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it's hard to intentionally get scammed to set out there and really try to get ripped off outside of maybe pain a TNT or spectrum for Internet we still tried though we bought this GTX 1051 gigabyte card that was listed on eBay at least that's what it was called the card was $80 and was advertised as a new GT x 1050 with one gigabyte of video memory and it even came with a questionable definitely not malware CD in an unbranded brown box opening up gpu-z it even thinks that this is a gtx 1050 and knows that it has one gigabyte of ram so everything looks right today well benchmark the card and explain how this scam works and how they're able to trick software like gpu-z before that this video is brought to you by thermal grizzlies high-end thermal paste and liquid metal thermal grizzlies cryo knot is an affordable high quality thermal compound that doesn't face some of the aging limitations of other pastes on the market cryo knot has a thermal conductivity of 12.5 watts per meter Kelvin focuses on endurance is easy to spread and isn't electrically conductive making it safe to use on GPU dies thermal grizzly also makes conductor not liquid metal which we've used to drop 20 degrees off some temperatures than our dee-lighted test bio tube at the link in the description below so we'll keep this fairly short part of what we're gonna do today is pull off the cooler here and see what GPU is actually underneath because as you'll see it's on the performance results it doesn't line up with 1050 performance and we'll cut a few of the charts out or really shorten them just because it kind of you get the point across after three or four of them really also testing methodology no I did not install the drivers from this unlabeled dvd-r with butterflies on it because I'm not sure what's on here and I don't want it on my network whatever it is so we got the driver straight from Nvidia they worked just fine pulling the latest version the card I'll note is not Nvidia's doing so just because they made the GT 1030 ddr4 card which is like the worst we've looked at in the last year don't be mad at Nvidia for this one they deserved the anger for the 1030 ddr4 card but this one is something you'll find basically on Alex whereas an eBay so it is not a sanctioned product at least not as its advertised though it was at one point and a video product and we'll see what that was as we get towards the end of the content so other than that I think we can just constrain to the testing as always if you want to know what platform we use for testing check the article linked in the description below for testing methodology otherwise we'll go through a couple of charts and take the cooler off and see what it is let's start with Ghost Recon wildlands at 1080p with medium settings just because we already had some data on the 1050 and rx 560 cards the card instantly maxes out its fear on capacity and ends up overall worst in performance the ebay GTX 1050 1 gigabyte card operates an average frame rate of 21 FPS with the gz x 1050 properly at 47 FPS average note that the 1050 is from msi and is named 1050 OC but it's not actually overclocked they just called it that regardless we're at over a 2x difference between the two here's a quick frame time plot that shows the chaotic performance of the GTX 1050 one gigabyte scam card remember with frame x we're looking at frame to frame latency on delivery so the important part is a consistently low frame delivery interval having the line jump up and down and all over the place is bad and indicates stuttery performance and also having a higher overall line indicates a lower frame rate 16 milliseconds would be 60 fps reverence this 1050 might actually be worse than the GT 1030 ddr4 card that we recently talked about ok maybe it's not that bad this is dota 2 the GT 1030 ddr4 manages to hold its crown as the worst card tested this year a true accolade the GTX 1051 gigabytes cam card manages 61 FPS average which is still impressively worse than the GT 1030 gddr5 card 67 FPS average and is outside of margin of error csgo shows similar results with the GT 1030 gddr5 card outperforming the GTX 71 gigabyte card by 10% the new 1050 that we bought isn't looking so good the Raven Ridge rr5 2400 G performs within arm's reach even when overclocked to 1600 megahertz on the IGP and this is without looking at any real 1050 it's just the scam one we bought so it can't even match up really with a 1030 gddr5 Sniper Elite 4 is the last before we pause the charge to see what's going on under the hood before even showing the chart take a look at this gameplay clip of Sniper Elite Sniper Elite is dumping the texture quality with some meshes coming back near the texture list and that's a result of the one gigabyte memory capacity the card can't even keep up enough to render the full texture quality even still here's a chart we're seeing 22 FPS average for the gtx 1050 1 gigabyte with the EVGA GTA 4 mean and alleged gtx 950 1 gigabyte overall the question remains then what's really under the hood on this thing so now it's time to take the cooler off and see what's really in there because it's not a gtx 950 it is maybe Pascal but it's performing worse than a GT 1030 in some cases so we'll see all that came with the product was this brown box and this DVD that's it and then the video card itself if you call it a video card at this point so there's the video card this thing is an older design from previous generation the single fan axial cooler with a extremely thin aluminum heatsink so this is an aluminum heatsink that is not too different from some of the 1050 cards on the market but either way it's not a good one only four screws holding this thing together should be pretty quick you can see here by the way it says gtx 1050 1 gigabyte gddr5 uh 54 100 megahertz and it claims a core of 928 megahertz also it's got HDMI and VGA on it which if you've had a Pascal card or have looked at Pascal VGA is extremely uncommon though we will allow that maybe in the Asian market it might be more common so maybe that's a difference there but they say it's a 1050 so let's see if it really is don't paste alright so there's our cards cooler is very unimpressive ok so time to see what it is first of all this is not a Pascal package if you've seen our Pascal tear downs in the past they don't look like this anymore they orient them this way the whole spacing is incorrect for a 1050 so it's probably not one of those okay so it's all cleaned now let's see this thing is GK 106 220 - a you might be asking what the hell is a GK 106 I haven't heard of that Pascal GPU that's because K it stands for Kepler which is an architecture that while the G K 106 specifically was the 650 TI so if you remember that this GP or if you remember the 650 Ti that's what this is G K 106 is a 650 Ti and that card came out and end of 2012 October 2012 is when this GPU came out it is now almost six years old and you can see also how old this is because it's got Alpina memory on it these memory modules first of all there are four of them despite being one gigabyte which tells us the density of the modules but also there al-qaeda al-qaeda was bought in 2013 by micron they don't even really exist anymore they've been acquired so Alpina memory no longer exists and that should really just show how old this is so it's it's been secretly rebranded as a 1050 remember this was an Nvidia product at one point this thing but this card as a whole branded as a 1050 certainly is not an Nvidia product and the other sad thing here is that even the the process is different so Pascal is 16 nanometers and this thing was 28 I think for Kepler very different architectures Kepler came after Fermi and before Maxwell and then Pascal was after Maxwell so Pascal is is significantly newer this is no gtx 950 it's a 650 di at the end of the day is what we've learned here so the 650 TI was fine at one point but how did they do it I guess is the question it shows up as a 1050 in GP and another software and it does show up with the correct amount of memory it is 1 gigabyte after all but the 10:50 labeling comes from just a BIOS so it's a BIOS mod and all they did was renamed the card in that bios mod it's actually not that difficult to do particularly on Kepler where it was easier to do hacks on the video cards that have been largely locked down on Pascal's it's a lot harder to get away with this kind of stuff now it's unlikely that you'll see the same kind of trick with the same level of success in a couple of years when actual ten fifties are branded as say 11 or 12 fifties or whatever so probably won't see quite as much of it I'm sure they'll still be scams but basically they just changed the name of it in BIOS and then flashed it onto the card and that's how it's done so performance is a 650 T I will put some extra charts on the screen we did ashes we did fire strike and time spy did a couple of other games as well and it's just it's not worth talking through them because I guess I guess there's one benefit here if you've been wondering how a 650 Ti performs we've accidentally benchmarked it so now you have numbers for that it's just labeled as EBA 1050 one gigabyte so that's it for this one don't buy the card it's 80 bucks on ebay do not buy it it is a scam there are plenty of other ones on there you can normally tell them apart because the price is too good to be true if that's the case it probably is too good to be true especially cuz this was branded as new it's not like it was a used device in which case it would be harder to detect the scam and also you can kind of tell because there's probably no branding on the card at all and they probably don't list it as like a sues gigabyte EVGA anything like that it's probably just listed as gtx 1050 or whatever so that's it pretty interesting scam I guess that's the new one as always thanks for watching go to store it on camera nexus net to 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