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this is an enter max closest liquid cooler that we reviewed for thread Ripper and we've gotten a lot of reports recently just specifically in the last couple of months that people who bought these are having issues with corrosion or just kind of gross bacteria growing in the loop which is clearly not supposed to happen but we reviewed these and they performed pretty damn well the Knox wet air coolers were highly competitive but once you noise normalized for a 40 DBA or something the liquid coolers were on top for thread Ripper and they were also the first liquid coolers closed-loop available for thread Ripper which made them a compelling buy but one year later a lot of reports suddenly have come out of just users facing issues with the loop effectively dying so today we're gonna open up the two that we have and see if it's happened to ours and then try and figure out what we can learn from that before that this video is brought to you by Emma sighs RR t x 27 t gaming Z 8 gigabyte card 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up so this kind of gonna suck because there's thermal paste jams and all of the Torx head screws but let's get started fortunately from the photos I've seen you all send us on Twitter it looks like most of the issue can be discovered here so I don't think we have to get into the radiator but my understanding presently is that NR max has mixed metals which isn't that abnormal for these but has also not added a biocide or and maybe not enough of it okay so we're gonna start with these fill caps because if there's gross stuff in there I want to control empty in it not empty it all over my hands and if you want the service I'm working on this is the medium mod mat underneath it it's the large mod mat so on stored out gamers nexus net you can pick those up they are finally just about back in stock at this point and they'll be shipping out within a couple of days so that's on stored Akira's access dotnet if you want the work surface to protect your table from things like algae and bacterial growth or thermal paste is the more more intended use case wow that's freaking gross immediately that thing right there and that and all that stuff that was not in this bucket until I emptied in part of this there's not a lot of it yet but that's super nasty though that came out yes smells like a food court at an abandoned mall definitely some junk in there wow that's pretty fast oh yeah there you go check out the rim we're like the gasket was it's not as bad as some of the ones I've seen online I should know this one hasn't been in use at all since the review so this is probably I don't know if that makes it a best case for a worst case but we do have another one that's been in use more frequently so yeah there's just some it looks like just corrosion discoloration maybe from the copper that's kind of plated this plastic surface that's kind of not great and then there's like floating stuff in there but not a lot of it not as much as I've seen from some of you online and the gaskets really nasty too like that gasket should not look like that at all just the next question is how does the cold blade itself look and that's got some gross gunk in it too and you can see corrosion there at the edge so that is suboptimal oh yeah there's a whole bunch of gunk on this side it took me a second to see it there's a layer of stuff that's just like the that's significant because it's not a lot of it but it's all in front of the microphones and the water flows through these to cool it so that's not great to see still not as bad as some of the ones online that's just a nameplate there's the impeller and pellet is actually not bad it's not really anything in there and here's a gasket also not bad some dust on it what shouldn't really happen but not terrible also it seems the issue was rather limited on ours but we do have another one we can look at I guess okay so this one's actually been in use the other one that really hasn't been so I guess we'll find out with our small sample size it's the worst for it to have been in use or not the worst of it was it was sort of down here in the cold place so we'll just take this off straight away this time okay also kinda gross wow that one's actually a little worse on the top can you see that in there oh you know what this is the one I took apart previously and what I did with this one was I refilled most of the coolant that came with it and then whatever I couldn't refill I topped off with ek cry of fuel and biocide so the fact that this one's got anything in there it's probably residue from the gasket itself I wonder if it's the gasket that's deteriorating and then getting colored by the copper or something but this one if it's in better shape it's because I was the last one to touch it and as you can see by the color of the coolant I filled it with distilled water and I believe cryo fuel and a biocide so that would explain why this one isn't as bad as the other one but the residue on top of the cold plate does does make me think that the gasket is deteriorating and that's what's jamming up the micro fins that people are talking about okay so the second ones not so bad the first one is the worst and the discoloration on the cold plate that's a sort of black and green I want to try and scrub that out and see if it's gunk in there or if it's just discoloration and this is AJ's two cents tip I believe he specifically recommends crest white so I can only assume that he's a crest shell we have Colgate I don't think this is gonna work so yeah toothbrush on the block and I guess we'll see if anything comes out of it so I guess if you ever get those toothbrushes from your dentist and you our toothbrush elitist and have a better one you should take them anyway and use them for cleaning liquid cooling parts Patrick don't use this to brush your teeth well there's definitely more stuff floating around in the water so for sure cleaner and some more stuff came out and this bin when we scrubbed it but ours wasn't that bad compared to a lot of the ones you've sent in so thanks for the two cents J a good trick but I guess that's what you want to do if you need to clean it it's not hard to disassemble you've seen that reassembly would be the same process in Reverse you don't need to take the top of the well you might want to take this the impeller out I guess if yours is really gunked-up but if you've seen their all's decline get worse over time with this thing try just taking the the Torx screws out of the cold plate pull it out see if it's bad and you'll just just refill it with distilled water through the fill port on the side of the block housing you can refill it with just a funnel and distilled water and if you want you could add some cryo fuel like EK cryo fuel mixture in there or a couple drops of a biocide or something and that should get you up and running because the 240 that I had taken apart and reassembled previously with distilled water and the biocide I added and that was mostly fine and it looks like just residue from the gasket so anyway that's what you do if you want to maintain it as for the issue we saw a bit of one here but not nearly as bad as the several that have been sent in to us and we've gotten probably like 15 of these photos now which is a lot because most people don't send photos in when they're having issues so apparently this is a known issue in the community we didn't have it as bad here but there is definitely I don't know maybe not enough biocide or something like that in their loop so that's it for this one thank you for watching hopefully that helps you at least clean it and reassemble it you just do it in Reverse subscribe for more go to patreon.com/scishow and axis to get behind-the-scenes videos or store doc here in Texas net to pick up one of our shirts like this one or one of the mod maps like the one I was working on I'll see you all next time you you