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one of our coffee tax advertisers was cable Maude who are making a new vertical GP amount that positions the video card farther back in the case theoretically lowering the thermals we wanted to test this claim properly though and it makes logical sense that a card positioned farther from a glass would operate cooler but we wanted to test how that would work with air cooled cards which are typically limited by the gap between the glass and the cooler itself by lengthening that gap by a couple of inches performance should increase significantly whereas typically you only want to use these stock vertical mounts with open-loop cooled cards not with air cooled cards the cable mod mount should push the card enclosure to the motherboard which has other interesting thermal characteristics that we'll get into today before that this video is brought to you by Corsairs HS 70 wireless gaming headset which focuses on comfort with memory foam adjustable ear cups and a padded headband the headset has a 40 foot low latency range over wireless lasts for up to 16 hours of gaming use and as extra focus on build quality to ensure it lasts a long time learn more at the link in the description below so this is Kailen mods new vertical GPU mount we showed it in our ad pre-roll during competence and now that we're back it's time to actually dig into it and see how it performs and we had some thoughts that it would actually do as it promises because ultimately you're talking about socketing this into the PCIe expansion slots and then pushing back the GPU several inches I think the difference is somewhere in the range of 2 to 3 or 4 inches really depending on the case for testing so for our toss we're using a cooler master H 500 M it does not represent 100% of cases on the market of course but it represents the majority of them because ultimately all these cases with vertical mounts they basically push the card right up against the glass which is fine for open-loop but not for air and so this one pushes it closer to the motherboard the question then becomes what other limitations do you have well one of them of course is that you can't use any of the really lower PCIe expansion slots for the most part unless you were to do something like what you've seen with the new Thermaltake and Coolermaster designs where they're just taking a rotatable PCIe expansion cover to completely flip it and either way you potentially limit what other devices you can put in there but most people only use one device in any PCIe slots anyway and that's a graphics card and if you're using more things it's probably something like a stream capture card or something like that so for most people I think you're using one GPU and our testing here should look through and and we'll find out exactly how much the difference is for a horizontal baseline test and a traditional configuration versus a stock case vertical mount up against the glass versus the kala mod kit and this thing I think by the way is still in production they're finalizing it now so it'll be out in probably two months or something like that maybe a bit more so if you're interested in it it'll be out on market eventually they're just finalizing some production right now let's get into the thermal numbers for this as noted we're testing with a cooler master h 500 mm for now it uses the mesh front panel for this testing so we've got more access to intake we're not using the glass we previously found at this case performed reasonably well in our thermal testing with the mesh on the front up near the age 500p mesh case unsurprisingly we're also swapping our standard GPU so these results are not comparable to our other case testing results we're using the case testing bench but we've pulled the GPU out and we've replaced it with a 1080 t is c2 from EVGA which has icx sensors so it's got I think 9 total thermistors placed around the board so those give us some insights to power component temperatures vram temperatures stuff like that not just GPU temperatures but we do have GP diet as well finally testings conducted with a 30-minute loop of fire strike extreme which we found to produce a realistic heat load comparable to gaming but also still a lot of heat and it's strictly on the graphics cards there's very little being done on the CPU so it's a great test for that and for this we can just move straight into the results I think we have one chart for this one's very simple so here it is blue represents default horizontal mounting or baseline red represents cabe maude solution and orange represents the stock age 500m vertical mounting a quick glance shows that kilowatt solution performs well overall and even matches the baseline horizontal mounting in some areas of the PCB the GPU core is within margin of error between the Cable model amount and the horizontal amount in the H 500m but with that 44 degrees Celsius over ambient the age 500m vertical mount operates at 50 degrees marking a noteworthy increase in temperature the first two memory modules are also within margin of error for horizontal and the ko mod mount and again disadvantaged with the stock vertical mods in the age 500m kala mod has proven that it's possible to have a vertical GPU mount without suffocating air-cooled cards at least in this one case this is particularly good news as some manufacturers are moving to build cases with this new vertical mounting format in mind as you'll see in our copy tax coverage of thermal takes level 20 series and of cooler masters SL 600 M we start seeing meaningful differences in the power component measurements these are MOSFETs and inductors and are producing a greater Delta as a result of their location on the PCB some of the warmer sensors are located towards the bottom of the PCB below where the cooler mm 1 mm 2 and GPU thermistors are located this coincides with a slightly higher Delta that we see in M 3 indicating that the power supply shroud is a potential inhibitor to cooling for the lower down components on the board the VM components are also located out of the most effective cone of cooling for the 200 millimeter intake fans furthering this and the difference isn't massive but ko mod still does a better job than the stock vertical mount it's just that this is an interesting highlight of how the air stream works in the case the last point of consideration for this is clock speeds because with nvidia cards what will happen is every couple degrees that you gain or lose there is a clock speed difference there's a hard throttle at about 84 degrees but below that all the way down to below 60 there's still frequency to be gained from a couple degrees reduction in operating temperature for these temperatures because we had the EVGA fan fixed to 50% for both of the fans we're operating at a low enough temperature overall that there was actually no meaningful change in frequency for all the tests it was about the same roughly 1840 to 1850 megahertz so no real difference that would be exaggerated if you were to put in a card with lower fan speeds or perhaps use a case with even more restricted cooling worst cooling on the front something like that you would start seeing greater thermal differences there that could well the thermal difference would not increase at a rate linear to the frequency reduction so you would see thermal differences up to a point at which throttling kicks in really hard and then to see differences at that point you'd have to look at the clocks now that the temperatures but for this testing there was no meaningful difference in clock speed because we kept it cool enough to begin with we did however measure a meaningful difference in thermals so there's a real change there so pretty clear and straightforward for this as for more extreme cases of course expect some throttling in some areas but basically the Cale mod mount if you can make it work if you really want it I think it's gonna be 60 bucks or so or something like that so depending on your needs it's potentially a bit steep if your case doesn't support a vertical mount at all it helps if it does support one but you don't like it you can put it in there anyway but at the end of the day thermally it's about the same as horizontal mounting in the age 500 I'm your mileage will vary depending on case but they should all be more or less the same at least at a base level and then the components lower down on the boards yes they'll run a couple degrees warmer than horizontal but still cooler than traditional vertical in the case so we had a lot of requests people wanted us to validate their claims so we've done the head I think it's really pretty simple and that's it for this one is always stored on Cameron's axis net to help us out directly you can grab one of our new shirts like the blue print shirt that we just put up on the store and that'll again store like gamers next has done that for one of those or you can go to patreon.com/scishow stop 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