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hey everyone today we're tearing down an EVGA at 1080 hybrid that's this right here so this actually uses an FTW board this particular model it is a 1080 FTW hybrid and it's got some interesting characteristics for that reason one we really want to see the PC because it's obviously not a reference design this for the record would be a reference design this is the Corsair Seahawk that we already took apart and so the point specifically of this endeavor is to swap the heatsink on this unit with the one on this unit and vice versa rerun the thermal test because we're getting some performance results that I really didn't expect going into this specifically from the hybrid so before getting to this the content is brought to you by ibuypower and the new elements in gaming pc which uses an s3 40 that's been modified to have a large tempered glass side window LEDs for underglow and the fans and is available now so the EVGA hybrid previously when we looked at the 980 i hybrid versus the 980 TI seahawk or hydrographics if if you prefer from coarser we've looked at them this card for the 980 TI generation way outperformed the Seahawk but coarser and MSI have made some changes in this generation so this is their cooler this time if we hold up hold sort of a laser against this thing you can actually you'll see that the surface is perfectly flat these days and that is conducive to GPU cooling because a GPU doesn't have the same curvature that an IHS has for CPUs talked about this a million times but it's flat now and that's good for GPU so that certainly has improved performance a bit it reduces the reliance on Tim to make that contact between the GPU and a curvature found in the cold plate of the previous models that's helped but still the EVGA card does seem like it should be performing better than it is and that leads me to believe that there's there's a few variables here we'll talk about them in the review I don't think we'll be able to get this lower than the Seahawk what we're gonna try so that's gonna be mostly by dismantling it and swapping the coolers so this thing is technically if we wanted to just change the coolers it would be much easier than what I'm about to do but I want to take the whole thing apart because we want to see the PCB anyway just cuz that's kind of interesting to look at and understand what's going on under the hood that's weird okay so just before we get any further into this you may have noticed we've already swapped out the fan here this is the Corsair cooler and I've put the EVGA fan on it that was part of some troubleshooting and testing we were doing earlier which you'll see in the review and then we've done the same for the EVGA cooler so that's got the corsair fan on it don't be confused we have swapped the fans these are not the ones that they come with a couple things here these are just kind of protective rubber dampers or cushions we've got some thermal pads here that have moved around a bit and these are these adhering to these are sticking to the backside of the GPU plainly so there's a GPU backside of it so that handles that we can clearly see vram modules to put this on now that we're under the card so VRAM VRAM VRAM capacitors probably MOSFETs inductors right there so that's the card from the backside another thermal pad up here so something fell in a little piece of plastic that was hanging off let's see what that is oh there it is that's like a knot of some kind I don't know what that that was just loose in there I don't know what that was hold him I believe it actually went there was to one of these sitting on the probably one of these two sitting on the inside but let's finish removing the faceplate now one thing just a note these are ATR six so we could remove those but uh I don't know that there's really a reason to do so at this point I think right now we are secured by probably a fan cable yes okay so here's the interesting thing with this card there's a couple things very interesting about it and this is why we are doing this endeavor to begin with because it does seem pretty well engineered from from the face of things so obviously this is not very exciting this is a cable for LEDs it's an RGB LED plate so you got RGB LEDs in here which are there but underneath it we've got a fan that's actually not a blower fan it's not well it's not the radial fan it's actually an axial fan and the blades are inverted from what you might expect so that's pretty interesting there's a heat sink underneath it used to cool the MOSFET components and then over here we've got some extra copper from what would normally be expected I actually wasn't aware of this this changes my hypothesis about what's going on with this which I haven't shared yet just to be clear well we'll share that in the review I'm not sure the hypothesis as to why the cooling difference is what it is so this is covering the vram that is new I have not seen that on any cards this generation or last generation other than things like the fury X which we're very that one was very unique and its implementation and the gigabyte water force card pretty unique implementation for the 1080 series but we don't have one of those in so that's pretty cool we'll look at that more in a moment let's get the cooler off and see if it's it should be 100% identical to the one we've used for our own hybrid mods a few times now with the copper protrusion on the bottom of it and it is an ASA tech cooler just like the Corsair one is an AZ tech cooler but coarser is using at age 55 built for CPUs but they've modified at this generation so the bottom is flat which is good as I discussed so both Ace attack cooled but in theory this one is the one with the protruded copper plate which we'll find out in a moment for the cold blade alright very interesting so as stated there's your VRAM thermal pads and that obviously covers the vram modules looks like we've got a thermal paste on one side of that that's on the table now that's nice I don't have any things you grab me alright together good coverage here you can see that basically the throne pace is considerably less thick in the center so that's what we want to see that was not necessarily the case on the Seahawk when I took that one apart that one did not have as much either pressure or just contact with the silicon but obviously worked quite well because it was in the 18 ish degrees range Delta when we did the thermal tests and here so here's the bit I'm interested in see that compound to contact there we look here very plainly these were meant to be connected to one another so if it's not obvious it would look as if the vram is sinking into the thermal pads into this copper plate copper plates making contact through Tim a very good contact actually with the bottom of the cold plate and that would theoretically heat up the cold plate at least in the parameter and depending on on what the micro fins look like inside that transfer should be in done in such a way that the vram is dissipating some of its heat through the pump and that is the unique aspect of this that we have not seen in previous generations well it's actually pretty exciting discovery okay so here's what we've got that I've explained that I've explained in a few different videos these communicate with one another to the GPU of the GPU quite clearly is AGP 104 - 400 chip it is a 1080 that is what alternators are and it's an a1 Rev the next bit this secures the tubes that's all it does or the hoses and really nothing else this is the face plate a face plate has a little shroud here around the fan to help it focus its air so it's pulling air out that's the interesting bit this is inverted as I said pulling air out away from the MOSFETs I'll have to take that off suppose and actually look at the MOSFETs which I'd really prefer not to do but but we're going to memory it's the same micron gddr5 X as we've seen before we've got eight gigabit chips modules so a total of eight gigabytes because there are eight modules and then we've got capacitors like crazy ton of inductors or chokes if you prefer that terminology and the MOSFETs are under here and we've got a couple phases it looks like potentially from memory backside I don't particularly see anything special other than this IC here but we'll talk about that separately in another video so let's take the fan part of this apart that's very easy looks like aluminum here black painted aluminum we've got a thermal pad here big one and that contacts with the MOSFETs and then the sink itself is just aluminum finned heat sink the cables that's the cable going into the PWM on the board that powers both the fan and the pump so that's that covers our power I'm not gonna take the fan off in the real point the MOSFETs are there are a lot what do we have here four phases but we wrote an article a while ago that covers that and then in the review I'll discuss it more directly once I have a chance to look at it off camera but just looking at it obviously very simplistically there's 12 and doctors here we've got a couple more littered across the board for the memory the vram phases so that's the PCB the basics the cooling I've pretty thoroughly described but we will have a complete detailed video with the review I've got to figure out if we wanted to do thermal analysis separately or not by the time this goes up it'll all be within hours of publication so be sure to subscribe if you haven't so that you can see those videos as they go live it will be a very interesting duel between the Corsair unit and the EVGA unit especially in when I say Corsair I mean Corsair and msi the Seahawk X or the Corsair hydrographic same thing so I'm going to put this on here and we're not gonna bother doing a separate video for it just gonna do it see how it works and then we'll we'll have our answer as to why the performance is the way it is but yeah as always subscribe patron like a postal video to help us out directly thank you for watching and we'll see you all next time