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next time you look at memory prices and more and how expensive they are just think to yourself how hard it is for the memory suppliers one of them recently told me off the record we're making more money than ever so I mean based on that statement alone it's really hard for them right now and looking at a stock chart for example for one of the major memory suppliers would definitely not make it look like they're making boatloads of money despite the shortage as they claim so we're gonna be talking about Mary prices a little bit today we have another content piece that will talk about them in a lot more detail this is all independent GN research orgy on exclusive information we've retrieved and you'll want to subscribe and make sure you catch that follow-up content otherwise we're talking about some am the information clean and some am the information we received as well and and then we've got some discussion about case design once again before that this video is brought to you by thermal grizzly makers of the conductor not liquid metal that we recently used to drop 20 degrees off of our temperatures thermal grizzly also makes traditional thermal compounds we use on top of the IHS like cryo not and hydro not pastes learn more at the link below so first a quick update on the mod mats is this is actually good a good weapon this ice mod mats tough this is really cool so we're learning more and more about manufacturing as we go the newest thing we've learned is that we can make some tooling now so we're starting to do enough volume with a factory where we can basically make some custom tooling for the cut so cutting the mat now will be semi-automated rather than 100% by hand and that means a lot of things for us one of them presently I am hand sorting a lot of the mats when we get them in so for quality control purposes I'm actually still looking at forty to sixty percent of the mats personally roll them out look at them make sure everything looks perfect and then we roll it back up ship it out and I autograph a bunch of those in the process for people who buy the signed ones but the point is that now when doing quality control we know that all of the mats are going through the same tooling and this is kind of the same thing that I'll say big mat or real manufacturers do when they do things like case tooling or whatever because as you invest more and more into your tooling you can reduce production time and it hopefully increased quality definitely in our case increased quality we're also doing some custom stuff for the print so the print should be more automated now and super accurate we're investing in that tooling for the for the matte cut and for the printing process so it's more investment on our front but it definitely will pay off and it means we have a higher quality product which is already super high quality so really happy about all this it's as I said previously this is a huge learning experience for us because product manufacturing is giving me personally a very new angle for when I look at products review because I understand the things that manufacturers go through I understand the tooling cost and the trade-offs they make where you're basically committing to making these things for a long time because you've just spent money on tooling and stuff like that also all the mats for the previous run should have shipped out by now if they have shipped out by now if you're in the u.s. you most likely have yours if you're not give it a bit more time its shipping international otherwise email support at gamers Nexus net if you have any questions about an existing order or if you'd like to place an order and you just have some questions about the mat and how it works or whatever and we'll help you out we're very focused on support i've hired someone to specifically help with support so it's just support at gamers nexus Donette if you have any questions send them there he'll help you out and we are very seriously making sure that our support process is good because i know one of the things that pisses me off with companies whose products we review is support so i don't want to fall into that trap and we're taking it seriously if you like what you see and you want one of the GN anti-static mod mats make sure you back order now because we keep selling through them every time or come in go to store dock gamers nexus net if you back order now we'll definitely get you in for the next production run but that should remain true for a bit longer because this week we are in finalizing cutting next week we're doing printing and then we'll start shipping process within the next five weeks or so but yeah let's move on to the first real news item AMD news so first one this is really quick in addition to the ddr5 and near memory that I talked about a couple weeks ago in a news video we also have information that AMD is trying to ship video cards with nine gigabit per second memory parts later this year so I can't directly confirm it my source is very credible so I would believe it at this point I'm not positive what that would be I don't know if maybe they're supposed to eventually make a smaller Vega discrete GPU so I don't know if they'd use it for that or they're sticking with hpm because they're ramping up their HP on production as well either way though keep an eye out for 9 gigabit per second day in the parks heard it here first I guess that'd be the memory they're using there's not much 9 gigabit per second gddr5 most of its 8 gigabits per second some of its 7 and NVIDIA I think is presently the only GPU maker that has some devices with nine gigabit per second memory unless you go up to HBM to which AMD's and of course on Vega we also currently are theorizing that AMD has higher core count rise and CB as planned so this came about and build Zoids video where builds are speculated that the sheer power of the vrm is he's been looking at lately for X 470 might be compensation for a future rise in part and we kind of continued that when we did the VR I'm heatsink benchmark if you haven't seen it go to the channel it's a gigabyte X 470 game in 7 we tested it with the heatsink on versus off and because it's got 40 amp power stages and 10 of them for 10-plus to phase it has absolutely no issues with thermals whatsoever which we kind of think might suggest that board vendors are preparing for higher core count CPU components in the future whether or not board vendors actually know that those are coming or they're just preparing for the possibility I'm not sure but that's a kind of our current in-house speculation on why the boards are relatively overkill for what they're powering with the rise in 2000 series and he also posted a big blog post about their Radeon branding so they're planning to do radeon exclusive brands in the future this is kind of taking the GPP news and stride and they're basically trying to take a situation that they have been pretty vocal about indirectly or directly and create something good out of it by getting their own and the exclusive branding for graphics cards as well one of their statements in the content was pretty on the nose it said quote or they were offering quote the freedom to tell others in the industry that they won't be boxed into choosing proprietary solutions that come bundled with quote gamer taxes just to enjoy great experiences they should rightfully have access to so very on-the-nose AMD's clearly taking a jab at nvidia i would like to point out that if you're gonna say gamer taxes maybe don't do the whole vega thing and yet free games for Vega that you're marketing to gamers and trying to cut minors out of it for an extra hundred dollars it's not free games hundred dollars I know they pretty much killed that program but if you're gonna talk trash at least don't be guilty of the same thing yourself I do understand really coming from the Andes trying to make light of a situation that they've been concerned about lately with GT PP so basically all you need to know is keep an eye out for new graphics card brand names coming out for future revisions whatever those may be Vega or something else but the board vendors are working with AMD to produce those so keep an eye out for new branding now on memory suppliers making more money than ever this is where this story is pretty interesting and we're gonna dive into this more in a standalone video but a couple of basics for you if you're not familiar with how much money components cost we previously had some pretty good information on memory prices for gddr5 HP m2hb em stuff like that we didn't have g5 eggs and that information was published in a content piece where we talked about how much does it cost to make Vega the graphics card entirely so we go over the RM cost HBM memory the actual memory high bandwidth memory the GPU itself stuff like that and gave you some numbers there things have changed a lot since then because the memory markets been so crazy and we also have some new numbers as well so one thing the fabs that are producing the wafers $15,000,000,000 fabs for the superfab they're called were they're multi-story and they dice wafers and produce all of the memory chips that come out and eventually get sold to the manufacturers each wafer right now from our highly credible source produces something around eight thousand dollars of profit per wafer they can do something like fifteen hundred memory chips on average per wafer and give you an idea let's say it's all just gddr5 it there are a lot of different chips that these SK Hynix micron Samsung a lot of different types of chips they can put on a wafer so the price will vary per wafer but let's just look at memory alone for gddr5 gddr5 easily sells for nine dollars per chip right now for eight gigabit modules 1 gigabyte module so if you buy eight of them for your 8 gigabyte graphics card you've already got a lot of cost in just memory and that's gone up a lot so we already know that memory prices have gone up twenty to thirty dollars for graphics cards it's eight gigabytes of gddr5 this year and nine dollars is the nine dollars easily for an eight gigabit price is what we were given and then if you go to say HP m you're spending multiples of nine dollars Oh am i Cal HP folks like that they could spend up to ten eleven dollars per module because they're the graphics card vendors at least get better prices from what we've been told so that's an op shop but either way the vendors the suppliers here hynek's micron Samsung are making buckets of money right now and they claim they're out of cleanroom space they claim that they have shortages because of the high demand for other devices like cell phones there's absolutely truth to a lot of that but we also kind of question exactly how true stuff it is because memory companies have a history of dragging out these shortages as long as they can some of that has been proven legally and profiting off of it if you look at their stock charts again it pretty much shows what's going on now another thing here if you're trying to I mentioned to this particular individual who works at one of the major suppliers that the current rumors in the industry for the past couple months have been pointing at originally 2018 for reduced Maori prices and the individual literally laughed at and what I said and said that's not going to happen for system memory specifically and part of this is because margins on things like server memory are really high they can be 60% margins on server memory Enterprise memories so why would you target desktop consumers when you can make that kind of money selling the servers that's where your desktop memory prices and alleged shortage come from just some interesting stuff for you all to think about will have a separate thing on that later next up Intel document suggests eight core coffee-like skews reddit users have discovered technical documents on intel's website alluding to coffee like s parts with 8 cores 8 core coffee like parts have been rumored for a while now presume to launch alongside the equally rumored and definitely does exist as e 390 chipset it's still unclear what format this chip would take and the Intel documents paint more of a broad stroke however a skew that could slot in just above the 8700 K could give Intel an 8 core mainstream option to dull the edge of AMD's recent rise in to launch particularly our 720 720 700 X next one an tech launches the new DF 500 case alright let's take a look at it put it up on the screen ok moving on next one Google Fiber finally working well I just wanted to plug this quickly we ranted about Google Fiber and how awful their service was in our early months sign up with them and it's finally functioning properly so we kind of got it working a couple months ago when I first posted the rant about it and that's because they saw it and they immediately responded by sending someone out to fix the Google Fiber implementation so we got it all unsolved but over the last couple of months we were having some issues with upload times I don't know if it was packet loss or what the deal was but every now and then we go from a 4k maybe 8 gigabyte video taking 2 to 5 minutes to upload to just randomly taking 2 and a half hours which it would have been faster to upload on previous internet from another provider at that rate so never figured out what the cause of that was but I didn't want to post to follow up and say hey it's working great now until that was fixed I didn't the Google Fiber people didn't really want to deal with the hassle just kind of waited to see if it got fixed it has been and now we can upload large videos upwards of 8 to 12 gigabytes sometimes in minute literal minutes like I drag it over and sit there and watch it for 30 seconds and it's 50% done so it's pretty cool really happy to see that glad that it's working properly now hopefully Google can kind of stay on top of it their service is supposed to be exceptional we didn't have that experience originally but they sent out a I guess city manager for Google Fiber and made sure it got done properly when they came out the second time and I was very happy with that level of service so hopefully everyone can get that without having to complain publicly about it but if you're thinking about Google Fiber we do like it a lot now that it's functional it was just a matter of getting it here superfast it's been consistent and upload time requirement regardless of what time we upload we get the fold down and up pretty much simultaneously so we can pull steam games down as fast as the steam will allow us like I think I've seen up to 80 megabytes per second and still push a video up the pipe as well and get that up within minutes so yep thank you Google Fiber for fixing it hopefully anyone else if you have issues hopefully they will resolve it for you I found Tweety not them work the best next one hardware news cryo rig launches finally their full copper c7 first shown at Computex 2017 cryo rig is releasing their c7 see you a full copper variance of the original c7 in that small form-factor pcs by using copper in lieu of aluminum cry raked out a 15% increase in thermal performance moreover using copper allowed cryo rig to increase thermal efficiency without adding size to the heatsink or increasing fan speed not exactly a hundred percent positive what they mean by a 15% increase in thermal performance it's kind of a weird way to measure thermal performance especially percentages if you're dealing with anything but Kelvin but either way typically in our testing in the ancient past copper versus aluminum doesn't normally have a huge impact but in something like a small form-factor PC where you might be dealing with a really high ambient temperature that's where it starts to matter because the the difference is in a large K is copper versus aluminum with decent air flow conditions you're pretty much at the same level of performance if at all other factors are the same but with a small form-factor case the heat density is a lot higher in a really concentrated area and we found that it can be beneficial there we don't have any plans to review them presently though May or early June for release targeted at $50 for the prior week for copper c7 next up EK will begin offering pre-built pcs under the new EK fluid gaming pc line EK is angle is that not everyone has time to build their own pc however that pitch seems to be every boutique pc builders approach so not really that unique more realistically EK is attempting to carve out a niche audience in buyers that are apprehensive about selecting compatible liquid cooling parts and risking potential leaks EK says they're offering systems with Rhydon 2000 series CPUs on video GPUs and then in-house EK solutions for cooling with an in-house version of the in win at 101 c chassis using custom paint configurable options include PS use from EVGA ram from g.skill cal mod pro sleeves cable kits and the base MSI motherboards and storage options from Samsung at Seagate $2,100 starting price for those for the lowest and configuration out of ek and finally couple of hardware sales we spotted we're gonna try and start putting these at the end of the news videos again like we did during the big sales at the end of the year we noticed and L do this mostly applies to the US but go double check it I guess LG at 32 ud5 9b 32 inch 4k LED display we actually I think have this exact one with Andy free sync for currently $445 which is a decent drop in price and then the EVGA is 450 watt BT PSU non-modular and it's 80 plus bronze nothing fancy at all about it it's just dirt cheap it's twenty-five dollars right now so this is a power supply I wouldn't necessarily I absolutely would not recommend it for anything remotely high-end or mid-range but if you're kind of going the cheap bastard approach of not spending any money unless we're you absolutely have to it's an okay power supply for something like an APU build or a low-end D GPU and CPU build so something worth considering if you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel for budget because it's one of the better power supplies in terms of things that are $24 or whatever it is and that's all for this time subscribe for more as always go to patreon.com/scishow sobs that directly go to store that Cameron's axis net to pick up one of our mod mats and I'll see you all next time