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Electronics We Got in China & Taiwan, ft. Intel Tools & Bare Kingpin PCB

2019-03-29
everyone so we got back from our trip to Taiwan and China and we took some time in visiting some of the manufacturers to ask for things that they no longer needed and that brought us some pretty cool stuff like this it's a keep-out gauge for motherboard stuff that you don't normally see so we go through some of the stuff that vendors gave us and that we bought in the Shenzhen s e-g the market in watchon Bay where we picked up things like for example this cooler for about $2 u.s. so we're gonna go over all the stuff we got in Asia today when we were there for two weeks before that this video is brought to you by EVGA SZ 390 dark motherboard the Z 390 dark is a flagship motherboard for intel's unlocked case q CPUs with tuning done by overclocked engineering team at kingpin and 10 to enable higher memory and CPU frequencies the motherboard uses a unique rotated socket design to move EPS 12-volt cables to the right side making cable management easier and also sticks to two DIMM slots to improve memory overclocking stability and Headroom we previously analyzed the BRM and full and found it among the best in class 4 z 390 overclocking and it also got rid of RGB LEDs learn more at the link in the description below before we get into the specifics of what we bought we wanted to show you a clip of where we bought it at the Shenzhen electronics market the SE g e market in watchon bay in shenzhen china and walk through just just part of the first floor of that market to explain how massive the environment is for electronics there so the first thing we saw here is just a bunch of external cases so like shells for batteries and I think especially just I don't know just all kinds of random external housing and then there's PCBs here so I think they actually do power supplies you get a power supply made so I mean it says right here ECU ICS so you get a printed circuit board done I think they go to someone else for the printed circuit board I'm not sure and next to this stall but unrelated is just all of the RGB lots of RGB LEDs we're still in the first floor right now other than the LEDs there's like power switches so you could come here and build your own custom devices like put together get a circuit board printed there's 12 hours circuit board printing services that we walk past so you can buy small SMDs and from in thye the real even so you can put them on like service mount machines SMT lines buy them by the reel get a custom circuit board printed and then you come through here and buy things like speakers or power switches or all these various buttons LEDs adapters cables and get it all made on one floor for custom PCB design from scratch just all through the Shenzhen s e-g market leading off of that topic then for example if you had a kingpin PCB you could buy all the parts needed to make a kingpin card before he even comes out with the real product and that'll lead us to the first thing we wanted to talk about that we got in Taiwan when we visited EVGA s headquarters in Taipei so let's start with this this is a 20 80 TI kingpin board and this actually clearly has no no SM DS on it yet it all doesn't even have a GPU on it this is a pre-production sample where 10 and kingpin or Vince and Ilya they gave us this as a I guess commemoration of their product that's not yet out it'll be out end of March I think but anyway it's just kind of cool to see the bare PCB like that we have other stuff like this - I'll grab one of them so we have a semi populated MSI 780ti Lightning where the vrm is on there but no GPU dough memory and none of the expensive stuff and then we also have an msi from previously x3 99 creation and this is actually just a bare PCB that's so much they came thin card we got so anyway King band card looks really cool without any stuff on it it's got the gold plating on it theoretically better or easier to access grounding and this is something well about more soon as the product actually comes to launch and also while we were visiting them know by the way build Zords working on a vrm breakdown of this car - with the components on it but also while we were visiting penpen we got his first sample of the icon ellentube pot so that's what this is this is a liquid nitrogen pot it is four GPUs and you can tell that it's got a wider contact area so for the big die GPU taurine cards this would be mounted to those we hope to use it soon not sure what will try it on it might try it on a lower-end card first just in case something goes wrong my end but you can see all the holes internally for increased surface area so that's something that Vince worked on getting custom made is increasing service area he increased the contact area for the GPU die and then for the rest still has the kingpin cooling logo on it and the gun which I'm told that this gun gets Vince a lot of trouble with this product because customs looks at them and thinks that their gun parts but they're not they're liquid nitrogen pots and clearly everyone knows the difference so that's some of the stuff we got from EVGA we also got a few things from MSI so these are from MSI they are gauges for keep out zones there's a keep out zone on motherboards where parts aren't supposed to go and the point of that keep out zone just like on a GPU is to ensure that there is no componentry where you're gonna have a cooler so these are older they didn't need them anymore hence giving them to us and this is an LGA 1156 this is 2011 LGA and either of these are meant for this board but the way it works is if you have a board that it is meant for you've got the pins on there and these just socket into the holes so if there's a thread ripper one but it would sock it into the holes and then you can check if any components on the diagram would fall inside of the keep out zone and if they do then you know that there's a problem and it needs to be redesigned to make sure all the coolers can fit so for these examples keep zones a bit wider as opposed to the really densely packed dims on a TR socket board and these are just used in design they we asked them you know why is this one bigger and there was really no answer for it because the keypad zone is strictly on the the flat plane it's it's not a vertical thing so it's just that's just how Intel made them but anyway some cool stuff you don't typically get to see you can see that it kind of follows the shape of the Intel stock cooler it's got the pegs to go in the holes mount it and then make sure all the components clear and that's how you determine if your motherboard will be compliant with the average CPU cooler so just some kind of behind the scenes stuff not not something you can really buy let's look at some of the stuff we bought next so this is a I don't remember the exact brand name I I want to say it was home sure and technically this motherboard is branded by a different company it's I asked them for motherboard box and this is all they had so this is not the same as the company that makes the board but I will draw your attention to the fact that it says it supports the Intel Core 2 Duo the Core 2 quad and the Athlon x2 and the phenom x4 and it has an Intel chipset apparently it also allegedly supports DDR one two and three so whatever this motherboard was really I want this one but I think they probably just threw everything on the box so then maybe put a sticker over the ones that weren't relevant maybe anyway let's look at the actual board it's it's just a Mac 79 board it was cheap we picked this up at s e-g watchon Bay and in the Shenzhen and I sort of negotiated with them over it a little bit but it's just a cheap x79 board from a brand we're not personally familiar with I'm not familiar with and we'll try it out and see you know how how good the board is we have some other x79 projects going on right now so this will fit in with those and we can just plug the same CPUs right into the board but anyway it's a that's really all there was to it I think it was about maybe $50 u.s. so it was between 40 and 60 for this and think they wanted like 60 to 70 I negotiated a bit got them to like 40 or 50 somewhere in there and that's all I mean it just comes with an IO plate and the motherboard and that's it and the BIOS should have an English version as well all the characters on the board are our romanized characters so we should be good there I bought this from the same shop so this is a downdraft CPU cooler and this was about two or three US dollars after the conversion so this is one of the cheaper things you could get and the brand is yaku and it actually looks very similar to some of the other downdraft coolers we have can't remember Rajyam tech I think we have a downdraft rise in tech cooler that looks very similar to this but anyway it's in theory a copper heatsink maybe copper plated though I can't tell but it might be copper plated aluminum I'm not sure but copper heat sink in theory with the a or actually with an aluminum coldplay okay while that answers that question so I think it's actually that's an aluminum cold plate for sure and I'm now confident it's an aluminum heatsink you spotted hiss but for two or three bucks who cares we'll see how good it is this is a I think we have the the fit the hardware to mount this on to modern intel and AMD sockets so we can get it on any one of our CPUs and motherboards this next one I negotiated on a little harder so this was on the second or third floor of s e-g the e market and it's obviously it's just like a GoPro competitor and it even actually uses a it uses genuine GoPro mounting hardware so I have a hero 5 or I think I have a hero 5 and a hero 4 for that I use for mountain biking so my plan is to stick one of those high end hero GoPro products I'm on my helmet stick one of these on Mohammed a couple runs and see how they footage compares to the supposed to be 4k the shopkeeper showed me this versus another 4k camera they had and all she said was this one 4k good and that one 4k no good so we'll see how good it is this is actually hero to housing I'm pretty confident if if not it's very close cuz I had a hero too and it worked about exactly like this so it's got the airtight gasket here I mean it's it's like a it's real product for sure it's not that much of a fake but there's a gasket that will keep out the water if you were to submerge it so let's see if this is a GoPro standard battery no it is not but it is a 900 milliamp hour battery we can get a shot of that and show the specs three point three point three three watt hours 900 milliamp hours three point seven volt lithium-ion battery so I guess we'll see I'll give this a shot on one of the bike runs and compared verses the GoPro cameras that I have compared against the hero 2 or something as well I negotiated pretty hard on this like I said so we got the camera and the stupid SmartWatch I didn't particularly want but we got both of these for cheap dishes son by Sansa ok well my my Ichi sir bye sure ok only this one then only sunbae sunbae ok so bye sheriff took a she wanted 330 RMB for the camera I don't remember exactly that can will put the conversion on the screen or something but 330 RMB for the camera and then she wanted like 200 rmb for the watch and I think with my broken Chinese and her broken English we came to an agreement to do 450 for both so anyway this is 150 bucks we also I guess I'll show this we had a enough tea from one of the factory owners that it could probably have gotten us in trouble for smuggling or something because he gave us here's a lot but I guess one of the factory owners also owns a tea company that makes tea from Taiwan I don't know he was based in China the tea comes from Taiwan I know nothing about tea I believe Keegan is our resident expert there so he's gonna try it out and see if it's any good but we had some while we were visiting the factories and by my untrained taste buds it was pretty good so there's the brand but this was just given to us sure you can buy it it was as a thank you for visiting their Factory they were a it's one of the factory presidents that we spoke with and I think from the neighboring factories Coolermaster gave us this stuff so this is a CNC GM logo on the cooler master badge with cooler master written on the back of course so that was just made out of CNC just kind of a demo to show how the CNCs work but we can drop some footage in of one of the CNC machines here and then they also gave us one of these which is a bent heat pipe I actually technically made this one in that we were given straight heat pipes we were given the bending tool and then shown how heat pipe bending actually works and we have a separate video showing the entire start to finish process of how heat pipe right so that's kind of cool to picked up these maybe copper heat sinks they're like memories GDD are sighs heat sinks so we bought some of these and it's just really to have around for video card mods and also I wasted a bunch of their time asking about how much stuff cost that I wanted to buy something so the shop that I bought these from told them I wanted 12 and they sort of laughed because these shops are used to working with order quantities on the tens of thousands or at least thousands for projects locally so you can go to watch on BAE s e-g and buy all the parts you need to make a we'll get to these in a moment to make a phone if you wanted to you can get all the SMD is there and everything and speaking of phones this is one of the ones from a a real brand so this is from Oppo and Oppo I believe owns oneplus so it's a brand that you're likely familiar with the phone is a legitimate phone but it was cheap and so that's why I picked it up just to see what it was what's you know what's kind of the quality level what is it compared to because in that marketplace you can get phones knockoff were legitimate like this one is is a real brand for pretty cheap and this one I think the guy wanted 100 USD originally and I ended up buying this for somewhere between I think it was about 70 70 to 80 somewhere in there it's not really a big discount but picked up the phone we've got some software we can test on it so we do some oh nice got that boot up music so we have some software to play around with it needs to be configured and everything it can be set to English or Chinese so we should be good there but either way we have some uses for it internally with our test hardware and that's the phone we picked up from the same shop I got this which is not a Bose speaker so of course when I opened my wallet to pay for the phone the shopkeeper saw and these are like small stalls in the place saw my wallet was loaded with money because we had just visited Hong and Taiwan and so I had all different currencies in there and he said oh you have you have much money and I said no I really really don't and so that he pulled out this speaker and the fun thing about this speaker is in the back of the stall they had a heat gun and there was another another person working in the back of the stall heat treating logos on two different products so he was even heat treating like Apple logos on to Oppo phones for example we're on to just other brand phones and Samsung logos and so this was a Bose logo that is heat treated on - and glued on to this speaker which is not a legitimate po speaker but it is actually very good there's no point in us trying to demo it because it be through a microphone but pretty good I forget what I paid for this but it was not a lot and we got that with the phone these things are pretty cool so we saw on the tenth floor the final floor of SE g e market there was a game store and i actually i did not try to haggle with this store at all they seemed pretty established it was it was a less of like a flea market stall which is kind of like the format of that place and more of an actual shop so I didn't try haggling at all I just paid the prices and they were low anyway I think I think this was like 80 RMB this where this was 80 RMDs was like 10 to 12 dollars and this was maybe like $18 u.s. something like that so it's got 621 games in it obviously these are SNES controllers so and they're they're pretty damn close to SNES controllers at that materials are a little bit different but the controller itself is the same design and what we were wondering the reason Andrew and I bought this is because we're wondering if this device here surpasses the quality of the classic the SNES classic and NES classic that Nintendo recently made so we're curious if it surpasses the quality of those it more games and they're not fake games either I mean they're real Nintendo games like Super Mario is on here along with 620 other games and they're just roms they're just roms that were burned onto the device you can play them with an SNES controller plugged into it and it was super cheap and so we figured it might be kind of fun to play around with so we'll test that in a maybe a future content piece but I think does it have a product name super many SFC name of the product and we'll try that out separately but pretty cool it was cheap the next one I played on the plane on the way home for a little bit for as long as I can tolerate it this one's 129 games 8-bit 2.4 inch screen 2 lithium-ion battery in there it's actually a phone battery and this is I think by the same company I'm not positive on that though but it's it's just a game but I look like boots instantly we'll get some b-roll this it's got Super Mario I'm there it's got other get a ninja turtles on there all four of these I think NES or SNES Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle games and as stated it's just a straight Wow just to see I'm not any better on this then the other just a straight ROM so that was the one I was like 10 to 12 bucks other stuff small things we got so SmartWatch I'm not a really a watch person but we got it relatively cheap with the camera and this one has the ability to add a SIM card it can connect the phones I'm gonna try it out use it biking as well because I can play music off the speakers in the watch that's kind of nice get a little closer to my head and then I can run like Strava on it or something so we'll try that out see if it's any good but there's very much one of those like you know why not we're here and it's cheap so we walked by this and the guy selling it saw that andrew is shooting it with the sony camera and the guy got my attention and I respected that respected that hustle so we bought it I think this is a 32 gigabyte USB 2 it's Kingston DataTraveler and what he did we have some footage of it but he in the market tour he just takes the USB key and sticks it into the rubber mold and there's your there's your novelty USB the housing with the USB device in it I don't know that we'll actually use these I will scrub them for security reasons first if we do but the main point was to show that you could if you wanted by tens of thousands of lilo and stitch or Donald Duck or whatever other brand or character USB drives you want and it's I mean it's it's not policed at all so clearly this is not okay within US copyright or intellectual property laws but not really a problem in SE GE market which is also it's good and bad the the good side is that you get things like really cheap competitive phones that are actually pretty good and and then the bad side is that if you actually have intellectual property that you want to defend it's basically impossible to do so so that's the stuff we bought some really cool stuff some kind of lame stuff just depends the gifts were I think more interesting like this keep out zone mounts or gauges the kingpin blank PCB is really cool and then the Allen teapots actually very functional that's everything we got them that's what we got in China and in Taiwan we were in both for about a week each we'll be back for Computex will be back in May early June and we'll try and pick up some more stuff but it was just kind of fun it's it's really genuinely fun to walk around a place where there's a 10-story electronics market filled with things like if you want it meters upon meter like hundreds of meters of RGB LEDs you can get thousands of SM D's on wheels so you can get like BIOS chips on wheels buy 10,000 units if you want and it's just cool to see which is really why we want because where we are there the only electronic store is Best Buy which doesn't count and we don't need have Fry's or micro Center and then this place is still bigger than fries and micro Center and it's way cooler stuff it's just more interesting now on the component side a lot of the motherboards and the video cards are older a lot of people think that if you go to china video cards or motherboards would be cheaper because it's the closest to the source it's made there but actually in reality it's typically a bit more expensive to buy the full complete modern components in China or Taiwan and it's really where it gets interesting or where you can get cheaper parts and stuff like this or stuff like x79 motherboards are really cheap right now over in Asia we saw a lot of those for for dirt cheap and they're pretty good boards too and then older video cards are also not too bad so so a lot of the modern components like r-tx stuff it's not cheaper but then you get into things like peripherals and a lot of the margins cut out you get peripherals pretty cheap and you just get random things that you couldn't buy in the US - so that's it for this one thank you for watching as always subscribe for more go to patreon.com/scishow kandra's and access to help fund a future purchases of things like this and I'll see you all next time
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