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everyone so we're doing overclocking with Joe and Vince and as Vince aka kingpin said it sounds like we're at like a produce it stopped here as long as my name's first Vincent Jose fresh salad before that this video is brought to you by MSI's x57 a motherboard lineup Emma sighs X 570 motherboards will be available on July 7th with the launch of Rison 3000 series CPUs and now include flagship brands like godlike ace and creation the MSI edge will be among the more affordable mid-range motherboards appealing for most rise in 3000 builds while the godlike has more overclocking support an abundance of LEDs and OLED and a server grade PCB for improved PCIe for signal integrity keep an eye out for MSI's X 570 motherboards for the rise in 3000 launch or learn more at the link in the description below this is a pretty janky overclocking setup but it looks like it's gonna work we have we have I guess two pots on the kingpin cards yep right you got one on to pot on a 99 ATX 820 atti kingpin sli using KP c icon GPU ln to pot on the cards and reusing the QC t-rex i'm sube okay so Joe what you were how much were you involved in the setup or were you just slacking doing anything no this guy tinned over here basically kind of ruin the set up several times way too much talking it's not good for you no no alright so let's talk about the setup I guess for you got a KP cards you have a new heater right yep is that on there right now yeah it is a weak weak codenamed it hell fire nice and it works really well it's it's basically approximately 300 watts of heat and it it can counteract all that cold temperature from the ln 2 pi okay very good and I saw it not hooked up to a card earlier so you've got like is it resistors for is this just con the back I believe that 7:00 this configuration has seven on it right now and 10 made a nice PCB that can pretty much it runs at a fixed power whatever power we want it to run it keeps it oh and the goal we should explain Joe we were talking about this so we have some first-hand experience with like water logging the cards basically yes so you want to pre never went up to speed on what was going on why you want a sake hitter well the second heater will help so that there's no condensation on the card so the card will basically run for a lot longer right like when we livestream next time yeah everyone have as many issues right yep no I usually asked him like kind of what what uh voltage is derived like that well he's done all the pre benching right experience and I get it a lot of time he's like just run the cart just do it figured out just tested that so I'll point out first because I didn't do it earlier Joe from bearded hardware has been on our channel several times at this point to light up now yeah yeah if you don't know who Joe is I don't know where you've been but we'll link them below and then Vince here is the the namesake of the 2018 CI teams and that we're working on today so we get to actually see how someone with the real encourage actually does it yeah should be pretty sick so Ellen to what's what's a CPU at right now I'm booting a 5 g 5g booting ok ninety nine eighty exit yeah so what we'll do is we'll boot in the windows and maybe we'll run a time spy extreme CPU test just to make sure in the CPU will play nice maybe find seven five eight okay and if everything's cool then we'll pull the cards down and we'll just go for it nice won't waste a lot of time you know events last time you did a video on this stage you started a meme do you know the you know the significance of your contribution to the internet so every time I do a stream now everyone asks me to get one she's done ski in there really oh yeah no for real it's really is it like ten times at least really like every stat and hit him every day God's goose yeah and I'll say I actually say no she's a she's Gonski Steve I use your name yeah so you're gonna use easy you want to torch that patch oh yeah it's kind of tough with all that ellentube bubbling in there but just do the best you can do I'll just run one quick CPU test then I will overclock the cards and we'll go remember they're switched yeah yeah he doesn't the opposite direction guys used to be difficult him too when I do four way he's like if ia he helps me very rarely but sometimes he does yeah and he's I'll start go to quarter cards and they're all wrong because he does his probes differently everybody has their own honors see the thing is here is actually Vince is doing it the wrong way ten and I do it the right ha right yeah I go I go if I have four cards it would be one two three four so one two three four one two three four that's how I would do they do it backwards to the house wrong Joe has the second card on the top isn't that weird yeah so minus 94 CPU you have minus 52 and somebody come on up cheap years but not really doing GPU stuff yet no not yet we got a mixer systems okay if you can pass this then pull these down a little bit more and we'll go the CPU pot those need to be torched a little bit more the thing is you need the reason why we torch the pots you know that right you guys discussed it yeah but it's good it yours it becomes more conductive thermally so you can get those really fast reactions with the temperature yeah don't don't you don't want the test to end and have the pot full of L into the interpreter goes down it locks you want to have that the balance you need to have it go empty just as the test and yeah look that's a pub right four five seven get it girl ten degrees no let's go okay let's go cards cards like - 100 whoo so we're at 13,704 cpu score on this yeah we'll get some we'll get some scores on the screen from some previous batch runs I've done or something for perspective for people what's your highest CPU score on 99 I definitely anyway I want to say it was like 14 something I think it was like maybe maybe like 14 200 something like that okay well we got this thing's got a boot so let's try and just leave the fucking boot quick she's not ski asleep she's time to eat I don't know yeah Budhan said no I think it's precision I think it's trying to set the clock at 25 oh my gosh try saying that but it's never gonna fucking bear we could try to yank the back card off and try to make it boot that way they call it Tim or something too confusing like does that work like that huh that would be easy man it would be a great solution actually the problem is I set the clock on position before I set the voltage yeah so precision stuck on 2500 and it's trying to boot the card at 2500 and it doesn't have the voltage to run it so it's can't put Windows key do Safe Mode Tim just like uninstall fine but can't access the voltage yeah oh but can you get rid of the tool and of course the card doesn't remember no thinning okay yeah but if you uninstall it does it set to firmware do you want to do like like like 6 gigahertz 99 80 oxy Windows installation [Laughter] to go along with your practical gaming island ooh that's right the restore point is the 24th so it's gonna be nothing we're stuck where we were truly stuck so you can't source is like classified launching whatever one doesn't apply in the settings or is it applied no there are my definite lines both so into place they fight clock but the voltage is too low the trend you can but it's a safe mode adjust timing stop you said onion celery seed that would have been never to work so you can't just like delete the registry or something from safe mode he's a hardware engineer not a software engineers or trust me 10 you see like we could just plug another OS right now I asked them weeks ago what do I need to bring absolutely we got everything we got everything to city would go by now try and be so that we did not need an incision about time he did PCIe and then we did it so basically what you said work pull down just these two who keep this one don't let it melt are you in vents on one card so this has gone to a one card session okay let's make sure it's CPU can still run after we've been sitting here all this time they think it's wrong it's finished single card now yeah just the first card okay so why are we running see if the CPU works yeah we want to make sure this he's dangerously close to the coal bug though where does it called bug like 110 okay - 108 107 let's double-check yeah 4000 for bus when they called it original okay well let's overclock let's do some overclocking Joe put the card at about 110 the PCIe slots disabled for the other one I guess right yeah okay yeah but we don't want it to melt either yes you're still pouring smellin to in there you ready go pour about performance falling a bit parts too cold yes but the heater yeah which makes it really nice so we'll start off about 2560 ish this car dad till he can do 2670 almost 2700 the first cart yeah very close 2700 I've been running into this issue at 27 I stopped it around like 25 65 when I was just without a chaperone my first try to to be honest I think I think actually most KP guards will do 25 50 for sure and many will do 2600 and to go above that you need to be started to need the better Vince did you work on the card I got or was marking top no I did I didn't work on it dude I just just really briefly tested it to make sure it wasn't a lemon I didn't actually have test it to make sure it was Bend or anything I just wanted to make sure hey it's the memory stuck at plus 800 or push that hunger the blinds not too good right now either so slow really yeah which one BP ba you needs because we need does this full of ice you need to blast the ice out of there and then torch it you need really powerful dragon so you're trying plus plus 454 offset yep Plus 1450 for the memory offset yep how do you decide on where to put the memory of like we didn't decided me do you just increment by like 25 or 50 megahertz when you're first testing a card actually when I first started sensing the KB's I saw like every card could do like 1,300 okay and then almost every card can do about 1350 and then you start to see a difference like something many can do 14 under it and then maybe most can do 1500 that's not as easy is just like studying and see if it runs the erectus you can hit it like well what's interesting is like some cards will scale with a little bit of cold and other cards can hit the max fuck on India okay so you still if you pre test on ambient you still can't tell which cards are best on memory what kind of memory voltage you normally end up running for the max clock pretty high this right now it's one four five because we're not maxed out but for example for example on Titan X r-tx yeah he's running one point six under memory okay that card needed it yeah B months like six yeah you didn't vote on your card did you know I don't know how they need they need to vote this one you didn't know how yeah bachelor we didn't have enough time to actually go play around what's a GPU pot j-man 110 105 is dangerously warm for 25 5000 my faithful I thought you're a twenty four fifty so the way the card scales is about about twenty five fifty can run this temperature okay most cards and then 2650 is more like 120 125 okay and then to her 2700 plus you need 140 minus 140 plus but he run into the issue where the thermal grease is really stressed that minus 140 on the GPU so that's where the heart overclocking is the that's what's gonna separate the men from the boys on these cards who can run it at minus 145 not break the grease and keep the card stable so is that just experience of knowing like where to how much of it is luck of the draw on your page application versus knowing what you're doing I mean like 10 uke so for example when Joe and I Joey we broke down the card a few times and rebasing it oh yeah and every now you're pretty good consistently but every now and then you have one where it's like okay this is just widget III do this how many times did you guys know I like four or five yeah over the weekends favorite five so in your experience are you able to pretty much get it good every single time or you still actually this plate helps a lot okay if you can have a nice solid metal plane behind the car you can get a better mount okay hey did you guys notice like when you mount really tight the card will flex like a banana yeah right so it's a little nervous about it so if you think about it the pressure is not really where you want it to be if the card is folding around the container that's not good you want the pressure behind the diet right you want it flat there right so with this plate I noticed it's it's it's flat there and then will start to bend on bend out more on the outside okay and that can tell when I remove it you can really see it's better contact the first time the crash was because he's not cold enough he sees really on the borderline but it's CPU test so it doesn't matter right now you need to go colder dude you need to be around 120 now for the next clock I said CPU just leave it are you ready to go for a real score now yeah yeah so Joe we were we were talking about this in the stream too as the ice and water builds up in the pot what is it like you want to explain why that's a problem the people well it basically doesn't allow the liquid nitrogen to soak into the pot itself so it causes issues where like when you try to combat it with a port it doesn't work so it just heats up and heats up in heats up so that's why we usually use like a compressor or something to basically blow out at the bottom right and after we like dry it well I mean oh you know the pots have when I have a great shot of this like today but cause have a bunch of holes in them are they milled out is that the correct phrase or drilled out I guess but I drilled out yeah just punch out holes in the bottom of the pot and I guess that's water sinks in it creates a separation layer between that on to pot itself well you get some of those holes will get plugged up with chunks ice right and like you said Allen to can't get to where it needs to go and the guy yeah - minus 130 on GPU yep - 106 the other one Joe is just so we've disabled the lowest part here but Joe's just keeping it alive yeah I told him keep it at minus 50 so it's not doesn't turn the motherboard into a lake and shut us down well crash try again what do you think that crash was no idea man could have been anything they've been running for so long yeah you ready makeup work already I'm actually very happy about the it's done she's done ski steep she's danced key I'm very happy about the GPU plates yeah look at these things dude Peters do you remember the cartwheel ice cream stick your hand in there and touch around the plate even this card isn't loaded right this cards off yeah it's not even I stopped for cold it's crazy yeah it's been do you have it on that website already actually that would be the best test like we got two guards in here we just turned off the second one I think froze it it's not doing anything yeah but it's nice and dry good test actually very good that was their idea why we come to come he likes to do this so this is the worst case possible for the first year than the course for me all right I think if you warm the card up to like - fifty one time good little runs try and try and get like once for it yeah that's what we did last time oh man we hate it up like every day after every couple runs we had to heat up the pot it's something about something on the GPU that causes that well I thought maybe it was pace so I tried different application methods but it didn't seem to make that much better thank you heating it up with like the best thing my going to get job you ready kind of a pain yeah yeah go for all hold on e100 yeah sure - - 90 on the GPU on - 101 on the CPU you can kick it off Vince what do you you're setting - 52525 and 5.8 5.8 yeah let's just see if it can run it's not voltage yeah CPU voltage is 1 5 2 and 2.25 VI n okay GPU voltage is 1 point 4 volt set with the lowest level of V group that the card allows so I'm getting around 1 4 0 under load of 1 4 0 1 3 9 and beam M is at 1 point 4 5 what did you guys run the vemma met when you tested it what's your GPU said 100 right well no no it's a little bit going up I'm like 110 is ok when you complain about I just do that man that's the funny part the thing with our TX is it's not like Pascal man Pascal was you could just bench you could bench for two hours straight just non-stop and you just go right like incrementally yeah but our TX is different it's like you know if you have a theory what it is I have many theories but I don't know the exact reason I really don't I know that the heater plate helps a lot really helps a lot do you think it's like a like a change in the silicon with like we're in a position stuff or just like the way the boost behaves or like architecture it's more like like Public Works is applied in some settings because if we don't increase the clocks like run on the default kind of flies then car can run or like fine even like for the longer time but as soon as you try it serious overclocking even like twenty-four twenty-five hundred then we will see this behavior so with that speed when how many degrees per second that's what's important I say here we go again if like if GPUs running if you have to to fast change then you will lose the grease so you have another problem okay not bad that's not a bad score ninety nine thirty eight single card yeah thirteen 841 for CPU was the you have five point eight yeah is that decent yeah that's that looks good okay let's run again though we're at a little clock we're not too high yet yeah this last little bit it's so slow I think 10k is pretty respectable Computex core goals so we had a lot of difficulties right I'll just recaps on that we've been running single card because dual card got like bugged out on the voltage or something or a frequency I guess precision got stuck trying to boot and 2600 so we've disabled the second card with a PCI you switch on the board which has proven to be a very useful stretched today yeah exactly right that's right there yeah and first cards been running not okay yeah no just torch it torch torch the second pot and I'll run it at default GPU temperature around minus 110 115 so we've got like 20 score 20 points away from the 10,000 thanks by extreme 12 12 point yeah CPU was running at five nine five eight it's 99 lady excavating for yeah and so the the scores then we're trying to hit 10k before breaking down and on the scoreboards the third place was like 99 82 and you hit 99 30 something on your first like when you first run back right and then after that we got a 99 88 sorry in third now with the worst possible environment yeah not bad and then second is is like 10,000 288 I think top of my head and first is using a 3175 axe at ten thousand five something I think this system can probably do can beat the 10 to 88 score in better condition yeah its best condition right I think you can do it 2026 2680 well roundabout minus 145 but then you're at right at the limit of the grease there and there's something message about them okay you're running again so keep it stable if it crashes it's because of your attempts not right in times five it will usually halt right at the beginning of the grease ain't right Vince do you ever feel like you're watching Joe you feel like you're like the Grand Master trying to educate the student yagi really like I'm like on edge I'm always on edge watching my best because if you want to take control freak right because you could just get used to a certain way of doing things I see somebody doing it differently than you he does that always like like going back and forth what have you been doing the jalapao feedback that watch that sec one sec guard did a video a thing it's gonna get really hot in this hallway just a heart like part is part of the test right there I'm streaming like step ones [Laughter] you getting dripped water drips right yeah Holly Monday dripping all over the system every year it's like that worship time just like bench anywhere all right so we ended up and I think we're in third it's really not bad obviously tapie's in like first four total scores but for packed together system middle context that actually has water dripping on it from the air conditioning duct above us thirds not so bad considering those conditions yeah and it's awesome humid as hell in here dude yeah humid water drip from a pub front bench that's been running for a while today that's a 99 80 X 80 or just even we the best CB running so pretty happy with that we got to see the process of it Joe and Vince going through overclocking other KP cards is it true Joe that you get to take this one home now yes I beat every score we have yeah so Joe might have one of these when he gets back and you can check him out on period of hardware Vince of course The Namesake on the cards it ain't been you've got a website as well kingpin cool ENCOM yep and if you want to pick up like some KP base KP x blue face that Joe and I are using all scream you can buy that from Vince Fontaine temple a calm I think that'll wrap it so thank you guys for putting up with poorer benching conditions every year went pretty well it's like this every year that makes 10 for joining us well for pouring on to yeah we'll see you all next time