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Google Stadia: $130 "Founder's Edition," Game Streaming, & Launch

2019-06-06
Google held its first stadia connects today officially revealing the details of its upcoming stadia game a streaming service that we've heard about for a while now this is the service where Google is partnering with AMD on hardware solutions and is hoping to offer a stream to home service for playing games the intention is for stadia to be usable anywhere and that will of course require a few a few things like a decent internet connection it's not quite anywhere and also you need a compatible device currently Google lists the compatible or supported devices as quote laptops desktops pixel 3 and pixel 3a for mobile and beyond that we're not 100% sure what the requirements are but we do have some requirements on the internet speeds and then we also have information on the pricing the games that will be available and other launch timelines before that this video is brought to you by the gigabyte zee 390 ARS master motherboard which comes equipped with one of the more powerful z3 90 V RMS for heavier overclocks on the new 9th gen intel cpus the ARS master is also one of the few motherboards with a real heatsink this generation featuring a mix of high surface area fins and looks oriented hover blocks oh and it's also got updated RDV illumination learn more at the link below the first package that Google will make available will be stadia Pro which is a $10 per month plan to allow up to 4k 60fps streaming that periodically adds free games beginning only with destiny 2 at launch a $130 founders Edition like the name Nvidia used to confuse everybody will come with three free months of stadia pro and it'll also have a buddy pass for three months to share with a friend there will be a controller included and a google chromecast ultra with the package as well and a founders stadia name which we had to look into what that means in the fine print apparently a founders stadia name is quote a stadia name identifying themselves in stadia with no numerical identifiers Auto appended so this is as far as forced benefits go to attempts to justify the price of something this is this pretty high up on the list but beyond that stadia pro launches in November for the EFI version and customers will will get that a couple months earlier in the least otherwise everything launches in 2020 with no firm date announced as of yet stadia base is potentially the more compelling service so stadia base won't launch until sometime in 2020 users will be able to buy and stream games at 1080p 60fps with bitrate not firmly identified as of yet and that's without paying a subscription fee so you pay for the game you can stream the game and that's sort of the start in the end of the transaction this begins to treat the Google platform more like a standard digital storefront something like Steam or the epic game store or similar options rather than a monthly subscription service Google breaks its streaming solutions into a couple of internet speed suggestions so based on the infographic on its website google says at 720p 60fps with stereo sound google recommends a 10 megabit per second download speed although no upload speed is identified right now 1080p 60 with 5.1 surround recommends 20 megabits per second down fork a 60 with 5.1 recommends at 30 to 35 megabits per second down but also requires the paid package monthly of stadia and this we should note is something we've experienced before so NVIDIA attempted to do it's a grid solution which later was renamed to GeForce now and the last time we worked with GeForce now was at a CES suite as a preview and NVIDIA had everything hooked up via fiber-optic cable in a hotel room with a $300 router all of this is relevant because in a room full of press Nvidia asked if anybody wanted to try GeForce now and used as its example titanfall 2 which many of you are likely aware is one of the most latency sensitive games you could possibly demo so as far as a stream your games over the internet solution goes titanfall taters should more or less instantly bring out any shortcomings in the latency and in the experience for how the the player can interact with a highly timing sensitive game no one volunteered to play so I did and the comment that I made after testing out titanfall 2 with GeForce now - the Nvidia people was is is the latency on this demo because of the hotel internet by which I was meaning to imply is the bad latency with the really really laggy feeling response time a result of bad I gave them an out is it a result of the bad internet in the hotel and they said yes the latency is as good as it is because we have fiber optic lines of a $300 router hooked up on Internet so clearly not quite aware of the situation but I did clarify later so anyway the point of that is that g-force now was a very serious project and still is and it's one that Nvidia really worked on hard for engineering solutions for the problem of latency for input latency specifically when you hit a button on the controller does it feel like the game is responding in the same amount of time as if you're playing it locally on your own system and Vidya had a lot of trouble tackling that they've gotten better of course with time but the initial launch was pretty rough to be honest so with Google stadia we're curious to see if the stadia will encounter the same learning curve that Nvidia did or if they're gonna come out of the gate with a more refined solution that can learn from Nvidia's own research even though they're not working together AMD is working with Google on this one anyway these solutions will all encounter latency challenges and making sure that the input feels like it should feel versus a locally played game the games that are announced as of now and eventually will be available for purchase on stadia include the following Dragon Ball xenoverse 2 doom eternal Wolfenstein Youngblood destiny 2 Power Rangers paddle for the grid really Baldur's Gate 3 Metro Exodus thumper grid Samurai Shodown football manager 2020 get packed the Elder Scrolls online at the crew to the division 2 Assassin's Creed Odyssey Ghost Recon breakpoints at trials rising NBA 2k Borderlands 3 farming simulator 19 there's only a couple more Mortal Kombat 11 rage 2 Final Fantasy 15 gilt tomb raider trilogy Darksiders Genesis and Just Dance 2020 again that's available for purchase the only game as of now today that come for free with with any with the subscription for google stadia is destiny to everything else require a subscription for a higher quality streaming like 4k 60 or just to play the game at all you can purchase the game and stream it in lower quality without a subscription I stated earlier 1080 for example 60 but anything higher all we require a subscription bungees shadow keep expansion stream took place immediately after the stadia stream where Bungie confirmed that destiny 2 is getting a basic free-to-play released on Steam moving to steam now and the whole package including the DLC all the DLC and shadow keep is $60 on stream so that is going to be included for and in quotes here free with the pro version of stadia that the quotes there being because you're still paying monthly is really paying $10 per month or you pay $130 for the founders edition to get it 3 months early and get a special name without a number at the end of it or something but Saranya after after you hit the six month point you should have just bought it on Steam or something instead but either way that's what Google's big announcement was it's just that after Bungie went and announced that they're releasing a version of destiny 2 for free on Steam not all of it but a good part of it and also you can buy destiny 2 for reasonably priced on Steam as well it does take a bit of the wind out of the sails of the Google announcement gilt and get packed or a stadia exclusive right now Baldur's Gate 3 notably is not stadia exclusive but it also doesn't have a release date yet it'll be coming to PC eventually so you don't have to get stadia for that release date is TBD it is not necessarily coming out in November one thing to keep in mind here one thing that we're a bit concerned about from a consumer standpoint is that Google does have a history of terminating quite a lot of its services and products Google glass for example although it's come back in some capacity very recently and in the business of terminating products and services you have to be a little bit concerned as a consumer of what happens to your purchases if it goes away the same concern exists with steam to some extent although steam is is proven at this point it is firmly secure in its position as of now so not a big concern anymore but something to keep in mind is that Google needs to prove itself here the stadia controller is the only dedicated Hardware announced for the service so far and it's not required to use the service but it does come with the founders edition it also comes with a dedicated google assistant built into it if you want something to spy on you and have some game capture buttons as well the controller alone is $70 the Xbox one controller just for perspective if you don't really pay attention to them are about $40 at present the founders Edition will be only available and the countries we've got listed here many of these countries ranked high on the list of countries with fastest internet options out there the USA notably does not but it is available in the u.s. Belgium Finland Canada Denmark France Germany Ireland Italy Netherlands Norway Spain Sweden the UK and the US excluding Hawaii and Guam we'll all have Google stadia available and then for a short list here of the benefits of pro vs. base Google's got some notes on that as well $10 a month for pro and three months of that are included with the $130 you pay for founder's Edition the resolution with pro is up to 4k with base it only goes up to 1080p the frame rate is 60fps for both capped max and the sound is 5.1 with pro it's more of a home theater than not if you're a PC play don't need to worry quite as much about this sound is stereo for bass and the kind of funny thing to note is that Google's graphic does say both Pro and bass allow you to give them money whenever you want to so that's great news additional free games released regularly apparently yes with stadia Pro starts with destiny to the collection does not name games immediately on the horizon and then stadia Pro exclusive discounts will be available on apparently select purchases with Pro but not with bass although the extent of those discounts is not known yet so there's a lot of stuff here a lot of promises where Google needs to to prove itself what it's actually planning to do with those it's AMD stated in an email to us that the Radeon data center GPUs to support Vulcan and Linux based code on Google stadia will be used as something we've known for a while now so this is not news but it does research and these partnership with Google on this project in addition Google and AMD this is a quote from them are offering a wide range of developer tools to optimize performance and capabilities of AMD Radeon GPUs interestingly some games like Final Fantasy 15 that are included in this list of stadia games do have a lot of Nvidia features like hair works for instance where you can use them with AMD cards but it's not typically a great experience it's also not typically a great experience on NVIDIA cards to be fair so we're curious to see if those options remain and how it'll work out it'll be interesting from a benchmarking perspective we also don't know the extent to which graphics settings tuning will be available if at all via stadia right now and if there's there's still a lot we need to see on how exactly this works and video not partnering with stadia or Google on this is not surprising because and video likely sees stadia as a competitor to its own GeForce now I mentioned earlier and probably has higher pricing in same reason they kind of stay out of consoles and videos got its Nvidia is in a position where it can demand a lot more from partners and if it feels that their competitors probably will just not work with them at all so that more or less recaps it in absence stadia bases you can buy games just like a digital storefront and that's the start in the end of it and then you can stream them rather than play them on a local system this is beneficial entirely and mostly only if you have a system that doesn't meet the requirements maybe you've got a laptop or an older computer that's not well equipped or if you're trying to do something like stream via chromecast which is included with the founders Edition version of stadia or the pro founders Edition version additionally streaming via the pixel 3 is something that is worthy of note and then the rest we will have to see how it works out this is probably not so that most of the PC enthusiasts in our audience will particularly care about right now because it doesn't require building a high-end machine to use that said game streaming we think eventually will be a significant market a significant part of the gaming or the PC hardware economy because it's kind of like movies on demand over time as these servers that run the games remotely get better as the latency gets better for input it does seem like it's a natural step to start doing games on demand just just like movies on demand so that people who are more mainstream not in our audience people who have no knowledge or understanding or desire to learn about things like PC hardware that would be really the the primary target if you can hit those people with games on demand where all they do is run the game off their Smart TV then that does seem like a potentially big audience now how it works out technologically that remains to be seen because it thus far games as a an online service stream to have had a rough start it's probably something that will eventually be conquered but we just don't know when yet anyway that'll recap the Google stadia announcement let us know what you think below we are genuinely curious likely a lot of you are going to have a negative response to this but for those of you who are excited about this let us know why because we're curious what our audience thinks and specifically what parts of this announcement do you find our either very interesting to you or promising or on the other side what parts of the 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