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EVGA Torq X10 Carbon Mouse Tear-Down

2016-10-02
everyone today we're doing a mouse tear down or something a bit different if you have been a fan or subscriber of the channel or read the website for a couple years you've seen us do this before I did this with the g700 from Logitech some years ago and I believe those 2013 Mouse have not done it since then so today we're taking apart this one this is an EVGA Torx mouse or torque I suppose it's called T orq torque x10 so this is the x10 carbon I haven't actually used this properly we're just going to take it apart and see what's going on underneath so the mouse does use in a vago sensor it is an a DNS 9800 sensor that was very standard a couple years ago these days a lot of the mice are moving towards the EMW 3366 and there's also a split towards split between optical and laser so for the x10 they use a laser sensor that's the adns 9800 avago is the tech company that makes that and then for their x5 EVGA is using a pic start sensor which logitech showed us a couple years ago as well and it's fairly popular then but industry's changed a bit there's been innovation and advancement in sensors so this is something we're going to take apart mice are difficult to work with any doing a teardown because there's a good chance it doesn't go back together quite the same way even if it all works at the end these Teflon feet are a nightmare because they are I mean once you take them off and there's screws hidden under there almost one hundred percent of the time once you take them off they don't really go back on quite the same way so this is not something I recommend doing to your mouse if it's something that you want to use in perfect order at the end but let's get down to it so the x10 has no visible screws other than this one this is a screw that allows some kind of minimal level of adjustment of the mouse itself it's got a metal frame on the underside or just a metal chassis and then the body on this particular model is actually legitimately carbon right here anyway this is plastic but this is actually carbon fiber so that's normally when they label something carbon these companies it's not actually carbon it's just a sticker that's real carbon fiber the house is still one of the heavier ones on the market for current day it's 120 something grams without weights added we've got a pack of weights that mermaid out to like 137 or something without the cable and then for perspective some of the newer mais coming out are around 100 grams or 110 grams so this is marginally heavier but let's let's figure out how to take it apart so I am I think we'll just start by peeling these feet off I don't know if that has to come out or not but we can definitely take it out just to see what happens I've been warned by Jacob of the EVGA that this is somewhat difficult to tear down so we will see how long the process takes so you can see kind of the whole thing change when I do this so that visible so that screw doesn't completely come out but you get the idea that is not what we are after though but I will leave it on screwed just in case I think what we're going to have to do is peel these feet off so these are technically polytetrafluoroethylene feet commonly known and I think it just cut part of it in half teflon that's the sort of brand name but polytetrafluoroethylene is the generic name that's what these are we actually do it back up kid of these that was included with the mouse I don't know if that's only the carbon or what the mouse by the way is a fifty-dollar mouth these days it's a bit cheaper than what it shipped but these are the spare feet so if your mouse doesn't come with these and you want to do this project there are actually websites out there where people will cut teflon to spec of a mouse and sell it to you I've done that before for my mice but there's the first foot ideally we have more of a vinyl to stick this onto I'll stick it on the bag for now hopefully maintain some of the adhesiveness although I don't know that we're going to be using this again after because a lot of its still stuck on there there's our screws let's go ahead and take the other one off while we're at it hey like ninety percent of the adhesive compound is stuck on the mouse itself i bet you there's going to be a screw hidden under that EVGA sticker as well cool huh it's easier than I thought no stickers under there or screws under the sticker rather just for anyone wondering by the way there's no there's no method to what I'm taking out it's just if I see a screw I'm going to remove it so as I've stated before in these videos and in this one this isn't a tutorial don't copy me because you may not go back together quite the same so here's what we've got just from the immediate efforts obviously scroll wheel and then we've got the centered self so that is what's reading the output it's a laser sensor looks at the surface scans an image of it basically sends that image to the CPU inside of here it has an arm 32 bit cpu the CPU looks at the image looks at the next image and determines if there's any spurious motion or if it was an actual intended user input and that's how you get your mouse movement that's how it works so you can see we've got movement there now for both of these so that's released of the screw tension here's the next one let's pull that screw out of the back all right test different size from those oh my gosh these screws so there's here's the price your problem there's a screw and you're not going to be able to see it on the camera there's a screw way down here all the way in that back corner where the screwdriver currently is where is it back in there somewhere I'm not sure if we're meant to get to that now or later okay let's now we can get this out so that bit that's it's like a metal washer that just snapped in half but whatever but again I'm using this masculinity tear about damaging it so this is really an incredibly complex set of mechanics they built under here it's got to be like something hiding somewhere Oh what just happened oh I just pulled it harder okay all right so there's there's something where's the next this that's got to reveal something that's still socketed somehow this is very difficult sub although this screw was in here tensioning it all together or if I check that out all the stuffs are down push that pin out nice this is now separate this all them nicely through right like I don't like how much tension raised yeah I always see I think things so I'd like to get inside of here but I don't know that we're really going to be able to okay well thanks for figuring that much I so i'll talk to you about was week um what's next oh wait i just noticed that this has a tab on it under with that if that's supposed to be accessed oh okay so we found the serial number oh that's a weight cartridge so I guess that should have been obvious that that comes off because you put to your weights in there or four maybe but wait cartridge it looks like there's already weights in there maybe to make it feel like it's higher quality than it is switch LED wheel and then where is everything else here's your actuators you can see that almost looks like a cherry MX style cross plus sign so those plus signs just like when interacting with the cross points on the cherry MX which is those actuate down into there in there and hit the switch which we'll look at in a moment but we've got a couple more screws we can get now not quite sure what that did those are magnets okay so before I pull pry that up there's more screws here okay so that separates pretty easily there's your separated lever now not even a button because it doesn't interact with anything you've got the pluses down here for actuating the switch and there's your diodes if your light emitting diodes that bleed light through these acrylic tubes which is what gives you the LED effect on the top it's not RGB but it's got r g and b colors in it and also a couple others orange pink yellow so from here we've got these switches that's the DPI up down and they are whatever they made by ttc actually the PCB zoom level so it's a couple PCBs in this mouse there's at least one here for the DPI and led logic there's a PCB over here with actually a vertical one for the scroll wheel PCB over here and over here they are separate this is where all of the the USB is coming in USB power data so I'll talk into this board and their buttons for the actual lmb RMB it is omron switches you can see those right there the sort of clear colored plastic white clear plastic that is an armor on switch rated for 20 million clicks it's not there 10 billion click model which we can tell by looking at it the switch for the scroll wheel if you're curious when you push the scroll wheel you know you have middle mouse button or MMB that depresses this tube onto the switch that's within this black housing so that's how the middle mouse button works now we're attached to be a cable two cables one cable okay that looks like it's dealing with the click input coming in that's what this cable was routed here so there's your cable that was this cable this bigger cable talks to the encoder which is talking to the sensor here so they're communicating by that cable I don't think there's anything else to see in this part this main part of the mouse I think we're done with at this point so we've exposed all there is to see there the next part of the mouse now we're down to the sensor now we know their trick now we know EVGA really likes prying things apart it's not all just screws I thought it was a much more elegant solution that it was not to say it's bad because I mean why would you ever access this once it's built so just clip it in but I was looking for screws and things like that when clearly that was not the thing to look for I believe these are ttc switches as well so left and right right there you can see that the black box has another tiny white switch in it that's what's actuated move all the cables out of the way and now we can see the sensor with the a logo on it above my thumb that's the avago sensor and it is in fact an 80 80 and s a 9800 sensor where's the rest of that thing so there's that's what's reading through right there is the 80 and s 9800 going through that side with laser so this is actually a pretty complex mouse in terms of its build not necessarily saying it's good or bad but just PCBs alone some of the high and logitech mice for PCB is fairly complex 44 mouse this one you've got one here kind of one main unit with the power and data obviously another one to host the switches over there and then several boards in here one is the main sensor PCB you've got to side ancillary ones for the side button inputs I think that's pretty much it I think we've seen all that there really is to see for this mouse I don't know if it'll ever go back together that was a huge panda yes but that is maybe minimally you can end up in kind of a display in the case or something in the future if we expand but that's what we've got for all the parts they kind of vaguely go like this this is in here somewhere as well there is the key plate there's that so the way this key plates designed right here when it pushes down on the buttons it's kind of a it's not always a linear force all the way up and down the plate that's just how they designed the mouse hat it's easier to press towards the end then up here that's not the case with some of the higher-end device but overall not a bad design I haven't used it ultimately at the end of the day all that matters is what you think of it in gaming this wasn't something we were really planning to use because frankly there's no time to review scheduled for this mouse which is now more than a year old i believe but build quality is kind of neat just to see how it's all put together very complex so that's the EVGA whatever it's called that's the EVGA torque x 10 carbon mouse tore it down spent on the market for a while its forty or fifty dollar mouse I can't say if I'd recommend it or not but because it's a really personal preference thing haven't really used it but we took it apart and it's kind of cool so if you're interested in I guess looking more into it I'll put it length ascription below that will be an affiliate link otherwise we keep getting questions about the tools used during these and I ignore Lee reply in the comments but I'll just go ahead and put a link in the description for the tool sets used as well if you are curious I fix it to not sponsor these videos but they did provide the tools and they're an upgrade over what we were using so I'm happy to recommend them all that stuff's in the link but patriotic emotional video how was not directly thanks for watching as always tweet the set Jacob at EVGA or something let them know that we immediately destroyed the mouse that he sent yeah I'll see you all next time you
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