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EVGA RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN Tear-Down, Ft. TiN & Kingpin

2019-03-25
alright so we have here we're still at EVGA and although this video might go up later so depending when you hear me say well we're still at EVGA you might think that we've been here for like two weeks now but actually just filmed a lot of videos back-to-back this is the kingpin 20 atti we saw this at CES and this is a pre-production model but it's pretty close to production there's a few changes I'll point out as we go before that this video is brought to you by the mass drop and hi-fi man he4 xx planar magnetic headphones the he4 XX headphones focus on high quality audio listening experiences with comfortable foam cushions for the ear cups comfort is also ensured with a leather covered spring steel headband allowing flexibility and durability against bends these headphones are capable of delivering big sound for audio files while being positioned competitively in price learn more at the link in the description below so this we're gonna disassemble today and primarily look at the cooling solution faceplate I think as mostly fine at this point is this as metally said this actual the shroud is metal and we have large is like a 100 millimeter fan or a 93 or something like that so large erm thin and on the backside just normal backplate some exposure to capacitors back there in the top this is actually an OLED display so we have some other shots of this running and on a bench so you can see readouts for the voltages temperature stuff like that pretty useful and also clears out onto pots so you can leave that on there and still run the card with modified cooling but this is the stock cooler and if it's not in the shot yet I'll bring it in this cooler itself is a 240 milliliter CLC so it's an ace attack CLC it's a Gen 6 pump we've disassembled Gen 6 pumps in the past and can maybe splice some footage in and editing so the Gen 6 pump has a metal impeller it's shaped a bit differently from the Gen 4.5 and 5 pumps impellers where they use that yellow plastic three-pronged impeller so in powder quality is much higher in Gen 6 Gen 6 from a performance standpoint we haven't really seen much thermal difference but from a a permeation standpoint is supposed to be a bit better so that's a newer ASA tech pump 240 CLC radiator and then two of the UGA fans they are not the same as the EVGA CLC 240 fans where it's got the cut out on the side so it's closed in fan and also this time unlike some of the hybrid cards in the past that EVGA has done you will be able to control the fan speeds so fan speed is is controllable this time which is helpful for noise levels so we got the the four screws out for it there's sprain retention spring tension screws for the cooler on top of the GPU and that's gonna secure the the cold plate to it we'll have to take the back plate off and see if there's any other screws hiding under there although I do have kingpin and tin sitting next to me we're gonna do this as if I were doing it in the studio without on the outside help so I'm gonna have to reveal this for myself and see what's underneath the back plate and on the the cooler side of things so Jenn the Jenn six pump having direct control of the fan is probably the biggest change versus previous hybrid cards we've looked at I guess I'll point out as Vince noted it aside from silence is helpful for performance as well because you can blast the fans beat instead and then this this screw is part of the pre-production that's not going to be a different-colored screw in the final model so let's see up in this corner here we have a header that I can show off to so let's rotate she's a pro bit header and BIOS which right here is this dual or triple triple BIOS triple BIOS up there and you'll be able to download different the BIOS revisions if you want to online is the is this a debug led up here a little power and also 1.8 damn trouble okay so a troubleshooting LEDs three pin or three eight pin connectors evbot header fan header all right there and is there going to be a USB yes okay so there will be a micro B USB once the card is is finished it's another one of the pre-production differences so there'll be three dip switches here for a load line V droop and what's the other one what's the third it's different settings for vrm okay guys one is for memory one is for view oh I see yeah ma'am now in GPO okay cool so a lot of thermal pads on there you are correct okay so throw pads backside that's kind of an interesting touch the white out around the back the GPU does that final - yeah that's kind of cool actually any functional reason or just because it looks different which goes fixture on top and bottom okay okay so there's a reason for this white square here but we can't talk about it uh-huh alright so there's the back of the PCB there's a one shunt resistor back here and then I think we're free to take apart the front of the car - because I can feel that it's loose so if this is like the other EVGA cards then it should just be the four screws holding and the yep holding in the CLC cold plate and we don't need to take this cold plate apart today but we've done it before so if you do want to see actually we can just cut in some some footage to have a Gen 6 disassembly it's they're all pretty much the same although this cold plate is is modified so EVGA has got protruding cold plate here which was done on the previous hybrid cards as well we actually did test previously where we swapped cold plates on coolers and it does it does actually help on GP cooling to have the protrusion I'm assuming you saw the same results it helps with thermals because so when we were speaking with one of our contacts ages ago the flat cold plates that are used for CPUs traditionally have a slight bend to them they're slightly concave I think it is and so going with a protrusion EVGA can use a flatter plate for GPUs because they don't have an IHS that's got a curve to it so that's the primary difference for those does this will this card come with the kingpin paste on it no okay so this is just a production or a testing pace will have standard paste on it and then the interesting part here we're getting to now so here's the memory plate and we've seen this before as well on a lot of different cards including the hybrids but this is just a copper plate that is going to be connected by a thermal paste to the cooler so you can see some thermal paste on the edges here around the protrusion on the cold plate and that's what's making contact the memory plate so it's a copper memory plate and then that's I think this should be free yes this is free as well and this is the cold plate for the memory I believe one of the other pre-production secrets is that there's a screw in the thermal pad so as this vents or was this 10:10 so this is clearly not that's clearly not final although the indentation in the thermal pad probably is final so that comes off this is just just to be clear here this is just what happens when you're working in a development environment taking stuff apart all the time I'm sure tin has screws hidden in all kinds of other thermal pads throughout the lab I probably just hiding them from kingpin so it doesn't take his screws so there's the plate for the memory the idea here is as we've explained before is it's you've got a protruding copper plate coming down and we're getting getting getting is this is this a common problem so the cold plate comes down contacts the memory and you're sharing thermal solutions so technically the memory sinking into the same plate as ultimately the GPU is going to raise the GPU temperature a little bit but it's a balancing act of do you want to cool the the memory with a bit more do you want to be a bit more serious with your memory coin because if the losses from sharing a thermal solution are less than the gains from pulling the memory of it better than it's obviously worth it so in this instance I believe kingpin was saying that in testing there wasn't really any difference in clocks sharing the plate versus not I saw better performance it's not better performance on the memory side sharing the GPU decrease in performance not you right so yeah so better cane pin saw better force on the memory side with sharing the solution than the loss from not sharing the solution and this right here I should know this will be copper plated as well so this is a pre-production artifact but aluminum heatsink will be copper plated aluminum heatsink that is copper plated currently these look the same at the end of things and GPU die these are going to be hand selected for the kingpin cards and then the vrm is under this which we need to take off still so let's let's remove that I'm not sure if I already freed it or not but there it's disconnect to the fans we have two headers one for the I suppose pump and fan control and then one for the vrm fan and this should be loose probably yes it is loose okay just have all the inductors come off with it yes so the reason that took some force is because as EVGA does they went crazy with their own pads ever ever since the icx cards came out it's been thrown pads everywhere inductors to film that everything's a bat I looked over you to see if it was darling like no reaction usually just this one give a warning it sounds like the t-rex it's a pressure release to deplete all the oxygen from the step so this is a very very busy half of the PCB so are all the components final at this point okay MPs 1814 is that what that is a MP eighty six nine five nine nine five six okay MP eighty six nine five six okay so it's a sixty M power stage we can have maybe have build Zoid doing analysis of this as well so yeah there's PCBs both off the last heatsink and there's the other half of the via ROM and this heat sink will will change I have a question for you does the supplier of these components put the dot on it or yeah that's me that means it's pre-programmed to the firmware so essentially these are digital controllers and when you give them the image to flashing to chip they will do that out of the board and then supply the components to the assembly house and then they will put all the components on there yeah okay cool the reason for that is you want to have different colors because they're firmer can be different but cheap will look the same the model member is the same so you don't confuse the assembly house right makes sense cool sometimes they are like labels like the small sticker would they like Gaussian number or stuff like that on the bigger chips Maria all right so that's the the kingpin Edition 20 atti and we're more looking at the disassembly process and the cooler today but I guess we'll get some photos and some of them over to build to it as well he can do a full video on the vrm side of things because that's his domain so that's it for this one check back for more as always thanks for watching subscribe for more patreon.com slash gamers Nexus or store documents Nexus 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