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all of the sales this weekend help negate the insane prices of memory and the still recovering prices of GPUs we decided to put together an ultra budget build sub $500 to pound when you check the prices and we decided to do a couple different tests with it while we were at it one of them is with the GTX 1050 the other ones with an rx 560 and then we did a separate test with one stick of memory versus two at the same capacity and timings to see if buying one and saving a few bucks would actually be worth it on a budget build for the base platform reason a G 45 60 and an HD 3 motherboard and as always we'll have links to each product in the description below along with an article version of this video before we get into that this content is brought to you by the Thermaltake flow RGB closed-loop liquid cooler which is a 360 millimetre radiator plus 3 120 fans that are RGB illuminated the if then will take it rain fans at that this is a 4.5 done a stack pump which is one of the faster pumps you can learn more at the link in the description below so for most the year prices have been volatile but mostly in an upward direction unfortunately they've been kind of volatile the last few days though just from things going on sale and coming off sale the long story short of it is originally a couple day 1 day ago two days before this goes live the build we put together was four hundred and thirty dollars on new Aegon Amazon using all the different rebates and sales currently it's 450 but that's gonna go up and down especially because when this goes live it'll be Cyber Monday and everything's gonna change again so price is kind of loose but basically we're going for under 500 and you may need to choose different parts from different vendors but they can still be the same capacity or GPU or whatever it'll be roughly the same to go over the basics we're using an EVGA 450 BT 80 plus bronze power supply that power supply sells for $45 currently has a $10 rebate if you count them whatever not a big deal but when we first put the build together had a thirty dollar rebate and some other discount and I came out to 12 bucks which is absurd it's because it's not even like it's not even the type of twelve dollar power supply that will catch on fire it's actually rated some kind of efficiency not much but it's there for the case we chose the course here 270 our this one performs pretty well in our review when we combined it with our 570 X review and we have some thermal numbers for this case as well in that review the two sony are shipped at seventy dollars and we liked it well enough then but now it's about fifty five dollars with sometimes a rebate that brings it down to forty five which is about the price of a two hundred our so that's a really good deal if you can get at 55 to 45 it has decent ventilation plenty for this system it's perfectly fine for this setup and it's actually a decent quality case you could go cheaper you could do a $25 $30 case and people like to point this out when we do budget builds like why would you use a 40 $50 case well building is somewhat subjective and my thing with these types of build is I want a case that's not complete garbage fifty dollars gets you a pretty good entry-level case yes you could spend $10 less or $15 less but the threshold for quality between that ten or fifteen dollars is massive and go in for something like a two hundred are which is a great case for the price means you can actually keep using it and not have to upgrade it going forward all these other parts are pretty modular you really don't want to upgrade your case because you're rebuilding the entire computer so that's that's my look on it if you want to buy a cheaper case there are options out there I'll even link one below that I think is halfway decent but I would recommend going with a slightly higher quality one if you can stretch the dollar an extra 10 or 15 bucks memory we went with G Scott skill Ripjaws five eight gigabytes of ddr4 2400 which is all you need for a G 4560 and that memory when we first chose it was $75 today it's 90 but there's other memory kits of the same spec at 75 so again just if it's not the price we said it was when we filmed this I go find the exact same thing by a different vendor or whatever for the same price for the motherboard gigabyte be 250 HD 3 we've used it before it's this one right here pretty simple board doesn't overclock you need it to and it's $55 after a somewhat substantial $20 rebate 75 before wouldn't really recommend it at 25 but if you do rebates it's worth it or if your retail does it that's worth it if you can get it that price from your local retailers rx5 60 or gtx 950 for the video cards $110 on the 560 edge review a 112 flat for the 1050 no rebate required 124 I think for the 560 without a rebate which is not terrible either so let's talk about the one verse to stick testing for a lot of PC builders who've been doing this for a while from experience I know that it feels wrong to just put one stick in a board it's a little bit asymmetrical and you hear all the time well I mean that's just you know that there's dual channel support so it feels weird to not use that we've done this testing before it did it again in a budget build this time and basically the decision was in a memory market where one eight gigabyte stick might cost a couple dollars less like I mean as much as $20 less and some of the prices we saw than two four gigabyte sticks we thought it'd be worth testing and seeing if it matters it comes down to channeling so to clear up a common misconception while we're at it a lot of people say the phrase single channel memory or multi or dual channel memory quad channel memory they put the word memory at the end of those things the memory is not any challenge the memory doesn't care it there's no such thing as dual channel memory or quad channel memory it does not exist what does exist is sticks of memory and then you put it into the platform and then that platform with its CPU will be a certain channeling capability in this case we can go up the dual channel so going down and one stick you lose half that obviously so we're gonna be testing that and then one big reminder on memory the results you see here are not conclusions that you can draw across all platforms you cannot draw these conclusions across the high end with higher end cards can't draw them across X 399 or $2.99 we're just looking at this low input platform to see how the memory channeling through the platform do overs a single from the motherboard affects performance so let's get started with the game destiny 2 at 1080p for all these games starting with destiny - we found the GTX 1050 was capable of achieving about 60fps by playing at 1080p with medium settings whereas the RX 560 operated an average FPS closer to 47 this was also with considerably greater frame time intervals the GTX 1050 ends up with a 27% lead largely thanks to the new Nvidia drivers that helped out a lot and holds close to 60 fps going down to one memory stick we see that the GTX 1050 maintains all of its fps effectively we don't really experience a performance hit in destiny - by going down to a single channel aside from a measurable but unnoticeable difference in 0.1% low values we're also only going to be testing one stick configurations with the fastest card in each game there's no point in doing the slower one cuz probably bottlenecks on that one anyway moving on to Sniper Elite 4 at 1080p and the high settings the RX 560 expectedly manages to win this one given that polaris does well with DirectX 12 and async compute rx 560 ends up 9.8% ahead of the gtx 950 Azra single channel performance the RX 560 with one stick of RAM ends up at roughly identical performance to the dual stick configuration and is completely with invariance of tests Total War is next this one was run at 1080p with high settings the GTX 950 maintains a lead of about 13.7 percent over the rx 560 here with more consistent frame times represented in the 0.1% low values going down to a single stick brains our GTX 950 s frame rate down to 50 6.7 FPS which is just outside of our margin of error we lose about 2% of performance in this more CPU intensive title by going to one stick with doom using Vulcan on Ultra settings and with no anti-aliasing but with acing compute it does work without a a the RS 560 leaves the GTX 1050 way behind like sniper the guard is again benefitting from lower level api's the RX 560 ends up being over 60fps nearing 70 while maintaining ultra settings at 1080p that's about a 50% lead over the GTX 1050 2 gigabyte card which also suffers and low-end frame time performance in this test removing a stick of memory equates roughly the same performance with no appreciable difference for the RX 560 to flip the script the GTX 1050 leaves behind the RX 560 in rocket League we found with the highest settings at 1080p the GTX 1050 manages 134 FPS average with lows at 95 and 73 fps for 1% and 0.1% respectively going down to a single stick of memory drops us to 127 FPS average from 134 a reduction of 5.5 percent this is the most noteworthy change we've seen thus far and is because the game is a little bit more memory or CPU intensive than some of the others shadow of war needs medium settings in order to maintain 40 FPS in our testing and is one of the more abusive titles on the bench both the rx 560 and GTX 950 performed at 41 FPS average which is probably largely thanks to the CPU it looks like we're becoming CPU bound here so they are functionally equivalent removing a stick from the GTX 1050 test system saw the same performance for no change in this title we also have some synthetic results for what is worth the first chart is fire strike in this one our RX 560 option priced at $110 after rebate 124 before is led by the 1050 which has a 3.4 percent lead and graphics score going down to one stick we ended up behind the tooth stick test with invariance actually and that's the graphics core looking instead at the CPU score we dropped about 7 FPS off of it and consistently and repeatedly saw that this result is a 38% decline in performance from the CPU test showing where the change hurts the most in memory intensive and CB bouncin areas where memory is heavily transacted the Moldy stick configuration helps the next and final chart is four times by for this one the RX 560 holds a slight lead over the gtx 950 and the single stick results are as shown on the screen so that's it for the build this one's a bit different normally we do builds as kind of like here's the parts but this one we've got a couple different options for you so we'll leave it up to you as far as the memory configuration that one's pretty cut-and-dry for the most part generally speaking in the games we just tested with a G 45 to 60 and with one of these cards not a lot of difference between one and two sticks at the same capacity and times that can change as you see in some of the tests like some of the CPU found items where we drop some framerate but it just depends on if you know what kind of games are gonna be playing if they're gonna be affected generally speaking it looks like not necessarily I hesitate to say buy one stick because again there's that stigma that as a PC builder for a long time you do kind of feel like it's not worth doing one because you don't want to risk running into one of those memory bound 2 asks and really suffering for it that said if you're on a serious budget and you can only afford one today and dropping $15 off the price your memory gives you the next class up in GPU or CPU that's a considerable change and might be worth doing because you can always pretty easily add another stick later just do it within the next couple months and as long as the prices don't behave the way Bitcoin does you'll be in good shape if it doesn't skyrocket another 5x if it goes down which is more likely thanks to Samsung spinning up more fabs then you'll end up saving money in the long run but that's the only one where there's a pretty cut-and-dry scenario the 1050 and the rx 560 do they change who wins based on what game it is so doom 5 60s in the lead rocket league 10 50s in the lead and otherwise the differences aren't normally too big so that's it for this one all the links will be in the description below for each of the products if you like them we've reviewed most of these before or worked with them and as always patreon.com slash gamers nexus helps out directly you can subscribe for more or you can go to store that gamers an access net the big was shirt like this one or one of our stickers both of which are on sale for the next week or so they were watching I'll see you all next time