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HW News: 7900X Runs Hot, Xbox One X, Threadripper Release

2017-06-20
on the heels of our 7900 extra view we're here to recap news for the past week that includes some more information on 7900 x and our further testing as we iterate on the cpu and we'll also be talking about the Xbox one X some thread Ripper stuff and a couple of other things that have happened but overall we will be starting out with X 299 m7 900 X because they are a very hot topic right now before that this content is brought to you by custom backplate makers at v1 tech comm the u1 tech builds GPU back plates to order with their online customization tool making it easy to theme upcoming PC build that cleats cost $25 and up and are installed via magnets and can be seen in some shots of the cards reviewing that lately used code gamers Nexus 5 for five dollars off your order or click the link below starting out with the 7900 X and X $2.99 stuff so for our review it was fairly in-depth but we focused a lot of effort and time on the streaming stuff and the VR stuff which means that thermals and power are being pushed to the next video and that is getting some good progress at this point I do have some preliminary information for you on thermals and power from our testing not being too concrete yet this is just a news recap overall but we also have some more information on overclocking because as stated in the video for the review that data was still coming in as we were shooting the video against the deadline so most of the discussion happened in the charts without much discussion in the video so let's start with that first off for overclocking we managed to hit with our 7900 X 4.5 gigahertz and that was with a V core of one point two seven five volts and then for the cooler we had the CLC at kraken X 62 fans maxed out pump maxed out so it's an adequate cooler for pretty much anything normal but the last couple Intel releases have not been normal in the thermal Dept as we discussed in our original 77 100k review and as seem to become a topic a little bit after that again for the 7700 K so temperatures we were seeing north of 90 Celsius with 4.5 gigahertz at one point two seven five volts and we were still seeing pretty high thermal without the overclock as well so that is something that will get a whole lot of attention in a separate piece for from us but that's what we're looking at for the basics we were able to almost hit 4.6 but it was starting to push into 95c plus territory where and that's what I'm saying temperature by the way this is the package temperature as measured through software so that's not the core temperature it's the package temperature and we'll talk about the deltas between them and show individual temperatures for individual components in the full secondary video along with our power testing but either way quite hot 95c package temperature core temps were pretty hot as well and that is going to be somewhat of a limiter in the future for overclocking that beyond at least four point five four point six at one point to zone 5 in our testing the next thing is for power we saw power draw can increase to a couple hundred watts when you're really overclocking it hard and driving more voltage through it and that's especially true if you start off seeing memory as well so this is a CPU that is definitely a bit more power-hungry than some of the others we've worked with recently the power efficiency is not something we've plotted yet in terms of like performance per watt but looking just that power drive overall it is definitely up there couple hundred watts when overclocked and again separate video for that but that gives you a primarily Zeo some basic information from us while waiting for the full remainder of that power and thermal coverage now as far as the rest of the stuff so there's some information on efi and bios we used the latest EF is from asus for the prime deluxe motherboard and that was provided to us in advance so we were fortunate enough to get that latest efi the the most recent revision probably before launch day or the embargo that day so that means our our tests were done on all the latest stuff which is good we email the acs asked for it early and they basically told us to wait till we got it which we did so that was good and and i appreciate that they told us to hold on for it because it was an important update for overclocking but for reviews that may not have had the latest efi updates story similar to what we saw with Rison where this is clearly a somewhat rush to launch and you could probably blame the maker of the cpu for that more than the board partners just like with the rise much it was very rushed with rising the board partners really only had a few weeks to dial in on the finalized microcode and with X 299 it's not too much different so there will be some improvements to some things particularly overclocking with EFI updates going forward in general the baseline improvement from an EFI update and by baseline I mean no overclocking just out of box performance is not going to be that different in most cases but there are some interesting things with mesh and cached data in the BIOS set from what we've seen so far could implicate that there's a performance off of just from updating efi and leaving everything else alone but that's something we'll have to look at if it is something that applies to us so far was the asian support it seems like we're good i haven't tested this one yet that's next on the list though so we'll see how that does out of box in its current state and then update you Phi to get a full picture of if EFI updates do anything out a box or not may or may not get published depends on how interesting it is moving on the next topic is a thread Ripper so I've got a note here to mention the thread Ripper release date again this isn't something we talked about in our convey text coverage we received a word from one of the board partners when we look at their board on when they were planning to ship that board and that means that's probably the day thread Ripper comes out so I'm bringing this up again because a lot of people in the comments yesterday in our video I made a passing comment about thread rippers release I said August 10th and some people were like wait what I didn't know that so just just kind of put it out there again August 10th is what we've been told that's not from AMD that's from other people in the industry so that's what it looks like for thread rippers launch date and then a Alienware has their new area 51 thread repetition computer and the area 51 thread Ripper is supposed to be shipping on actually TBD but July 27th is the pre-order date so that coincides with August 10th for a potential release say that's not necessary final we don't have word from AMD that's what it looks like the area 51 thread river system will be 16 cores 32 threads just like the CPU is 64 gigabytes of memory 29:33 ddr4 is included with probably options to customize and then to 1080s and that's a lie or 3/5 80s and crossfire with a couple terabytes of storage as well and then nvidia has their new battle box GTX battle box which has an option included the ship with Raisa North Red River processors alongside I 9 extreme series processors so that's what's coming out in the pre-built the Xbox one so this is Microsoft's project Scorpio it finally did get a name a launch date and a price and those are Xbox 1x for the name the launch date November 7th and the prize $500 pre-orders should be open soon but aren't officially open as of this filming the Xbox one X is sticking with a custom apu from AMD it's an 8 core and it's still Jaguars so not a an architectural shift from the previous Xbox and this aligns with the sort of confusing console cycle we're in right now where they're doing 0.5 versions of their consoles not just a hard new console like we normally see the CPU cores are going to be clocked at 2.3 gigahertz and the GPU cores will run at 1172 megahertz from what is officially known and then it's supposed to have 40 CPUs and 2560 streaming processors so that's mostly course back to the Xbox one X surprisingly Microsoft showed off a whole lot of information about this including enough information to start piecing together vrm details which are on the web if you're interested in it but we might look at that later in the separate piece just kind of depends on what's out there the rating for in terms of just compute performance for all compute looks like 6 teraflops doesn't necessarily translate to a whole lot that you can compare to in the PC world directly but gives you a good idea of where it should fall in terms of performance memory system 12 gigabytes of gddr5 9x and that is on a 384-bit bus with a speed of 6 point 8 gigabytes per seconds or getting close to around the max of gddr5 not quite there yet and then it's also got a paper chamber for the cooler but that's what we have for now for the basics there will be some level of custom tuning on the vrm from what we've heard but don't have a whole lot of electrical engineering actual details on that just we know that it will be custom tune curved erm this next system is a really quick announcement just the Acer predator 21 X for those who remember it was that massive system that laptop basically a desktop a laptop that was shown at CES and it's got the curved 21 inch IPS display that one priced at $9,000 they have announced that they will be making 300 of those so that's what we know about it it's clearly a Halo product and available now for order if you have nine grand lying around for a just a weird anomalous laptop that is really meant to show people and say look how wealthy I am but you could also buy something like a car with that so that's what they've got acer is kind of predator 21x finally coming out and then next we have industry news Samson is ramping up production of its 64 layer NAND that's been anticipated for a while and it plans to introduce products using 64 later technology towards the second half of the year that's 2017 the new 64 layered I will use a capacity of 256 gigabytes take up less space on the wafer and if capable of one gigabit per second per die with allegedly 30% energy efficiency improvements from the lower input voltage of 2.5 volts that's new from Samsung new from Global Foundries also in the silicon area there's a seven nanometer FinFET on target for 2018 and this new FinFET process is scheduled for volume production next year the process is ostensibly capable of a 40% generational performance boost that is to say 40% more processing power and twice the area scaling when compared to the current 14 nanometer FinFET it will be some time before seven nanometers relevant to consumers but Global Foundries intends to stick to their product roadmap an SSD newsplex store has the new s3 series of SSDs they are the s3 G and the s3 C coming in SATA and MDOT two form factors with a new 14 nanometer lantern and courtesy of SK Hynix the s3g is an m2 device SBC is 2.5 and performances in the mid 500 megabyte range sequential read and write rating and it comes with a 3-year warranty and will have a 35 or 70 total terabytes written endurance rating depending on the capacity of the drive and we normally recommend that not supriya order things actually always recommend not to be order things but this next one is special and you should get your pre-order button clicking ready because it's going to sell out soon it is the a.k racing gaming desk set 350 dollar one of these it's the table for 350 bucks pre-orders will order actually just purchasing I guess will be open on July 15th if you care trying to look through it and find why it costs $350 the only things I came up with were metal construction metal MDF and a carbon fiber roll finish kind of like a pseudo carbon fiber finish on top for the unit so 350 bucks with that it will be offered in red blue green and white and it is a certified gaming desk I guess but that was shown at e3 so now you can get a gaming desk to complement your gaming chair and gaming everything else because gaming sells the word gaming entitled sells that's actually true from other boards Nvidia card spoke to the vendors about it that's that's the industry we're in and then quickly we've got two new displays that we spotted this week Dell has outed a gaming monitor under the Alienware sub brand and that is the aw to five one eight H it's a twenty four point five inch TN panel with a 1080p resolution on the screen is 240 Hertz refresh with a one millisecond great great response time for and it's brightness and 1001 contrast ratio that was new monitor will come in both g-sync and free sync variants for seven hundred and five hundred dollars respectively there's also a new LG 34 UC 89 G which is a gaming panel the screen is a curved ultra wide display with an aspect ratio of 21 by 9 and so ultra wide it's an IPS panel 144 Hertz refresh 1080p height for resolution and five modes I can respond to him at $1,000 so that rounds up the news from the past week we have plenty to do more on X 299 including the 77 40 X review subscribe if you want to see that our complete thermal and power analysis which is taking a bit of time because it's running pretty warm and we're trying to really dig into things and figure out more about why other than just saying thermal paste and kind of today and then we've got plenty of information well a couple of special feature benchmarks as well featuring those CPUs that are largely validating marketing claims so stay tuned for all of that you go to patreon.com/scishow and access tiles out directly or you go to store that gamers access not net to grab a shirt like this one we are restocking this week thank you again for watching subscribe for more I'll see you all next time and I'm here to talk about Need for Speed payback
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