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EVGA 1080 Ti SC2 Hybrid Tear-Down

2017-05-20
we've got less than a week before leaving for Computex which is in another continent so with that time we're going to tear down at the EVGA hybrid sc2 they just sent this to us up front I'm going to tell you we probably won't have time to fully review this before the show but we can at least take it apart on the outside there are some changes visually to the shroud a few other places we're going to see if there are any changes internally to the cooling solution this is obviously a liquid gold card as you can see there so this does follow their hybrid line as small changes to the fan looks but otherwise it seems like the same fan what interests me is when I look down the side here I can see into the housing and the shell and I can see a copper plate that looks like it's on the B Ram so we're the two that does before getting to that list content is brought to you by ifixit.com you can go to ifixit.com slash gamers Nexus to see our link and you can use code gamers Nexus for five dollars off at purchase today we're going to try and use the PC essentials kit for everything this is a $20 kit rather than the 60 to 70 dollar Pro Tech tool kit we normally use I think this has everything we need but I'm actually not sure so I've got all the other ones just in case but what we're going to do is take this part so first off that means getting rid of this and noting the price this is an $800 card this is the most expensive of the 1080p as we've looked at thus far what the others being the asus strix at 780 and the FT w3 at 780 and before we take the screws out I would like to show everyone these things are you ready for this this is the poster EVGA why why do you keep doing this I think I've been reviewing EVGA cards for a couple years now maybe the amount of these that have gone to the recycling bin could probably create a forest haha just either a better poster or stop okay or six stickers by the way for the window of your case anyway let's take this apart let's get them the thing that they do well we is cooling at least with the icx series especially so we're going to start out looks like with Philips there are a bunch of these that's too big they're a bunch of the smaller Phillips heads with this tool kit that is I believe going to be a size zero zero or zero yes your zero so we're going to take these back plate screws out first these go through the PCB back plate and into the rest of the into the base plate in theory we'll find out fortunately there's no evidence of us going through the tamper seal okay so they're sticking with their thermal pads on everything this one's on the backside of the MOSFETs and maybe the chokes that's on the vram right there you can see the grease outline so that's the half the back plate off we take this half off also stuck on by lots and lots of thermal pad backside the GPU VRAM VRAM pretty straightforward stuff we've seen all this before if you're curious if there's dome pads have any impact the answer with these cards that we used is yes it is not always it doesn't always matter with the back plate they don't always actually provide cooling but we tested these back when we did the AC x with and without thermal pads testing where we talked about the ECX problems and EVGA is solution with more thermal pads you can see the impact they have in our testing in that content if you're curious should be able to come off at this point it's countless screws first three six eleven fourteen sixteen and then four more so we've got 20 total screws back before holding in the the front the actual cooler the pump I should say it's all loose now we're going to try and get rid of this first so it's just the shroud it's pretty interesting this bit different so first of all I need to pull this out okay cool there's your shroud if you didn't notice they've got a new like wannabe tessellation stuff on here so it's kind of like the tessellated finish of the FE card except without the actual indentations that's new normally just gray I'm not sure if this is new I think it is I don't have another hybrid in front of me right now but this is an illuminated plate so I'm pretty sure that's new and it's se 2 which means probably PI RGB okay so here's where I get to explain what this mess is here for we did that once before but it's been a while let's detach all this first so first of all you'll notice this is the extruded plate that or I should say protruding plate otherwise people get mad this is a protruding copper plate that we've been talking about for a while EVGA uses it in their hybrid kit and in their hybrid cards the part that's interesting here is this time there's actually Tim on the outer rim of the plate so why is that there because this is clearly the part contact in the GPU but not this well if you don't follow our coverage or haven't made the connection yourself already you can see the rim here aligns with the rim on that the reason there is they're all pasted here and so much of it is because this copper plate is contacting vram here via Ram here via Ram here it's you're contacting vrm and it's sinking into a plate that's got to go somewhere it doesn't it can't just sit there and this fan is not going to cool it so what it does is they contact the plate via a lot of Tim but it's still better than not doing the solution to the pump the cold plate and that conducts they share the same cooling solution they share the pumps of the GPU and the vram share the pump that means your GPU temperatures will look higher because there are vram temperatures or the the vram is being synced to the same module so that makes the measured temperature go up on the GPU but the vram goes lower so it's just one of those trade-offs it's still fine though you're still ultimately in good shape really as long as you have even a decent air cooler on one of these so that's the solution from the outside is this already loose it should be okay cool here is the inside try to keep track of all their thermal pads there's an sc2 PCB we have already talked up sc2 is a reference layout with some changes not too many though not in a crazy fashion and nothing like that cw3 certainly which was also detailed so here you can see some aluminum fins is pretty standard just gives you some extra surface area so this is a normal axial fan it's not one of the radial blower fans so that pushes down below see the fins obviously dissipate heat you've got another stack here and all this is doing is thinking the FETs the chokes which really don't need to be synced but they are anyway and memory VRM and there's your pads right there that's over here that's all this right there chokes slash inductors if you prefer and then capacitor banks on the smaller they're all pad right there with memory v RM stuff at the top so that's thinking that it's all controlled there we will have the ability to measure these temperatures individually we'll use our own thermocouples as well as EVGA ACX stuff here is just to kind of hide the bumps it is non-functional other than they might help with vibration of it not sure but it hides the pumps primarily that sockets on to this which is new so they've added that and my said new I should say in relation to the previous hybrid we looked at which is probably a 1080 that's not pads in rough shape oh wait I removed the tool Ron we got to read the instructions push down to remove tools oh my gosh thank you I fix it I would not have to get that a hat okay we've saved their whole pad baby all right I worry about the rest of it later smooth it out later so here's our plate cover plate we've got the mounting points the contact points be a thermal pad which again sinks to the pump and that's the end of the story coin for the vram and the rest of its just elevated because the matter of all this needs to do is contact the pump cold blade doesn't need to touch the PCB that's irrelevant so that's the plate and the pump do we have anything else special to talk about here LED power pomp and fan are these merged into one they normally are yes so these connect to one right there so these bridge into each other and then sock it into the board so you're controlled by that now what I'm not sure is how how does icx come into play with these hybrid cards and we'll find that out for the review because that's potentially interesting e six nine three twos for the feds G six nine three zero for the memory vrm so nothing nothing that we haven't talked out in the past memory vrm we've got you six nine three zeros up here and then the feds B six nine three two so that's the card clean it off I guess and wraps us up so the hybrid is a this is an S C 2 which means that they've basically taken their their other SC to the air cold one and stuck a liquid cooler on it so if you watch our air cooled review in terms of performance gaming things like that which really isn't going to change much between these cards the key is that is you watch that review you'll get an idea for the baseline we'll look at thermals and things for this one as quickly as possible hopefully hopefully before Computex but that's kind of pushing it so we will soon find out and that's it for this one thanks for watching as always this is the sc2 hybrid 800 bucks maybe wait for our review before purchasing like always we found that the 1080i is generally speaking for gaming if you're looking for FPS they're all basically the same there within a couple percent of each other maybe founders Edition notwithstanding if you're not bypassing the thermal limit by instituting your own fan curve so the only place they differ is thermals and noise that's what we're going to test with this one but we've already tested pretty heavily the SC to the Strix the FTW three the gigabyte Oris extreme card and msi gaming eggs and of those the cooling is I mean they're really all fine for cooling once you get to that class of card but this is still interesting because liquid cooling means you can drive down temperatures or temperatures are driven down by the liquid but you can sacrifice some of that advantage in thermal and instead lower your noise by lowering fan rpm which for these radiator fans we normally plug them into the motherboard to do that and then you have the lowest possible noise while still retaining temperatures that are about the same as the others so to fix temperature or fix the noise output you end up with better temperatures so against all that and more as always thank you for watching subscribe to more you can go to patreon.com/scishow and razaaq's to sign up for shirts like these we have the G M logo shirts back in stock in cotton and we've got a couple of the graph logo shirts left as always you can get use the gamers Nexus coupon code from iFixit to grab one of their toolkits this one with the special manual for how to remove that thing that I just not vertically removed I'll see you all next time you
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