so this is pretty interesting Roman has his own water cooling thing we talked about monoblocks set up without tubes you've got your own water clean thing you're at overclockers UK yeah Thrones at caseking yeah and you're kind of the same company ultimately yeah ultimately for the same company right am i working together with with slightly different focuses but the same common goal right ultimate performance no compromise there's something different to the industry yeah so for the water clean solution we were talking about this I've seen so many open-loop everything at the show a lot of it is very similar right yeah but you're talking about performance focus yeah everyone else talking about RGB LEDs 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Wonderwall said there was something different okay I'm to go about the project we first looked at what are the limitations of the current particle in solution and by doing that obviously we selected a range of products and we noticed that every single one is doing the the straight impingement plate to design onto a symmetrical fin yeah if you like that's parallel parallel microphone yeah hello micro friends where the fluid is flowing down right and we noticed with this arrangement the temperature of the fluid essentially was not equal across the surface of the cool employee okay and that the essentially that the temperature performance was not scared that what performance was not scaling correctly with the power of the pomp or the pressure of the pump and also that there was no directed calling so the cause at the end of the day in fact were much warmer than the ones where the liquid directed in the place so one of the folks is then there are different hot spots on the dies yeah exactly depend on like every type of diary every family's yet yeah so that's a nightmare to design for but you were telling me so you guys did some x-rays I guess yeah we did some extra find out where the the heats coming from on the day itself and then we're tested for each block many many in impingement plates so we got the direct flow over the the dies it's a hot spots yeah I mean of course any scale a hex die is a certain force a 12-car 18 core whatever they they just cut off features on the CPU itself so so we've optimized the impingement plate for the day in question okay so I guess coming down to the performance side of things I think one of the questions or comments you'll get in the comment section is okay but water cooling is already good enough so who cares about the difference yeah well I mean this is a no compromise right its they've been the best of the best and and not being a me too it's yeah what what school in is spirit now but you can still do something better right right you know and of the design that we've come up with is is also one which will lower maintenance for the end-user you know and every single CPU that the end user buys they can change the impingement plate so they know they're getting the absolute optimum cooling so for that then isn't like you just pull a couple screws out and you swap the plates so yeah you just you can just undo the before Allen bolts on the bottom take up in the blog put in the near wimp internment play we put together the ball okay let's let's talk about this you were telling me that there's a couple things I wanna touch on but one of them is direct to IHS or direct eye contact option so direct eye everyone I think knows you deal it to die an equal directly I know it's a bit more involved water cool and got let's do direct IHS first because that's a bit different so direct IHS you remove the copper cold plate is that accurate yeah where they move the the cold plate we tell a cup of cold plate ask some really unique features okay but yeah you'll remove the copper cold plate and you have a seal which is sealing effectively the water block directly to the IHS okay and obviously by doing this you remove the copper plate itself which can be an efficient and you remove the layer of tin we know is always inefficient even with the best teams possible you know even with liquid landfill you move up and you make that much more efficient fewer fewer interfaces is better yeah of course always yeah yeah yeah so so the seal then to make sure it doesn't leak into the socket is it like it gaskets or what yeah it's to gaskets that we've tested to temperatures a you know really high temperatures of 1/3 and we've tested over long duration I mean that won't be a skill that everyone will be able to buy you know there'll be an SI stroke service skill for like high frequency trading all people who need the absolute because obviously as you can probably gather from the type of the skill that it is it would be easy for someone to make a mistake in mount oh yeah the best instructions possible and I won't want to damage anyone's hardware but it will be available in si across the casting group okay yeah what about direct dye is that that's a very similar similar configure it's just an optimal play it now for the smaller area of the of the direct secure just from mounting for us from the screws yeah okay exactly that yeah and we'll have our own in time our own talk screws so they click when it's mounted correctly so you cannot over tighten or under tight yeah I mean that's obviously important with the megamagnifier seal and also not damaging the da yes other thing I wanted to mention so we were talking about the the pressure of the water coming into the block yeah so one of the issues with water cooling is people are well aware is stuff getting gunked up over time yeah right inspector and yeah and this it's partly a user error issue if they're not if you're not maintaining your loops that's kind of I mean if you don't change the fluid in your car it's kind of your fault to some degree but there's definitely manufacturers to do things poorly to different types of coolant scan gunk up as well of course yeah so we were talking about how on the block side of things you do a few things and one of them has increased the pressure going into the block itself and the pressure flush out yeah it's pushing everything out so then how are you increasing the pressure well what we've got with the the impingement plaintiff resident the way it was obviously we using jet impingement so the Jets are you know according to weather with a cause are a bunch of small holes right yeah okay yeah of different damage is actually depending on the the scipio a ton of cool okay you know so we've investigated all that kind of thing very thoroughly but it's also obviously where this higher pressure yes there's slightly more impingement however it's making sure that the the data block itself is completely cleaned out all right you know normal gauntlets gunking up the microf in style blocks is not going on power blocks at all and it obviously it's designed for maintenance-free the only tenant should have to take a block of pies if you want to change the impingement wait till were to change the queue and then you also and will hopefully have one of these to show but he also showed me a photo of the inside of the coal plate yeah before we saw like a thread ripper one i think yeah one of the other ones and there were bins of varying heights yes is that accurate yes correct yeah so then the simple question why well essentially the the symmetrical parallel fin arrangement is not efficient you know the best way of cooling is is to create like a vortex or create some real speed and if you like turbulence you know water so we have what we call an offset strip fin arrangement okay which is varying height heights of fins in a pattern but very much randomized British turbulence and again it's it's focuses around performance okay you know just keep it keeping pressure on improving performance exactly that and obviously there are studies whatever ever will align to a new pump mm coming later of course the way we want to beat the competition by several degrees with the current solution on the current water cooling pumps but our solutions is designed to also scale great with compression okay so you know I mean something like the direct dye we're talking like over 10 degree way with the right pump and and going in the other and going into higher direction right so it's a big I mean that's a hundred megahertz on the CPL right you know and for that customer that idea within and indeed your viewers that's more frame rate or it's more CFD or real realistically not even frame rate just just more points on the leaderboard yeah of course if you're a benchmark this is everything right yeah okay so injection molding you mentioned yeah what is it you want to you want to tell me about that well I mean injection molding is you know a very precise manufacturing technique it's you're making a water cooling market but it's very popular in the automotive industry and our manufacturing is done by a company that is specialized in manufacturing parts for very high-end ok motive which is Tesla for example all right yeah so I mean it's a very durable technique a very consistent technique and every single block you know they can trace back when it was my new furniture you know really for the highest level quality control possible so sir Owen puts the words German engineering perfected on all of his products yeah sounds like you might have even higher standards yeah of course I like to think so I mean the Germans are very famous for this and I have to say our and our manufacturing is actually in Ireland oh no they're manufacturing for around the world yeah and they're really the highest grade possible so that the plexi finish which you see here on the block this is machine but it will be like glass in the final product and obviously will I'd RGB another features that the gamer of today really not to my test with the game Adam oh yeah so x2 and x3 are the CPU blocks yeah and then let's talk about GPU briefly so what's a lot of the concept is the same I guess yeah the the GPU were on launch will have 28 - 28 ETA right the concept is totally the same the GPU box name is vortex the idea is that they get sucked out down the middle okay and the GPU block also has the offset strip fins and as the shower head that is designed to calm Emily the CUDA section and also some section of it are targeting individual parts of the dye yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah of course but it's Gannon is between 8 and 10 see all competitors in the GPU and we're also cooling VRMs in other parts of the of the GPU board that need okay that's pretty cool yeah I mean the the CPU block code names are like X 2 and X 3 a little bit player which is the basic block Pro which is the midline and then extreme which is the direct that those are the three ranges okay and obviously the pro will be the lower end of the market but still a very affordable price but still as good as the top end blocks of the current gen of everywhere else okay and then the middle block is is better and then the final block is better there and like I said this scaling with pop pressing big claims yeah but good very good good to enter into it with a gal actually like do something right I mean eight pack is no compromise right so I'm working with no compromise company who a research-based and they want to do everything the best and this projects been ongoing for like nine to twelve months now it's not something so we want to make sure that we are the best that row substantiate our clients right it's the last thing then release dates and prices any of that well pricing will obviously be competitive the entry-level blocked I say it's very close to if not the same performances that the top-level blocks and that'll be that be you know much lower price than their top box CBD though on a hard price yeah yeah yeah yeah exactly because the injection-molded manufacturing it is not nailed down yet because we're going to saw out the lock right right and that's what we find you in a minute the performance is nailed down is too that were fine right but that hopefully we're lucky to bring the product to market within hike eight to ten weeks okay so we've got a heavier if you like development schedule on the look and also the I guess the marketing materials but how you fit the block you know the Tim to you was at blah blah you know that your stuff and all the paraphernalia that goes around making it a professional project right okay got no compromise what I call it right well I look forward to testing it yeah you can check out more of this stuff I guess Oh see you came yeah okay and obviously Casey will be distributing all sir right yeah okay explosively a bit available from the kissing group as soon as it's available 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